Finally! 😄 A Gasgas in your garage. Ashame you didn't try Gasgas when Gasgas actually owned them. Big difference in suspension. Love my KYB suspension. Love my 2019 EC300 Six Days. Had it since we talked on the phone a couple years ago.
@@DirtBikeChannel This is the no.1 bike brand in the class for me. But Im quite confused whether 2 stroke 300 or 4 stroke 250 is the much better option.
Mine had too low idle. I removed the throttle stop, with heat, and installed a m5 x 50mm screw with spring. Great results. Haven’t touched the air bypass or the PV yet. Mine has less than 10 miles so far. Wife surprised me with it for Christmas.
Rieju bikes (ex-Gasgas) have such a better suspension when you`re riding agressive or faster! Have a bike with WP suspension (same as KTM suspension), and have another with Kayaba, today swaped between them the whole day in big mountains, and Kayaba are sooooo much better when riding hard!
Hey Kyle. I have a 2021 version of the same bike in South Africa, which I've now done close to 100 hours on. I ride it mainly in extreme rocky conditions. I chose the Gas Gas after test riding the 2021 Husky and KTM XCW. I've owned 8 KTM 300 XCW's so I know the 300 well. The Gas Gas just felt the most right for me out the box, I love the ergonomics and it's certainly a more wieldy machine. Strangely it has it's own distinct feel despite being a sum of KTM and Husky parts. Even the motor has a different, more playful feel to it. The bike turns beautifully, while I often didn't like the KTM's tendency to push the front and understeer. This is my first linkage bike though and I find the rear end more compliant than on the PDS KTM system, providing better traction in loose conditions. There was a cost saving in the Gas Gas, true it doesn't get hand guards and a few other bits, but those tend to be things I replace on any bike anyway. So the cost saving was real for me. I have changed the forks to have bump adjustment on the bottom of both forks and rebound on the top of both, along with tuning the shims a bit for initial plushness in the terrain I ride. Hands down this is my favorite bike I've ever owned, I'll definitely buy another one when I wear this one out.
Heck yeah! These are badass bikes! I’m still sad that KTM bought them out though because now they are basically just another colour of KTM like what happened to Husaberg/Husqvarna instead of being unique to it’s brand. I helped a friend pick out an ‘07 EC300 as her first full-size bike, and got to take it for a rip last weekend. Within minutes I was in love with how the bike felt and performed on the trail! Felt more playful and addicting compared to the bland feel of an ‘06 300XC that I rode, yet the GasGas performs as good if not better!
I'm excited to see more on this bike. Part of me is hoping that KTM will allow Husky and Gas Gas to expand past their base models. I want to see more difference. (As long as that difference is providing some value)
hey Kyle, just wondering: when you swaped the wheels, did you instal the new brake discs, or are you running the ones that were on your old set of wheels? that can make quite a bit of diference in braking power and brake feel. thx for all you do, it IS hard work! 👍
Hmm... Where GasGas cuts costs to make them less expensive than the KTM & Husky line??? Brakes & Wheels.. I only say that because I was looking into GasGas as a future option. Near I can tell they opted for a generic wheel over DID or Giant. Now I noticed on there website they offer a DID wheel as a power parts style upgrade. Obviously for a cost.
My son bought a 21 in may this year and we went to family vacation for 2 weeks in June at Hatfield and McCoy trails and he loves that bike myself I ride an 05 ec300 and the weight difference is crazy love the new style even tho I’ll never part with my 05 I’m considering the 22 to add to my collection but it doesn’t really seem to matter what year 300 gg it is they’re fun to ride and haul ass!!!!
I picked up a 22 EX300 and its pretty awesome bike, it has the Brembo hydraulics. My only complaint so far is the choppy spot in the power curve right before the powerband hits. feels like its loaded up for a second.
@@StabEDealin The power band hits later than I would prefer so Im going to tinker with the power valve adjustment. Im hopping the powerband will hit before the choppy spot or at least reduce it.
@@bikejunky4816 install the idle screw and red power valve spring and go 1mm from flush . My bike was a dog and I didn’t enjoy it at all until I did this. The TSP high comp head and mapping was the icing on the cake.
I know the Kyle pays for these bikes out of his own pocket so I understand why he can't do what I'm proposing, but I'd really like to see him test a few boutique bikes. The AJP 310 and 510, The SWM 300 and 500 and the Reiju lineup
Dude, my father owns an AJP PR5 250 2018 and it is definitely the least reliable bike we have ever owned. I have a 2020 ktm tpi, my brother rides a husky fe350 2017... I have owned and ridden quite a few beta rr300's , ktm's and many more. The ajp isn't a real deal. All it is is a hobby rider bike. It just doesn't cooperate quite as well. It is way too heavy. The fuel injection that they use isn't set up properly. It has had multiple problems... It stall way too easy etc... I definitely wouldn't buy another ajp. Few years back we owned an ajp pr3 125 4stroke. Of course that was underpowered beginner bike but it was very reliable. Zero issues whatsover unlike the new ajp's... Even our local ajp dealer has had nothing but problems with new ajp's... Basically the dealer hates the bikes that he sells... and btw we bought both of the ajp's new. Those weren't used bikes. I hate to bash on bike brands but the new AJP's are crap. I would rather buy a used ktm with 300hours than having to deal with all the ajp issues...
@@Dashriprock4 yes, I know😬. It is weird but anyways those are not race bikes by any means. You'll be better off with a used ktm if you care about performance.
@@andrejskamla9736 the new AJP is being marketed as a more racy bike. They're using the old Italian Husqvarna big block motor which is absolutely bomb-proof. SWM is building those engines and Italy now and I'm sure they have their mapping figured out. And for someone like me who is almost 60 years old I'm not really interested in a race bike as much as I am a good trail bike. And honestly I'm not very impressed with my most recent KTM. Their build quality seems to be going backwards. My old Italian Husqvarna from 2008 was put together better..
Hey Jeff. I hear you. He's the rub though.... I've never even seen any of those bikes with my own eyes in real life in over 10 years in this sport. Not one time. So the main question there is How Many People would Benefit from a review on those bikes? Very few.... so I keep to the main bikes for the most part.
I also found my 2021 Gas Gas 250ec to be very nimble and rides like it's on rails when I first rode it feels just like a smaller bike, and being new to TPI can't believe how linear the power is.
I prefer the last version of old Spanish GasGas. The new GasGas an awesome bike but it’s just another flavor of Orange. The old 18-20 GasGas were so good.
Great video, I prefer F brakes that aren't as strong, I only use them to wash off a little speed. Check the triple clamps, may its like the XC with a 20 d offset instead of a 22 on the EX-W? that would account for it being more nimble ?
As always, great video (/first impressions review), but just another KTM bike (Gasgas now is just a red KTM, with some minor different details), what`s the purpose of comparing (/reviewing) always the same bikes? Would be awesome to test other brands!
He usually puts a poll out with a selection of bikes to vote on and he picks whatever wins. Sadly this won out on the last poll over some very interesting bikes that don't have much info already. It's a bit frustrating that so many people voted for this when there's already heaps of reviews out there for it and it really is just another ktm clone
I own the same bike. I ride ATV trails so this bike is just a super expensive trail bike for me. It is a bucket list purchase. I replaced the front 13 tooth sprocket with a 14 tooth. I still wish it was faster. This is my first "KTM". I can't put a finger on it but I detest the front brake. The front brake on my 1996 DR 350SE is better after I put on braided steel lines and different pads. The rotors are also different this year on the GasGas. They are Chinese made. Seems like "KTM" cheeped out on the GasGas brakes to save a few dollars. When you pay $11,000 OTD for a bike it should be the best production bike in the world IMHO. Hopefully there will be a "fix" for the front brake. Pads, rotor, caliper, reservoir in that order.
Love your thoughts and assessments. (I have often wished for a few of your thoughts at the end of every video.) Keep up the good work and leaving a single track.
@@bbmoti no issues with the clutch, but sometimes the motor would run on without me twisting throttle, with was bad down severe Rock descents, I think this is sorted , now 20hrs on the clock
@@Cross-Country-Biker thanks, i have less then an hour on it, and have a clutch drag. I need to pull the clutch all the way in and still have a bit of dragging
Just curious why you never try 450s. I know they can be a handful in the woods. But a mellow tune on a cross country or trail style 450 is still very manageable especially on the newer ones I enjoy my 2022 yz450fx a ton. Granted I’ve only had it for a little while, time tells all. But it’s surprisingly easy to ride especially for a 450. I’ve already spent some time on single track. Crazy thing is it doesn’t feel much heavier than my old 250F. I enjoy it, especially out in the desert.
I just sold my 6th yz450f and all i have ever riden in is the bush , i think they are awesome for the sticks , bit of a hand full but great fun , have been thinking about the 22 4t0fx but im leaning towards a gas gas ec 300 just for something different, do you like your fx ?
@@sethmurphy531 yeah ok , i might get the ec 300 , just come good from having my hip replaced from the last stack 2 years ago, im 43 and my body has copt a flogging over the years, was thinking about the weight of the 300 and im so used of having the 450 grunt when i jump on a 250 its like a pee wee 80 , being 2 stroke ill be happy with the power , gas gas it's going to be ive made up my mind ... stay safe brother 🤙🏻🇦🇺
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 yeah from what I’ve heard those 300s are very forgiving and easier to ride in. If you just had a hip replacement I’d say definitely go that route. A 450 is super easy to grab to much throttle. I hope you enjoy it my friend. ✌️🇺🇸
@@sethmurphy531 i used to buy a new yz450f every 2 years and i got to 2017 and I could not part with it it was the best handling bike ive ever riden , there were that many times that i should have come of but i didn't and i cant remember whan map it had but this thing ripped hard , real hard and I was worried about updating and getting a bike that wasn't any good so i kept it for roughly 4 years and it didn't miss a beat or let me down once and i sold that probably 2 months ago it was getting to the point where it needed a rebuild and I threw it on gumtree and got $6300 for it i was wrapped, im ordering a new gg ec300 , maybe even a 2023 , less weight, electric start which is great after a hip replacement 🤣😂 , maybe a renewed energy riding a 2 stroke , riding is my life its my antidepressant , i bleed blue but they don't make a 300 , great chatting to you mate , happy riding and put plenty of hours on the fx ... stay safe 🤙🏻🇦🇺
The Braktec is actually better than a lot think. Just cuz it isn’t brembo, these things are on trials bikes and that extra feel of play is honestly plush, riding a ktm back to back and the brembo bite was jarring me around, The braktec’s progression is smoother.
Hey Kyle, did you figure out why the GasGas feels so much more compact and shorter? My brother has one and I absolutely love the feel of it! Reminds of a KDX...I'm looking at a 2019 Husky TX300 and wonder what your thoughts are? Will it not have that short compact feeling of the GasGas? Hope to hear back! Thanks.
FI 2-smoker? Very cool. Response has to be incredible. Tryin get a '22 Gas Gas 250F out bere..not easy! Got a dep @my dealer. Waiting patiently in Ohio.
Hi, I have the 250 4 stroke Gasgas. You could try the brembo brake pad. It is not an expensive change and the brake tech Ith just the brembo pad is really great!
The brakes should be tested more. I’ve had brembo’s and magura’s that are super strong and then some that are weak. I think it depends how well they’ve been assembled and bled from the factory/shop/dealer. (Whoever does it). Go from bike to bike at the dealership and you’ll feel different brake lever resistance on the same models side by side. The softer levers won’t stop as well.
Interesting you mentioned not loving the braketek brakes. The IRC tire guy on RUclips says the same thing. I wonder why Gas Gas put Braketek on the EC, but kept Brembo on the EX series.
On this Gas Gas ec300 or ex, would you choose it over the KTM 300xc or xcw. Just would like your personal opinion on this matter. Yes,I definitely need something that will go distance with little or the normal maintenance. Although, I would love to have the TPI. With this said, you probably think the Gas Gas would be the one for me so if you would please give me some feedback on this... Keep the good ride up Kyle
You got a new bike in the garage, congrats!! I didn't know the EC had linkage. What gasGas is like an XC? To save from sending you an email, can you just mention the general riding area? I haven't been there before. Big thanks for the video's!!
Nice bike, i was curious about the brakes differences. Do you think the low idle will get better as the engine brakes in? My '22 250xc seemed to get better as i got a few more hrs on it, but that could be placebo effect of me just getting used to it?
Man I hope so. I got a ‘22 te300 and it’s definitely got a low idle too. Once it’s warm it’s fine, but cold it likes to die. And I’ve got the BrakeTech front and rears as well, once I adjusted the clickers I really enjoyed them over my old Nissin setup. Honestly though, hard to find anything wrong with these new bikes.
@@StabEDealin I did the slavens idle screw and adjusted the powervalve out about flush, it’s a completely different bike now. I did have to replace the crank case pressure sensor at 40 hours though which sucked. Love the bike though.
Cut priced ktm - not that its a bad thing. I wish a manufacturer would do a "build your own bike". It would be easy in this day and age of the internet. Think about it, I want a gasgas 300, but I don't want the forks, wheels, triples, front brake as I will be upgrading these parts anyway. Order the bike in this form and have it delivered to the dealer. Or up spec it online with hard parts and have it delivered in that form - minus the original cost of what ever stock parts you're not getting.
I think it’s a smaller rider Cockpit that makes the bike feel smaller. - I know the Sherco have a smaller cockpit which makes the bike feel a bit small
I was going to buy a real Gas Gas but not a KTM clone, don’t get me wrong one of the bikes a ride is a KTM SX 250 and I love it, but I’m going to buy the bike my son has a Beta 300 rr Race.
I'm with you. I was more interested in GasGas before the KTM merger. I'm on record saying that. The reason I've bought this bike is because I've had OVERWHELMING requests for it.
@@DirtBikeChannel I can appreciate that. I guess I am just grumpy with KTM as a company after having a last gen Husabeg, a 2013 Husqvarna and now having a 2018 GasGas. They keep buying and killing off the brands I like.
hi from greece! so what about us poor guys? please do a mid zeros bikes shoutout. i believe these old ones still hang good in there and also theyre kinda unsung heroes cause back then we only had magazines. it would be cool to see your pov on this and to share your thoughts about how far we went from then!
Thank gas gas when u accidentally stab the front brake and your still upright a little buffer is no problem better than being on your face haha I know from experience prob some adjustments would smooth it out thanks for the vid Kyle almost got my ktm back up and running ….. live to ride ride to live
I will take one of these reviews (this is not a bad review per se) of a new "GasGas" seriously only when it is compared to an "old" spanish GasGas/Rieju. Otherwise it's a comparison between parts in the KTM parts catalog. Compare price (when new). Compare components on the bikes when bone stock. Compare feel of the bikes. Compare suspension. KTM does so much good on their bikes. They feel good, quality feels good, they push technology forwards etc. But that doesn't take away the facy that these, and the new Huskys, are basically graphics kits with linkage and evolutionary cAst tRipLe cLamPs.
Hey Kyle could you do/ try to do a review on a husqvarna wr300, it might be hard to get your hands on lol, but I wanna know your opinion on the old huskys vs the ones.
The later year italian WR250 and 300 were years behind in development. Very old engine, old frame and so on. Absolutely not bad bikes but not up to par with other bikes from the same era. The Huskys with the new chassis from 2008-2009 forwards were brilliant (125 2T, 250-310 4T). I have a WR125 from 2012 and I would strongly recommend that over their 250/300 2T. If going for a 300 I would at least try the GasGas (Made in Spain) from 2013-forward. Such a easy to ride bike with linear, trials like power.
@@henripuustinen4642 yeah in getting a 2013 wr300 this weekend and I was just wondering how they would compare to the new ktm huskys, I think that if ktm didn't have brought husqvarna they would have become a rival to ktm in enduro and mx
Not a true Gas Gas.. just another KTM version in red dressing with few cheapened components, which KTM has been gravitating towards. I used to ride original Gas Gas bikes years ago and they were built very tough. They were a little on the heavy side but built solid with high end components. Probably one branded bike I owned that required the least amount of maintenance compared to any dirt bike built. And I have owned countless ones. If you want an original tough built GG then get a Reiju.
I'm with you. I was more interested in GasGas before the KTM merger. I'm on record saying that. The reason I've bought this bike is because I've had OVERWHELMING requests for it.
Finally! 😄 A Gasgas in your garage. Ashame you didn't try Gasgas when Gasgas actually owned them. Big difference in suspension. Love my KYB suspension. Love my 2019 EC300 Six Days. Had it since we talked on the phone a couple years ago.
Older gasgas had terrible suspension
A red KTM. I bet he’s going to love it. 😆
So true.
Guess you didn't watch my reviews on the Blue Yamaha, Red Beta, and Green Kawi... :). I loved those too. Have a great day!
@@DirtBikeChannel Red KTM: still race ready
Justin, gas gas have tradition in enduro of décades
@@DirtBikeChannel This is the no.1 bike brand in the class for me. But Im quite confused whether 2 stroke 300 or 4 stroke 250 is the much better option.
Mine had too low idle. I removed the throttle stop, with heat, and installed a m5 x 50mm screw with spring. Great results. Haven’t touched the air bypass or the PV yet. Mine has less than 10 miles so far. Wife surprised me with it for Christmas.
Rieju bikes (ex-Gasgas) have such a better suspension when you`re riding agressive or faster!
Have a bike with WP suspension (same as KTM suspension), and have another with Kayaba, today swaped between them the whole day in big mountains, and Kayaba are sooooo much better when riding hard!
Hey Kyle. I have a 2021 version of the same bike in South Africa, which I've now done close to 100 hours on. I ride it mainly in extreme rocky conditions. I chose the Gas Gas after test riding the 2021 Husky and KTM XCW. I've owned 8 KTM 300 XCW's so I know the 300 well. The Gas Gas just felt the most right for me out the box, I love the ergonomics and it's certainly a more wieldy machine. Strangely it has it's own distinct feel despite being a sum of KTM and Husky parts. Even the motor has a different, more playful feel to it. The bike turns beautifully, while I often didn't like the KTM's tendency to push the front and understeer. This is my first linkage bike though and I find the rear end more compliant than on the PDS KTM system, providing better traction in loose conditions. There was a cost saving in the Gas Gas, true it doesn't get hand guards and a few other bits, but those tend to be things I replace on any bike anyway. So the cost saving was real for me. I have changed the forks to have bump adjustment on the bottom of both forks and rebound on the top of both, along with tuning the shims a bit for initial plushness in the terrain I ride. Hands down this is my favorite bike I've ever owned, I'll definitely buy another one when I wear this one out.
Heck yeah! These are badass bikes! I’m still sad that KTM bought them out though because now they are basically just another colour of KTM like what happened to Husaberg/Husqvarna instead of being unique to it’s brand. I helped a friend pick out an ‘07 EC300 as her first full-size bike, and got to take it for a rip last weekend. Within minutes I was in love with how the bike felt and performed on the trail! Felt more playful and addicting compared to the bland feel of an ‘06 300XC that I rode, yet the GasGas performs as good if not better!
You forgot to mention the bike cost ~$700 (MSRP) less than KTM or Husky? That buys handguards and then some!
I believe my bike feels the exact same way! Short from front to back. 2022 KTM 300XC
I'm excited to see more on this bike. Part of me is hoping that KTM will allow Husky and Gas Gas to expand past their base models. I want to see more difference. (As long as that difference is providing some value)
Only rides a gas gas now cause it’s owned by ktm should have done the older gas gas before ktm brought them those bike are great
Thanks Kyle, love your unbiased reviews and you are too kind with your sweepstakes. Leave a single track!
"unbiased" XD. If its made by the orange team he's always gonna love it.
hey Kyle, just wondering: when you swaped the wheels, did you instal the new brake discs, or are you running the ones that were on your old set of wheels? that can make quite a bit
of diference in braking power and brake feel. thx for all you do, it IS hard work! 👍
Hmm... Where GasGas cuts costs to make them less expensive than the KTM & Husky line??? Brakes & Wheels.. I only say that because I was looking into GasGas as a future option. Near I can tell they opted for a generic wheel over DID or Giant. Now I noticed on there website they offer a DID wheel as a power parts style upgrade. Obviously for a cost.
My son bought a 21 in may this year and we went to family vacation for 2 weeks in June at Hatfield and McCoy trails and he loves that bike myself I ride an 05 ec300 and the weight difference is crazy love the new style even tho I’ll never part with my 05 I’m considering the 22 to add to my collection but it doesn’t really seem to matter what year 300 gg it is they’re fun to ride and haul ass!!!!
Hey Kyle, really like your channel. Would like to see you review Rieju MR PRO.
It does seem odd you haven't tried to track down a Rieju, especially with how much you've talked about KTM taking away the kickstart.
Agility is a huge win for everything enduro! Thanks for the review and video! 🔥💪
When it comes to brakes it’s mostly the pad composition that creates most of the differences in feel and response.
I'm retiring in January, so this should be good timing for you to award me this. Hint, Hint! (I'm running out of closet space for T-shirts)
I'm a one finger kind of guy too! Great video man. Really liking these red KTM's.
I picked up a 22 EX300 and its pretty awesome bike, it has the Brembo hydraulics. My only complaint so far is the choppy spot in the power curve right before the powerband hits. feels like its loaded up for a second.
I’ve heard about that powerband chop on the XC and TXs as well. Could be their more competitive tune. My TE is stupidly smooth.
@@StabEDealin The power band hits later than I would prefer so Im going to tinker with the power valve adjustment. Im hopping the powerband will hit before the choppy spot or at least reduce it.
@@bikejunky4816 install the idle screw and red power valve spring and go 1mm from flush . My bike was a dog and I didn’t enjoy it at all until I did this. The TSP high comp head and mapping was the icing on the cake.
I'd like to see a review of one of the GPX bikes...
Love my GasGas. Really interested in hearing about the differences between this one and the other KTMs.
I know the Kyle pays for these bikes out of his own pocket so I understand why he can't do what I'm proposing, but I'd really like to see him test a few boutique bikes. The AJP 310 and 510, The SWM 300 and 500 and the Reiju lineup
Dude, my father owns an AJP PR5 250 2018 and it is definitely the least reliable bike we have ever owned. I have a 2020 ktm tpi, my brother rides a husky fe350 2017... I have owned and ridden quite a few beta rr300's , ktm's and many more.
The ajp isn't a real deal. All it is is a hobby rider bike. It just doesn't cooperate quite as well. It is way too heavy. The fuel injection that they use isn't set up properly. It has had multiple problems... It stall way too easy etc...
I definitely wouldn't buy another ajp. Few years back we owned an ajp pr3 125 4stroke. Of course that was underpowered beginner bike but it was very reliable. Zero issues whatsover unlike the new ajp's... Even our local ajp dealer has had nothing but problems with new ajp's... Basically the dealer hates the bikes that he sells... and btw we bought both of the ajp's new. Those weren't used bikes.
I hate to bash on bike brands but the new AJP's are crap. I would rather buy a used ktm with 300hours than having to deal with all the ajp issues...
@@andrejskamla9736 that’s interesting. Hate to hear of it. I know a guy in Spain who has a fleet for off road tours and he loves his PR5s.
@@Dashriprock4 yes, I know😬. It is weird but anyways those are not race bikes by any means. You'll be better off with a used ktm if you care about performance.
@@andrejskamla9736 the new AJP is being marketed as a more racy bike. They're using the old Italian Husqvarna big block motor which is absolutely bomb-proof. SWM is building those engines and Italy now and I'm sure they have their mapping figured out. And for someone like me who is almost 60 years old I'm not really interested in a race bike as much as I am a good trail bike. And honestly I'm not very impressed with my most recent KTM. Their build quality seems to be going backwards. My old Italian Husqvarna from 2008 was put together better..
Hey Jeff. I hear you. He's the rub though.... I've never even seen any of those bikes with my own eyes in real life in over 10 years in this sport. Not one time. So the main question there is How Many People would Benefit from a review on those bikes? Very few.... so I keep to the main bikes for the most part.
Everyone: The world is ending.
Kyle: *still buying toys*
How is the world ending? Lol
I also found my 2021 Gas Gas 250ec to be very nimble and rides like it's on rails when I first rode it feels just like a smaller bike, and being new to TPI can't believe how linear the power is.
That's a pretty bike, congrats Kyle!
heard only nice things about GG machines, nice overview, thnx V!
Somehow every time I’m looking for a good bike review I see you. 10/10 👍👏
I prefer the last version of old Spanish GasGas. The new GasGas an awesome bike but it’s just another flavor of Orange. The old 18-20 GasGas were so good.
Great video, I prefer F brakes that aren't as strong, I only use them to wash off a little speed. Check the triple clamps, may its like the XC with a 20 d offset instead of a 22 on the EX-W? that would account for it being more nimble ?
The camera footage makes me realize how lucky I am to ride out of my garage and onto the trails in this video.
That’s living the dream!
hey man, im still waiting on a video on the 250 sx-f you have in your garage 😂😂 pls do a video about the ktm sxf for enduro
love your videos!!
always heard that they make an absolutely lethal woods weapon when set up correctly
Why not get a excf 250/xcwf 250 if your gonna ride enduro?
@@hugojonsson1013 for Sprint Enduro and GNCC I've always heard the SX was better. Just what I've heard I have no experience.
As always, great video (/first impressions review), but just another KTM bike (Gasgas now is just a red KTM, with some minor different details), what`s the purpose of comparing (/reviewing) always the same bikes?
Would be awesome to test other brands!
He usually puts a poll out with a selection of bikes to vote on and he picks whatever wins. Sadly this won out on the last poll over some very interesting bikes that don't have much info already. It's a bit frustrating that so many people voted for this when there's already heaps of reviews out there for it and it really is just another ktm clone
@@tcmx712, thanks for a great answer, that makes sense, yes.
But Kyle could also do the step! (instead of just getting 3 or 4 almost equal bikes)
It’s a great bike! Love my 2021. Just converted to a snow bike for the winter. Can’t wait to see how she rides!
I own the same bike. I ride ATV trails so this bike is just a super expensive trail bike for me. It is a bucket list purchase. I replaced the front 13 tooth sprocket with a 14 tooth. I still wish it was faster. This is my first "KTM". I can't put a finger on it but I detest the front brake. The front brake on my 1996 DR 350SE is better after I put on braided steel lines and different pads. The rotors are also different this year on the GasGas. They are Chinese made. Seems like "KTM" cheeped out on the GasGas brakes to save a few dollars. When you pay $11,000 OTD for a bike it should be the best production bike in the world IMHO. Hopefully there will be a "fix" for the front brake. Pads, rotor, caliper, reservoir in that order.
Lots of Chinese parts on these bikes. Pipe, foot pegs, fasteners etc.
Love the channel. I would like to do some FTR races in Florida.
Hoping for a review of the Reiju MR 250 - same as the 2018 GasGas XC 250 - pre KTM DNA...
Love your thoughts and assessments. (I have often wished for a few of your thoughts at the end of every video.) Keep up the good work and leaving a single track.
Kyle this is an awesome looking bike. Did you have any fuel leaks near the power valve.
Look forward to your impressions, I have a 22 ec300 and it rocks with traction in hard enduro and faster stuff. Loving it
Question, i also have a 2022 ec300, did you clutch drag at the beginning?
@@bbmoti no issues with the clutch, but sometimes the motor would run on without me twisting throttle, with was bad down severe Rock descents, I think this is sorted , now 20hrs on the clock
@@Cross-Country-Biker thanks, i have less then an hour on it, and have a clutch drag. I need to pull the clutch all the way in and still have a bit of dragging
@@bbmoti hope it comes right, maybe take it back to the dealer
@@Cross-Country-Biker exactly what im going to do.
Just curious why you never try 450s. I know they can be a handful in the woods. But a mellow tune on a cross country or trail style 450 is still very manageable especially on the newer ones I enjoy my 2022 yz450fx a ton. Granted I’ve only had it for a little while, time tells all. But it’s surprisingly easy to ride especially for a 450. I’ve already spent some time on single track. Crazy thing is it doesn’t feel much heavier than my old 250F. I enjoy it, especially out in the desert.
I just sold my 6th yz450f and all i have ever riden in is the bush , i think they are awesome for the sticks , bit of a hand full but great fun , have been thinking about the 22 4t0fx but im leaning towards a gas gas ec 300 just for something different, do you like your fx ?
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 so far I love it but like most 450s it’s kinda twitchy in the tight stuff
@@sethmurphy531 yeah ok , i might get the ec 300 , just come good from having my hip replaced from the last stack 2 years ago, im 43 and my body has copt a flogging over the years, was thinking about the weight of the 300 and im so used of having the 450 grunt when i jump on a 250 its like a pee wee 80 , being 2 stroke ill be happy with the power , gas gas it's going to be ive made up my mind ... stay safe brother 🤙🏻🇦🇺
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 yeah from what I’ve heard those 300s are very forgiving and easier to ride in. If you just had a hip replacement I’d say definitely go that route. A 450 is super easy to grab to much throttle. I hope you enjoy it my friend. ✌️🇺🇸
@@sethmurphy531 i used to buy a new yz450f every 2 years and i got to 2017 and I could not part with it it was the best handling bike ive ever riden , there were that many times that i should have come of but i didn't and i cant remember whan map it had but this thing ripped hard , real hard and I was worried about updating and getting a bike that wasn't any good so i kept it for roughly 4 years and it didn't miss a beat or let me down once and i sold that probably 2 months ago it was getting to the point where it needed a rebuild and I threw it on gumtree and got $6300 for it i was wrapped, im ordering a new gg ec300 , maybe even a 2023 , less weight, electric start which is great after a hip replacement 🤣😂 , maybe a renewed energy riding a 2 stroke , riding is my life its my antidepressant , i bleed blue but they don't make a 300 , great chatting to you mate , happy riding and put plenty of hours on the fx ... stay safe 🤙🏻🇦🇺
The Braktec is actually better than a lot think. Just cuz it isn’t brembo, these things are on trials bikes and that extra feel of play is honestly plush, riding a ktm back to back and the brembo bite was jarring me around, The braktec’s progression is smoother.
Hey Kyle, did you figure out why the GasGas feels so much more compact and shorter? My brother has one and I absolutely love the feel of it! Reminds of a KDX...I'm looking at a 2019 Husky TX300 and wonder what your thoughts are? Will it not have that short compact feeling of the GasGas? Hope to hear back! Thanks.
PLEASE REVIEW THE REIJU MR 250 (SAME BIKE AS GASGAS 2018 XC 250)
FI 2-smoker? Very cool. Response has to be incredible. Tryin get a '22 Gas Gas 250F out bere..not easy! Got a dep @my dealer. Waiting patiently in Ohio.
Hi, I have the 250 4 stroke Gasgas. You could try the brembo brake pad. It is not an expensive change and the brake tech Ith just the brembo pad is really great!
The brakes should be tested more. I’ve had brembo’s and magura’s that are super strong and then some that are weak. I think it depends how well they’ve been assembled and bled from the factory/shop/dealer. (Whoever does it). Go from bike to bike at the dealership and you’ll feel different brake lever resistance on the same models side by side. The softer levers won’t stop as well.
Interesting you mentioned not loving the braketek brakes. The IRC tire guy on RUclips says the same thing. I wonder why Gas Gas put Braketek on the EC, but kept Brembo on the EX series.
A 2 stroke 300 sounds perfrct size for me! Dream bike
Def a bike I would like to try
On this Gas Gas ec300 or ex, would you choose it over the KTM 300xc or xcw. Just would like your personal opinion on this matter. Yes,I definitely need something that will go distance with little or the normal maintenance. Although, I would love to have the TPI. With this said, you probably think the Gas Gas would be the one for me so if you would please give me some feedback on this... Keep the good ride up Kyle
Would the 300 be a good beginner bike? Its has lots of power but it seems well mannered and so well controlled.
You got a new bike in the garage, congrats!!
I didn't know the EC had linkage. What gasGas is like an XC?
To save from sending you an email, can you just mention the general riding area? I haven't been there before.
Big thanks for the video's!!
I was choosing between the 250 KTM and gas gas, I am glad I picked KTM
That’s nice and all, Kyle. But let’s roll out that bike drawing! It’s getting colder n colder 😀😀😀
Good video of first impression. Do you like living in Utah? I've visited years ago but didn't have a bike with me.
Awesome Bike but if you mention the front brake that much it has to be an issue?
Nice bike, i was curious about the brakes differences. Do you think the low idle will get better as the engine brakes in? My '22 250xc seemed to get better as i got a few more hrs on it, but that could be placebo effect of me just getting used to it?
Man I hope so. I got a ‘22 te300 and it’s definitely got a low idle too. Once it’s warm it’s fine, but cold it likes to die. And I’ve got the BrakeTech front and rears as well, once I adjusted the clickers I really enjoyed them over my old Nissin setup. Honestly though, hard to find anything wrong with these new bikes.
@@StabEDealin I did the slavens idle screw and adjusted the powervalve out about flush, it’s a completely different bike now. I did have to replace the crank case pressure sensor at 40 hours though which sucked. Love the bike though.
The GG does not share it's mapping & valving with the KTM/Husky models, it's unique to the red bikes.
My 2022 TE300 has the same Braktec set up. They are ok. Killer on my TRS trials bike so I was a little surprised at the lower performance.
We have 2 x EC300's (2021 and 2022) and both front brakes or not good. The bite point kreeps and the power of the front is not good.
Sweet review! Thank you
Why no more reviews of your son's bikes, and there progress?
Bike giveaway on Nov 15? Saw that on the website
Maybe the Cast vs Billet triple tree flex characteristic's make it feel shorter.
One in Geelong Peter stevens is 2021. Is there a difference 2022?
Very cool. I would love to ride one.....😎👍🇺🇲
Which tires are you using?
Cut priced ktm - not that its a bad thing.
I wish a manufacturer would do a "build your own bike". It would be easy in this day and age of the internet.
Think about it, I want a gasgas 300, but I don't want the forks, wheels, triples, front brake as I will be upgrading these parts anyway.
Order the bike in this form and have it delivered to the dealer.
Or up spec it online with hard parts and have it delivered in that form - minus the original cost of what ever stock parts you're not getting.
Your inpression of the STIC METERING BLOCK on the PKW KEIHEN CARB
Thanks
I got told today I can get it road registration in Victoria?. Is this true or salesmen talking crap? I was looking at crf300la but wanted 2st
I think it’s a smaller rider Cockpit that makes the bike feel smaller.
- I know the Sherco have a smaller cockpit which makes the bike feel a bit small
I changed my front brake to a magura. Brake tec just wasn't consistent enough for me. It fades much easier too
What exact parts did you change out and where did you buy them if you don't mind me asking. Thanks.
Enough KTMs already. I wish you could have tested a real GasGas. I'm just sick of seeing the KTM line.
I was going to buy a real Gas Gas but not a KTM clone, don’t get me wrong one of the bikes a ride is a KTM SX 250 and I love it, but I’m going to buy the bike my son has a Beta 300 rr Race.
I'm with you. I was more interested in GasGas before the KTM merger. I'm on record saying that. The reason I've bought this bike is because I've had OVERWHELMING requests for it.
Keep in mind I've had Kawi, Beta, Yamaha, Sherco, Honda.... etc all in the past 3 years.
@@DirtBikeChannel I can appreciate that. I guess I am just grumpy with KTM as a company after having a last gen Husabeg, a 2013 Husqvarna and now having a 2018 GasGas. They keep buying and killing off the brands I like.
Great video! Where are you riding?
Awesome review as usual
Huskys are now using Braketec too
hi from greece! so what about us poor guys? please do a mid zeros bikes shoutout. i believe these old ones still hang good in there and also theyre kinda unsung heroes cause back then we only had magazines. it would be cool to see your pov on this and to share your thoughts about how far we went from then!
Love the KTM red color option.
How would you fix the front brakes on that is there any aftermarket parts you can do to fix that problem
My 2022 TE husky comes also with Braketec... different feel indeed compared to Brembo/Magura
waiting for you todo a 22 sherco se 300 factory and compare it apples to apples to the ktms
Thank gas gas when u accidentally stab the front brake and your still upright a little buffer is no problem better than being on your face haha I know from experience prob some adjustments would smooth it out thanks for the vid Kyle almost got my ktm back up and running ….. live to ride ride to live
I will take one of these reviews (this is not a bad review per se) of a new "GasGas" seriously only when it is compared to an "old" spanish GasGas/Rieju. Otherwise it's a comparison between parts in the KTM parts catalog.
Compare price (when new). Compare components on the bikes when bone stock. Compare feel of the bikes. Compare suspension.
KTM does so much good on their bikes. They feel good, quality feels good, they push technology forwards etc. But that doesn't take away the facy that these, and the new Huskys, are basically graphics kits with linkage and evolutionary cAst tRipLe cLamPs.
Would be awesome if you did a review of any bike from TMs enduro lineup :)
Silver wheels look so much better than the colored ones, especially after putting hours on them in the gnar.
Kyle is a orange blood guy same as chevy Ford guys you love your choice
I just looked at their 350 and it didn’t have the headlight which didn’t make sense to me but the 300 does how odd.
Does it have a map switch like some of the 300 KTM tpi
Hey Kyle could you do/ try to do a review on a husqvarna wr300, it might be hard to get your hands on lol, but I wanna know your opinion on the old huskys vs the ones.
The later year italian WR250 and 300 were years behind in development. Very old engine, old frame and so on. Absolutely not bad bikes but not up to par with other bikes from the same era.
The Huskys with the new chassis from 2008-2009 forwards were brilliant (125 2T, 250-310 4T). I have a WR125 from 2012 and I would strongly recommend that over their 250/300 2T.
If going for a 300 I would at least try the GasGas (Made in Spain) from 2013-forward. Such a easy to ride bike with linear, trials like power.
@@henripuustinen4642 yeah in getting a 2013 wr300 this weekend and I was just wondering how they would compare to the new ktm huskys, I think that if ktm didn't have brought husqvarna they would have become a rival to ktm in enduro and mx
I have a "real" GasGas 300 and love it! I'm sure there have been many improvements but the new red KTM is pretty awesome
Husqvarna dropped Magura hydraulics. The TE's get Braktec now also and the TX bikes get brembo
have you given this bike away yet? 😂 i sold my cbr600 f4i during the fall and need a toy Kyle
You have assistants now?
Hey sir love all your video hope I'll have a bike like that some day
Not a true Gas Gas.. just another KTM version in red dressing with few cheapened components, which KTM has been gravitating towards.
I used to ride original Gas Gas bikes years ago and they were built very tough. They were a little on the heavy side but built solid with high end components. Probably one branded bike I owned that required the least amount of maintenance compared to any dirt bike built. And I have owned countless ones.
If you want an original tough built GG then get a Reiju.
I'm with you. I was more interested in GasGas before the KTM merger. I'm on record saying that. The reason I've bought this bike is because I've had OVERWHELMING requests for it.
@@DirtBikeChannel I know....
You are so right!
Same thing applies to my Italian Husky. Tough as an anvil. Never lets me down. My newer KTM…..😔
Good looking bike
Love mine!
KTM is saving money with things like cast triple tree on Gas Gas. The specs look pretty average for the class, but EXPLR suspension!
Always the same type of bike every single 300 2 stroke 🥱