The Guitar Market Is Bloated Because Of The Prices/ Marshall Walked Back Prices / Guitar Of The Week
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09:45 Fender Is Making a 59 Bassman Tone master amp
15:30 The Guitar Market Is Bloated Because Of The Prices
24:40 What you should focus on for the KYG Shirt contest
27:00 Why I was lonely until I found my tribe
30:00 White 3m pads
36:38 Marshall Walked Back Prices
49:00 Buffing a fretboard
50:30 When I made a bass instrumental CD
54:30 Distortion from pedals vs amps
59:30 Guitar Of The week!
• Unboxing my new Kiesel...
1:17:39 My favorite bass player
1:22:35 My most embarrassing story meeting a Artist
1:29:11 The guitar that got away
1:31:30 Can the Kiesel Delo Headless fit in a overhead? How I get it on planes
1:41:20 Why I pick the Laney over the Friedman
1:49:00 Update on my dog
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I hovered over a Fender Vintera II Nocaster offered on Reverb by Cream City Music. I asked for pictures of the actual guitar since it was a demo. They sent the pictures along with an offer: $734 including their full setup service and free shipping. I received the guitar. Looks like a brand new guitar with a great setup.
Cream City is great! I bought 3 demo/b-stock guitars from them during lockdown and I couldn't tell they weren't brand new.
I drop by there all the time,just got a Friedman IRD from them at a great price, everybody there is great.
I have a Vintera II ‘60s. I have historically not been a huge fan of MIM guitars- they just fell flat with me. Workhorses for sure, but just missing this or that- subjective stuff really. The Vintera IIs seem to be a step up. Under the hood they’re still kinda ‘meh’, but the overall package resonates with me much more. I played a few and got mine for $839 with free shipping, stickers intact and zero scuffs. Dealers are openly dodging MAPS these days.
@@777james777 The customer service through Reverb was amazing. They helped me source a case for a Gretsch I bought that didn't include one. I could look through my old messages for his name, but he was so helpful! And they always checked back to make sure I was happy after each one arrived.
Cream city is my favorite retailer. Bought two so far!
watching someone shred with a headless guitar is like watching someone missing a limb do something truly amazing
Travelling w/ guitars is quite different in Europe, the airlines are much more strict about carry-on luggage. It'd be very rare to be allowed to carry on a guitar of any size unless you reserve an extra seat for the guitar. And personally I would never gate-check a guitar in a gig bag.
Thanks for starting The Show off helping us to get our "KYG Shirt Together"!! Gonna have to get a couple of 'em -- 'cause there's a whole bunch of EPIC scenery around these parts (Mammoth Lakes/ E. Sierra) just begging for a photo-opp to help "Pimp The Cause"! I've gotten some deals on "hot gear" which sellers aren't discounting by searching for the "Reverb Discount". Just got a JHS Hard Drive for WELL under $200 (incl. SH + TX) this way!! 😁
“Deals” on Reverb in Canada is an oxymoron. The dealers are sticking to list price.
$1600 seems to be the offering for everything that fills a void. Want a Bassman without the weight and maintenance = $1600. Don’t want an amp at all? ToneMaster modeler = $1600. Want something more metal? Quad Cortex = $1600. Entry level Gibson Les Paul = $1600(roughly after tax).
Mr. & Mrs. KYG, we salute you 🏆🍹🍹🏆 for your dedication. Stay 'Cool'.
Thanks Phil - great hang as usual. Thank you
Most Epiphone Guitars are now not worth the huge increase in price in my humble opinion
Hahaha Gibson has been making headless guitars by default for years. Good one.
My Reverb offers these days range from 5% to 15%
Heyyy I got 2 questions with great answers on today's show
Great episode again, Phil.
Re the discounts on gear. In the UK it`s not like that at all. Prices are going up and lots of folks are asking crazy prices for even second hand gear. And not much is shifting. Time to move to the US.....
Pro Audio Star is awesome. I got a brand new Wolfgang Special from them for $723 plus tax and free shipping last month.
couldn't make it live but i always watch :)
The Guitar Market Is Bloated, yes. I noticed that some guitar models are better deals new with promotions, than used on Reverb. Sometime free shipping from retail and high shipping on reverb. This is crazy to me.
Marcus Miller is the boss. My all-time favorite.
I've been a huge fan of Meshell Ndegeocello from her first album forward and it's been amazing to watch their journey from absolute monster bassist to incredible composer. This most recent album is miles away from the first and I'm totally here for it!
The prices are high everywhere BUT the used market, clearance market, and sales market are very alive. I have watched guitars on Reverb and waited 60+ days and when I clicked on the listings I was watching again, they'd give me a much better offer. Then, a new deluxe guitar I have wanted went on sale for such a crazy price that I pulled the trigger. In this market, I would only buy items for less than I could sell them for.
Thanks Phil , love the show hope your Dog is getting better. 4th of July Independence Day my Wedding anniversary ( THE IRONY ISN'T LOST ON ME ) after Thirty something years, STILL THE LUCKIEST MAN IN THE WORLD 🌎 hope you all have a wonderful weekend. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
very good I like
Phil, great belated 4th of July from fellow Army Vetran Clinical Specialist combat medic.
Phil, Thanks for serving ... on doing your podcasts, etc!!!
At the moment I’ve seen a lot of deals in the UK of new £3000-£6000 premium guitars with £500 off, but in general there is less sub £1500 stock available in general- even without discounts. I get the feeling retailers went all in on high end stuff that the majority of customers won’t ever consider.
I was unaware of that.
In the US there seems to be more affordable guitars than buyers. I'm seeing sub $1,500 that have been for sale for over a year. I wanted to sell off some of my collection, but I think I'll wait.
"There's something funny about those gas prices!", Mike Nesmith, Elephant Parts, 1981. 😎
Got almost 30% off a new Adam Jones Epi art collection through Reverb. I had approached another dealer direct, where they were on offer, but they wouldn't come down to the price I wanted. The shop that did match my price were eager though, threw in a set up to seal the deal.
....😮Today was Friday!
Hey Phil 4 years ago or maybe right before COVID I bought a brand new 59 combo it was like 12:50 from guitar center in schererville Indiana right outside of Chicago kind of
The Bassman Tone Master amp has an effects loop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you use a pre-amp pedal?
Good to hear your dog is doing better
I got my new Bassman this March new from Reverb for $1519.00 SHIPPED! I liked a few others and got that ridiculous deal on an offer. I took it for sure.
What would you recommend for aa second amp.Have a beginner amp right now .Fender 600.Just play for myself but want a good mellow sound
Marshall is just dropping the price on amps that are not selling in the stores. Ones that are still selling they're not.
the cabs seemed to have all been closed out, I got a deal on the Silver Jubilee head and started looking for the cab. like you said NOBODY has new ones, I decided to go through Mojotone, it's just as good if not better construction, near the same price and made in the USA.
The bassman is my dream amp but the fact i couldn't crank it at practice was a big down side, i can still get a silver jubilee fpr half the price
I was at the Music Zoo yesterday here on Long Island in Farmingdale and they had some very good prices on some of their new and used gear. I actually left without buying a guitar which wasn’t easy ahah 😂
( My wife knew I was going, I think she was more surprised than I was when I returned with nothing lol ).
Would you share the schematic on how to wire that Delos configuration?
That pricing spike is directly related to your ocean shipping cost increases during that period. Fact.
Very hard to get a floyd rose original at the moment. Unless you're left handed
...or you buy "pre-owned"! 😁
I just bought a McCarty SE 594. $799, brand new, out the door off of Reverb. With a Plek, setup, and strings of my choosing (Elixir). The same purchase at Sweetwater was almost $1200. It’s my first PRS, and I was curious. $800 was manageable, $1200, not so much. The deals out there are amazing right now.
Nice deal, care to mention who is selling with free plek? Thanks!
@@meatpuppet71 C and M Music Lafayette - I found the guitar on Reverb and they were awesome to work with. Also free shipping.
Dammit I wanted to ask Phil about fenders
1:35:00 Would be interesting to have a short scale guitar to make it even smaller. Like those short scale jackson dinky guitars.
ok, now this thing is beautiful, and plays very nice, i wanted that out of the way first,i just bought a jackson kelly with the shattered mirror finish, because i simply could not continue living if i didn't have one,,it was round about $1,100 , it used to be , even just a few years ago, that price point was a really nice guitar,and it's nice ,but not charvel nice , as far as playability goes, it's pretty, but the options and quality control used to go alot farther on an 11 hundred dollar guitar, now i have done zero set up on this thing at all, so i can't say as to it's potential godlieness, but out of the box it doesn't feel like a 11 hundred worth of guitar, i worked at hoshino on the level of not repair room but more advanced than a basic QC ,guy , so i can build you a guitar from scratch , but i didn't want to have to, that's why i got the kelly, so i will make this thing a god , but it's a neck through so i kinda got what i got as far as what i can do to make the action buttery, i usually won't order guitars online , because they are all very individual, and you can usually feel it if it's gonna be good with some tweeks, but there's no where to go anymore to check them out, so now i'm at the mercy of the blind internet sale, it sucks
Dude we want a throw it off the roof and open it up and play it video that would be epic
If I saw the prices of the JCM 800 and JCM 900 I might have gone one of those instead. But Dave Mustaine uses a JVM410H so had to get it.
I am loving this bloated market, lowball the hell out of everything and eventually you'll get it. I picked up an rd20 in literally mint condition for ~half of market value a few months ago.
I had to laugh a year or two ago when I looked at a PRS Private Stock on Reverb. A few days later they offered me $5.00 off. I didn't buy.
I love the $5.00 coupon lol give me your email and we will knock $5 off a $1500 guitar.
Lol, you should have sent them a message saying you just wanted to let them know that there was a typo in the offer you received, they forgot a few zeros.
Chris Squire
Love dogs
The picture you showed has my cousin Gregg in it, it's the second picture from the left on the top row between the T and the h. He died in a house fire about 2 years ago.
I’m sorry to hear that. My condolences
@@PhillipMcKnight Thank you Phil. I enjoy all your videos and your time and effort to make all the awesome videos.
That's a good story:)
Clearly we need a deep dive of one of the Marcus Miller Sires with Marcus Miller.
The Birthday Joke was funny......seems like it happens every year...
?Phil, l have a Fender '59 Bassman that I purchased in 2006 from (Jason and Tim) DrumCityGuitarLand for $750.00.
What did you say they are selling for from Fender now?
That was almost twenty years ago lmfao hilarious you would make that comparison though
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Thanks for having a Know Your Gear contest to let us have some fun!! 🙏💪
Phil, that bit on the crass old boring normie guy you did was perfect!
$113 for shipping a tshirt????? I dont think so. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is the doggy, I'm watching to get news....
I’m actually on the right side of buying selling guitars for once.
I work at it.
Guitar of Silence strikes again 😜
Is there any chance you could go over the copyright process that you use? A lot of the music copyright videos on YT are a little difficult / hard to follow. Thanks,
good to know gluten may remove joint pain.
The andy griffith show. The police car is from..
Do you actually use a Tone Master?
ok $6.95 for regular shipping. Send me my PRS guitar already
Deals? Yep. Just saved $500 on a new PRS S2 Custom 24 10th Aniversary. Same spec as the incoming 2024 models, but with the bonus of MoP birds. But, the '23's have gotta go!
We had to put our little Brutus down almost two weeks ago . He had cancer . That is one of the hardest things we ever had to do . We miss him terribly . We still have his little sister. They were eleven years old in May . They become your children. I’m sorry to hear about your dog . Our dogs are little Pomeranians . We miss him every day .
It seems to me as a casual Reverb shopper, that everything is overpriced once you add the shipping costs in. Used gear sells for basically what the new versions cost when you add in shipping. How do they sell their used gear with prices nearly as new?
On the note of meeting famous musicians who are actually really cool people, Phil Lesh and his wife walked up to 14 year old me because I was wearing a hat I'd ironed a steal your face patch onto, and Phil just opens with "Hey, nice hat, is that official, I didn't realize we were making those" and I explained it was just an official patch on any ol hat. I should have shaken their hands, but I was just kind of awe struck, tongue tied, and 14, so his wife just says. "ya know, I used to date Phil Lesh" and they give each other a smile and then walk off laughing. Its a funny little anecdote, but honestly, they just vibed like really nice warm wholesome folks with like zero ego, and even though they had a laugh at my expense for being too tongue tied to say much, and part of me was like holy shit that was Phil Lesh, left feeling like I'd just ran into some old friends or something.
Phil, I love you but PICTURE has a C in it!
Nah it’s pitcher now
NOTHING IS SELLING, NOTHING
The used guitar market bubble is coming to an end, as expected. The flippers and scalpers are still out there asking ridiculous prices but, aren't going to get them anymore. You're gonna see a lot of gear sitting for long periods at those crazy prices. Slowly starting to see the "price drops". And the amount of gear listed for sale has drastically reduced because the flippers can no longer get what they are asking to even make their money back.
I looked at the Reverb outlet store, and the supposed gear on there are not reasonable prices.
¡¤¡ I prefer if i can afford a Gibson would be an Explorer ... (reverse headstock???)
Ive been wanting a shirt, Now I gotta buy one. All I want is You send me a PRS guitar
Thank you feel as always and happy Independence Day I met my guitar hero in 19881.82 and I was Johnny Winter cuz when I was when I was up well let's see I can't really edit this because I'm using text-to-speech because I'm a blind guitarist LOL but when I was trying to say is I meant my guitar hero in 1981 I'm going to say which made me 22 my friends who was a few years older than me was Johnny Winters doctor so we got some really good seats I took my girlfriend at the time with me and we sat down and saw the show sitting next to us cuz we were sitting it was tables I forget the name of the place it's in lower Manhattan the palladium maybe could be wrong silver tables at the place they had the waitress and waiter service but sitting next to the table and our section sitting in the next table over in our section with chubby checker when we went backstage to a way to go see Johnny went to his room was just one really long and Steve stairway case up anyway chubby checker wasn't lying ahead of me to go up there and see him so I actually got to say hello in a couple of things talked to him a little bit but I got the impression he really wasn't too into it so I kind of stopped LOL no I can speed ahead to 1991 to 1993 I actually went to the same specialist as Mr winter I used to get free tickets to shows all his latest albums that you know on the CD and cassette several times a year we were in the waiting room at the same time and yes Johnny went to Hathaway or maybe he doesn't have to but he does LOL to be seen just like the regular people the album in 1972 that he released was still alive and well and on the cover he's holding his fiber and I was like oh you know I I have to get a firebird sometime and it took it took over 40 years I think 45 years before I actually pulled the trigger on one that was out of my reach when I was a kid so it was 1972 but yeah in 2017 I pulled the trigger from Sweetwater and I got a firebird they called it a firework see it's really it's just a fire with fire basically but it's a great guitar black guitar amazing at least I think so it's got a Steinberg attorneys this is the worst text to speech attempt was on the 10th I'm not sending it either way but LOL but this thing is screwing up left and rightthe firebird has against steinberger tuners it's got cryogenically treated Rottweiler which is really a thing and it actually really does increase the strength of the the hardness I should say of the metal by 444 400 percent if I'm not mistaken they use cryogenically treated metals and a lot of different industries and I think in the aerospace business also it's got titanium saddles it's got an extra thick rosewood fingerboard and that helps and you know you know that alone to find my tone LOL not just kidding but you know it is it it was a speck on it extra thick fretboard the firebird is an amazing guitar in general it's my favorite guitar although it's not the guitar play the most I was going to say cuz I do play it a lot and if I really think about it I might actually play that more than my other guitars I think probably the Steinberg as soon as my turn from my new off because it's not traditional you know there's nothing like banjo tuners LOL but they work really cool and there are you know when I got the guitar in 2017 and my eyesight wasn't as bad as it is today which is virtual useless LOLI could make out the 9 piece neck not in any real detail let's say but I can see the difference in the you know I can see the stripes I was able to make out some green to actually when I would hold it under a light or bring it out in the sun but that was it back in 2017 that's no longer an option for me I love my firebird and I put my things in it I put one really good one that I haven't yet for it to the guitar tech because there's no guitar text near me for like 30 mi I live in the capital of Suffolk county New York Long Island and there's not one guitar store there's a music and arts where should I use them for quite a while they have a guitar texting but you didn't talk to the fact that you talked to the guy at the store and then he would write it down and tell it so there was a third person there and I didn't like that plus they screwed me at one point after being a customer I'm all over the place see I'm sorry 😐my fourth is is really no guitar text anywhere near me so it's hard for me sometimes to get rides to a places cuz I don't drive anymore and so I never had the the the the the the thing it's more than a ding on the Firebirds body you can't see it from the front and I first you know I don't see that well when I touched it I freaked out and I feel like a picture holy s*** and I ended up just putting it in a case like I couldn't deal with it LOL about a week later I took it out and it wasn't as bad as I thought it to be that happens when you can't see lol but but I do want to have it fixed and you know made to look new again if possible it's got the vintage sunburst on it so you know it's translucent this has become a book phone number for us to read it so lol anyway the one other thing about meeting somebody that you know that this was a band that I don't know if you remember a band called The Go-Go's you have to go back again to the early eighties probably orand there was a really renowned club that are on on the Long Island in Nassau county that have been around for years that they got really really really really really really great you know venues and the Go-Go's were there and my friend was like I had a friend who would always end up somehow getting into the backstage the famous musician anyway he got us backstage and it was just insane and it was like that there was drugs the the drummer I can't remember her name pinch my ass no s*** that you can't make this kind of stuff up anyway that was an experience cuz I did like to go cuz I thought they were kind of cool and this is you know the gulf coast it is far cry from where that you know Johnny Winter and all the other stuff that I listen to but I just like them so that was pretty exciting for me I was going to add another story from the Ellen show who used to own the Allen soul was a co-owner of a club in Greenwich village called the bottom line on 4th Street I know him because he used to come to where I used to work all the time and that's that or not I'm not going to tell any stories of the people I met their famous people and stu and I can't end without saying cuz he's a musician he was a musician still it or is it still was so he died he played all over the place tiny Tim😢 tiny Tim yes I even got to talk to him for a short a short period engaging conversation but he seems like a nice guy this is really the end of my novelas I don't know if I'm going to print it to sell but it's here on the internet for eternity sometimes you just got to you know do what you feel and post it sincerely Bob the blind bedroom guitarist 1:51:27 f
Yea - Small animal vets will gouge you, but we love our pets. I once had a Great Dane - Rudy - who reached up on a counter and ate a whole large pizza. The next day he had explosive diarrhea, which when you get diarrhea with a Great Dane you better have a fire hose to clean the house. An antibiotic - Metronidazole - cured him within hours.
The very same thing happened to my friends Dane, he counter surfed a large bowl of fried chicken. The poor dog imploded the following day, I believe he used Imodium to slow it down.
“Your money will will run out before the deals ever do”
Translation: Your money will run out before the guitars ever do.
You have me talked into the McKnight copper guitar but i decided not to get a divorce instead. 6 electric guitars, I bass guitar, 1 acoustic and three amps are enough is what i have been told. P.S. and 20 plus pedals too. It is not the money it is the space.
All the hype over the Epiphone Greeny and the Prs dgt….there 3-400 off. There not as good as Gibson or Prs core….
Marshall is now using parts from Vietnam in their flagship amp models. There are reports of transformers coming from there. And because in EU there is no law like in USA that says that 'made in EU' products are required to be fully created in EU, they might as well have the whole chassis made in Vietnam, shipped to UK, put in a box that is made by few old workers in UK (from plywood imported from China of course), slap 'Made in England' on the back, and still get away with it. Or they go the Celestion route; they started moving production to China in early 90's, and then you had speakers that said '50' where you would find 'made in UK' text. Eventually it was decoded as meaning made in China. Maybe Marshall is going to hide it somehow. If you wanna buy a used Marshall, anywhere in the world, that's 'made in UK' somewhat honestly, this is the last chance. Once Vietnamese-made Plexis and JTMs appear, anyone who has a used one for sale will bump the price to more than new. I bought a JTM45 head 2 years ago for ca. 1000 eur, I guess I should feel lucky with timing, in worst case I'll be able to sell it for double and claim something like 'Dagnall transformers' or whatever.
Americans get cheap fender amps, brots get cheap marshalls, now you get cheap marshalls too, thats not fair!
Your meeting Marcus Miller story reminds me of the time I met Iggy Pop. Thankfully, no pictures were taken lol. To this day, I will go out of my way not to meet my idols ever again.
Bassman, too pricy for 0s & 1s .
Somebody show me the blue book when it comes to used gear prices,if not, then where are these looney toon price tags coming from???????
I noticed that you might find a great price on Reverb, but then the shipping cost is sometimes a crazy amount.
A top auto dealer retired at the age of 30 with millions of dollars drove me over to a Cadillac dealership and said what's wrong with that picture ? Cadillac Escalades in overflow ,on the sidewalks ,and in the grass, everywhere you look. He spoke up and said this is a major major problem and is a warning of the economy coming.... when the economy is overheated a serious correction is going to come and it could spell recession
Reverb is a joke. I see better deals at Guitar Center.
Jaco is WAY more of a great to bass, than Clapton is to guitar. Clapton was the best mainstream white guy for a short period of time. That was his only claim to fame.
when groceries cost 3x more then 2 years ago...over priced guitars will soon be the least of your worries.
The LOW END guitar market is bloated. The highest end markets haven't seen the same kind of shakeup, vintage perhaps, but newer super high end guitars are as in demand now as they've ever been.... Cheap shit made by slavery in a third world country for pennies on the dollar wasn't made sustainable to fit demand... go figure....
No politics in you guitar man..? The 'Priests of the Temple of Syringes' appreciate your cooperation...
That's why I didn't have kids.......didn't want to interact with the other parents and have those meaningless small talks.
That doesn’t happen. My kids are the best things in my whole world. They ground you, make you see what’s really important in the world, and they teach you a lot about yourself. Besides that, don’t hang around lame parents.
What an insanely stupid and shallow reason not to have kids.
@@nick_ashley That's society today. That guy.
Really? I made a decision very early in life not to have kids.
I dont regret that decision. Its been a great life.
To each his own….one less breeder
Its not the price there ARE TOO MUCH GEAR.. AND MYCH MORE RAPER... not rockeurs or bluesmen... guitare is a boomer stuff...
Without artist to promote it and only dinausor... it will die like the ol greedy boomers that made it....
May it rest in peace
Absolutely corporate greed in America is out of control, from guitars to cars to food😢 the only solution I guess is I'm done buying anything, I will not be buying any new guitars, amps and I damn sure won't be buying a new vehicle😂
If you didn't vote or you voted for Biden DONT COMPLAIN!
Nope. $1300 for a digital amp? Katana or Catalyst blows that shit away and either can sound just like the digital Fender. Useless products for logo hunters. If you really play music outside your bedroom, its useless. Ive used a small Blackstar amp and had people ask about the tone. Doesn’t matter its about the SONGS!!!