Last vid before the 2XKO Alpha Lab 😶🌫 I've wanted to do something to wrap up old old BB stuff for a while, so I hope you learned something or had a little nostalgia for this game. (also pls like and subscribe)
pls do vids on bbcs and bbcp sometime in the near future. always good to watch and listen in videos about older fgs that touch upon what the meta was like from someone who actually experienced it while also viewing it from the lens of as well as taking into consideration modern fgs today and their "design philosophies". >blazblue considered an "old fg" hey wait a minute... 👴
legit warning, if it requires vanguard anticheat, it may brick windows 11; this is a relatively old issue and may have been fixed, but riot chose to publically ignore it and pretend it wasn't their fault when it was happening.
"Once you play this game for a couple of days youll break these easily." Played for 10 years. Won multiple small tournaments. Placed top 16 at CEO 2014. Still get purple thrown by ragna, teruumi, izayoi and tager players all the time.
@@coreydopson2030 nah, you do push-ups of shame for purple throws, not normal throws. Normal throws and TRM are fair game. Purple Throws deserve some push-ups. And you've gotta admit, getting jacked over that is a nice bonus at least. Maybe you're free, but at least you can throw that mofo IRL
@nemamiah7832 thats why i dropped Tager/Bullet when CF dropped and became a degen Kokonoe/Arakune player. Cant throw me if you never get a turn And the irony of playing grapplers and being free to grabs myself isnt lost on me.
What's even funnier about that dustloop page for calamity trigger tager, is that on the "started guide" section, instead of the usual important moves and tips they tend to have for most other games, is two videos of tager matches. One is against 13. You can kinda guess how both of them go LOL
I was just excited for a new fighting game franchise. A lot of what I said about Strive also applied to BB because people complained endlessly about this game at start and how Arcsys was a trash company that should just make nothing but Guilty Gear AC on repeat because this was a broken game for babies
@@HellecticMojo I love how a game that was supposed to be a better entry level game that people shamed for being to easy ended up as a series regarded as being hard as hell
@@oui7171 to be fair, that's after central fiction. Arcsys games tend to follow the trajectory of becoming a convoluted game with arbitrary character specific rules around the 3rd or 4th release of the game because their design processes are almost always purely additive. They showed remarkable restraint with Strive, but still ended up with elements of that with the wild assaults.
Fun Hakumen interaction that LK forgot to include, whenever Hakumen cuts a projectile in CT, it puts *him* into the game’s hit stop animation for every hit of the projectile. In most cases it doesn’t matter too much, but for a couple characters it had some interesting interactions. The funny one - both of Noel’s supers in this game were completely projectile based, so if they were done in neutral, Hakumen could clear the whole super with a single C button, all while being stuck in the frame he interacted with the super. The matchup defining one - Arakune’s bugs in CT are different than in the rest of the series. In particular, the D bug comes from the top of the screen and follows a parabolic arc. It’s also a negative edge projectile with infinite hits. If Hakumen was unlucky enough to press a C button while cursed, he could spend full seconds in hit stop while the Arakune player was free to do whatever they wanted. Calamity Trigger was truly one of the games of all time
OG BlazBlue was some of the first exposure I had in person with severely busted matchups. We had a grappler main friend who refused to ever touch BB again after experiencing Arakune vs Tager 😂 infinite blockstun for as long as curse meter was up while being able to curse on block and then having a ridiculous run away game where Tager could never catch him from a life deficit really broke that man.
BBCT was my first fighting game. Its so crazy to me how people talk about Blazblue like its OG now, especially in contrast to something like Strive. People saying things like "Ugh, what if they Striveified Blazblue?" kinda blows my brain because BB was the equivalent of "Striveification" back in the day and BB got super shit on for many versions by both GGAC and Capcom players, even when it got solid like in BBCSE.
People who complain about the "Striveification" of games should be mad at Street Fighter Alpha; after all, that game simplified the mechanics of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
Bro I was playing a lot of GG when BBCT came out. However, neither me nor any of my friends owned a console where it was available (we played #R on PC). So BB was just our dream game, a (then) "next gen GG" of sorts. None of us were complaining about it, we just thought it looked amazing and wanted to play it really bad. Then when BBCT released for PC everyone else was already playing BBCS. So we got really really happy when the arcade version of BBCS leaked and we could play it on PC. But with no online, it was mainly combo-labbing unfortunately. (I'm not discrediting what you said, just sharing a different experience)
I still remember for a long time, one of the top comments on the Xrd reveal trailer was something like "Yay new Guilty Gear. Now I can stop pretending to like Blazblue." The GG fanbase crapped on BB for a LONG time in the early days, lol.
Quick note about arakune LK didn't mention. You get the curse on block and had the various clouds with hitstun. Part of what made it so easy to curse and hard to deal with his neutral.
This game was almost a kusoge game. Ragna’s jesus kick and launch Strive Sol level of conversion almost made him competitive with the high tiers. Same deal with Jin’s weird frame trap nonsense. This was a horribly balanced game but a damn fun first attempt. I’m glad it got iterated and became what it is today.
Calamity Trigger is one of the videogames of all time. It was the first fighting game I started with, and it made me into a character loyalist... I hate it here. Bang in CT was... a character that existed in the videogame. He had very limited combo routing, due to 6C being so ass buns that it whiffed on half the cast, only worked on Litchi, Arakune, and Nu DURING HITSTUN, and on Ragna, Tager, and Hakumen normally. 5B > 6C did not combo at all. 6C > jump cancel j.D was REQUIRED on Litchi, Arakune and Nu. His BnB was 5A > 5B > 2B > 2C > 6D > jc623B, because his 6D wasn't special cancellable, so you had to do a jump cancel cancel to combo off of it. He got minuscule reward off of grab because he could only do j.623B to get a wallbounce off of. His defense was actually kinda garbage due to his drives being abysmally slow, and his only (not really, but we'll get to it) reversal was a Ranbu super in Daifukna. Did no damage due to said abysmal combo routing. Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan was his single best tool. His dashes had strike invuln, and he could actually do fun routes, but if he bursted, he loses access to barrier, WHICH MEANS YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO BLOCK IN FRKZ. Makes for a very hilarious timer scam tool, though. And his airthrow... Imagine Mitsuru's Airthrow from P4AU... except bad. It just sent your opponent upward. Actual. Pain. Also, his astral had a minimum height restriction of "Top of Normal Jump Height" or higher, if anyone cared. Funniest part about all of this is the fact that despite being bottom 3, Bang had an even matchup against Nu. He was built to destroy murakumo units. Calamity Trigger is not a game. It's an experience. ...I should've been an Arakune player, instead...
It was also one of my first ever FGs, I just loved mashing with my buddies and enjoying the spectacle. Good to know that Bang was objectively garbage, I always wondered as a kid why his combos were so much harder :O
Just wanna add some fun facts as someone who played a lot of BBCT: On top of the top 4 being SSS tier, the matchup spread was extremely fucked even among those characters Arakune dominated every character beneath him, but he just lost to v-13 and Rachel for free as he had no (good) answers to zoning, so he was basically a gatekeeper Re: Carl, there were 3 characters who could escape the clap loop. Most notably, Rachel could break the throw and wind out, leaving Carl completely SoL, 8-2 Rachel for sure. Hakumen can get out with his air parry and Ragna can get out with DP RC, but Hakumen and Ragna both suck in this version so Carl can actually fight them pretty decently as is. v-13 and Rachel were the most stable but notably went even with Taokaka and Jin, who were probably the closest to viable out of the “mortal” characters. Speaking of v-13, LK neglected to mention a fun fact about bursting - Gold Burst caused Guard Crush that allowed for a free combo, so she could do a +80 super, run up and burst as a checkmate situation. LK mentioned the 3+A+B+C but there was actually also the dreaded 9A+B+C. Air FD removed *10* frames of blockstun so on top of autoteching throws, you could basically always become instantly air actionable. Defense was EXTREMELY strong in a game that already favored zoners. It’s genuinely a miracle that BB survived BBCT, that game was a mess.
Tier list looked something like this around the time CS came out S- Rachel, v-13, Arakune, Carl A- Jin, Taokaka B- Litchi C- Noel, Bang, Ragna 💀- Hakumen, Tager
CT was the first fighting game I tried to learn competitively. I played Taokaka, thought I had it all figured out. Then I went to a local and got demolished by a Nu and Rachel. Interesting times.
Brother I remember trying to lab with Hazama in either CS or CP. I said he’s trash because no one will bother learning his drive if there’s simpler characters. I proceeded to get 9-0’d by a Hazama main online
The group I played this game with had like 3 Accent Core Potemkin players and they were convinced Tager was top 1 from launch. Me, an honest hard working nu player... I been fueled by a hatred for grapplers from day one
Sees Carl get called out > My mind: "YOU WANNA LEARN HOW TO DO AN INFINITE?" Great video LK, I remember seeing this and pre-order importing it from the US because EU didn't launch it for nearly a full year, and when they did announce an EU launch date, CS had already been announced. I remember just hearing the roaring guitars, the speed of the game, which is slow by todays standards but back in 09 this was blistering speed for a fighting game during the FG revival. There were so many tournaments, and CT was one of the 2 games at the heart and soul of that revival, with the other being Vanilla SF4 as games like Tekken only had a small competitive community and that didn't start taking off until Tekken 6's later years, and T7 sent it to the second most competitive game years later. GGXrd didn't exist, Melty blood was niche as hell, so while CT was jank as hell, it's an incredibly important part of the FG revival and shows that while CF is years old now, it's still the last great "old-school" anime fighter, but it started from CT. Thanks for jogging my memory on this LK, I'm gonna boot it up and do 5K meterless Nu combos again, and if I can remember it, one-combo a 10K health Ragna with no burst.
Man BB was so much fun. Was it BS? Absolutely, but it wouldn’t be BB without it. Still my favorite fighting game to this day and the game that made helped me become such a good player at Strive.
@@videopostrrr With BB no matter how much I labbed and practiced, I never win unless I am shaking the stick like I'm a British nanny and just sliding my fingers across buttons like my hands are covered in spiders.
Calamity trigger was the first and only one of these I ever sunk my teeth into. After I found some people to play, oh boy was that a wakeup call lol talk about learning you aren’t good at a game the hard way
I hardly ever lose in an offline setting or when I party up with friends online, they all think I’m a god cause I beat them so easily and understand their gameplan 100x better than them in so many fighting games. But I know in my heart if I go to ranked I’ll get my head stomped in and get get humbled 😂
I still miss Blazblue, as effed up as it was. I remember watching Evo 2011 and that top 8 with Makoto and Litchi, what a screwed up game. Such a blast.
Even as a UMVC3 fiend, I always looked at Blazblue as the true bastion of degenerate filth. No amount of Vergil X-factor 3 comebacks, Magneto zoning, or Zero incoming mixups could change my mind on this. Good to see that it's diehard players also thought that way too lol. What an absolutely disgusting game hahaha!
I loved BB CT so much. But yeah, I still have nightmares of 13 in tourneys...I played bang which was considered pretty low at the time, but really high on my heart 💜
I totally forgot Rachel had that Pumpkin, and I mained her in CT, lol. Yeah, she was so busted...fun, but busted! 😅 Also, Burst was so dumb. No reason to ever do it outside of low health!
i only played this game against the computer but it's so fun to me still and the story had a lot of fun moments while going through it even though it was really convoluted and silly
Rachel also had insane damage in calamity trigger because her lightning super stacked damage with the spires, so if you had your opponent sitting on all three spires you would do almost an entire healthbar worth of damage with one super. For newer players it was balanced because her wind ability made her pretty tricky to learn, but at higher levels she was crazy broken. She was super fun though! (I stopped playing shortly after the second game came out because I didnt want to put in the time to learn the new movesets and combos lol)
The funny part about Hakumen is that his 6B is actually a low in this game, making it so that if you don't have any stars you can't open your opponent from downbacking.
No mention of guard libra. One of the reasons Rachel was SO good was that she could practically break your guard from any move because her block strings were insane,. Rachel had basically guaranteed high damage off block.
I miss Haku-men. No fighting game character has been as badass as he was. Him and Baiken were the first fighting game characters I ever mained. It is a crime what they're going through. Spark was my inspiration to start playing fighting games.(His matches versus KizzieKay are GOATed) His near impregnable defense was so fun to watch; even the commentators loved seeing him block all the crazy crap that BB had. I've always tried to train to perform like that; which is why my defense is far better than my offense. haha I miss that guy.
I love the Blazblue series, it’s so so much deeper than most fighting games. That being said, you definitely need to play the right ones. Very few fighting games changes so drastically between releases, but this one totally does. Noel Vermillion is my girl in every one! She’s so fun
I think this was the last Arcsys game with Shadow and Gold characters, completely changed or overpowered versions of characters. I recall all my friends rolling over laughing trying to escape a RUNNING Tager.
I love Calamity Trigger! It was a creative fighters' dream. I used Bang Shishigami and I loved the English dub which unfortunately they never brought back. This game had it all! Some people used broken techniques but trust me, if you had skills and knowledge of your character you'll have a great time and win. I give that game a 10 out of 10.
I still honestly prefer the way burst operated in CT to the stocks from later games. One round, one burst, take double damage after, just feels simple and elegant. Could do without losing all the barrier block properties.
Thanks for making fighting game history videos. These are mad entertaining, especially when you have high level knowledge about them. Days without Margaret video : 1
Going from GGXX into this was an experience. The game was a blast because no one was playing Nu or Arakune. We had one guy constantly offensive Barrier and then complain when he lost. Good times. Also Bang theme song was top tier. Too bad our only Bang player struggled to ever get there.
BBCT was my first fighting game that I really got into and I loved it but goddamn it was frustrating sometimes. Something LK didn’t directly talk about is how the extra damage taken after burst thing works when fighting Arakune. Arakune is so gross when he lands curse that it’s often a borderline autowin, or at least incredibly slanted in his favor. This made people burst as soon as they got cursed to give themselves one more chance at avoiding curse and winning. Then you accidentally touch a cloud or whatever and now you’re in bug hell AND take 50% extra damage. Arakune man 😅
But dude, you could combo Inferno Divider into Inferno Divider! It was all worth it! And Noel 6C->BC loops were mad funny, ngl. The main reason I switched to Kagura in BBCPE. Seriously, though, BBCT was such a damn kusoge, I don't know why I had put so many hours of my life into that. Mad fun.
I loved this game when it came out. Was my first anime fighter, and it looked amazing (still does IMO) Super unique characters, and some stuff seemed pretty broken, but it all got flipped around every so often as folks learned more tech
As hard as Tager had it against everyone, as a Bang player, I often felt like I was his most unfair matchup back then. If FRKZ ever turned on there was basically nothing Tager could do about it and his giant-ass body made it easy to loop in the corner vs him. I did it all the time, but it felt grimey every time.
Honestly I still love CT. It was just so bad and janky but it had soul. Every character felt like they tried hard to make them cool and good even if they failed a bit with a couple. It just felt good, even when you were playing a bad character they still were fun. I spent hundreds of hours grinding it out with Tager and man did that boy have gimmicks. You should have mentioned how Tager can A grab Rachel and another Tager on round start because they're so fat lmao. Also I'm glad you mention Carl was the defacto character of CT. Dude was an absolute nightmare.
I'm still sad that BB dropped the ability to use some of the characters' defining moves with the right analog stick, which usually goes unused in the genre. It helped me get people into 2D fighters who didn't really care about them beforehand.
OG Hakumen is why I never picked any other characters frfr til Amane, Es and Hibiki And he could get full combo after his counter without using meter...
Even among kids that sucked at fighting games, Nu was OP. But Arakune and Rachel not so much. So this game was so much fun! Been playing Hakumen ever since.
CT was broken but so fun. As a Haukumen main, those ranked matches against the broken 4 were a pita 😂. CF is still my fave fighter, I hope Blazblue makes a comeback
As someone that started competing BB in Continuum shift I'm kind of glad but also feel like I missed something in my life, but also maybe I would have hated the shit out of the game.
Last vid before the 2XKO Alpha Lab 😶🌫
I've wanted to do something to wrap up old old BB stuff for a while, so I hope you learned something or had a little nostalgia for this game.
(also pls like and subscribe)
Give this man the *clap*
pls do vids on bbcs and bbcp sometime in the near future. always good to watch and listen in videos about older fgs that touch upon what the meta was like from someone who actually experienced it while also viewing it from the lens of as well as taking into consideration modern fgs today and their "design philosophies".
>blazblue considered an "old fg"
hey wait a minute... 👴
I need this video but for guilty gear rev. I feel like everyone forgot about this game now.
legit warning, if it requires vanguard anticheat, it may brick windows 11; this is a relatively old issue and may have been fixed, but riot chose to publically ignore it and pretend it wasn't their fault when it was happening.
You actually played in Strive for money...
"And this is what we call an aerial low. Good luck! :)"
SF2 E.Honda felt that
Warcrime characters be like...
That sounds really funny ngl
"Once you play this game for a couple of days youll break these easily."
Played for 10 years. Won multiple small tournaments. Placed top 16 at CEO 2014. Still get purple thrown by ragna, teruumi, izayoi and tager players all the time.
Do you do your push-ups of shame afterwards tho?
@nemamiah7832 i would be jacked if i did push ups everytime i fail to tech a throw. Im free to throws in every game.
@@coreydopson2030 nah, you do push-ups of shame for purple throws, not normal throws. Normal throws and TRM are fair game. Purple Throws deserve some push-ups.
And you've gotta admit, getting jacked over that is a nice bonus at least. Maybe you're free, but at least you can throw that mofo IRL
@nemamiah7832 thats why i dropped Tager/Bullet when CF dropped and became a degen Kokonoe/Arakune player. Cant throw me if you never get a turn
And the irony of playing grapplers and being free to grabs myself isnt lost on me.
LK: "Zoners are supposed to have really good mixup riiight??"
Venom mains: *sweating profusely"
. . .
What's even funnier about that dustloop page for calamity trigger tager, is that on the "started guide" section, instead of the usual important moves and tips they tend to have for most other games, is two videos of tager matches. One is against 13. You can kinda guess how both of them go LOL
*Overview*
“Tager is one of BlazBlue's most creative ideas: a grappler who pulls you towards him so he can lose the round faster.”
THIS IS NOT A CHARACTER OF HONOR
NO GOOD DESIGN CHOICES WERE MADE HERE
Yall some strong soldiers cause I wouldnt handle that much bs
'broken' stuff literally never bothers me in any competitive game and i partially attribute that to bbct being my first serious fighter
I was just excited for a new fighting game franchise.
A lot of what I said about Strive also applied to BB because people complained endlessly about this game at start and how Arcsys was a trash company that should just make nothing but Guilty Gear AC on repeat because this was a broken game for babies
The cycle repeats
@@HellecticMojo I love how a game that was supposed to be a better entry level game that people shamed for being to easy ended up as a series regarded as being hard as hell
@@oui7171 to be fair, that's after central fiction.
Arcsys games tend to follow the trajectory of becoming a convoluted game with arbitrary character specific rules around the 3rd or 4th release of the game because their design processes are almost always purely additive.
They showed remarkable restraint with Strive, but still ended up with elements of that with the wild assaults.
I love blazblue purely because of two things. The air combos are gas, and it's all about "whoever gets their bullshit going first wins"
Also i love how BlazBlue story is showing the most well written moment in history then make a boob joke
@@MegafanX123 those gag reels were some of the funniest shit ever. Just completely took the piss out of the entire game.
@@mostverticalproductions4808the English dub is really good too, one of the reasons I like the story so much
Fun Hakumen interaction that LK forgot to include, whenever Hakumen cuts a projectile in CT, it puts *him* into the game’s hit stop animation for every hit of the projectile. In most cases it doesn’t matter too much, but for a couple characters it had some interesting interactions.
The funny one - both of Noel’s supers in this game were completely projectile based, so if they were done in neutral, Hakumen could clear the whole super with a single C button, all while being stuck in the frame he interacted with the super.
The matchup defining one - Arakune’s bugs in CT are different than in the rest of the series. In particular, the D bug comes from the top of the screen and follows a parabolic arc. It’s also a negative edge projectile with infinite hits. If Hakumen was unlucky enough to press a C button while cursed, he could spend full seconds in hit stop while the Arakune player was free to do whatever they wanted.
Calamity Trigger was truly one of the games of all time
wait, isn't this just azraels growler now?
OG BlazBlue was some of the first exposure I had in person with severely busted matchups. We had a grappler main friend who refused to ever touch BB again after experiencing Arakune vs Tager 😂 infinite blockstun for as long as curse meter was up while being able to curse on block and then having a ridiculous run away game where Tager could never catch him from a life deficit really broke that man.
BBCT was my first fighting game. Its so crazy to me how people talk about Blazblue like its OG now, especially in contrast to something like Strive. People saying things like "Ugh, what if they Striveified Blazblue?" kinda blows my brain because BB was the equivalent of "Striveification" back in the day and BB got super shit on for many versions by both GGAC and Capcom players, even when it got solid like in BBCSE.
People who complain about the "Striveification" of games should be mad at Street Fighter Alpha; after all, that game simplified the mechanics of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
Bro I was playing a lot of GG when BBCT came out. However, neither me nor any of my friends owned a console where it was available (we played #R on PC). So BB was just our dream game, a (then) "next gen GG" of sorts. None of us were complaining about it, we just thought it looked amazing and wanted to play it really bad. Then when BBCT released for PC everyone else was already playing BBCS. So we got really really happy when the arcade version of BBCS leaked and we could play it on PC. But with no online, it was mainly combo-labbing unfortunately.
(I'm not discrediting what you said, just sharing a different experience)
BlazBabies rise up. It's funny when people revisit the game now they're like "Damn this game is hard af"
And I'm like "YEAH....I KNOW."
BBCT was my first fighting game also. It pains me that we’ll likely never see another game like BB again, shit is goated
I still remember for a long time, one of the top comments on the Xrd reveal trailer was something like "Yay new Guilty Gear. Now I can stop pretending to like Blazblue." The GG fanbase crapped on BB for a LONG time in the early days, lol.
Quick note about arakune LK didn't mention. You get the curse on block and had the various clouds with hitstun. Part of what made it so easy to curse and hard to deal with his neutral.
This game was almost a kusoge game.
Ragna’s jesus kick and launch Strive Sol level of conversion almost made him competitive with the high tiers.
Same deal with Jin’s weird frame trap nonsense.
This was a horribly balanced game but a damn fun first attempt. I’m glad it got iterated and became what it is today.
"nu is bullshit" me, a rachel main
Wtf you play CF??
Nu and Arakune were so bad, I would feel relief from seeing Rachel on matchmaking.
Calamity Trigger is one of the videogames of all time. It was the first fighting game I started with, and it made me into a character loyalist... I hate it here.
Bang in CT was... a character that existed in the videogame. He had very limited combo routing, due to 6C being so ass buns that it whiffed on half the cast, only worked on Litchi, Arakune, and Nu DURING HITSTUN, and on Ragna, Tager, and Hakumen normally.
5B > 6C did not combo at all.
6C > jump cancel j.D was REQUIRED on Litchi, Arakune and Nu.
His BnB was 5A > 5B > 2B > 2C > 6D > jc623B, because his 6D wasn't special cancellable, so you had to do a jump cancel cancel to combo off of it.
He got minuscule reward off of grab because he could only do j.623B to get a wallbounce off of.
His defense was actually kinda garbage due to his drives being abysmally slow, and his only (not really, but we'll get to it) reversal was a Ranbu super in Daifukna.
Did no damage due to said abysmal combo routing.
Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan was his single best tool. His dashes had strike invuln, and he could actually do fun routes, but if he bursted, he loses access to barrier, WHICH MEANS YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO BLOCK IN FRKZ. Makes for a very hilarious timer scam tool, though.
And his airthrow... Imagine Mitsuru's Airthrow from P4AU... except bad. It just sent your opponent upward. Actual. Pain.
Also, his astral had a minimum height restriction of "Top of Normal Jump Height" or higher, if anyone cared.
Funniest part about all of this is the fact that despite being bottom 3, Bang had an even matchup against Nu. He was built to destroy murakumo units. Calamity Trigger is not a game. It's an experience. ...I should've been an Arakune player, instead...
It was also one of my first ever FGs, I just loved mashing with my buddies and enjoying the spectacle. Good to know that Bang was objectively garbage, I always wondered as a kid why his combos were so much harder :O
9:10 "Well for starters he's a grappler..."
Bold move to call out the Glue Eater Collective.
when Calamity Trigger came out my friend played Nu-13 and I played Hakumen and I was like this is fucked up...
Just wanna add some fun facts as someone who played a lot of BBCT:
On top of the top 4 being SSS tier, the matchup spread was extremely fucked even among those characters
Arakune dominated every character beneath him, but he just lost to v-13 and Rachel for free as he had no (good) answers to zoning, so he was basically a gatekeeper
Re: Carl, there were 3 characters who could escape the clap loop. Most notably, Rachel could break the throw and wind out, leaving Carl completely SoL, 8-2 Rachel for sure. Hakumen can get out with his air parry and Ragna can get out with DP RC, but Hakumen and Ragna both suck in this version so Carl can actually fight them pretty decently as is.
v-13 and Rachel were the most stable but notably went even with Taokaka and Jin, who were probably the closest to viable out of the “mortal” characters.
Speaking of v-13, LK neglected to mention a fun fact about bursting - Gold Burst caused Guard Crush that allowed for a free combo, so she could do a +80 super, run up and burst as a checkmate situation.
LK mentioned the 3+A+B+C but there was actually also the dreaded 9A+B+C. Air FD removed *10* frames of blockstun so on top of autoteching throws, you could basically always become instantly air actionable. Defense was EXTREMELY strong in a game that already favored zoners. It’s genuinely a miracle that BB survived BBCT, that game was a mess.
Tier list looked something like this around the time CS came out
S- Rachel, v-13, Arakune, Carl
A- Jin, Taokaka
B- Litchi
C- Noel, Bang, Ragna
💀- Hakumen, Tager
CT was the first fighting game I tried to learn competitively. I played Taokaka, thought I had it all figured out.
Then I went to a local and got demolished by a Nu and Rachel.
Interesting times.
Brother I remember trying to lab with Hazama in either CS or CP. I said he’s trash because no one will bother learning his drive if there’s simpler characters. I proceeded to get 9-0’d by a Hazama main online
The group I played this game with had like 3 Accent Core Potemkin players and they were convinced Tager was top 1 from launch. Me, an honest hard working nu player... I been fueled by a hatred for grapplers from day one
Tager was in the last BB finals too
Sajam called, he wants his video title back
“RUclips titles and thumbnail assets we used to steal for money.”
rachel in CT is what introduced me to setplay rushdown type of characters which I pretty much exclusively play in every game now
Sees Carl get called out > My mind: "YOU WANNA LEARN HOW TO DO AN INFINITE?"
Great video LK, I remember seeing this and pre-order importing it from the US because EU didn't launch it for nearly a full year, and when they did announce an EU launch date, CS had already been announced.
I remember just hearing the roaring guitars, the speed of the game, which is slow by todays standards but back in 09 this was blistering speed for a fighting game during the FG revival. There were so many tournaments, and CT was one of the 2 games at the heart and soul of that revival, with the other being Vanilla SF4 as games like Tekken only had a small competitive community and that didn't start taking off until Tekken 6's later years, and T7 sent it to the second most competitive game years later. GGXrd didn't exist, Melty blood was niche as hell, so while CT was jank as hell, it's an incredibly important part of the FG revival and shows that while CF is years old now, it's still the last great "old-school" anime fighter, but it started from CT.
Thanks for jogging my memory on this LK, I'm gonna boot it up and do 5K meterless Nu combos again, and if I can remember it, one-combo a 10K health Ragna with no burst.
I love how the noel combos looked in CT, the 6C[1] throw whiff just looked so cool
Man BB was so much fun. Was it BS? Absolutely, but it wouldn’t be BB without it. Still my favorite fighting game to this day and the game that made helped me become such a good player at Strive.
BlazBlue is where my decades of intermittent spastic mashing blossomed into my dedicated full time strategy.
hahah, that is the same for me, yes it was jin becasue im a kyle at heart but i figured out fighting games finally with blazblue
@@videopostrrr With BB no matter how much I labbed and practiced, I never win unless I am shaking the stick like I'm a British nanny and just sliding my fingers across buttons like my hands are covered in spiders.
Have you played centralfiction?
@@standaman4578 Yes, CF is the only BB I have. I love it, but I'm terrible at it.
@@BeenNoticing who would you say is the best masher character
Calamity trigger was the first and only one of these I ever sunk my teeth into. After I found some people to play, oh boy was that a wakeup call lol talk about learning you aren’t good at a game the hard way
I hardly ever lose in an offline setting or when I party up with friends online, they all think I’m a god cause I beat them so easily and understand their gameplan 100x better than them in so many fighting games. But I know in my heart if I go to ranked I’ll get my head stomped in and get get humbled 😂
I still miss Blazblue, as effed up as it was. I remember watching Evo 2011 and that top 8 with Makoto and Litchi, what a screwed up game. Such a blast.
Commenting for the algorithm. BBCT was my first fighting game, wild to see it in retrospect. Keep it up LK!
bro started the intro with "conciliation" playing, Its an instant like that track is amazing
Kudos to you for fighting against the urge to call this video "BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger is Broken."
Even as a UMVC3 fiend, I always looked at Blazblue as the true bastion of degenerate filth. No amount of Vergil X-factor 3 comebacks, Magneto zoning, or Zero incoming mixups could change my mind on this. Good to see that it's diehard players also thought that way too lol. What an absolutely disgusting game hahaha!
"true bastion of degenerate filth", blew up laughing when I read this! 😂
I mean that's why I love blazblue. Though I was more a cf guy
this is the first game of a franchise dummy
Just a heads-up, this was a game where the resident counter character was considered low-tier, despite IB being absolutely busted.
Tager has gatlings! It's a shame that none of his a and b normals have enough hitstun to combo into each other
SF4 and Blazblue are the first fighting games I actually tried to take serious and I still love and play Calamity Trigger 😅
I loved BB CT so much.
But yeah, I still have nightmares of 13 in tourneys...I played bang which was considered pretty low at the time, but really high on my heart 💜
Im so glad you finally brought up the dark days of BB, we was really in the trenches in 2008, we played this and loved it...those were good times.
I totally forgot Rachel had that Pumpkin, and I mained her in CT, lol. Yeah, she was so busted...fun, but busted! 😅 Also, Burst was so dumb. No reason to ever do it outside of low health!
i only played this game against the computer but it's so fun to me still and the story had a lot of fun moments while going through it even though it was really convoluted and silly
Rachel also had insane damage in calamity trigger because her lightning super stacked damage with the spires, so if you had your opponent sitting on all three spires you would do almost an entire healthbar worth of damage with one super. For newer players it was balanced because her wind ability made her pretty tricky to learn, but at higher levels she was crazy broken. She was super fun though! (I stopped playing shortly after the second game came out because I didnt want to put in the time to learn the new movesets and combos lol)
The funny part about Hakumen is that his 6B is actually a low in this game, making it so that if you don't have any stars you can't open your opponent from downbacking.
No mention of guard libra. One of the reasons Rachel was SO good was that she could practically break your guard from any move because her block strings were insane,. Rachel had basically guaranteed high damage off block.
I miss Haku-men. No fighting game character has been as badass as he was. Him and Baiken were the first fighting game characters I ever mained. It is a crime what they're going through.
Spark was my inspiration to start playing fighting games.(His matches versus KizzieKay are GOATed) His near impregnable defense was so fun to watch; even the commentators loved seeing him block all the crazy crap that BB had. I've always tried to train to perform like that; which is why my defense is far better than my offense. haha I miss that guy.
BlazeBlue Calamity Trigger
A game that everything started, even though the jank is ridiculous still a place in people heart.
I still hope Arcsys finds a way to bring BB back after Strive has run its course
I love the Blazblue series, it’s so so much deeper than most fighting games. That being said, you definitely need to play the right ones. Very few fighting games changes so drastically between releases, but this one totally does. Noel Vermillion is my girl in every one! She’s so fun
I played Nu back in the Calamity Trigger days. Ran into LK at my first tournament and got stomped.
V 13 was my favorite character lol i bought this on us launch as a high schooler. So fun playing such a busted character
I think this was the last Arcsys game with Shadow and Gold characters, completely changed or overpowered versions of characters. I recall all my friends rolling over laughing trying to escape a RUNNING Tager.
“And this is an aerial low (good luck)” lmaoo
I love Calamity Trigger! It was a creative fighters' dream. I used Bang Shishigami and I loved the English dub which unfortunately they never brought back. This game had it all! Some people used broken techniques but trust me, if you had skills and knowledge of your character you'll have a great time and win. I give that game a 10 out of 10.
We had tao taunt loops for so damn long lmao we made it out the depths since then. Also as a lambda 11 main I feel attacked.
Sorry to see you have to play May. I'm happy to go back to seeing some klassic nostalgia.
Its always a good day when LK uploads Blazblue restrospectives 🙏
you know its a good day when LK releases a bb video
I still honestly prefer the way burst operated in CT to the stocks from later games. One round, one burst, take double damage after, just feels simple and elegant.
Could do without losing all the barrier block properties.
Thanks for making fighting game history videos. These are mad entertaining, especially when you have high level knowledge about them.
Days without Margaret video : 1
I miss blazblue so much
God I loved this game so much. Noel haida loops were so fun to land.
Real talk my Calamity Trigger Carl was unrivaled on GameFAQs (according to 12 year old me).
small complaint but there's a typo in the title!! (the i in fighting is capitalized)
Other then that looking forward to another classic LK vid!!
Going from GGXX into this was an experience. The game was a blast because no one was playing Nu or Arakune. We had one guy constantly offensive Barrier and then complain when he lost. Good times. Also Bang theme song was top tier. Too bad our only Bang player struggled to ever get there.
BBCT was my first fighting game that I really got into and I loved it but goddamn it was frustrating sometimes. Something LK didn’t directly talk about is how the extra damage taken after burst thing works when fighting Arakune. Arakune is so gross when he lands curse that it’s often a borderline autowin, or at least incredibly slanted in his favor. This made people burst as soon as they got cursed to give themselves one more chance at avoiding curse and winning. Then you accidentally touch a cloud or whatever and now you’re in bug hell AND take 50% extra damage. Arakune man 😅
I started my fighting game journey in 2017 with BBCF, seeing old busted Blazblue is always hilarious
"This character can do a backdash moving forward"
w h a t
And I play Blazblue casually, but that sentence alone made me do a second take
But dude, you could combo Inferno Divider into Inferno Divider! It was all worth it! And Noel 6C->BC loops were mad funny, ngl. The main reason I switched to Kagura in BBCPE. Seriously, though, BBCT was such a damn kusoge, I don't know why I had put so many hours of my life into that. Mad fun.
I loved this game when it came out. Was my first anime fighter, and it looked amazing (still does IMO)
Super unique characters, and some stuff seemed pretty broken, but it all got flipped around every so often as folks learned more tech
I remember burst being armored so you could RC to block on reaction lol.
Man I miss blazblue. I really hope they come out with another main line game. Cross tag was not it and it's been way too long since we had a new BB.
@cjlafleur7585 mori left a while back and said BBCF was the final installment even before leaving. He had a plan for the series and saw it through.
Damn I wish my gray was coming in as smoothly as yours. I have a bunch of random gray hairs in random places
As hard as Tager had it against everyone, as a Bang player, I often felt like I was his most unfair matchup back then. If FRKZ ever turned on there was basically nothing Tager could do about it and his giant-ass body made it easy to loop in the corner vs him. I did it all the time, but it felt grimey every time.
Very good video, would like to see more like it.
Honestly I still love CT. It was just so bad and janky but it had soul. Every character felt like they tried hard to make them cool and good even if they failed a bit with a couple. It just felt good, even when you were playing a bad character they still were fun. I spent hundreds of hours grinding it out with Tager and man did that boy have gimmicks. You should have mentioned how Tager can A grab Rachel and another Tager on round start because they're so fat lmao.
Also I'm glad you mention Carl was the defacto character of CT. Dude was an absolute nightmare.
calamity trigger is unironically my favourite BB game lmao. peak kusoge
"oh shit a Nu, I hate fighting Nu" -me, a Nu main since 2009, getting PTSD seeing Nu on CF
My first ever fighting game 😢
Started in CT, CPE was the end of my ride. 😆
I played them all and i still love them to this day. Only Guilty Gear rivals it for me.
I wish you made a video about your grand finals evo match with spark. I want to know what was on your mind before, during and after the match.
As a Ragna main, everyone else is broken 😭 (I actually love this franchise so much and wouldn’t change it for anything)
I'm still sad that BB dropped the ability to use some of the characters' defining moves with the right analog stick, which usually goes unused in the genre.
It helped me get people into 2D fighters who didn't really care about them beforehand.
To this Day I blame hazama for making me fall for this franchise (this shit is more addictive than drugs)
OG Hakumen is why I never picked any other characters frfr til Amane, Es and Hibiki
And he could get full combo after his counter without using meter...
that Evil Zone OST sheeeeeeesh
Bro this game is so fucking difficult, I love it.
Good ol calamity trigger. I'll never forget mashing on noel with my brother back in the day. Good times.
I demand more Blazblue content, more!
Played Rachel since CT and honestly the most fun and unique character I've ever played.
Shoutouts to the Evil Zone Soundtrack ❤
Love the content lk would love to see a gg version of this video
I miss playing Nine so much. I hope arcsys can get MoriP back and make another one :(
I remember my friend doing carl loops on me which gave me hatred to carl and i even played Nu and Arakune
Even among kids that sucked at fighting games, Nu was OP. But Arakune and Rachel not so much. So this game was so much fun! Been playing Hakumen ever since.
CT was broken but so fun. As a Haukumen main, those ranked matches against the broken 4 were a pita 😂. CF is still my fave fighter, I hope Blazblue makes a comeback
I saw a Hakumen clip at the start of the video. That's a sign of a based content creator.
Played hakumen for a while and once you got the hang of his gameplay is quite fun.
Hilarious title
Blazeblue is a very funny game
As someone that started competing BB in Continuum shift I'm kind of glad but also feel like I missed something in my life, but also maybe I would have hated the shit out of the game.
Never forget Real Soviet Damage.
loved blazblue, although I mained Tager....the struggle was real (but fun)
great vid, and wow this game is such coomer bait it's actually kinda hard to look at lol