Steam in Bosnia 2019
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2019
- Steam-hauled service trains is today not normal at all in Europe but some spots remain where steam locomotives are used on a regular basis, shunting and sometimes venturing on the mainlines, as is the case in a number of collieries, in Bosnia where is video is from can you see the former Yugoslavian Railways classes 33 and the shunting engines 19-12 and 62-125 in the mains around Tuzla and the narrow gauge mainline from Banovici whit the narrow gauge engines 25-30, 55-99 and the 83-159. The tour was arranged by Tanogo Tours from 30 October to 2 November 2019.
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The Deutsche Reichsbahn built these in the middle of the war using simpler construction techniques and fewer precious metals as a stripped-down variant of the Class 50 freight locomotive in common use at the time. Even the Germans must be surprised that their service has lasted into this century
Especially with a projected 10 year service life
German engineering was (and still is ) superior. It was what Japanese engineering is today.
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In Austria, they were used until 1976. My father was working on such machines for a little time at the end of the 60's.
Its projected to be 10 years working but look at it now, still going strong even after the WW2
The worlds most prolific steam locomotive class, the German "Kreigslok" (DR Class 52) with around 21,000 built across numerous countries during WW2. So obviously quite a number are also preserved in a number of countries, in addition to Germany. I drove one at Stassfurt (steam centre), an old DR Roundhouse, with a mile or so of running line, just to the East of the Harz mountains in the old East German zone. The "official driver" was a Dutch Railways driver, who spoke English, but the Fireman was a young German who declared his loco was being invaded by the Allies, im stark Deutsch (in strong German) !
Of course Stassfurt is only a 25 minute drive east, of the famous Harz Mountain Railway (HSB) and its 100km network of steam hauled routes, subsidized by the EU as an official public transport network. The HSB use a fleet of 66tonne 2-10-2T on metre gauge, along with a couple of now extremely rare 0-4-0+0-4-0T Mallet tank locos, in all year round service. One of their lines climbs to the 4,002ft summit (by normal adhesion) of the famous Brocken Mountain. Of course the Harz mountains are probably more famous for the infamous Valpurgis Nacht (Night of the witches) every 31st of April. When for hundreds of years it has been the tradition for all the most beautiful girls in EVERY town and village to run naked through the streets at midnight. This of course attracts around a Million tourists to the area on this day every year ! Re-enactment of the classic play "Faust" on the Brocken mountain top on this day, complete with all the debauchery included (banned in Britain) allows the HSB to operate into the early hours, as its the only way to reach the summit, unless you want to be eaten by mountain lions & wild boar !!!!!
The last regular serving steamers ... not of the noble 01, 03, 11 or 18 but ordinary 52s.
But look how beautiful they are, unpolished but reliable and industrious 🙂
Hi - I'm very interested in using some clips from this video in a video I'm preparing about the BR52 Kriegslok. I have over 1.6 million subscribers and in return for permission I will give full credit and provide a link to your channel for my subscribers to visit. Look forward to your reply. Mark
Hallo Mark I have no problem whit that so you can just use what you want from my video to your video about the BR 52 Kriegslok 🙂 i'm looking forward to see it 🙂
@@Kaspertog Excellent! I'll send you the link when I've published. Thanks for your assistance.
Hey mark, saw that video! Came here looking for you, i guess i found you! Have a good one!😁👌
I must admire your drive to spread neutral knowledge about ww2 technology, incidents and how they could possibly affect our modern day lives or those lives that lived back then.
Hi Mark,we are still waiting for " Halyard mission" episode on your channel. Thanks
Very nice video, Kasper, with the steamtrains.
Thank You and Thumbs Up.
Have a nice sunday.
Greetings
Andreas
Great footage, beautiful sound. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱.
Nice Kasper i'm from Bosnia and trains like that are very rare to see in our country😋
Just visited these locomotives over Halloween this year. An experience I will never forget. Wad amazing!
tell me more please! do you have contacts there in Tuzla, and do you know if they are still operated by the coal mines?
@@krimskrams I don't have contacts I'm afraid, but I do know that a German touring company y have prga used a Plandampf for October this year with all their steam locomotives so they still must be running. They had pretty much all of them out when I went and that was last October the 28th 2021
@@matthewpalmer2049 the details are pretty scarce on the tanago website. the German description reads "as far as they are able to plan it" so it's not even certain that these locos will be operational until that point. there is no price listed either, so I guess they are still waiting for a go ahead or something. I hope I can see it for myself though
@@krimskrams when I went, 2 of the 52s were running, one is in an overhaul and one in for a boiler washout. The 33 was running, and one of the narrow gauge tenders.
@@krimskrams there are also FarRail Tours there are planing at toure to see the steam in april :-)
Sağol Boşnak Kardeş.. Güzel, tarihi görüntüler verdin bize.. Bu makinaların kıymetini bilmek lazım. Artık, yeni imalatları mümkün değil..
Beautiful images full of sensations, sounds, smells and soul
Beautiful shots! Great machines!
A pak že pára je překonaná, kdyby tomu tak bylo tak se tyhle stroje už dávno rozpadly :-) Hezké video! :-)
This is a place i could feel comfortable in. A bottle of Zmaj Pivo and these steam hauled consists!
In Sweden the last steam locomotives came out of their mobilization shed in 2008 but the last mainline use of steam had been in 1972 and the last industrial use of steam engines had been in 1978.
The best steam locomotives had been kept in mobilisation sheds to be mobilized in case of a war in Europe until 1992.
STANDBY
2022
IT IS NEXT DOOR
It's interesting to see they're using the two engines running back to back technique.
Awesome! If diesel price goes down, which I fear it won't, that could be place to visit while driving from Nordic to Greece. With that old '92 VW T4 with projected life expectancy of 10 years too. ;-)
Herlig video med damplok til overflod :-)
These are former DRB Class 52 locomotives, right?
Yes
@@l.f.32 That’s what I was thinking.
@@l.f.32 lo son la llamada locomotora de la guerra producida en enormes cantidades robusta y muy fiable diseño alemán
Beautiful engine’s
Świetne!
Szacun!
Aż trudno uwierzyć, że to tak niedaleko współczesne samochody i zabytkowe lokomotywy są filmowane razem na przejazdach kolejowych w 2019 roku.
Herlig video Kasper, mange fine klip :)
Das sind fantastisch schöne Aufnahmen. Sowas wünscht man sich hierzulande auch öfter zu sehen. 🙂
Einfach klasse. Das war 2019 hoffentlich ist das auch heutzutage noch so.❤
@@uwebunzel8913 Ja das kann man nur hoffen, zumal immer mehr dieser alten Stätte verschwinden.
Really amazing video.
as nice as it is seeing theese german ladies still operating. they do look like they are barely cleaned..... in germany you will mainly see perfectly clean steam locos.
also that at 2:12 ..... that cant be good for their wheels, keeping them locked and letting them just slide on the tracks
Germany uses steam locos for turistic trains and no tourist would ride any train pulled by a dirty engine.
The dirt keeps the rust off
Magnificent beasts. Beautifully filmed! Does anyone bother you when you are filming?
Beautiful video
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Most excellent, best clip for me wus 19:40, no holding back!!
Steam locomotives of the class 33 with many 2 axle type Es freight cars loaded with coal! This is just nice.
very legendary thank you
Greetings RUclips sent me here from Mark Felton's last operationional German WW2 steam locomotives video.
I grew up with steam train around me, back in Southern Rhodesia and Zimbabwe. I wrote about a Zimbabwean steam train in my book, Sam Edward the Steam Train, Lulu Press Ltd.
Ex BR 52 Kriegsdampflok mit Wannentender still going strong.
Gdzie są polskie parowozy a tyle ich było ,to było piękne ,wszyscy byli zdrowi i podziwiali te piękne maszyny ,a podróże z pięknym węgle zapachem mając 5 lat celowo uciekałem z domu by choć popatrzeć i posłuchać siły i prawdy ,czy nie piękne są żaglowce ,po co likwidować parowozy .Maciej z Ełku Poland.
Ostatni parowóz w Polsce wyprodukowano bodajże w 1957 roku. To se ne vrati... Janek niegdyś z Warszawy...
Hello! Very great! This trains are regular services I think?
Great job.
I hope this doesn't get too much publicity, so that these engines can work for a long time without being withdrawn for environmental reasons
I do not think you have to worry about the climate being a big factor down there, because the coal mined goes directly to the coal power plant in Tuzla as their only energy source and the economy is so bad that it is cheaper to use the steam locomotives than to replace them with diesel :-)
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These loco still working,plz provide specification ,
1:58 Didnt know a locomotive in reality couldnt wheel slip THAT FAR
yeah that engine slid a good 200 feet
I also think it was wild to see how far it slides. The reason is a mixture of carbon dust and oil that makes the rails smooth and thereby makes the train slide silently away.
@@Kaspertog and when silly buggers challenge trains at level crossings
they want to see that and tell them that was at 5kmh.
So wie es aussieht bremst der Lokführer nur mit der Zusatzbremse der Lok. Sonst wäre ein deutliches Quietschen der Bremssohlen des gesamten Zuges wahrnehmbar . Bei so einer Anhänge-Last für mich unverständlich nicht das Führerbremsventil zu benutzen und Flachstellen an den Radreifen der Lok in Kauf zu nehmen.
1:59 I take it Bethesda Softworks made this locomotive?
LOL
Are they still in service now (2022) ? I heard recently the last industrial steam in China at Sandaoling has finally ended, and Bosnia is a lot easier and cheaper to get to! I'd love to go and see it
There should still be active driving with steam in the mines around Tuzla and the two railway experience companies Tanago and FarRail Tours are planning an excursion there in 2022. The steam locomotives are only used for shunting in the mines. And about steam in China I am unsure but i believe that the last run of steam in the Sandaoling mine was ending at the end of 2019.
wow this is so awesome...are these still used in freight service there today?
yeah
Yes but only in the mines not on the main railways anymore.
Nice one Kasper love it.
New Bosnian High Speed Rail 🔥🔥🔥🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦
How come nobody's talking about the narrow gauge railway?
Superbe vidéo. Je pense que c'est à Tuzla.
SUPER
1:58 WTF
not their first time sliding into place XD
That moment when the matrix is lagging...
Fast little Tank locomotives.
muito bom
Спасиьо! Очень интересное видео!
Hi, great video and thanks for sharing this video of working steam in action in the 21st Century.
Do you know if these locos are still running in 2024? I was planning to visit if they were. Best Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
Thanks for you comment :-)
About the Bosnia Steam locomotives are there still in use in 2024 but only ad the coal mines in Dubrave, Šikulje, Banovići where there also have the narrow gauge network. The big former Germans build steam locomotives can only been seen at the coal mines in Dubrave and Šikulje but there only run whit them a few times each day inside the area. They are not used on the main railways anymore. The depot of the steam locomotives are in Bukinje, close to Tuzla, where is normaly possible to buy acsses to from the workshop manager. But if you what to have the full experience then I would recommend going on one of the photo excursions there. FarRail Tours have one in October (18.10.2024 - 23.10.2024) It was on a photo excursion I went on in 2019 and can only recommend it. Since the yield if you go down there yourself is quite small. Best regards Kasper
@@Kaspertog Hi Kasper, Many thanks for giving me the inside of what’s happening with the BR52’s on the coal mines near Tuzla. I will for sure check out the tour organised by Farrail. May these awesome machines keep going for as long as possible. Best Regards Eren
Europeans are pretty cool. Much love from America. I work with some Bosnians they're very friendly.
How come at 2:02 the side railes on the seam engine are not moviong but the train is?
Because the other side of the train's cylinder is still working properly, and the side you see at 2:02; the wheels are sliding on the tracks.
@@parachuteguy3992 - That can't be good!!
@@nightlightabcd its done on locomotives that only get used for shunting. most likely the cylinder on the right of one of their more useable BR52s is busted so they removed it from this locomotive as theres a lack of spare parts
I think the breaks are on to stop the movement, but it takes some time because of the weight of the cargo.
1:58 Deja Vu! I just been in this place before!
Da geht einem das Herz auf😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻
Can I visit the mines by my own?
Y......HOY. QUE. LOCOMOTORAS UTILIZAN ????
Why does steam come out from it from both sides close to the ground, that seems to decrease visibility why don't they put out all steam from the top
short answer: so it doesnt blow up. long answer: spend 10 minutes of your life reading about steam locomotives in wikipedia
2.20 что-то не понял, поезд движется а колёса у паровоза стоят на месте
Pretože brzdí iba lokomotíva, vagóny sú od bŕzd odpojené,robí sa to takto pri posune. S pozdravom...
Are these steam-locomotives still active?
Yes, still. They haul coal to the biggest power plant in Bosnia. They even have a facility where they maintain them so that they will remain in service for years to come.
@@heyyo162 Thanks. 👍
This video it's from 2019, wonder if they are still using those old locomotives and trains in Bosnia.
Does anybody knows?
Thank you.
The Steam locomotives are still runding but only in the mines, where most of the videos are from :-)
@@Kaspertog Thank you. One more question, is there access to where the trains are moving or passing? Would love to fly there, drive and see them work.
@@francoiselesensuelite6884 there is not really any access to the mines without permission, but it is possible to see them on the legal side of the gate in Sikulje, and from a small road at the end of the mine in Dubrave. But the runs are very minimal. I was down there with the Tanago Tour who arranged permission and extra shunting and lot of ohter things on the tour.
@@Kaspertog Excellent info, thank you very very much! I may try the tour, I may do it on my own. Appreciated it greatly.
Gospode, da li je moguće da još negde u svetu ima u funkciji parnih lokomotiva? Sad videh da ima i uskotračna železnica. Neverovatno. Gde je ovo prijatelju?
U Tuzli, kod ugljenih rudnika, valjda.
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A little shocked they drag one loco at the yard with the brakes applied 😳
The green 0-6-0's are from the USA
How do steam locomotives slide on the tracks?
These war babies are ready to battle and also
1:55 I never seen a steam locomotive just skidded alone the rails no wheels moving that is sick skills
Nope. It's awful driving is what it is.
Do they still drive in 2023?
yes
esas locomotoras son de diseño de Alemania fue llamada la locomotora de la guerra
TOP TOP TOP
with the DIESEL price going up and up AND electricity not always an option, steam might be not to bad a solution? fair enough, those old ladies had their heydays. but what about building new ones?
A good idea but unfortunately the environmental snowflakes won't let it happen
@@Scale_Slotcars_Latvia they always caan walk, take the bike, very green, very healthy...
lol nogle ordenlige brød :)
Somehow I doubt these things have undergone their FRA mandated 15 year rebuild…
There is no FRA in bosnia.
get lost they work
no hard hats
looks like every body watches each others back
also to make a living to eat
This its kriegslok, its a ww2 German locomotive, im surprised they still managed to restore it
This is so cool! Only thing missing is a caboose.
cabooses aren't used in Europe
caboose is a very american thing. you only have the British equivalent, the brake van at best, the rest of Europe as pointed out dn#t have this
They had guards vans, but those went away after WWII, with automatic brakes.
@@krimskramsthe continent would have freight vans which carried ordinary cargo and had a lookout. I don't how they worked it in the vacuum break era Britain only went fully air in 1970
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Thats is ww2 trains i cant bellive them that they are still working
And is still working in 2022 ;-)
1:58 wheels skidding omg...
Bringem back. Much cheaper !
Former yugoslavia
WELL........TODAY..THERE ARE STEAN LOC.?? WORKING....
looks like a German Loco...?? maybe it was german?
yes a BR 52 Kriegslocomotive most likely taken by the soviets from the germans in ww2
@@tramlink8544 explains why many of them have red wheels
Wow , not even diesel power ? But then you have a coal mine and many unemployed rail workers.
Whose watching this in 2024?
I'm surprised to see those ex-german built kriegsloks still in service
If you take care of anything mechanical itll last a long time
ClassicGamingDude yes but German Engineering is renowned for their reliability. I think the same mine has an American S100 & those were notorious for firebox issues later in their life
It's German locomotive in Russian colors for locomotives in a country that has been under the rule of turkey(or ottoman empire)for 300ish years...
Das nenn ich mal nachhaltig ...
Dovedite turiste zaradit cete kao na uglju ! 🙂
E to bi sigurno bila velika zarada. Samo da obezbjede strancima da mogu doci da vide i snime vozove.
@@Zorica1003 Treba uredit lokomotive i dovesti u stanje da mogu vozit putnike, da prodju tehnicki pregledi uredit 5 putnickih vagona. Lokomotiva i vagoni su interesantniji od bilo kog aviona ili rakete.
@@neutral1950 Tako je. Ja mnogo volim vozove. Bila sam vrlo mala, ali se sjećam, kada sam putovala iz Bosne za Srbiju sa takozvanim “Čirom”. To se ne zaboravlja. 😁Kada sam došla kod svoje sestre, bila sam sva crna po licu i rukama, jer sam otvorila prozor i gledala prirodne ljepote. Oh bože, kakva sjećanja.
@@Zorica1003 Danas ja ista stvar Ljudi su odusevljeni o djeci da i ne govorim. Vlak cujes 3 km u dolasku Svi su uzbudjeni. Dozivljaj !
@@neutral1950 Mogu zamisliti. To je stvarno doživljaj. Na žalost, to ne mogu vidjeti, ovdje gdje sada živim.
Pozdrav. 🙋♀️
Superbe vidéo!! Ca "défriserait" un écolo-bobo !!! et ces véhicules sois-disant non polluants.... J'imagine une loco à batterie....
wondwefull, turn to ferrovie dello stato italiano FS fondazione fs
HANS GALJAARD MOBIEL
1:59 *cringe*
No, that's awesome
LOL
What happened there?!
@@Honeydwarf85 cylinder delete. the right cylinder was most likely donated to another locomotive and this ones only used for shunting
@@tramlink8544 No, the breaks are on to stop the movement, but it takes some time because of the weight of the cargo.
Wspaniałe Kriegslok'i.
И это европейская страна!? Жесть!
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br 52
Kreigslok
The people (male OR female) who keep these running deserve a cushy retirement.
Female?
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 YES actual child bearing FEMALES.
Nice Kriegslocks