Given that EA was still presentable when this was made, imagine if they gave Live 10 a roster update and a token new feature while building the groundwork for this, and then building on that and going all out for 2012. Could've been pretty good.
I don't know about that. 2K11 was so good and so big, they had to put something out to rival it. While waiting a year might've worked better in hindsight, at the time they didn't really have the choice if they wanted to stay alive.
And 2k12 wasn’t as pivotal as 2k11 either like I reminder something of the issues when it first dropped. A 2k11 level nba live coming in 2011 would’ve been interesting to rival 2k12
I’ll be 36 in August and it’s awesome to me how my childhood was spent playin NBA Live back in the late 90s to mid 00s. That was peak NBA Live. I don’t play sports games anymore. Lack of depth/care and it’s all about micro transactions now days..
@@CursedSportsEntertainment Yeah, that was probably the last 2K I really liked. NBA 2K, 2K1 and 2K2 are absolute classics to me. To be a kid back then, man. Nostalgic
Lol. So yall gone sit here and the 145 ppl who liked it gone act like Mike Wang wasnt sent in from 2k? Lol. Like really though what are the chances the man comes n gives Live a great game n leaves a year later to go right back to 2k. That a be like how kd joined the warriors after giving them the series in okc n den going back to okc after he left... Lbs. Mike wang was never "Gone" from 2k just like he was never "in" on nba live.. even if the "developers were idiots"(his words) you walk in a year... Let alone go right back to where you "left from". Thats a simple finesse move. They infiltrated live w a spy n sabotaged their franchise financially. If they stole anything ea could sue, they got their game dragged online n prolly was the root of the Bynum Jesus video going so viral or the bug alone. Lbs. Dpnt sleep on how dirty the game in, mind you 2k had its 2 greatest years when live was missing n the rest is history as we know, the competition was never the same after that. Big business speak n names ring bells the biggest name then n now was MJ. 2k had him, if he said he was in on sumn or sumbody, thats who eerbody backing. Tjats y 2k didnt go big on gameplay it was big on presentation mind you 2k12 had the blacl n white n so forth. Thats all shit they stole from live. They polished their games w stuff from live while blinding eerbody w "the return of jordan" n classic teams. So not only did you love it, ur dad loved it. Thats what we all remember about live growing up. Lol. Dont mind me though im just a guy who has a weird way of predicting stuff n you ask where you get your info... Trust your gut. All praise to the most high.
W retrospective video as always Mr. SoftDrink. What's funny though is what I got from this was that 2k mastered the dual analogs quicker than Live or "elite" could which allowed them to take off.. EA would've been smart to postpone that game, Master it even better than 2k, and then release for 12 or 13. Both years of which were some of 2k's more "forgotten" years where the games were good by default because there were no EA games to contend.
I commend EA for trying to innovate and make something new with NBA Elite 11. But if they were going to try and “re-invent the wheel” they shouldn’t have tried to do it in their regular turnaround. They should’ve took a year off and tried to make the game the best they possibly could.
@@Davinhomx Competition encourages innovation. 2k coasts now because there is no competitor. NBA Live 10 led to 2k11 (arguably there best game of all time) 2k is also way more greedy. None of EA's games are pay to play like the last decade of 2k games. 2k is all based on micro transactions now.
@@oota4421 lmao. Tell that to people that actually played fifa ultimate team or star wars lmfao🤣🤣 it's easy af to become 99 overall in 2k and if you pay ypu get capped at some point. Let alone that you keed your badges. You clearly never played an EA sports game or star wars battlefront
This is an eerily similar situation to Sonic The Hedgehog 2006, a game with actual soul and a solid gameplay foundation, along with innovations not even seen today in sonic games due to rushing, impossible deadlines, and a completely tragic development cycle. Now Sonic team runs from anything associated with 06, unfortunately leaving some of the best sonic gameplay to be had in the series to appease critics, which they don’t do well neither.
Every game needs least a 2 years window to fix everything.. so it wouldn't cost you money to fix(sending out patches).. Something you should have fixed in the first place..
The foundation of the game was there but the backlash after the demo was released got EA scared and pulled the plug and they never really bothered to polish the formula for all I know. If Live 10 got a roster update and we saw Elite 12/Elite 13 get revealed, tried out, and plays great then we can see great competition between the two basketball games rise. This is what's missing not just in video games but just things in general: Going down safe and trendy routes because the risks may be too much if failure was the result from actual and genuine responses to trends rather than just pandering. NFTs are an example. A lot of companies are jumping on the NFT train which has pretty much led to failure instead of just actually providing something valuable and different to the trend or just rejecting it entirely if it does inevitably lead to failure. While I mostly grew up with 2K instead of Live, it's really sad to see such a great competitor fall down and off like this. Still a great video, Soft. Hope to see more.
I actually play tested this game. They had us play a short game with the person next to us. I remember us both laughing out loud at how ridiculously easy it was to make shots from everywhere. I was chucking threes with Rondo and hitting all of them. About the only way we missed any shots was if they got blocked.
When I'm in a bad mood, NBA Elite 11 is the game that gets me back on track. Videos don't do it complete justice. The day you're able to play it is the day you gain a 6 pack from laughing so hard
It’s awesome as a die hard hockey fan to see how the NHL Controls really influenced another sports series. Same with the main menu/scoreboard looking exactly like NHL 11, it’s a cool little thing that distinguishes EA sports games from other titles
I remember 3 years ago at the Midwest Gaming Classic I was browsing some vendors when some one bought a copy of Elite. At first I was like "What? How is it that expensive?" and had a discussion about it.
Your part on perhaps they made what could be argued as a good business move to get away from it but the fact they’re no longer even going proves they sacrificed long term gains for short term ones, which in turn hurts their long term potential. Great video and insight
After playing 2k since 3 years and being drowned in micro-transactions, I still hope that NBA LIVE will be back one day ... They deserve another chance.
@@gallant3646 I don't know, maybe just depends on the person, I've played live '19 every now and then and 2k just feels better, have you played on PS? I don't like the clunkiness of the Xbox controller either it's weird lol
@@jayanderson7508 i did play on PS but i agree with you about the feeling of the game, i'll say that 2K feels better but Live is less annoying with the micro-transactions
@@gallant3646 depends on the transactions remember you always have the option to spend money in game, and they both advertise stupid my team when you load them, I hate the grind of 2k but I never buy anything, I try not to buy anything in games unless it's a fighting game with dlc characters. It definitely cost more VC to buy stuff now seems like but live 19? The prices are outrageous for the bit of in game currency they give you
What’s wild is Live 10 was a good game they went and changed it for no reason, 10 was better than 2k10 in some things but they should have kept it cooking for 2-3 years and kept doing live for a year or two
I grew up on NBA Live. Genesis or SNES was when I was introduced to it. I still play my copy of NBA Live 19 to this day. Was introduced to 2K basketball through the Dreamcast. Fell in love with it instantly. But still bought & played NBA Live. 2K really took over when they added all the playable legends. Once Jordan graced the cover it was a wrap. Alot of ppl(younger) may not realize how rare it was to actually have an AUTHENTIC(without you having to create him yourself) SG #23 MICHAEL JORDAN for the Chicago Bulls in a video game. It was mind blowing to say the least when it happened!
I think I remember an authentic Jordan in Lakers vs Celtics.....even some of the bulls games and even I think live 96😅 but you right it was hard as hell to catch an authentic Jordan in a game...... memories man.......I liked penny hardaway anyway 😅💯
Yea I was 1 of the few witta Dreamcast co-signing 2k was better when Live was on top my friends didn’t believe me at the time that was in 2000 I was 14 yro now I’m 36 so it’s safe to say I was 100% right 🤷🏽♂️ even back then 2k was really you seen sweat on the players & overall graphics was better
@@christopheriverson7103 I was so disappointed when he was not on ANY of the MID 90s NBA JAMs...🤣 Out all games....Would have been an absolute cheat code.
@@antoniopalmer15 I seen them coming bro. I could'nt put my head in the sand no more about it. They had the most popular cover athlete at the time. Allen Iverson too.
I remember downloading this demo and it was nice. Switching hands to do a reverse lay up was amazing. Too bad it never came to be I always played live back in the day and only switched to 2k when this never dropped
I remember playing the demo for NBA Elite 11 and couldn’t believe what I was playing. I used to get NBA Live every year, but 11 was such a letdown. I remember having a glitch where the screen zoomed in on a player inbounding the ball and I couldn’t do anything. Meanwhile, the announcers were talking as if a game was still being played lol. Such a shame they never really recovered from it. We need competition for sports games again. 2K has suffered from having no competition.
Done watching, and I've come away with a new perspective with NBA Elite 11 and Sonic '06 being not that different from each other, in how they were ambitious failures, which caused their respective companies to run away from, thanks to everyone tearing them to shreds. Now that we've got Project '06, I'm sure there's one developer willing to do a fan remake of NBA Elite 11, to build on the foundation and get rid of the bugs.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 On the contrary. They had started overusing the side-scrolling sections of the "Boost"-style games more and more, to the point where the 3D games had more 2D sections than 3D ones. Whenever a formula fails, they throw it away. That's what they did with the Adventure formula after '06, ditching the other playable characters and hub worlds while ignoring that the real issue was that '06 was rushed.
Another excellent video. Do one about NBA basketball games from the past that still holdup and/or are better than the new games. For example, I still play NBA 2K14 religiously on PC even though I own NBA 2K20-2K22. The animations and realistic jumpshot releases kill NBA 2K20-2K22. If a person can get over the beauty of the newer games and truly enjoy the animations and smoothness the older better games were known for, try the old-gen version of NBA 2K14.
Yea 2k14 ps4 xbox one might just b the greatest 2k of all time factoring in everything. One of the few nba games w the foggey arenas. That alone, lol. Bruh when career mode was grinding, it was that year or next where you got ur badges from doing stuff in game realistically not the lame system 2k been using. Its hard to emulate ps4 n stuff so far bt the day coming real soon. Lol. Idk if its worth collect a ps4 for a few games bt between that amd the 3 its certain games the emulators dont run that leave me like damnit... Nobody has money to buy every system all over again to replay individual games. Lol. I tell ppl all thw time 360 woulda been iSwitched over had I known about pc then, n kept all my systems to think iWas trading in some of these games n systems is beyond angering. Lmao.
It looks like they were trying to make the controls similar to nba live 2003. You could use the right stick to do everything and could actually post up
Elite 11 was dope. I had the demo on my fat ps3. I don't remember how the actual basketball played but the control you had with layups and shots etc felt like an evolution of the dribble stick.
I don’t remember seeing ads for Elite 11 at all. Looks like this game had some promise, potential and could maybe compete with 2k11 which I definitely remember.
Ur statement is a big part of how 2k finessed da game... They paid eerbody possible to talk about n or be in the game (Biggest one Jordan) for the first time recently n did the unthinkable m doubled down w thw rivals from the era prior on multi covers. That nostalgia trip for ppl alone swpt over nations, they started adding hip hop spundtracks n the rest is history. Lol. 2k knew exactly wjat it was doing in many ways n its no coincidence live got blackballed n fell off soon after. Its like having big n little jokers in spades w 3 cards left n you need 2 of the 3 books... Welp you got that one n unfortunately for the opps, aint shit dats trumpin dose 2 moves. Lol. Checkmate. 2k sabotaged ea from the inside out n thats the part nobody talks about.
I went to the community event in 2010 in Vancouver where they showcased Elite 11 to several people from OperationSports and I represented the NBA Live Series Center. I was the only one to give it a thumbs up because I knew it was the future. Boy was I wrong. People want the game to play for them. NBA Elite 11 wasn't finished. No layup slider, no "shooting" fouls on jumpshots no matter what the slider is set at, only in-air collision fouls on layups and dunks. CPU steal and interception slider affects cpu controlled teammates on the users team. User freethrow slider affects cpu freethrow shooting, too. The CPU did not use the regular gather step, except it used the euro and spin gathers, but the normal gather was how you really get to the basket since creating room. It also never shot hook shots. I think I saw 1 in hundreds of hours. There were no banked layups due to the technology behind the aiming of the shot with the right stick. If they had released the game, then patched it's bugs and improved on it in the next years, we would probably have an amazing NBA EA game right now. I've played around 700 hours of Elite 11. Yes, I was able to get the T-pose bug to trigger once. What could have been...
They should’ve done the standard roster update and kept it as NBA Live 11 whilst spending a couple years on the gameplay overhaul and releasing when ready NBA live 10 was an amazing game and adding classic teams and stuff would’ve been a nice update for a new game EA panicked and f’d it up big time
I remember when this was supposed to come out the trailer for it was dope but then when it came out the glitches in this game was crazy I just want to have it for the collection. I was mad when it got canceled because I had high hopes to wanna play it I really enjoyed love 15,16,18,19 still play 19
7th, 8th and now 9th generation of game developers learned that to make a truly great game you cant do it in a year anymore especially if you're making a game from the ground up. A quality game in 2010 I'd say at minimum took 3 years, now a decade plus later it takes at minimum 5 years to make a quality game if you want to do anything different.
Great video. We played Live 10 until they shut the servers down in 12 or 13. There was still a packed lobby online full of demons who refused to buy 2k and I was one of them. Live 10 was the best ever imo. ❤️
Rainbow Six Siege is one of the best examples of devs being allowed to take a risk, and then supported, not thrown away when it fails. Rainbow Six Siege was a mess when it first released. It's player count when up, and then steeply down. It was buggy and had many rough spots that turned gamers away, and rightfully so. Yet Ubisoft stuck with the game and the developers, and it became one of the most popular first-person shooters that is critically acclaimed, and many of the features in the game, such as how dynamic maps are with their structural damage, have yet to be replicated with the same quality. You can say what you want about it nowadays, but at its peak, it was head and shoulders the best FPS available, with a rewarding skill gap and many elements that made each round different. Had EA been in charge, the developers probably would've been pulled off to work on other games, and Rainbow Six Siege would be known as the NBA Elite 11 of first-person shooters.
And sports games are different to normal video games. Because people are controlling real - life characters in their virtual consoles. The fact sports games in general has been spiralling down in terms of quality, shows that major innovation and thinking has to be done.
This was a great video! You were dropping philosophical quotes that all of us truly need to start incorporating in our daily lives… If anybody has a passion for something and it’s what they truly want to do with their life, they will be willing to endure the growth and the pains that come with it… If you take the safe route to avoid failure, you have already failed 👀👀🔥🔥🔥🔥
Perfectly Perfectly Perfectly written. You can tell he's quite educated to be able to fuse very strong philosophical quotes in a NBA oriented subject video. That's "one" of the keys of happiness and success. Find what you are truly passionate about and something you truly want to do with your life. "truly". You'll never work a day in your life and all the pain and obstacles that come along will be like getting a centimeter scratch on your skin (paraphrasing)
*i had it pre-ordered and was MAD AF when they canceled it. should've just released it exclusively online for 20 bucks instead of junking it. Live 19 made up for it though...it has roughly the same stick functions and dribble mechanics.*
Hay i liked the video. Back then ea sports was a good game company, now they only care about 1 thing, MONEY! ITS A DAMN SHAME THAT THERE ARE NO GOOD SPORTS GAMES anymore! ITS 1 of the reasons i dont play sports games anymore!
I feel the same way, I liked when NHL used to be amazing, now they only care about one thing, the money hut, it’s Dame shame that there are no good sports games made by EA anymore. 1 of the reasons I don’t play NHL games anymore, due to it’s messing lot of features, game modes from NHL 14 and older games including NHL 2k games and more, gameplay is still on animation based rather than physics, poor balance, tons of bugs and glitches I have ever seen on the sixth gen or seventh gen console, and lack of competition, NHL is the only company made by EA, it sad.
@@jaheimmoultrie7584 wow i feel your pain. I gave up on all sports games years ago. If im gonna burn $60 bucks for a game it needs to be worth my time and money not the wash, rinse & repeat from last year. Far as ea is concerned they died years ago.
By the 2008 release of both titles, 2k was already the #1 rated basketball videogame. And from there they just began steamrolling nba live from that point on.
I picked this game up at a garage sale for 3 bucks a couple of months ago in real good condition. It's just sitting in my Xbox 360 collection. After watching this I'm not sure how much longer it will just sit.
This Game Is Honestly Fun Not Perfect but still a lot of fun, once u get a feel for the controls it’s a lot of fun. EA added a lot to the game and the first thing I noticed is that there is absolutely NO Canned Animation and like u said we have total control over everything, dribbling, jumpers, dunks, layups.
I remember the build up to this game and I even remember playing the demo and tbh I did not like the controls. I hate shooting with the sticks. I don’t think it’s something I could ever get on board with.
You can change the controls. Lol. Replay it, ignore the bugs(every game still to now has em) n see what yu think. N its 10 years later so you can see kust how ahead n innovative games or now or not. Lol. We need more ppl w first hand perspective cuz the shift is happening. Trust me. A dark new day is coming in tech. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
People can judge me on this, but honestly I always have this itch to go and play a game that is considered that, as I might not know if I actually enjoy it or not. I watch a lot of reviews on games to make sure I’m not gonna be scammed if I were to buy something, but in some games’ case I can’t help, but wanna experience them myself. This is like the second video where I saw someone say the game actually was on a good path(the first was a video about Infinite Warfare). So I feel calm when I see people who are like me, who give games a try despite the bad reception
I think EA are missing an opportunity by not making NBA live again, I love the 2k games but they really need some competition, If they just make a decent nba game, I think it’ll sell well as a lot of people are getting a fed up with 2k, and are ready for an alternative option. It’d just be nice to have to have two NBA games each year too. They just have to make sure that it’s a good game.
It was NBA2K5 and the entire 2k5 Games series that changed every sport's games. 2K5 Sport games was at that time $20 Dollars, and that's when the shift changed.
Never got to experience this game on console but I will say the mobile version back in the day held it down for me. Probably why I never knew it was a bad game since it was actually pretty decent as a mobile game. I used to be going crazy with Pau Gasol for some reason lol
The controls and gameplay were dope I was so ready for elite to come out to compete with 2k11 and Jordan would've have been in gaming heaven for basketball
Elite came up with the controls we have today. Things can take irrational turns as people were getting tired of EA and took the opportunity to praise 2k and destroy Live. Funny enough I left 2k to play the last Live and it was tons of fun. Too bad that ended too
Given that EA was still presentable when this was made, imagine if they gave Live 10 a roster update and a token new feature while building the groundwork for this, and then building on that and going all out for 2012. Could've been pretty good.
I don't know about that. 2K11 was so good and so big, they had to put something out to rival it. While waiting a year might've worked better in hindsight, at the time they didn't really have the choice if they wanted to stay alive.
thats the same thing i thought
And 2k12 wasn’t as pivotal as 2k11 either like I reminder something of the issues when it first dropped. A 2k11 level nba live coming in 2011 would’ve been interesting to rival 2k12
NBA Live 10 was good.. I wish EA still had the same passion they did back then..
Nba live 10 is still fun i play it almost everyday. EA just got lazy
I’ll be 36 in August and it’s awesome to me how my childhood was spent playin NBA Live back in the late 90s to mid 00s. That was peak NBA Live. I don’t play sports games anymore. Lack of depth/care and it’s all about micro transactions now days..
U old Asf 😭👎🏿👎🏽👎🏿
I really enjoy 2k16 but it sucks theres no way to update the software
@@CursedSportsEntertainment Yeah, that was probably the last 2K I really liked. NBA 2K, 2K1 and 2K2 are absolute classics to me. To be a kid back then, man. Nostalgic
Most of the sports games I play now are throwbacks
@@Birdman32 2k2 on Dreamcast is God tier. C Web or AI all day
Damn Mike really left to make some competition and came back just to kill them
So did EA 😂
Mike left because of EA management not because he wanted competition. I dunno where that made up narrative came from.
Rondo lol
I figure he left because of the salary
Lol. So yall gone sit here and the 145 ppl who liked it gone act like Mike Wang wasnt sent in from 2k? Lol. Like really though what are the chances the man comes n gives Live a great game n leaves a year later to go right back to 2k. That a be like how kd joined the warriors after giving them the series in okc n den going back to okc after he left... Lbs.
Mike wang was never "Gone" from 2k just like he was never "in" on nba live.. even if the "developers were idiots"(his words) you walk in a year... Let alone go right back to where you "left from". Thats a simple finesse move. They infiltrated live w a spy n sabotaged their franchise financially. If they stole anything ea could sue, they got their game dragged online n prolly was the root of the Bynum Jesus video going so viral or the bug alone. Lbs. Dpnt sleep on how dirty the game in, mind you 2k had its 2 greatest years when live was missing n the rest is history as we know, the competition was never the same after that. Big business speak n names ring bells the biggest name then n now was MJ. 2k had him, if he said he was in on sumn or sumbody, thats who eerbody backing. Tjats y 2k didnt go big on gameplay it was big on presentation mind you 2k12 had the blacl n white n so forth. Thats all shit they stole from live. They polished their games w stuff from live while blinding eerbody w "the return of jordan" n classic teams. So not only did you love it, ur dad loved it. Thats what we all remember about live growing up. Lol. Dont mind me though im just a guy who has a weird way of predicting stuff n you ask where you get your info... Trust your gut. All praise to the most high.
Really wish 2k and Live would just work together and make a game . A game with 2ks gameplay and NBA lives presentation would be amazing
2ks gameplay???????
I wonder what the title would be tho? I was thinking, maybe 'NBA2KLIVE23'.
U need competition so they challange each other, not be friends and give you fuck all updates.
@@rashaan5216 they would probably just name NBA 2023 with some corny hook after like "NBA 2K23 A NEW GENERATION"
You mean NBA Lives game play and NBA Lives presentation ?
W retrospective video as always Mr. SoftDrink. What's funny though is what I got from this was that 2k mastered the dual analogs quicker than Live or "elite" could which allowed them to take off.. EA would've been smart to postpone that game, Master it even better than 2k, and then release for 12 or 13. Both years of which were some of 2k's more "forgotten" years where the games were good by default because there were no EA games to contend.
Things could look very different if NBA Live 11 released followed by NBA Elite 12
@@SOFTDRINKTV 1000%
I commend EA for trying to innovate and make something new with NBA Elite 11. But if they were going to try and “re-invent the wheel” they shouldn’t have tried to do it in their regular turnaround. They should’ve took a year off and tried to make the game the best they possibly could.
Man this game looks so good. Even the graphics look ahead of their time. Its too bad EA couldn’t finish this project.
EA is more grredy then 2K be happy
@@Davinhomx Competition encourages innovation. 2k coasts now because there is no competitor. NBA Live 10 led to 2k11 (arguably there best game of all time)
2k is also way more greedy. None of EA's games are pay to play like the last decade of 2k games. 2k is all based on micro transactions now.
@@oota4421 lmao. Tell that to people that actually played fifa ultimate team or star wars lmfao🤣🤣 it's easy af to become 99 overall in 2k and if you pay ypu get capped at some point. Let alone that you keed your badges. You clearly never played an EA sports game or star wars battlefront
@@Davinhomx 2k and EA are both greedy+some competition would make the game better
This is an eerily similar situation to Sonic The Hedgehog 2006, a game with actual soul and a solid gameplay foundation, along with innovations not even seen today in sonic games due to rushing, impossible deadlines, and a completely tragic development cycle. Now Sonic team runs from anything associated with 06, unfortunately leaving some of the best sonic gameplay to be had in the series to appease critics, which they don’t do well neither.
Every game needs least a 2 years window to fix everything.. so it wouldn't cost you money to fix(sending out patches).. Something you should have fixed in the first place..
Thank you!
Facts
Nah saying that about sonic 06 is revisionism.
@@CCDaDon15 how so
The foundation of the game was there but the backlash after the demo was released got EA scared and pulled the plug and they never really bothered to polish the formula for all I know. If Live 10 got a roster update and we saw Elite 12/Elite 13 get revealed, tried out, and plays great then we can see great competition between the two basketball games rise. This is what's missing not just in video games but just things in general: Going down safe and trendy routes because the risks may be too much if failure was the result from actual and genuine responses to trends rather than just pandering.
NFTs are an example. A lot of companies are jumping on the NFT train which has pretty much led to failure instead of just actually providing something valuable and different to the trend or just rejecting it entirely if it does inevitably lead to failure.
While I mostly grew up with 2K instead of Live, it's really sad to see such a great competitor fall down and off like this. Still a great video, Soft. Hope to see more.
I actually play tested this game. They had us play a short game with the person next to us. I remember us both laughing out loud at how ridiculously easy it was to make shots from everywhere. I was chucking threes with Rondo and hitting all of them. About the only way we missed any shots was if they got blocked.
When I'm in a bad mood, NBA Elite 11 is the game that gets me back on track. Videos don't do it complete justice. The day you're able to play it is the day you gain a 6 pack from laughing so hard
It’s awesome as a die hard hockey fan to see how the NHL Controls really influenced another sports series. Same with the main menu/scoreboard looking exactly like NHL 11, it’s a cool little thing that distinguishes EA sports games from other titles
I have also played NBA Elite 11 on RPCS3 and I was like man, this game is actually pretty solid and 2k actually took a few things from it.
Where you download it?
@@USR__ can you help me i download it but i can start it
I remember 3 years ago at the Midwest Gaming Classic I was browsing some vendors when some one bought a copy of Elite. At first I was like "What? How is it that expensive?" and had a discussion about it.
Your part on perhaps they made what could be argued as a good business move to get away from it but the fact they’re no longer even going proves they sacrificed long term gains for short term ones, which in turn hurts their long term potential. Great video and insight
After playing 2k since 3 years and being drowned in micro-transactions, I still hope that NBA LIVE will be back one day ... They deserve another chance.
Live 19 is still available on game pass and it's not good at all, the controls and animations blow
@@jayanderson7508 of course the gameplay is way worse than 2k but it's less frustrating tho
@@gallant3646 I don't know, maybe just depends on the person, I've played live '19 every now and then and 2k just feels better, have you played on PS? I don't like the clunkiness of the Xbox controller either it's weird lol
@@jayanderson7508 i did play on PS but i agree with you about the feeling of the game, i'll say that 2K feels better but Live is less annoying with the micro-transactions
@@gallant3646 depends on the transactions remember you always have the option to spend money in game, and they both advertise stupid my team when you load them, I hate the grind of 2k but I never buy anything, I try not to buy anything in games unless it's a fighting game with dlc characters. It definitely cost more VC to buy stuff now seems like but live 19? The prices are outrageous for the bit of in game currency they give you
What’s wild is Live 10 was a good game they went and changed it for no reason, 10 was better than 2k10 in some things but they should have kept it cooking for 2-3 years and kept doing live for a year or two
I grew up on NBA Live. Genesis or SNES was when I was introduced to it. I still play my copy of NBA Live 19 to this day. Was introduced to 2K basketball through the Dreamcast. Fell in love with it instantly. But still bought & played NBA Live. 2K really took over when they added all the playable legends. Once Jordan graced the cover it was a wrap. Alot of ppl(younger) may not realize how rare it was to actually have an AUTHENTIC(without you having to create him yourself) SG #23 MICHAEL JORDAN for the Chicago Bulls in a video game. It was mind blowing to say the least when it happened!
I think I remember an authentic Jordan in Lakers vs Celtics.....even some of the bulls games and even I think live 96😅 but you right it was hard as hell to catch an authentic Jordan in a game...... memories man.......I liked penny hardaway anyway 😅💯
Yea I was 1 of the few witta Dreamcast co-signing 2k was better when Live was on top my friends didn’t believe me at the time that was in 2000 I was 14 yro now I’m 36 so it’s safe to say I was 100% right 🤷🏽♂️ even back then 2k was really you seen sweat on the players & overall graphics was better
@@christopheriverson7103 I was so disappointed when he was not on ANY of the MID 90s NBA JAMs...🤣 Out all games....Would have been an absolute cheat code.
@@antoniopalmer15 I seen them coming bro. I could'nt put my head in the sand no more about it. They had the most popular cover athlete at the time. Allen Iverson too.
Never got my $5 deposit back from GameStop for pre ordering this game
its funny ea treated football so poorly and 2k treated football well and its reverse for basketball now imo I think modern 2k nba titles are awful
even ea treated hockey so poorly since ps4 and xbox one.
NBA Elite 11 was just one of the few unreleased EA Sports titles, the other was Madden NFL 96 for the PS1.
I think this game would be great to polish up, give better graphics, and update the rosters and release today in 2022
I remember downloading this demo and it was nice. Switching hands to do a reverse lay up was amazing. Too bad it never came to be I always played live back in the day and only switched to 2k when this never dropped
I felt this… I loved nba live… I hope it comes back one day
I remember playing the demo for NBA Elite 11 and couldn’t believe what I was playing. I used to get NBA Live every year, but 11 was such a letdown. I remember having a glitch where the screen zoomed in on a player inbounding the ball and I couldn’t do anything. Meanwhile, the announcers were talking as if a game was still being played lol. Such a shame they never really recovered from it. We need competition for sports games again. 2K has suffered from having no competition.
We need a video on Live 18 and 19. Damn I loved the ideas, and the team spoke a lot with the small community.
NBA Live 19 was actually good... In all the parts that weren't the NBA. Street ball stuff was very good, but franchise and career sucked
@@de132 Nba Live 19 is one of my favorites. Still play it now and then
I had fun with the game it just way too advance for it time tbh
Thanks Softdrink, you’ve introduced me to better sports games. You persuaded me to buy a ps2 to play good games. Thank you.
I think Sports Games need a 2 years window.. Just give people updates the next year..
Live 19 is still pretty active. One of the best NBA Lives in the past 10 years.
Done watching, and I've come away with a new perspective with NBA Elite 11 and Sonic '06 being not that different from each other, in how they were ambitious failures, which caused their respective companies to run away from, thanks to everyone tearing them to shreds. Now that we've got Project '06, I'm sure there's one developer willing to do a fan remake of NBA Elite 11, to build on the foundation and get rid of the bugs.
Since when did Sonic stop taking risks? The biggest problem with Sonic Team, is that they never build on their success.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 On the contrary. They had started overusing the side-scrolling sections of the "Boost"-style games more and more, to the point where the 3D games had more 2D sections than 3D ones. Whenever a formula fails, they throw it away. That's what they did with the Adventure formula after '06, ditching the other playable characters and hub worlds while ignoring that the real issue was that '06 was rushed.
@@sambridgers9543 me who has two copies of Sonic Heroes, grabs popcorn
Another excellent video. Do one about NBA basketball games from the past that still holdup and/or are better than the new games. For example, I still play NBA 2K14 religiously on PC even though I own NBA 2K20-2K22. The animations and realistic jumpshot releases kill NBA 2K20-2K22. If a person can get over the beauty of the newer games and truly enjoy the animations and smoothness the older better games were known for, try the old-gen version of NBA 2K14.
NBA Live 2004/2005(emulation) are decent too. On a more arcadey level tho.
Yea 2k14 ps4 xbox one might just b the greatest 2k of all time factoring in everything. One of the few nba games w the foggey arenas. That alone, lol. Bruh when career mode was grinding, it was that year or next where you got ur badges from doing stuff in game realistically not the lame system 2k been using. Its hard to emulate ps4 n stuff so far bt the day coming real soon. Lol. Idk if its worth collect a ps4 for a few games bt between that amd the 3 its certain games the emulators dont run that leave me like damnit... Nobody has money to buy every system all over again to replay individual games. Lol. I tell ppl all thw time 360 woulda been iSwitched over had I known about pc then, n kept all my systems to think iWas trading in some of these games n systems is beyond angering. Lmao.
It looks like they were trying to make the controls similar to nba live 2003. You could use the right stick to do everything and could actually post up
Elite 11 was dope. I had the demo on my fat ps3. I don't remember how the actual basketball played but the control you had with layups and shots etc felt like an evolution of the dribble stick.
I don’t remember seeing ads for Elite 11 at all. Looks like this game had some promise, potential and could maybe compete with 2k11 which I definitely remember.
Ur statement is a big part of how 2k finessed da game... They paid eerbody possible to talk about n or be in the game (Biggest one Jordan) for the first time recently n did the unthinkable m doubled down w thw rivals from the era prior on multi covers. That nostalgia trip for ppl alone swpt over nations, they started adding hip hop spundtracks n the rest is history. Lol. 2k knew exactly wjat it was doing in many ways n its no coincidence live got blackballed n fell off soon after. Its like having big n little jokers in spades w 3 cards left n you need 2 of the 3 books... Welp you got that one n unfortunately for the opps, aint shit dats trumpin dose 2 moves. Lol. Checkmate. 2k sabotaged ea from the inside out n thats the part nobody talks about.
So this is why we've had the same madden game for the past decade plus...innovate & the the chance.
NBA ELITE failed because of 2K fanbois, influencers, bandwagoners... Now all we got is Gambling2K22..
I went to the community event in 2010 in Vancouver where they showcased Elite 11 to several people from OperationSports and I represented the NBA Live Series Center. I was the only one to give it a thumbs up because I knew it was the future. Boy was I wrong. People want the game to play for them.
NBA Elite 11 wasn't finished. No layup slider, no "shooting" fouls on jumpshots no matter what the slider is set at, only in-air collision fouls on layups and dunks. CPU steal and interception slider affects cpu controlled teammates on the users team. User freethrow slider affects cpu freethrow shooting, too. The CPU did not use the regular gather step, except it used the euro and spin gathers, but the normal gather was how you really get to the basket since creating room. It also never shot hook shots. I think I saw 1 in hundreds of hours. There were no banked layups due to the technology behind the aiming of the shot with the right stick. If they had released the game, then patched it's bugs and improved on it in the next years, we would probably have an amazing NBA EA game right now. I've played around 700 hours of Elite 11. Yes, I was able to get the T-pose bug to trigger once. What could have been...
They should’ve done the standard roster update and kept it as NBA Live 11 whilst spending a couple years on the gameplay overhaul and releasing when ready
NBA live 10 was an amazing game and adding classic teams and stuff would’ve been a nice update for a new game
EA panicked and f’d it up big time
I remember when this was supposed to come out the trailer for it was dope but then when it came out the glitches in this game was crazy I just want to have it for the collection. I was mad when it got canceled because I had high hopes to wanna play it I really enjoyed love 15,16,18,19 still play 19
7th, 8th and now 9th generation of game developers learned that to make a truly great game you cant do it in a year anymore especially if you're making a game from the ground up. A quality game in 2010 I'd say at minimum took 3 years, now a decade plus later it takes at minimum 5 years to make a quality game if you want to do anything different.
Great video as always love the classic basketball games. U should check out the 989 sports or Sony developed nba games
Glad nba wasnt dumb enough to give ea exclusive rights
Great video. We played Live 10 until they shut the servers down in 12 or 13. There was still a packed lobby online full of demons who refused to buy 2k and I was one of them. Live 10 was the best ever imo. ❤️
Something funny is how NBA Live got a much better UI,scoreboard,presentation,career and pretty much everything beside Gameplay and Graphic than NBA2K
Rainbow Six Siege is one of the best examples of devs being allowed to take a risk, and then supported, not thrown away when it fails.
Rainbow Six Siege was a mess when it first released. It's player count when up, and then steeply down. It was buggy and had many rough spots that turned gamers away, and rightfully so.
Yet Ubisoft stuck with the game and the developers, and it became one of the most popular first-person shooters that is critically acclaimed, and many of the features in the game, such as how dynamic maps are with their structural damage, have yet to be replicated with the same quality. You can say what you want about it nowadays, but at its peak, it was head and shoulders the best FPS available, with a rewarding skill gap and many elements that made each round different. Had EA been in charge, the developers probably would've been pulled off to work on other games, and Rainbow Six Siege would be known as the NBA Elite 11 of first-person shooters.
And sports games are different to normal video games. Because people are controlling real - life characters in their virtual consoles. The fact sports games in general has been spiralling down in terms of quality, shows that major innovation and thinking has to be done.
This was a great video! You were dropping philosophical quotes that all of us truly need to start incorporating in our daily lives…
If anybody has a passion for something and it’s what they truly want to do with their life, they will be willing to endure the growth and the pains that come with it… If you take the safe route to avoid failure, you have already failed 👀👀🔥🔥🔥🔥
Perfectly Perfectly Perfectly written. You can tell he's quite educated to be able to fuse very strong philosophical quotes in a NBA oriented subject video. That's "one" of the keys of happiness and success. Find what you are truly passionate about and something you truly want to do with your life. "truly". You'll never work a day in your life and all the pain and obstacles that come along will be like getting a centimeter scratch on your skin (paraphrasing)
at least elite 11 wasn't out of control with the micro transactions. Unlike 2k18.
Can you imagine how dope top tier players would be in this game???
So much potential for competitive play.
madden super bowl halftime show boutta be island boys and yeat
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Ea needs to lose more often
That Jesus pose video that went viral when this game came out had me in stitches.
*i had it pre-ordered and was MAD AF when they canceled it. should've just released it exclusively online for 20 bucks instead of junking it. Live 19 made up for it though...it has roughly the same stick functions and dribble mechanics.*
Therapist: "T-posing Shaq isnt real, he cant hurt you"
T-posing Shaq: 1:07
That’s Andrew Bynum
I don't remember seeing ads for NBa Elite 11 and this is a good video from SoftDrinkTV
I could of sworn I've seen this on PS3 before at a store?
My Jesus Bynum video is legendary LMAO my video killed a whole franchise that I grew up playing that's crazy
Hay i liked the video. Back then ea sports was a good game company, now they only care about 1 thing, MONEY! ITS A DAMN SHAME THAT THERE ARE NO GOOD SPORTS GAMES anymore! ITS 1 of the reasons i dont play sports games anymore!
I feel the same way, I liked when NHL used to be amazing, now they only care about one thing, the money hut, it’s Dame shame that there are no good sports games made by EA anymore. 1 of the reasons I don’t play NHL games anymore, due to it’s messing lot of features, game modes from NHL 14 and older games including NHL 2k games and more, gameplay is still on animation based rather than physics, poor balance, tons of bugs and glitches I have ever seen on the sixth gen or seventh gen console, and lack of competition, NHL is the only company made by EA, it sad.
@@jaheimmoultrie7584 wow i feel your pain. I gave up on all sports games years ago. If im gonna burn $60 bucks for a game it needs to be worth my time and money not the wash, rinse & repeat from last year. Far as ea is concerned they died years ago.
Wake up Babe, new Soft Drink NBA video
By the 2008 release of both titles, 2k was already the #1 rated basketball videogame. And from there they just began steamrolling nba live from that point on.
2k been the same game the last 5 years bro
Mike Wang took his talent to South Beach! 😅
This game was stuff of legend back in school for me and the mates🤣🤣 We all swore it was a myth
Oh my Cow, Its like EA SKATE control scheme which was a massive hit'. I wish this would have been released!
Love your videos. Always worth the watch.
people selling the game for that much when its free on PC on ps3 emulator LOL
I remember this game I had it on my first iPod and it never messed up for me I use to love it those was the times
Not as bad as I thought the game was gonna look at all. NBA Elite 11 still is nowhere near the level of how legendary and great NBA 2K11 is.
It's like the distance between earth and the oort cloud.....😅
NBA Live hasn’t aged well in general, those ps2 era games don’t play as well as we remember.
I want to see NBA Live come back because I'm sick of the current NBA 2k.
I asked for this for Christmas because I loved Live but luckily my mom got me 2k11 instead
A video talking about the worst NBA video game, but then makes no mentions of Bill Laimbeer’s Combat Basketball feels like false advertising.
I picked this game up at a garage sale for 3 bucks a couple of months ago in real good condition. It's just sitting in my Xbox 360 collection. After watching this I'm not sure how much longer it will just sit.
Nice video as always. Oh yea, 4 time champ in this.
This Game Is Honestly Fun Not Perfect but still a lot of fun, once u get a feel for the controls it’s a lot of fun. EA added a lot to the game and the first thing I noticed is that there is absolutely NO Canned Animation and like u said we have total control over everything, dribbling, jumpers, dunks, layups.
Fun fact: Waka Flocka has an album called Durflocka rant 1, and the cover is based off elite 11's cover.
2k22 should be brought up
What is the song on the “Development” section?
You've made me look at Elite differently now. I'm gonna have to go back and play around in the demo I have on my PS3.
I remember the build up to this game and I even remember playing the demo and tbh I did not like the controls. I hate shooting with the sticks. I don’t think it’s something I could ever get on board with.
You can change the controls. Lol. Replay it, ignore the bugs(every game still to now has em) n see what yu think. N its 10 years later so you can see kust how ahead n innovative games or now or not. Lol. We need more ppl w first hand perspective cuz the shift is happening. Trust me. A dark new day is coming in tech. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
They didn’t release Elite 11 but they thought Live 14 was good enough to release 😂
I have a season going in Elite right now. It’s better than Live 10. The bad publicity from that one glitch in a demo was way overblown.
Crazy one of the most popular glitch moves in nba 2k22 was in this game all 2K cheesers will recognize at 7:12
I remember trying out the demo, and I thought it was awesome. Tough and alot to learn, but fun.
People can judge me on this, but honestly I always have this itch to go and play a game that is considered that, as I might not know if I actually enjoy it or not. I watch a lot of reviews on games to make sure I’m not gonna be scammed if I were to buy something, but in some games’ case I can’t help, but wanna experience them myself. This is like the second video where I saw someone say the game actually was on a good path(the first was a video about Infinite Warfare). So I feel calm when I see people who are like me, who give games a try despite the bad reception
Thank God for 2K, because if EA had exclusive rights to the NBA, make no mistake, this game would still have been released, glitches be damned
Great analysis I agree, I wanted to play this on PC because it's all about time.
I think EA are missing an opportunity by not making NBA live again, I love the 2k games but they really need some competition, If they just make a decent nba game, I think it’ll sell well as a lot of people are getting a fed up with 2k, and are ready for an alternative option.
It’d just be nice to have to have two NBA games each year too.
They just have to make sure that it’s a good game.
It was NBA2K5 and the entire 2k5 Games series that changed every sport's games.
2K5 Sport games was at that time $20 Dollars, and that's when the shift changed.
NBA live 19 is actually good good
This game didn't release? Because a friend of mine has a copy for PS3.
A few copies got to stores but the game wasn’t supposed to release no
How did you actually get the game to review it?
If you the files , can you share it with us so that we can experience it ourselves?
Seems like 2K pretty much used these controls. Lol
Yup bro they even adding the rim hang this year lol
Never got to experience this game on console but I will say the mobile version back in the day held it down for me. Probably why I never knew it was a bad game since it was actually pretty decent as a mobile game. I used to be going crazy with Pau Gasol for some reason lol
Nba Live 10 was good, how u go from that to this?
Right.
The controls and gameplay were dope I was so ready for elite to come out to compete with 2k11 and Jordan would've have been in gaming heaven for basketball
Elite came up with the controls we have today. Things can take irrational turns as people were getting tired of EA and took the opportunity to praise 2k and destroy Live. Funny enough I left 2k to play the last Live and it was tons of fun. Too bad that ended too
Fun Fact: NBA Live is still not dead as there is still a mobile version which gets updates every week or month. And it's actually pretty fun.
1:44 i own a copy of the game
i might make it public