Tor, those light illustrations are great. Every other teacher or pro explains how to count and play the ball but seeing the actual path is so much easier to understand! Thanks
If only it wasn't so expensive and lack portability. It would be great if a local hall got it and rented it out for additional table time expense. I think it would be profitable and in demand.
I've been watching your videos since 2013 and you've upped my game so much. The APA and BCA players I play with still can't believe the amount of banks/kicks I hit! I've turned them onto your videos so hopefully, I have some competition ;). Thanks, Tor!!!!
I have watched this lesson a couple of times and then practiced for 3-4 hours. My ability to make the ball was greatly improved. I’m confident that with more practice I will continue to improve. Thanks for the lesson.
I’ve been following your instructionals and even bought a few from your website for many years. I appreciate all you’ve done for me in helping me improve my game. Thank you.
I’ve watched many so called pool “experts” videos this is the best by far it’s an excellent presentation easy precise and clear and anyone can understand it thank you
Diamond-brand tables all bank short. The easy fix is not to aim through the rail diamond as on all other tables, but at the point on the cushion's face, where the ball contacts the cushion directly in front of the diamond. This moves the cue ball to the left just enough to make the shot with center follow. There's no guessing.
One of the most crucial things to be able to do is visualize what's going to happen with the balls before one takes the shot. This video using ICA shows it loud and clear! Great system Tor, and as always, thanks for uploading!
simply the best instructor working today. works in laymans terms in simple and easy to understand manner. sharivari is a newcomer whos similar, dr dave is overly mathematical although brilliant, but tor lowry is the best of them all.
Fantastic learning aI’d, and. Ive been trying to Find Part II though and no luck. Was wondering what one does when the cue ball path is off the table. Say along the short side and you want to make a ball in the far pocket?
I've found the diamonds work better on a Diamond table. The Brunswicks at the hall take about 1/2 to 1 tip running English to get them to bank as they should med slow to medium speed, geometrically. They won't bank long, shooting correct diamond geometry center ball no matter how slow you hit them. When I've played on Diamond tables I've noticed they bank much more 'true'. It may also be that the hall tables are all 30+ years old, and don't get much maintenance beyond fixing broken pockets and re clothing a couple of times a year. They are using good cloth, though, 860.
Tor, at the 6:28 mark you parallel your cue from the 50 to 54 point (gain of 4) and on opposite side you go from the 25 to 27 point (gain of 2). That is NOT a parallel as your graphic would lead one to believe. You widened the angle of your cue and failed to mention that.
If you do the math correctly, then you don't need to concern yourself with that. I'm learning this myself, so would you say that is correct? What I understood him to be saying was how to find the numbers and path. You don't even need to use your cue if you can imagine the path it's on.
@Tor Lowry: Question for you: If your cue ball was on the 40-20 path to kick at a ball sitting in the corner pocket.... instead of the 20 path what number would you kick to, if your object ball was on the end rail, at 1-1/2 diamonds from the corner pocket? Thanks, man
Should be 15 on the side rail with no sidespin. If your table plays short then you'll have to make the adjustment. You also have to make a slight adjustment based on how far away the cue ball is from the side rail (as explained in the Diamond Systems video). If the cue ball is close to the side pocket then it should be 15.
From my experience, No matter whether the CB is left or right of the banking line, the OB path doesn’t change. With cutting any ball, you may have to adjust for squirt or swerve, but the aiming line for the OB still, does not change.
The object ball line of aim is the same regardless of cue ball position. If the cue ball and object ball are aligned the path for the object ball is still always on that path and must be sent there regardless of where the cue ball is. Assuming of course you want the object ball to go into a particular pocket
The biggest issue i keep running into is the bank shot not going at an angle but instead going straight off the rail. I'll aim the bank to hit the 20 but instead of going towards the pocket it goes straight across to the 20 spot on the other rail. I'm playing on a Brunswick table. Center to center high English.
At 11:15 in the video, you say that the 8 ball is on the 30 15 path. Maybe I'm missing something as I'm just now seeing this method, but if I draw a straight line from the 8 ball to the end rail, that is not hitting the third diamond... more like 25. Can anyone help explain if he just misspoke or if I'm thinking wrong? Thanks!
That was disgustingly good . i am amazed how easy you made all that and yet i still cannot determine the path ,,,, what ball to use as a path . if you turn the butt of the cue any direction it drastically altars the path . tory i know you made reference and i keep seeing how you do it but when i picture that in my head it draws a blank . since pool balls are round it seems any angle you put the butt of the cue on the cueball that becomes the path ,. and it would still be the exact back of the cueball .
Great job...but... It seems to me like teaching to play a guitar without showing the cords to push. You didnt showed what part of the cue ball is hit by the stick. To me is part of the angle the ball will follow.
@Tor Lowry: sorry about my last question...I meant to say on the (end ) rail, but I just realized when I read it again, I didn't say it....so it looked like I asked you the same thing I already asked you. Sorry again, man...hope you can answer me.
at least there is no ridiculous point to mark on the walls hahaha but still if you need to calculate thta much to do a simple bank maybe its time to find a less difficult hobby like Rubik Cube or Chess
Tor, those light illustrations are great. Every other teacher or pro explains how to count and play the ball but seeing the actual path is so much easier to understand! Thanks
Thanks! ICA Training does a great job with their system.
Terrible instructions
@@portobelloedinburgh8891 ESL problem?
If only it wasn't so expensive and lack portability. It would be great if a local hall got it and rented it out for additional table time expense. I think it would be profitable and in demand.
I've been watching your videos since 2013 and you've upped my game so much. The APA and BCA players I play with still can't believe the amount of banks/kicks I hit! I've turned them onto your videos so hopefully, I have some competition ;). Thanks, Tor!!!!
You are the best teacher on the internet. Thank you so much for your help and generosity.
I have watched this lesson a couple of times and then practiced for 3-4 hours. My ability to make the ball was greatly improved. I’m confident that with more practice I will continue to improve. Thanks for the lesson.
How to count in between the diamond segments then you're help would be greatly appreciated
I’ve been following your instructionals and even bought a few from your website for many years. I appreciate all you’ve done for me in helping me improve my game. Thank you.
wow this is so helpful for someone like me as a beginner getting to understand the logics on the table
I’ve watched many so called pool “experts” videos this is the best by far it’s an excellent presentation easy precise and clear and anyone can understand it thank you
Excellent training video! I'm subscribed. 😊
Really cool teaching software!
Incredible!
First-time I've seen that
Diamond-brand tables all bank short. The easy fix is not to aim through the rail diamond as on all other tables, but at the point on the cushion's face, where the ball contacts the cushion directly in front of the diamond. This moves the cue ball to the left just enough to make the shot with center follow. There's no guessing.
This is excellent. I've been practicing. I noticed speed is everything on these. If possible I slow down on "short" tables.
One of the most crucial things to be able to do is visualize what's going to happen with the balls before one takes the shot. This video using ICA shows it loud and clear! Great system Tor, and as always, thanks for uploading!
simply the best instructor working today. works in laymans terms in simple and easy to understand manner. sharivari is a newcomer whos similar, dr dave is overly mathematical although brilliant, but tor lowry is the best of them all.
Amazing video! The best and the most simple I've seen on bank shots
Love your video. Your teaching of banking is 100% correct.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Fantastic learning aI’d, and. Ive been trying to Find Part II though and no luck. Was wondering what one does when the cue ball path is off the table. Say along the short side and you want to make a ball in the far pocket?
I always needed help with banking, thanks for the video, really helps!
This has really helped my banking. Awesome.
this is incredible advice honestly and such a simple explination
Incredible. I wish my banking skills were 1/4 as good as yours.
I really liked this once ya figure out how it works , the path being half!! Awesome thank you
Even I don't speak inglés your explanation is very nice!
That ICA system is awesome but definitely not cheap!
I've found the diamonds work better on a Diamond table. The Brunswicks at the hall take about 1/2 to 1 tip running English to get them to bank as they should med slow to medium speed, geometrically. They won't bank long, shooting correct diamond geometry center ball no matter how slow you hit them. When I've played on Diamond tables I've noticed they bank much more 'true'. It may also be that the hall tables are all 30+ years old, and don't get much maintenance beyond fixing broken pockets and re clothing a couple of times a year. They are using good cloth, though, 860.
This is a real masterclass ❤
Why haven't you cane out with a part two of this video. It has been way to long. I really miss your new videos. Thanks tor
Wow, what a find. This sure explains a lot😁
Excellent video my brother
Great illustration.
I can completely understand your numbers system.
However, I just visualize the ball coming off the rail at the same angle. Easy enough to see.
Tor, at the 6:28 mark you parallel your cue from the 50 to 54 point (gain of 4) and on opposite side you go from the 25 to 27 point (gain of 2). That is NOT a parallel as your graphic would lead one to believe. You widened the angle of your cue and failed to mention that.
If you do the math correctly, then you don't need to concern yourself with that. I'm learning this myself, so would you say that is correct? What I understood him to be saying was how to find the numbers and path. You don't even need to use your cue if you can imagine the path it's on.
Where is part 2?? I am really excited..
@Tor Lowry: Question for you: If your cue ball was on the 40-20 path to kick at a ball sitting in the corner pocket.... instead of the 20 path what number would you kick to, if your object ball was on the end rail, at 1-1/2 diamonds from the corner pocket? Thanks, man
Should be 15 on the side rail with no sidespin. If your table plays short then you'll have to make the adjustment. You also have to make a slight adjustment based on how far away the cue ball is from the side rail (as explained in the Diamond Systems video). If the cue ball is close to the side pocket then it should be 15.
@@ZeroXBilliards Ok, that'll help....thanks very much again, man.
Awesome video! I'm excited to try it!
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When does part 2 come out? Particularly curious about banking when the cue ball is to the left or right of the line of travel.
I have a few more videos that will be released first before the second part comes out.
From my experience, No matter whether the CB is left or right of the banking line, the OB path doesn’t change. With cutting any ball, you may have to adjust for squirt or swerve, but the aiming line for the OB still, does not change.
The object ball line of aim is the same regardless of cue ball position. If the cue ball and object ball are aligned the path for the object ball is still always on that path and must be sent there regardless of where the cue ball is. Assuming of course you want the object ball to go into a particular pocket
@@ZeroXBilliards Was Part 2 released? I have the numbers system down just need this second part to send it home. Thanks for the excellent content!!!!
Very helpful video!
Tor, where can I find part 2?
if you want it to run true. imagine the diamonds half a ball from the chusin.
often there's a wear line in the cloth there.
Thank you so much for this.
Bonjour ! Cours tres tres interessant ! Malheureusement dommage qu'il n'y est pas de sous titrage en francais 👍👍
That was easier than I expected!
Thanks for the video. This was very helpful. What causes a table to shoot short?
Nicely done!
The biggest issue i keep running into is the bank shot not going at an angle but instead going straight off the rail. I'll aim the bank to hit the 20 but instead of going towards the pocket it goes straight across to the 20 spot on the other rail. I'm playing on a Brunswick table. Center to center high English.
The best. Great presentation!
Nicely done 👍.
Where can I get this system?
What happens when you are on a diamond table that banks 1/4 to 1/2 diamond short? Can you calibrate the ICA Training system to the rails?
Amazing video, thanks a lot 😊
If a table is playing short, doesn't that mean the rail is installed incorrectly? What else could it be?
thanks, good system to work on.
Thanks for the vids very educational
Does this work only on the table size u have, does this work on smaller tables?
Awesome product and hope we can have such sold here in South Africa 🇿🇦, I will love to own one... 👌👌👌
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Wow.... thanks!!
This was really awesome.
Great video 👍 learned a lot
As usual great job
the reason it comes up short with wider distance or impact speed is that the rail compression reduces deflect angle period no other reason
How high are your lights over the table?
Does anyone have the link handy for Part 2?? Thank you!!
WOW great information!
Brilliant video.
At 11:15 in the video, you say that the 8 ball is on the 30 15 path. Maybe I'm missing something as I'm just now seeing this method, but if I draw a straight line from the 8 ball to the end rail, that is not hitting the third diamond... more like 25. Can anyone help explain if he just misspoke or if I'm thinking wrong? Thanks!
It's just the angle we see it from.
2:25...looks to me that you missed short because of not being on the 40 20 line but a little in front of it...
That was disgustingly good . i am amazed how easy you made all that and yet i still cannot determine the path ,,,, what ball to use as a path .
if you turn the butt of the cue any direction it drastically altars the path .
tory i know you made reference and i keep seeing how you do it but when i picture that in my head it draws a blank .
since pool balls are round it seems any angle you put the butt of the cue on the cueball that becomes the path ,. and it would still be the exact back of the cueball .
11:20
thank you for explaining
Do you always get ball in hand
Is there similar software for the projection pro system?
Tor how much sidespin do we use when banking these shots? Sometimes when I bank they come up short, even when I shoot slow speed!
Cant shoot slow speed. It probably should be medium to fast to keep momentum.
Can someone send me a link for the part 2 of this video
If it has one
Thanks ^_^
Is there a part 2?
How I figure out the path like 50 20 to go to zero
why does the angle not work (must adjust according to table) even though the angle is correct
lmao now i can answer my own question after a year. Didnt even know i watched this video but apparently i did a year ago HAHA
Is that a 9" table plz?
Hi,yes, a Diamond 9 footer
amazing!
Thanks! In a nut shell!
Who is selling that ica system
Great job...but... It seems to me like teaching to play a guitar without showing the cords to push. You didnt showed what part of the cue ball is hit by the stick. To me is part of the angle the ball will follow.
Nice very useful
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Now i know thank you more videos subscribe done
what is the diamond system for two rail shots, pl
split the shot in 3rds
This is a good video for 2 rail (side & end rail)... ruclips.net/video/PW_pSnZ1BAk/видео.html
Where is part 2?
Where’s part 2 ?
Ironically, diamonds system is completely off on every Diamonds table that I've tried, which is pretty shit for such highly praised inventory.
Maybe it's your stroke that's off
🙌🙌🙌
waiting for part 2 o
Awesome 👍🎱🇳🇿
Depending on your English?
English means hitting the cue ball on the left or right from dead center!
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@Tor Lowry: sorry about my last question...I meant to say on the (end ) rail, but I just realized when I read it again, I didn't say it....so it looked like I asked you the same thing I already asked you. Sorry again, man...hope you can answer me.
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What’s English?
Ok
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at least there is no ridiculous point to mark on the walls hahaha but still if you need to calculate thta much to do a simple bank maybe its time to find a less difficult hobby like Rubik Cube or Chess
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