Taiwan is Building It's Own Version of Starlink. Here's Why.
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Explore Taiwan's bold journey to create its own satellite network as a defense against China. Discover how Starlink inspired a national movement to safeguard the future of Taiwanese connectivity.
Taiwan is smart.
Shame the US is not. Musk is a Clear and present danger to all democracies goverments especially ours would be smart to move away from him quickly.
Understatement of the month
Ruling DPP is a Deep State's U$A's proxy .
6:01 Ukrainians also did not want to be involved in war. They wanted to watch Netflix and chill and get online for schools and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes. But here we are.
Great point.
You can thank Zelensky for that
well peace treaties have been offered several times
@@suds8235 Same peace treaties as all three Minsk agreements? Or as the Budapest Memorandum? Or the Friendship Treaty of 1997? Treaties with russia aren't worth the paper they are written on.
@@Sasha11711 all they had to do was not play around with nato membership and they would've been left alone.
now they're waging a war they cant win without the support of another country.
so yea, take the peace treaty when you're the one fucking around in the first place.
Good luck, Taiwan. I know you can do it.
Ruling DPP embraces LGBTQ agenda and fancied Japanese Imperialism... also a Deep State's U$A's proxy.
The last time Taiwan built something we got the best semiconductors on the planet.
No.
TSMC semiconductors are everywhere. Looking at Apple, TSMC wafer in that chip
The world-leading extreme UV lithography machines that Taiwan is utterly dependent on (the ones the West won't sell to Russia or China!) are all designed and built by a single company in......Germany.Taiwan,like China is much more a factory than a centre of innovation.
Well, yes actually.
Taiwan produces the majority of the world’s semi-conductors at 60%
AND they produce 90% of the most advanced semi-conductors.
If anyone could lay claim to having the best, it’s definitely Taiwan.
Oh yes!
Elon Musk's business link with China's CCP via Tesla is a cause for concern.
Given SpaceX's dominance in the US satellite launch, and Elon's occasional sympathy towards Russia and China makes one pause.
There should be alternatives to SpaceX and StarLink in the US.
Taiwan is doing the right thing by being cautious over Elon's commitment
You cannot win a war with borrowed armour, you dont need an excuse to make your own system. Taiwan can build what it wants without using Musk as a scare crow
Elon Musk's stability and political leaning not to mention the Russia therefor China connections makes Starlink a questionable choice.
Idk how good Tesla relations with china are, they stole Tesla tech and gave it to a bunch of startups that now produce more, better, cheaper cars than Tesla
Yeah w/e your not backing anything up with Facts, You probbly are one of those bobble heads that believe he gave a cyber truck to a russian general too. Oh your not even a bobblehead your a Bot just checked your info, None just like most bots. As far as Alternatives you have Boeing which has been leeching taxpayer dollars for decades and Blue Origin which is by Jeff Who. Taiwan is doing this due to mistrust in America supporting them in general.
What do you mean?
Trusting billionaires with fashy friends to take over critical infrastructure has never gone wrong before!
Taiwan isn't just a technology power or a manufacturing power, they are a technology manufacturing power. They are the country in a Civ game going the technology achievement route, since diplomacy wins and natural resources aren't in their cards
nope, they are "citystate" that are npcs.
when every important resource is imported， nope no power there， everything is market driven
@@lagrangewei the ones in PRC are slaves providing human organs for the ccp elites.
Of chips, not everything else
except high end chips taiwan doesnt manufacture that much, if you lived in taiwan youd know most things are made in china
Good, Starlink needs some serious competition
that wont be coming from taiwan though 🤣🤣🤣
plus Starlink has competitors, they just suck balls
@@AldrickExGladiusmore than starlink?
They have serious competition but yet incapable
@@Jameson1776Yea, They don’t stand a chance in Rural areas. Starlink constellation is massive
You have five channels..
Taiwan, as a country, is rightfully concerned that SpaceX will cut the Internet link after the call from the Winnie the pooh office.
ROC 🇹🇼 is linked with U$A's undersea telecom cable system.
Godspeed Taiwan! Make Winnie the Pooh pay!
Taiwan has given everyone a fair deal, this is not about killing your competition.
Thank you, we'll try our best to protect our freedom and homeland !
ROC 🇹🇼 is in danger of being abolish by the ruling DPP !
Thus endangering ROC 🇹🇼 citizens' freedom and homeland !
" a quasi nation, the republic of china known around the world as Taiwan" NO NO NO, Taiwan is Taiwan, it is not china. don't bend the knee to authoritarians.
Taiwan has not declare independence, this isn't even about China. it about Taiwan own constitution still calling itself a province of China. they just don't recognise the communist as the government.
It's a nation by every practical measure. One of the highest rated true democracies, it's own own laws, money, president, passport, tax system, laws, and culture (culture because it escaped the cultural revolution and the influence from various rounds of colonization, especially Japanese. The behavior and mores of the populaces are noticeably different).
China has done a good job of propagandizing the world, and bribing world leaders to look the other way, but anyone who doubts it should go for a visit. It's a lovely place, with some of the nicest, warmest people in the world.
@@walterwilkinson1499 Nevertheless it is embarrassing to the CCP to see what they could have become if they weren't stealing all the money from the people.
@@walterwilkinson1499yes very correct. Dont mix the international gangsters ccp with the whole china and chinese people... the ccp PLA army only protects the ccp and not tge people like the ccp tricks the world and the chinese people into believing.
You can say some provocative stuff in the internet, sure, but there is a reason why Taiwan still officially takes in the Republic of China (different from the PRC) or Chinese Taipei as their name in other countries. Once the war pops, then we can stop the entire charade and finally officially call em Taiwan but no one wants that war at this moment.
The way Simon said it is the objectively proper way to say it given the situation
Taiwan should not produce Semi chips for any of Elon's companies, see if that makes Elon change his mind about helping Taiwan!
All chips are designed in-house and fabricated in S.K/China by Samsung currently. As late as 2024, Tesla had been looking at building its own fab as a means of decreasing reliance on global trade that could be interrupted by geo-political strife.
@@SuperGrAAs Elon is playing 4D chess if that is the case. Also FAD's are very expensive in the 4 to 5 billion range .
@@SuperGrAAs Tesla's planning on designing its silicon in-house like Apple, they still need an external fab like TSMC, Samsung, Intel, or Global Foundries to produce their chips. It is highly unlikely that Tesla has enough capital on hand to start its own semiconductor fabrication business, not without assistance from the US Government.
That is silly, they are in business together, no one said Elon wouldn't help Taiwan.
@@allenaxp6259 FAB's.
Taiwan....So proud of you. No one should trust that guy with anything that important. America needs to wake up and stop funding his madness.
I mean... does ANYONE actually trust Elon Musk? 😅
not me as he is becoming more radical right lately.
The Whitehouse, Pentagon US State Department do.
And they are the ones actually deciding what SpaceX and Starlink can and cannot do.
Taiwan and I are on the same page.
The Taiwanese are smart!
The world’s second highest population average IQ to be precise.
"Taiwan doesn't trust Elon" ... can not blame them for that. Neither do I.
why not? he spent 40 billion to save free speech.
@@Jeerleb He could have saved 40 billion by posting on truth social instead.
@@hurrdurrmurrgurr i don’t even know what that is. Do you really need me to explain to you how influence and popularity are used for propaganda? Or do you think a small honest news outlet is going to reach the general population?
@@Jeerleb😂 that's just so funny
@@Jeerlebfreedom to him is just HIS freedom to do whatever he wants, without consequences, he doesn't care about your freedom or anybody else's
China is also known as West Taiwan.
The Great Chiiinaah
Rubbish, Taiwan is also known as Republic of China. Fact.
@@madsam0320 As long as Chiiinaah is going to bully and act a fool, they will be known as West Taiwan!
@@madsam0320 What I think he is probably referring to is that Taiwan claims that it is the sole legitimate government of all of China, including the PRC holding of the mainland.
Just as the PRC has never relinquished its claims of sovereignty over both the mainland and Taiwan, so to neither has Taiwan ever relinguished its claims of soveriengnty of the island it holds and the mainland.
This is something that pretty much all western commentators, pundits and politico's are strangly silent on.
i usually call it western Taiwan
Im proud of you tawaiin
As a Taiwanese who is selling electronic materials to PCB shops and EMS companies, I would say Taiwan keeps business relations with certain end clients because we want to know the latest developments in supply chains and slowly but surely upgrade our businesses. That's why Tesla and SpaceX are still the important clients of some Taiwanese companies; we do not compete with our clients (we are suppliers and manufacturers), but we are developing our technologies and know-how by working with them. We want to know what base materials or what types of designs can be used for high-end applications (such as satellites) and thus we can recommend the equivalent materials to our local manufacturers. We do not like Intel, Samsung, Tesla, or SpaceX, but they are still our valued clients because we can learn a lot from working with them. Oftentimes end clients will treat suppliers and manufacturers rudely like we are their slaves but that's ok. We know what we need and are getting what we came for...
Anyone who thinks Elon is freedom loving should understand he’s only talking about his own freedom.
Free to steal your money!
Simon summed it up in his introduction...... "One Capricious Billionaire" :: Very diplomatic Simon
Let's be honest... He has more in common with Putin than any of us, so can't say I trust him, either
Spoken like a mentally ill leftist.
who thinks of others when considering freedom?
According to RUclips this was aired 13 days ago. The current Taiwan president is Mr. Lai Chin-De since May 20, 2024. I’m a Taiwan citizen and I’m not aware of such a project, of course it doesn’t mean this doesn’t exist, I hope it does and we will succeed. In any case, thank you for putting Taiwan on the map.
It was on the news but wan't put on the headline.
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@@h.y-chen 謝謝。我再跟進
@@hsiufenchen I will pay more attention to this. Thank you.
Another reason why monopolies are a nightmare
People all the time ask why does the government give space contracts to so and so when SpaceX is so dominate, and reliable.
Its because the government doesn't want a monopoly, and especially is weary of Musk playing geopolitics.
SpaceX relies on government contracts and subsidizes. They wouldn't be have as much in private investment if suddenly the government stopped supporting them. So learn to play ball with the government if you're going to receive hand outs.
The way I see it Elon is a vain sue happy 53 edge lord who is going off the rocker.
He needs to stick to his lane, and stay out of politics.
@@dianapennepacker6854You obviously don’t know how things work and are speaking from your little emotions instead of looking at the facts. Space x doesn’t rely on government subsidies. The government relies on space x. Space x win most government contracts because they are the most dominant, Most inexpensive and the One and only space launch provider. 95% of all payload launched in the world is done by space X which means everyone goes to space x to send up payload. They’re funded by Starlink and the contracts that people pay to send up payloads. US is just one of those contractors.
@@dianapennepacker6854 The fun part is that NASA gives contracts to other companies, they then do the predictable thing of squandering it on jobs programs that produce no viable results on time, need bigger budgets for empty promises that are never kept, until years later and $billions over budget, one such jobs program spits out a spacecraft that strands two astronauts on the ISS for eight months.
If the government stopped supporting SpaceX, it would have no launch services provider. ULA can't deliver because it has no proven replacement for the Russian engines it used to rely on. Blue Origin still can't get it up to orbit. Rocket Lab doesn't fly in SpaceX's weight class, and we're probably still years away from Dream Chaser proving its viability and stealing Boeing's thunder. If the government stopped supporting SpaceX, we'd be right back at square one contracting the friggin' Russians to rescue our space program with Soyuz capsules, and the price for that, in today's world? Would probably overshadow any and all damage Elon has done to his own brand vis a vis Ukraine's histrionics over not wanting to pay its internet bill.
Lol. "Monopolies" are no worse than government. They are exactly the same.
You can vote on how state/public properties, resources and assets should be utilized, just like Elon's investors and stakeholders have say in those corporations/monopolies.
In short, if you want to influence Elon, buy some Tesla share.
@@dianapennepacker6854 Elon is in his lane, sorry you don't like it. You should examine your motives more closely, Elon is not you and you are not Elon.
Would you trust Elon?
I trust Elon
I’d trust him. To be Elon
Would you trust Biden or Trump?
i would
@@theobserver3753 Neither
I'm extremely confident Taiwan is more than capable of accomplishing the task at hand in a bold and progressive way no less.
Elan’s one sided political views is what will destroy everything the smart American engineers have created for him.
I work in aerospace & defense and have experience working on L-sat and cubesat programs. for reference, NASA is working on commissioning a similar satellite network to provide redundant internet access for our gov & military (bc we also don’t want to be at the mercy of elon’s whims if it came down to it lol).
taiwan could absolutely do something similar with just a handful of well designed relay sats. it’s more technologically onerous per payload, but it also doesn’t require launching hundreds of cubesats to form a whole constellation. given the size of their country and the relatively small amount of data that would need to be relayed (when compared to like the US or global coverage), they wouldn’t need nearly as many satellites or as high of uplink capacity as Starlink or other comparable initiatives.
But They still have to rely on Elon to send up their Satellites. & The government buys starshield from space x so they rely on him too. The only way for anyone to catch up to Elon is to build reusable rockets. Elon points and the rest of the world follows. That’s why people always say don’t bet against Elon.
You mean starshield?
I think the issue is network lag, which favors larger numbers in lower orbits.
Geosync relays are great for 1 way broadcast, but have nearly a half second of round trip signal lag just for speed of light transit.
That might not be enough for guided drone / missile navigation a la Ukrainian fpv drone warfare
If the US is making a constellation, and the US is , let's say, extremely interested in the existence of Taiwan, wouldn't it make sense for the US program and Taiwan program to work together?
@@QBCPerdition Now countries are aware Starlink is at Elins whim, it provides a service that can't be relied on or trusted.
For many this will be intolerable and those that can afford it will seek dedicated country networks, or networks they can share with trusted partners.
Taiwan doesn't really need as big of a constellation as Starlink. Starlink is intended to provide internet to the whole globe, Taiwan really just needs a ring of satellites constantly passing over, well, just Taiwan, and maybe one or two other countries minimum to act as a downlink trunk back to the internet at large, so they'd probably only require maybe 10% as many as Elon plans to launch. For redundancy, they could create 2 or 3 rings on different orbital planes, but they really just need 1 orbital ring to make it work
Depends on how much seed capital the island can produce. One would think. Taiwan is definitely showing a more pronounced edge with this move.
A couple of rings and satellites stored in foreign nations ready to replace destroyed or degraded elements of the constellation. Which is easily doable on an accelerated timeline.
One ring makes them vulnerable, China could knock out just a handful and cause gaps that are not only predictable but are easily exploitable.
Multiple rings and ready replacements creates the redundancy to actually be useful.
Agree Starlink isn't the only model. 100-200 in polar sun synchronous orbit at about 800km could do the job. Taiwan could seek partnerships with friendly countries in the same plane, Japan, Phillipines, Indonesia, Australia and on the opposite side Africa, Israel etc.
@@jimgraham6722 Huh? Polar orbit? Dood, the Earth rotates man. That means they cant use their internet 80% of the day.
I'm a grad student in NTHU
I walk past TASA almost everyday
I kept wondering why taiwan needs a space agency
Taiwan's a small country with only 23M people and 800B gdp
Thanks for clearing it up for me
Cables could easily be cut by China
Building taiwan's our starlink is the way to go
I would buy Taiwan internet services in Canada
As a Taiwanese, and looking at our politicians… with a few being brought by China and traitors here and there. I could only hope this goes through
Right? Though I am laughing a bit at the KMT going "We want to investigate corruption!" And when Ko was investigated for corruption they were like, "No, not like that!"
I heard Taiwan was cooperating with some European companies on this project.
Should be One Web🤔
I trust Boeing to make the next Starlink. Makers of planes that totally fly, and space capsules that totally work.
Good move to not trust Elon Musk's ability to over think a problem, personalize it and then (over)react in a way to screw over his users. I wonder if StarLink would have been available to Ukraine if Tesla had a factory in Russia???
The answer is Nope, Elon is in Putrids back pocket!
I also don't trust Elon
only a fool would.
I trust him far more than his Board of Directors. You should be far more scared of what happens if Elon is gone. That's why this is a great idea: get rid of all risk by just not trusting any of them. If you're so hyperfocused on one person that you would rather have far worse situations, then you're ... well, I edited out what I said.
Nobody should belive that monster ... Elon is chinas agent
Starlink requires the most advanced semiconductors made by TSMC to run. I wonder if Taiwan can refuse Starlink’s semiconductor purchases? I think by echoing PRC’s threats towards Taiwan, they should reconsider Starlink from obtaining those most advanced technology.
I mean... can you blame them? 😂
I'm glad Simon has not shut down this channel.
Good decision, screw Elon, he is a threat not a benefactor. Viva Taiwan!
A threat? why because CNN told you that?
@@michael7394"Anyone who disagrees with Elon is a CNN viewer" -you
@@michael7394definitely a threat. Im british. Elon is a compromat
@@nejahdproductions3707 so where do you get your information to know if Elon is a threat or benefactor ?
@@michael7394 Let's see. His own words? His own actions? His own tweets?
Taiwan saw what Musk did to Ukraine and US governments and said "nope."
what did he do?
@@AldrickExGladius Well in Ukraine they were using Starlink as a military asset for coms and other stuff. Russia showed it had the capability to shoot a ground based rocket at a satellite and destroy it at the Starlink shell. Musk stopped letting Ukraine use Starlink as a military asset so Russia didnt start knocking Starlink out of the sky and Kessler the entire 525km shell. This angered may people that think very very short term.
In the US Musk didnt censor speech like the Biden administration wanted him to and allowed people to share stories that brought to light many of their lies about stuff like Covid and Biden's family's criminal activities. This angered many of the same people.
@@AldrickExGladius He offered them free Starlink internet access to maintain communications and for defensive purposes, then when they violated their agreement and started using it offensively he threatened to turn it off.
@@HikuroMishiro that some ISP moment 😂
@@HikuroMishiro They were about to take out an ship that was firing Iskanders at theyre citys so a defenceive act but elon did not just threatened them he did turn it off as they were about to hit the ship. elon is a ruski&chyna lover thats a well known fact, free world needs to take care of this proplem sooner then later.
Elon really showed the weakness of starlink. Namely himself. When he treated Ukraines access in the hour of need. Also shows the big problem with neoliberalism. Having vital infrastructure in a few private hands.
At the same time, one must question about orbital pollution. Sooner or later all satellites becomes junk. Shouldn’t those who personally profited also do the clean up?
What you mean how Ukraine didn't request access in crimea?
@@nate32396 You’re been in a coma? Since you missed it!
I mean I see what you are saying but should independent businesses acting seperately really be doing acts that impact wars between nations they are not even based in?
Its incredibly easy in the case of a company like star link to be like "of course" because it is a massive help to civilian populations, cost them little, and russia is seen by most (not all) of the world as the bad guy.
However this sets a bad precedent and ignores a lot of risk. First off if this becomes to much of a military asset for one side, the right country may just decide it becomes a military target.
What does starlink do when its satelites get shot down and/or hacked by china, as all local branches are siezed and sister companies recieve lije tesla the same treatment? Unless a country like the US is backing them and covering for the loss, as well as protecting stuff/helping rebuild they reasonibly can't do this.
Plus when does a company justifibly get to take action? If the world is split and this isn't just internet but something like guns, what are we going to allow?
Are we really going to make it possibly that morally grey conflicts could be decided by what companies with money support who?
Its easy just to blame elon but we don't expect every ex military guy to go to ukraine to fight or even every person to take that couple of dollars you would of spent on your kid a new toy or a pizza and give it to ukraine instead.
So why do we expect companies that are built to look out for profit and have international assets and employees to do so?
@@kumiq17 Understand that the Ukraine war don’t just concern Russia and Ukraine. The outcome has wide security and strategic consequences for the freedom of the hole west including the US.
Besides most of the money goes to replace existing military materiel in the US. Witch mostly was about to go out of date anyway.
What do you think Ronald Reagan would have done in this case?
Or should we only get involved in wars where we ain’t welcomed!
@@MyTv- To your first point yes, the war does not only concern Russia and Ukraine but when has a war ever only concerned the countries involved?
Ukraine does indeed have a bit more relevance then most of the recent conflicts, however are you not merely giving me reason as to why the countries impacted should be more involved in it and not individual companies?
I was never speaking of it as if other countries should not act in their own benefit and you are projecting that idea. I am merely talking about companies acting independently and I brought up many points you did not acknowledge, likely because you do not have a answer for them.
This is not the US actively getting involved using starlink, this is people wanting a company to act on its own, on global matters that will have a major impact and there are consequences and grey areas to this. Starlink is not US gov property and it is not a existing military material that will go out of debt anyways.
If you really wanted starlink to help Ukraine and you wanted the US to support it, why does the US not just buy some and use space X to launch them up? Its because they want this grey area where they have nothing much to lose.
Elon is about as trustworthy as Putin!
Hmm made electric cars mainstream, built the most successful space vehicle in history, and made internet available to anyone in the world? Don't buy the propaganda. Elons the shit. Alot more normal than the scumbag politicians who want to make him look bad.
Exactly. Give the the chair of Putin he probably will do exactly the same thing.
I agree!
i don’t blame them
Good for them. I don't trust Elon either.
I trust him far more than his Board of Directors. You should be far more scared of what happens if Elon is gone. That's why this is a great idea: get rid of all risk by just not trusting any of them.
@@bradallen1832 Probably so, but he's listed as having 50% of the company controlling 79%. Kinda sounds like he's the man and a bellend too. LOL! He's slick and slimy. I don't give a rat's backside because I don't use anything connected to him, except Google. However they are an investor, so I'm not scared of him or his company. Just don't trust him is all. Cheers
Well then
You are not paying attention.
And obviously have your head up your ass.
hilarious. Everybody here against Elon but compared to other rich people he's a sweetheart
@@JoeyP946I don't have anything against him, I just don't trust him.
Anyone who actually trusts Elon hasn't been paying attention.
It’s a great strategy. American help and innovation is fickle. Can come and go depending on who is in office or if a given billionaire is going through a nervous breakdown. My only concern is the seer number of satellites in orbit. They’re bound to collide.
There's smart ways to mitigate that. I.e., government can't do it, and some of the existing government treaties are actually in the way of solving that.
Ya know, if Taiwan has to encircle the globe anyway, just to ensure their own connectivity, they could easily sell service to others who desperately need it on a civil basis. This would actually help carry the financial weight involved in the program. And if & when the CCP launches an attack on the small island nation, Taiwan can simply throttle all civilian users in favor of military defense requirements.
If I were Musk, I’d be concerned. After all, Taiwan will be using much newer and probably faster technology that could easily represent a challenge to StarLink.
What Elon gives, Elon can take away
Taiwan, South Korea and Japan need to work more together on space issues. It is difficult because of their interrelated histories, but they need to get past their differences "now". Together, they could do this.
Taiwan is a heroic nation in the world
If most people hate Elon Musk, it must be that Elon Musk is on the wrong track.
i remember reading an article out of Japan and Korea where they were trying to get Taiwan to join in a defense contract to help develop arms and munitions against china ... long story short most of the contracts that were either directly from Taiwan or Taiwan was supposed to share were found to subcontract parts from china .... Obviously the various governments including the Taiwan govt. about had a meltdown. Made for an interesting read to say the least with them on a journey to defend themselves while watching the Ukraine, and Israelis defend themselves and the geopolitics that went with it. They obviously decided not to trust the west with making a lot of needed stuff, instead making most of it in house or obtaining it locally from Japan or Korea. The west has a tenancy to withhold things needed due to politics.
Yes, and this is an excellent story to make one realize that socializing protection is the worst way to go; if such a fatal mistake could be made so close by, then any allies should be kept as shallow as possible. Don't go deep with them and you won't be sucked into the volcano.
Well it's not necessarily always that. All to often it also just that every region has the same kind of concern. What if we get cut off? Best to try and keep as much local defense industry as possible just in case. And to makes one defense industry as good as possible, scale it up as much as possible so it has more resources to R&D with.
Maybe this could get around to an extent if everyone could trust each another enough to share R&D and industrial resources in some kind of modular interchangeable fashion. But it's a challenge for sure.
Firsr every country needs to be able to defend itsself.
I a'm all for Ukraine, but it was like the poorest country in Europe who literally wasn't in NATO. One minute they are Russian pawns, and next minute they want to be in NATO. Ukraine also was incredibly corrupt to boot.
They never had much to offer. It wasn't till they became legends by repelling the attack did Europe take notice.
Ukraine should be Europes problem honestly. It is ridiculous how litle some of them are doing. A percent increase in military spending just to fix their broken militaries isn't much!
Taiwan is a different story. Taiwan has the most advanced chips, and is in a crucial location to stop Chinas growth.
One of the reasons the US hasn't sent more to Ukraine is so it can focus on keeping stores for China in defending Taiwan.
On the flip side the geopolitical is tense. Both Taiwan and America are trying not to go over the edge with outright equipping Taiwan or making new promises that might cause China to blockade.
Anyway Taiwan needs to do as much as it can by itsself. America definitely encourages all of the countries having issues with China to arm and defend themselves first. Americans are tired of fighting for people who cannot help themselves.
Side rant. Taiwan is so focused on freaken internet, but they won't be able to power it if China blocks their oil! They need alternatives. They are on the ring of fire right? Use milimeter wave drilling to access some power for the military!
That’s an extremely important incident for everyone involved in this discussion to know about. Would you please post some links/ searchable details for the rest of us to look up?
Neither does Brazil it appears after Brazil turned Twitter off in the entire country. If we could only turn it off here in the US.
The more satellites they put up the more chance there is of the aliens crashing into them.😂😂
Space is really really big
Why would Mexicans want to go into space? There aren't any jobs for them up there.
Just kidding, I know what you meant.
But kessler @@CatskillProduction
The more likely we have a cascade of junk flying around, destroying the other satellites and making space travel really difficult
absolutely no one should trust Elon.
One of the upsides strategically for making your own starlink type constellation is the odds any enemy power could destroy enough of them to fully eliminate that network would be almost impossible. When you have multiple hundred sats working together losing any one or any dozen of them can be worked around.
If only Washington would follow Taiwan’s lead…
You're kidding, right? Biden works for China! That's well known, and unless you only watch fiction media, you ought to know that.
Our government can’t even fly its own astronauts without SpaceX. Even when they try SpaceX has to go save them. No way in hell the government would be same to build another Starlink that’s as robust, reliable, fast and affordable. Use mine just about every week on remote jobs. Huge game changer and saved me hours and hours of driving each day.
Nasa doesn't get that kind of funding. They barely take astronauts to space anymore
And do what? NASA contracted with friggin' Roscosmos to send astronauts up in Soyuz capsules because they couldn't be arsed to fix the Space Shuttle, which is how we ended up needing to be saved by a private corporation in the first place.
I would argue, given how beholden Roscosmos is to the Russian military budget, that NASA directly funded the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And you think it's a Good Idea for the same asshats who gave Boeing a green light to get two astronauts stranded on the ISS control of the assets of a company that's doing a better job of being America's space agency than America's actual space agency.
You mean like StarShield?
Reminder: TAIWAN IS A FREE AND INDEPENDENT COUNTRY 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
I watched this entire video and only at the very end did I realize it wasn't a waragraphics video
Why in the hell would you trust Elon with ANYTHING??
No one should trust Elon
Ukraine used to have nuclear weapons , to avoid proliferation or terrorist acts they go rid of them. It’s sad that today they are questioning the call. It seems Taiwan does not have any other option 😭
I won't get it unless I'm forced to. I don't want any part of my life left up to Elon's whims. He is not a trustworthy person.
No business person is trustworthy. You have illusions about business.
True, but everyone else is less trustworthy than him. The government is far worse, and his Board of Directors sucks far worse too.
Self reliance is always better if they can manage. Because relying on another country that has shafted them in the past (the US gave their UN seat to CCP, for example) is not a good strategy.
because Elon is the richest troll on the planet
12 children , he has been very busy !
Weird how Starlink suddenly became a human right after SpaceX invested all the time and money into making it happen.
Because people love to vilify billionaires & Elon is arguably the most powerful man on earth. Funny thing is Elon always outlines exactly what he’s planning on doing ahead of time and the rest of the world tries to catch up when his company is already dominating everyone.
And all the griping over it literally came about as a result of Ukraine thinking it was entitled to not pay its internet bill. Predictably, the people who also believe they shouldn't have to pay their internet bills came to Ukraine's defense. The grand irony? Once the media's ADHD kicked in and they found something else to ruin, the Pentagon inked a $1.8 billion contract with Starlink for continued service, and thus Starshield was born.
SpaceX didn’t invest all the money. US government has invested billions of dollars into SpaceX
The Pentagon pays for Starlinks Ukrainian coverage. Starlink and Space-X, can be nationalized by the Pentagon, sooner the better.
Starlink? I've got the PS4 version and the Switch exclusive Starfox Edition. Bought either one for 5 bucks from the bargain bin at Saturn in the Koblenz Forum. Of course, both fully sealed, with the starship, pilot figurine and guns. For that price not bad a game and really a collector's item.
I'm a Taiwanese, many Taiwanese do admire Elon Musk.....before he gets involved into Ukraine-Russia and China vs Taiwan issue. We learned that he's a businessman eho target China as his future interest, we do know how much interests you can get from China, many Chinese manufacturing companies all have Taiwanese capitalists behind them, we know the money smell good in China.
So what is Elon gonna do? We already know, Russia is not a large consuming market, therefore not helping Russia will not hurt Elon as much.
But Taiwan and China is different, when you choose to help Taiwan, China will very likely ban you from doing business with China, and Elon wants to grow his company, he will choose to help China if China asks him to, therefore even though Elon helped Ukraine with Starlink, he will not do the same to Taiwan due to the interests he wants in China.
Taiwan is already aiming the next era's big thing, which is AI, but we can't just bet on only one thing, it's too risky, so space technology involved high tech especially high end chips and AI is now our target, we also want to develop our robot technology so it colabs with AI technology that we have.
Elon is great, everyone wants to be Elon, but Elon is a capitalist, you can't trust a capitalist when you're talking about national security. In America, you might, but that's because America do have a power military and global economic and political influence, any American company does not comply with US government to fit its national security needs, will be crucified.
But Taiwan doesn't not have this kind of super power to prevent capitalists screw us over their huge interest in China, so we need to play our game differently and carefully and smart, one mistake will kill us.
We also have a huge interest to the globe, which is high end chips that powers all the high technology we have now, we know the only way to keep us safe, is to make ourselves to have irreplaceable value to many powerful countries, then it will not be easy for them to cut us off, once we have mutual interest, we're already gaining a shield, and this is how Taiwan survives, South Korea, Japan are the same, we all know we need to do things like this keep us valuable so we're not easily getting attacked, because attacking us equals affecting many powerful countries' interests.
Nah, you smell Chinese propaganda undercover. 100% this is a post made in China.
@@eneagiordano7183 What appears in China is not the actual person Elon Musk; it must be AI.
On the day Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump, who praised Putin, was also an AI. There is no way there is such a stupid person in the United States, let alone a person running for president.
As they shouldnt. Elon is like a dumber, more socially awkward Lex Luthor.
Well said!
Sort of a 'Lex Luddite', if you will...
@@vr6one 🤣😂👍👏
@@vr6one About the man that has the vision for launch, Tesla, and Starlink.
Starlink is cash flow positive. Soon it adds cell phones. Taiwan should negotiate with a provider (e.g. OneWeb) instead of reinventing the wheel.
Very accurate. Just wait until Elon starts taking about peach tea and tries to hand feed someone jolly ranchers. Fun fact, Elon is bald. Google old photos. Money can buy a great hair transplant.
Taiwan are smart people ,they build a contingency Plant in ARIZONA , so in event of a war ,the TAIWAN SEMI CONDUCTOR will still continue production . And US will never leave Taiwan in event of war.
Would suggest they team up with Japan and S. Korea.
Very clickable thumbnail!
Musk stopped Starlink when Ukraine launched their naval drone against Russian ships
Starlink are not small or qubesat and are in low earth orbit. Also i don't trust elon
That's awesome! You're so busy not trusting a particular person that I bet you'd walk right into someone's grip a billion times worse.
@@bradallen1832 I probably would 😲
Leaving out that Statlink was shut down in Ukraine because they were engaging in an agressive attack in what has been Russia occupied territory since before the war rather than defense is quite the omission
Simon is the most eloquent presenter on RUclips on topics that I didn’t know I wanted to know about.
We need more Starlink competitors, I would prefer a decentralized one but hey even centralized is fine as long as we have more choices.
Elons own children can't trust him, why should anyone else.
Huh?
@addicted2monster88 all of Elons adult children have spoken about how self centred and neglectful he was, he disowned one for being trans, the peak of untrustworthy parenting no? Even if you disagreed you wouldn't disown them
America doesn't trust Elon Musk...
Hard to trust man who promised full self driving 10 years and no result. Now naming that crappy product as smart summoning is crap like the crappy leader too
😂😂😂😂😂😂 clown
Elon is a ptsd guy
@@simplemechanics246 I mean, can you come up with it then?
SpaceX has engineers and scientists who are Taiwanese-Americans. Taiwan can attract them to help out with Taiwan’s satellite and rocket programs.
It really sucks that Elon would side with chicoms rather than free people of Taiwan.
Taiwan isn't a country, it own constitution call Taiwan a province of China. seperatist do not represent the will of the people, if they do, the constitution would be changed by now. why would Elon side with a bunch of rebels that isn't even supported on their island?
As a long time Tesla stock holder, no one should trust Elon Musk! By the way, TSMC could cut off the chip supply to Elon Musk too?
You know, Simon has turned from Fact Boy into a News Anchor so gradually, I didn't even notice...
I really do love these newer format videos though :)
if Simon has abit of brain he will realised Taiwan doesn't have a rocket. even Korea struggles to launch it rocket, what Taiwan is doing is hiring someone to launch one for them. that's a very different thing from building their own network...
Taiwan is smart enough to build its own systems including starlik like systems
125 a month here, I still can’t afford that but I see the line fly by all the time
hello 125 a month 👋 . mikkey gallos here
The trains of satellites are from recently launched batches, once they're in place they are far less visible, and a fair bit of work has gone into making them as invisible as possible
Lets hope they get it working, feel there is a need for a different viable option.
The sense of entitlement and jealousy are strong in this video and the comments. Musk is American, a person nationality can be made by choice and not locked in by birth, as a migrant too, I identify as the nationality of my adopted country, not my birth country. Commenting otherwise is disingenuous and frankly, insulting.
Musk has also put his money where his mouth is and reinvested his own money into Starlink, it is a private enterprise, choice of who to sell services to is largely the right of said enterprise. Anyone could have (some have tried) created something similar with existing technology, no one has the true political will (OneWeb) or are willing to put in enough resources to achieve that goal. What is the incentive to innovate if one has to expend tons of personal risk to develop something only for someone to attempt control of your project? There is one reason why the USA draws so many innovators, the climate is there to do that.
The proven concept is there, make something suitable for oneself or put up. Taiwan looks like they are going to try to create something they have strategic control in. If a country wants to create a hardened military constellation? Go and do it, or negotiate an acceptable solution with existing providers like the US Military has with SpaceX.
Musk as lots of faults, he is human, but the random slights and bashing does not advance the narrative. At the very least he has shown the world what can be done in space as a private enterprise, what has anyone else done?
Well, Arianespace has acknowledged that partial reusability is a Good Idea. Unfortunately, they can't be arsed to implement it for themselves until sometime in the late 2030s. China, of course, is trying to carbon copy Falcon 9 and is predictably flubbing it (as expected). America's traditional defense contractor launch providers are job programs first and foremost so they can't be arsed to work at SpaceX's pace either. Blue Origin still can't get it up to orbit. Rocket Lab's not the least bit interested in competing in SpaceX's weight class, and the Russians have more immediate problems than trying to keep prestige projects like Roscosmos afloat with what little they can squeeze out of their military budget.
Ironically enough, SpaceX has no impetus to lower launch costs beyond Musk's drive to get to Mars simply because they've already cornered the market with Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy. And from the US military's standpoint? Musk being in control of Starlink is a small price to pay for SpaceX hemorrhaging funds to keep Starlink operational (versus, say, NASA or the Pentagon hemorrhaging funds to keep Starlink operational), especially as they're far more interested in Starship's foreseeable capability for same-day airlift capacity to anywhere on the planet. I figure if SpaceX is willing to sell spare Starship+Super Heavy combos to the US Air Mobility Command, they'll let Musk retain control of Starlink regardless of however much the politicians and the fake news media complain.
heres a thought when you want something for yourself dont expect others to give it to you. if you want starlink and dont want the bs behind it build it yourself.if you hate twitter use other platform if you dont like elon, dont use his stuff, dont expect to get freedom if you're just renting.
The Starlink/SpaceX shareholders, that’s funny, they’re both privately owned companies unavailable to buy any shares on the market
That doesn’t mean there aren’t shareholders. You can be a shareholder of a private company
Love from Taipei 🇹🇼
No TSMC, no high tech chips, no starlink, no Tesla, no space x. Get it Elon Musk?
Hes not loyal to them and shouldn't be. Its logical and smart they build their own. Starlink has finally given us reliable internet here in New Zealand.
Giving Elon Musk a U.S. passport was like letting a poisonous snake into our house. Now we have to watch Elon like a hawk to make sure he doesn’t harm us.
Smart people. Won't be surprised if a European alternative won't emerge as well.
The US Government could just simply take control of Starlink by seizing it from SpaceX if Elon starts wanting to play geopolitics.
Given the Ukraine situation, there has been some rumors about the US military developing of taking control of Starling should it come to it. They are just rumors but, given the money American taxpayers have actually given Musk's companies, well...
They already should have in my opinion
That sounds a lot like communism/socialism. Privatization of private business is frowned upon in democratic society’s .
@@Jameson1776 that’s because you people think everything is socialism. lol look up the word. If it’s awarded government money and in contract with the company then it has to maintain the guidelines otherwise it takes the risk of being seized
@@Jameson1776 The American taxpayer has footed the bill for a lot of his startup work. In times of need the Government expects the use of the system for itself and it's allies. Musk wants the American military to adopt and use, you think they are going to do so, when the system is owned by someone who changes his mind on a whim?
Having a reasonably laid-out low-orbit data network could potentially be a lifesaver when a war breaks out on the island. Especially since the undersea data cables can be easily located and cut by China. However, it is also pretty vulnerable to countermeasures. One way is China could build their own low-orbit satellite network that's more numerous and powerful than Taiwan's. In times of war, they could all be broadcasting noise in the exact same frequencies Taiwan's using, effectively jamming the signals.
All that space debris, the internet ain't worth it
If you want your military systems to continue to work even when musk decides he loves your enemies. You need an alternative to starlink.
It has to be managed properly, just like anything. I'm sure you don't dump your sewer in the streets and throw your trash on the ground like some low class societies. (Or do you?)
@@bradallen1832 lol it depends on which US city you're speaking of
pilling up
That's the fun thing about low-earth orbit. Kessler syndrome isn't really a Thing to worry about compared to all the junk floating around from the cold war space race. There's still enough gravity and air resistance at the altitude Starlink operates at that the satellites will eventually burn out their Hall-effect thrusters. Five years is the estimate for how long a Starlink sat can stay up there til it loses its fight against gravity.
There are a bunch of countries in the region that might want to get involved. Japan would be a particularly valuable partner as they already have launch capabilities. Also worth noting that if Taiwan is developing their own launch vehicle, especially if it's a smaller one (like Rocket Lab's Electron), that is essentially just a ballistic missile. So there might be other benefits to Taiwan's defence beyond the comms infrastructure.
I have Starlink... Had it since beta in my area... It's been great in the nearly 4 years I've had it...