How do you feel about Osprey games in general? Just found out about them and both Pressure and Paleomythic seem like very cool settings to have in your back pocket even for other systems.
They make high quality books and a lot of the games are very interesting settings or mechanics. Some games get great support whilst others get almost nothing. Jackals seems to have a lot of support. Sadly they often sell pdfs at a high price, but don't bundle it with the hardback. Thankfully the pdfs can be found on dtrpg and sometimes at cheaper price vs direct (same with Amazon for physical). Overall I like them but hope they commit a bit more to the products. I don't need extra physical books but PDFs would be nice
@@trebormills Let me add that I've just discovered Osprey's Kindle products... and they are amazing. They are actually native Kindle format rather than the trash PDF-on-Kindle books, which are awful on any screen size except the larger tablets. I don't know about Amazon UK Kindle book pricing, but the US pricing for PRESSURE (for instance) is about US $9.99... which is much less than the PDF price ($17.50 on dtrpg). The same holds true for much of Osprey's library. The Kindle version is reasonably priced for the quality of gaming material. Most importantly, it's a native Kindle format. Meaning, I can re-size the text and re-flow the pages to fit on a small device, like a mobile phone. That alone is worth the price of admission. It's AMAZING to have native Kindle format roleplaying books that I can carry and read in a mobile phone while I'm on the train or whatever. Skip the PDF. BUY the Kindle format, IMO. I can't say enough good things about Osprey's Kindle books for those of us who like digital format.
Mixed feelings on pressure. Undoubtedly loved Those Dark Places for its lethal and gritty atmosphere, but undoubtedly a flawed system Kind of annoyed they removed the 4-3-2-1 stat spread and went for point buy instead, I honestly found it a lot more entertaining *forcing* players to make that difficult decision of choosing what skills to be good/bad at. With point buy, generally everyone will prefer to make their character's more level and less interesting Otherwise, the game is better in some places, worse in others... Which i just realized is a very effective strategy to get players to buy both, lol
Would you say it is worth to get both of them or just Pressure? I had originally played those dark places but didn't buy it because I didn't like the lack of character options and advancement, would you say it's still a worthy purchase for the lore (what little of it was in it anyway) or should I just get Pressure and be done with it?
I feel Pressure has more lore and playable options and as such is the sensible pick up. Having grabbed yourself a copy you need to consider if you'd rather spend the money on the adventures rather than a lovely but mostly redundant older version of the core game. As a fan I would get both but the sensible option is not to, just get Pressure and port across what you can from TDP. However, if the pdf goes on sale later.....then I would grab TDP as it has a few nice extras (nice to have but not need to)
@@trebormills Thanks, I did enjoy TDP but I just didn't feel it was worth to get since it was mostly geared towards one shots and short campaigns with static characters, Pressure seems to have fixed that.
@@paulll47 it is still a lite game, but has options to tease out a bit more campaign play. I feel it does address some concerns people might have re TDP, although it may struggle to do epic multi year campaign play. Although I fear that is something young me did that older me will struggle to emulate. However, for a shorter campaign the rules now have options to develop the PCs over time and sessions, assuming they don't pick a fight and get gunned down in a hail of gunfire
@@trebormills I usually tend to run campaigns of about 6 months or a year tops, did that with other Osprey titles too (Sigil and shadow in particular lends itself really well to long campaigns), I would be happy with Pressure if it could handle a 3 months campaign tbh, thanks for all the replies btw.
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How do you feel about Osprey games in general? Just found out about them and both Pressure and Paleomythic seem like very cool settings to have in your back pocket even for other systems.
They make high quality books and a lot of the games are very interesting settings or mechanics. Some games get great support whilst others get almost nothing. Jackals seems to have a lot of support. Sadly they often sell pdfs at a high price, but don't bundle it with the hardback. Thankfully the pdfs can be found on dtrpg and sometimes at cheaper price vs direct (same with Amazon for physical).
Overall I like them but hope they commit a bit more to the products. I don't need extra physical books but PDFs would be nice
Osprey Games are awesome. Have almost all their ttrpgs.
@@trebormills Let me add that I've just discovered Osprey's Kindle products... and they are amazing. They are actually native Kindle format rather than the trash PDF-on-Kindle books, which are awful on any screen size except the larger tablets.
I don't know about Amazon UK Kindle book pricing, but the US pricing for PRESSURE (for instance) is about US $9.99... which is much less than the PDF price ($17.50 on dtrpg). The same holds true for much of Osprey's library. The Kindle version is reasonably priced for the quality of gaming material.
Most importantly, it's a native Kindle format. Meaning, I can re-size the text and re-flow the pages to fit on a small device, like a mobile phone. That alone is worth the price of admission. It's AMAZING to have native Kindle format roleplaying books that I can carry and read in a mobile phone while I'm on the train or whatever.
Skip the PDF. BUY the Kindle format, IMO.
I can't say enough good things about Osprey's Kindle books for those of us who like digital format.
Mixed feelings on pressure. Undoubtedly loved Those Dark Places for its lethal and gritty atmosphere, but undoubtedly a flawed system
Kind of annoyed they removed the 4-3-2-1 stat spread and went for point buy instead, I honestly found it a lot more entertaining *forcing* players to make that difficult decision of choosing what skills to be good/bad at. With point buy, generally everyone will prefer to make their character's more level and less interesting
Otherwise, the game is better in some places, worse in others... Which i just realized is a very effective strategy to get players to buy both, lol
Just use the 4,3,2,1 method. I think it does get mentioned in the rules at some point
Would you say it is worth to get both of them or just Pressure? I had originally played those dark places but didn't buy it because I didn't like the lack of character options and advancement, would you say it's still a worthy purchase for the lore (what little of it was in it anyway) or should I just get Pressure and be done with it?
I feel Pressure has more lore and playable options and as such is the sensible pick up. Having grabbed yourself a copy you need to consider if you'd rather spend the money on the adventures rather than a lovely but mostly redundant older version of the core game.
As a fan I would get both but the sensible option is not to, just get Pressure and port across what you can from TDP. However, if the pdf goes on sale later.....then I would grab TDP as it has a few nice extras (nice to have but not need to)
@@trebormills Thanks, I did enjoy TDP but I just didn't feel it was worth to get since it was mostly geared towards one shots and short campaigns with static characters, Pressure seems to have fixed that.
@@paulll47 it is still a lite game, but has options to tease out a bit more campaign play. I feel it does address some concerns people might have re TDP, although it may struggle to do epic multi year campaign play. Although I fear that is something young me did that older me will struggle to emulate.
However, for a shorter campaign the rules now have options to develop the PCs over time and sessions, assuming they don't pick a fight and get gunned down in a hail of gunfire
@@trebormills I usually tend to run campaigns of about 6 months or a year tops, did that with other Osprey titles too (Sigil and shadow in particular lends itself really well to long campaigns), I would be happy with Pressure if it could handle a 3 months campaign tbh, thanks for all the replies btw.