What I learned is that it is better to build a song slowly and gradually and make riffs, motives that fits the song and the neighbouring riffs or motives, not claying multiple riffs that you came up with in different times, at different mindset etc.
Tyler! You're a godsend teacher! And imma say that every time in my head when i watch these types of videos. Finding your channel made my bond with music so strong that i can play out in my head tons of melodies i can write. Working hard on getting a new electric and amp. I gotta start playing again. Missing out on so much potential. Thank you! Sincerely!!! You're fucking awesome, bro'! :D
Been watching your videos for a few months now and I have become such a better guitarist than I was because of it. Big thanks to you and what you do! Keep it up man!
to be honest, i think the major notes sounded better, really gave it that 'Soul to squeeze' RHCP vibe, i dug it! it was more creative sounding than the minor tonality, imo. i feel like majority of players would've played the minor notes there, though. This was an awesome video!!!
I don't really understand it (the theory stuff; I'm getting there) but I love what you came up with. I haven't gotten to that part yet in your course (which is great, btw).
Yeah your exploration of the chords was actually counter productive since you actually had that B's quality correct in the first place... Your vape is in F# Dorian, not A major which is why that B chord is the 5th of your key and a major chord and why it sounds bad when you force it into being the minor 2 even though the progression does not start on or resolve to an A.
If the Key is F#, wouldnt be the 5th C#(and B the 4th)? I dont fully get what u wanted to say, were you talking about the 2nd Mode of the harmonic minor scale and thats why he raised the 3rd or am I completely wrong?
I was referring to Dorian as the second mode of the major scale. In this case, the related major scale is E, so we got E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#, E so when I referred to B as the 5 I suppose I meant in the context of E major. If you want to be super correct, when you're in dorian it would be the 4 and C# the 5 but the C# is still a minor triad while your 4 is a major chord. I don't bother to distinguish when looking at music, I just find the parent key then observe that it uses a chord other than the 1 as the tonic. I think it's unwise to treat a mode as though it's actually a different key altogether because then those numeral labels that everyone understands goes out the window and people would have to think about the scale pattern to know what chord qualities fit where ect, it's a lot easier to just call it E and say we're starting on F#m. So unless you're using a different scale entirely, like the harmonic minor scale, I'm going to look for the major key related to the mode and think of the song as being in that key. Then I don't have to memorize 7 different scale patterns, there's the one master pattern and you're just starting from a different part of the sequence. If you look at the chords being used, collect every unique note... so we got F#-A-C#, E-G#-B, B-D#-F# and A-C#-E, giving us; A, B, C#, D#, E, F# and G# - the only key which actually contains all of those notes is E. So looking at this as being in some other key, and borrowing a note from another scale or key or something doesn't make sense. It's not borrowing anything from anywhere, it's just a basic 4 chord progression in the key of E that is technically in the Dorian mode because it begins on the second scale degree, F#m, and that in turn is it's tonal center. Hope that clarifies.
Sorry, man, but you are the type of guy that makes guitarists hate theory. Who cares if the progression was Dorian or Aeolian or Ionian/Major? All he did was change a minor chord to a major because he liked the sound. How the music sounds is far more important than what you call it. By the way, your technical analysis of the song seems to be accurate. But again, who (besides you) really gives a shit?
Two years late, but I wanted to defend/agree with Evan here. I was actually going to post something similar if it wasn't already mentioned. Starting with an F#m chord doesn't mean your key is F#m. When I first listened to his little riff, the B power chord sounded like "the 5" to me, or the dominant, and the E sounded like the tonic. Even if people don't know the meaning of those terms, they can hear the resolving nature of the E chord. So when Tyler figured out that the B major sounded better, it's because he switched to a chord that was in the key of E. He can define the key however he wants and perceive the B major as non-diatonic (outside the key), but I would prefer that he just define the key as E. That, however, in no way has to limit where the song can go next. This is an example of the benefit of allowing some basic theory knowledge to be an enabler, not a limiter. I'm by no means an expert, but some basic knowledge does allow you to make those predictions. (I'm not saying that Tyler doesn't have that knowledge, [he does] but he just didn't mention having considered switching his perceived key in this particular example. Not a criticism.)
how do you think of all these ideas, of all the music oriented channels that i follow you definitely upload the most. personally I'd run out ideas really quickly
with this i struggle so so much when i hear that this one note somewhere just asks to be changed but i have absolutely no idea which note exactly and i simply cannot find it argh!
Hey Tyler, I really like your videos and I learned so much from you in the last months. I am really interested in what you are doing to make the tonalty come thru. I got what you were doing do make it sound minor-ish. I think its some decending lines and landing on the F# (A->G#->F# and so on), but what are you doing @8:00? you start your phrase at 13th fret of the A String(Bb which is a m2), I dont get why this sounds good when you are playing. Could you please do more videos about these topics, i would really love it or do I have to study music for that? :D Best greetings
Changing the tonality of that chord -as he says -modulates the key from F# minor. So how do you know what scale to use? Is it still in F#m but temporarily shifting out just for that one chord.. if so do you switch scales just for that one altered chord or do you see the whole song as being in a new key?
I know this is two years later, but... I perceive this loop as E major, not A major. So I would recommend using modes/scales from that key. (That will naturally include all four chords: F#m, E, Bmaj, A). I think this would simplify for someone playing along. (This in no way means you'd have to limit what you play, but it sounds like you're looking for the best-fitting framework.)
GuitarAnime he does paid guitar lessons/instruction online if you check the video description, but I don't know if he does anything other than that as well
Ziv Grinfeld kinda late but it’ll eventually come naturally if you just keep learning riffs from other musicians and if you haven’t already, take the time to learn at least CAGED and the minor pentatonic scale. Also experimenting with other genres helped me a lot because I listen to a lot of metalcore and emo music but my writing style is closer to John Mayer
Should be better called "My Riff progression making Philosophy explained to useless music theory (that won't help you write a good song)" I could also sum up his main tip in this video to this one sentence....Change one note in one of your chords to make it a different chord in trying to a find a better chord progression. Not a bad tip but should be obvious
Isn't music awesome? Man, it's so awesome.
Bro, thank you so much for doing all these videos. You are amazing!
Could you do a video on fitting together multiple parts to create songs?
Please do it 🙏
What I learned is that it is better to build a song slowly and gradually and make riffs, motives that fits the song and the neighbouring riffs or motives, not claying multiple riffs that you came up with in different times, at different mindset etc.
Tyler! You're a godsend teacher! And imma say that every time in my head when i watch these types of videos. Finding your channel made my bond with music so strong that i can play out in my head tons of melodies i can write. Working hard on getting a new electric and amp. I gotta start playing again. Missing out on so much potential. Thank you! Sincerely!!! You're fucking awesome, bro'! :D
haha, thanks for mentioning John Frusciante, more people should definitely get to know his music!
I absolutely love your style!
Love watching your videos man, genuinely get excited to watch when I get the notification that you have uploaded.
Keep it up your content is great!
Been watching your videos for a few months now and I have become such a better guitarist than I was because of it. Big thanks to you and what you do! Keep it up man!
Bless you and your family, thank you for making good quality content. Keep up the good work dude.
Been struggling with songwriting. This helped a lot. Thank you 💜💜
last time I was this early Beethoven was still writing Fur Elise
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more of these pls!
You're the man bro! Love your work. Keep pumping out the videos and awesome advice ! :D
Wow man I got a lot of this video. This channel helped me so much. LOVE your shirt by the way. I'm seeing Jason bonham live in a few weeks!
Bought your courses man, GREAT deals! Thanks.
Awesome video!, this was quite clever in the way of thinking about song writing and looking at different tones etc.. well done! :)
to be honest, i think the major notes sounded better, really gave it that 'Soul to squeeze' RHCP vibe, i dug it! it was more creative sounding than the minor tonality, imo. i feel like majority of players would've played the minor notes there, though. This was an awesome video!!!
yes. You're so right. Major sounded so much more interesting. I'd love a full version of that
I like the second chord progression better. It seemed to float in and out tonally but held together and overall was interesting and fresh.
great lesson and great tune..... thanks
You dont have to be right, You just have to feel good and express your self. Just like making an opinion, it maybe not right but its not wrong
i love that song
I keep skipping to the end to hear his song lol awesome job bro
Very cool stuff dude §
Consequences will never be the same!!
I don't really understand it (the theory stuff; I'm getting there) but I love what you came up with. I haven't gotten to that part yet in your course (which is great, btw).
This dude is great
really good advices... as always :)
can anyone type what he said at 2:52 pls?
which $#&# from A major . I didn't.get that word tks
Yeah your exploration of the chords was actually counter productive since you actually had that B's quality correct in the first place... Your vape is in F# Dorian, not A major which is why that B chord is the 5th of your key and a major chord and why it sounds bad when you force it into being the minor 2 even though the progression does not start on or resolve to an A.
If the Key is F#, wouldnt be the 5th C#(and B the 4th)? I dont fully get what u wanted to say, were you talking about the 2nd Mode of the harmonic minor scale and thats why he raised the 3rd or am I completely wrong?
I was referring to Dorian as the second mode of the major scale. In this case, the related major scale is E, so we got E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#, E so when I referred to B as the 5 I suppose I meant in the context of E major. If you want to be super correct, when you're in dorian it would be the 4 and C# the 5 but the C# is still a minor triad while your 4 is a major chord. I don't bother to distinguish when looking at music, I just find the parent key then observe that it uses a chord other than the 1 as the tonic. I think it's unwise to treat a mode as though it's actually a different key altogether because then those numeral labels that everyone understands goes out the window and people would have to think about the scale pattern to know what chord qualities fit where ect, it's a lot easier to just call it E and say we're starting on F#m. So unless you're using a different scale entirely, like the harmonic minor scale, I'm going to look for the major key related to the mode and think of the song as being in that key. Then I don't have to memorize 7 different scale patterns, there's the one master pattern and you're just starting from a different part of the sequence.
If you look at the chords being used, collect every unique note... so we got F#-A-C#, E-G#-B, B-D#-F# and A-C#-E, giving us; A, B, C#, D#, E, F# and G# - the only key which actually contains all of those notes is E. So looking at this as being in some other key, and borrowing a note from another scale or key or something doesn't make sense. It's not borrowing anything from anywhere, it's just a basic 4 chord progression in the key of E that is technically in the Dorian mode because it begins on the second scale degree, F#m, and that in turn is it's tonal center. Hope that clarifies.
Sorry, man, but you are the type of guy that makes guitarists hate theory. Who cares if the progression was Dorian or Aeolian or Ionian/Major? All he did was change a minor chord to a major because he liked the sound. How the music sounds is far more important than what you call it. By the way, your technical analysis of the song seems to be accurate. But again, who (besides you) really gives a shit?
Two years late, but I wanted to defend/agree with Evan here. I was actually going to post something similar if it wasn't already mentioned.
Starting with an F#m chord doesn't mean your key is F#m. When I first listened to his little riff, the B power chord sounded like "the 5" to me, or the dominant, and the E sounded like the tonic.
Even if people don't know the meaning of those terms, they can hear the resolving nature of the E chord. So when Tyler figured out that the B major sounded better, it's because he switched to a chord that was in the key of E. He can define the key however he wants and perceive the B major as non-diatonic (outside the key), but I would prefer that he just define the key as E. That, however, in no way has to limit where the song can go next.
This is an example of the benefit of allowing some basic theory knowledge to be an enabler, not a limiter. I'm by no means an expert, but some basic knowledge does allow you to make those predictions. (I'm not saying that Tyler doesn't have that knowledge, [he does] but he just didn't mention having considered switching his perceived key in this particular example. Not a criticism.)
this was so good, can you explain how you write solos? And go a bit more in depth on how specific notes work with specific chords?
Dedonarivl96 the ears will reveal what sounds good
Hloy Hesit will do boss
Dedonarivl96 if you can afford it, get a basic loop pedal on Amazon. Best thing I ever did to advance my own guitar skills.
If you have laptop or smart phone or tablet you can record and loop there also.
A very Mark Knopfler groove, man. ;-)
how do you think of all these ideas, of all the music oriented channels that i follow you definitely upload the most. personally I'd run out ideas really quickly
Awesome!)
with this i struggle so so much when i hear that this one note somewhere just asks to be changed but i have absolutely no idea which note exactly and i simply cannot find it argh!
Nice shirt!
Who else liked the second tonality better?
This. Sounded dreamy as all heck
Yep! It actually sounded ridiculously similar to Bob by RHCP
there was kinda of unresolve tension with the second one that sounded kinda of cool.
to me it kinda feels like RHCP+radiohead
I was lost, when you talk about accentuation of minor or major notes. Minor or major is interval. So what interval (between what two notes) you mean?
Hey Tyler, I really like your videos and I learned so much from you in the last months.
I am really interested in what you are doing to make the tonalty come thru. I got what you were doing do make it sound minor-ish. I think its some decending lines and landing on the F# (A->G#->F# and so on), but what are you doing @8:00? you start your phrase at 13th fret of the A String(Bb which is a m2), I dont get why this sounds good when you are playing.
Could you please do more videos about these topics, i would really love it or do I have to study music for that? :D
Best greetings
great tips on song writing. I would like to know chords to match vocal melody.
Changing the tonality of that chord -as he says -modulates the key from F# minor. So how do you know what scale to use? Is it still in F#m but temporarily shifting out just for that one chord.. if so do you switch scales just for that one altered chord or do you see the whole song as being in a new key?
I know this is two years later, but...
I perceive this loop as E major, not A major. So I would recommend using modes/scales from that key. (That will naturally include all four chords: F#m, E, Bmaj, A). I think this would simplify for someone playing along. (This in no way means you'd have to limit what you play, but it sounds like you're looking for the best-fitting framework.)
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Love the audio and video quality of this video. The content is awesome! What camera did you use to film this video?
Hahah yes, sprinkle a lil froosh in there
It's funny this is one of Tyler's best videos and it has no views but him dressing in a poncho and sunglasses making fun of himself has all the views
Hi, I'd like to listen to your songs, do you have any music solo or in a band?
What do you do for a living?? Besides youtube
GuitarAnime he does paid guitar lessons/instruction online if you check the video description, but I don't know if he does anything other than that as well
who else preferred the B minor chord?
Who are your top 5 bands?
kaz85 Beyond Creation
Unhuman
Obscura
First Fragment
Allegaeon
If you think this is good, you should check out his Udemy courses. They are amazing and easy to follow.
The logo makes you look like you have horns.
What model is the red PRS?
I know this is about songwriting but can do tabs for this
How do u come up with the starting riff though?
Ziv Grinfeld kinda late but it’ll eventually come naturally if you just keep learning riffs from other musicians and if you haven’t already, take the time to learn at least CAGED and the minor pentatonic scale. Also experimenting with other genres helped me a lot because I listen to a lot of metalcore and emo music but my writing style is closer to John Mayer
No! for me it sounds better in the mayor tonality
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Should i get a jackson or a squire
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It depends on many things. What genres you play, your budget, among others factors.
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They're both Fender brands so it's really up to you
though the song is nice
the first 4 chords sounds like a gorillaz song but i cant remember wich one
Daniel McLarty is it dirty harry?
It reminds me of Red Hot Chili Peppers Under The Bridge
i think you should grow a beard
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John Frusciante
What about rap does this apply to trap beats and slur rap?
Guitars AndJams ye
This tells you nothing in how to write a song.
Read the title
ya it says "songwriting"
Clyde Ssites emphasis on "MY" songwriting philosophy...
Should be better called "My Riff progression making Philosophy explained to useless music theory (that won't help you write a good song)" I could also sum up his main tip in this video to this one sentence....Change one note in one of your chords to make it a different chord in trying to a find a better chord progression. Not a bad tip but should be obvious
Clyde Ssites well opinions are opinions 😜😜