This is the MNT Reform, and I'd like to thank MNT Research for letting me borrow one for a few weeks. Full video: ruclips.net/video/_DA0Jr4WH-4/видео.html
Before this comment, I had to look at your terminal to see what this laptop was: "Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux on MNT REFORM" It goes for about 2096 Euros with an LS1028A CPU with a pair of Cortex A72 1.5 GHz cores, 16GB DDR4 RAM, along with 2TB NVMe SSD and a Wi-Fi card.
Well, they are 18650s but not the most common 3.7V lithium ion cells. They're LiPo chemistry which is better suited to longevity over multiple cycles edit: LiFePo4
Hacking is an international thing, some hackers from certain countries are more known but this doesn't mean they're the best. Hackers learn from each other everyday and connect from all over the world. It's like asking which country has the best food and the best people.
All the schematics being included to aid in repair and modification reminds me of how all Soviet computer devices had to come with a complete user service manual and very detailed schematics.
I built my first one in 90. Yeah, we had schematics in journals and stuff, but they were extremely difficult to come by. So were the parts. Also, I had to manufacture the circuit board at home. Yes, it's doable, but not fun at all. Then you have do all the coding works.. Kids these days have it waaaaay too easy.
I like that you used the original definition of hacker from the 1980s. The original definition was for someone who got things and/or machines to do functions they weren't original intended to do.
@TempName525 i dunno. It feels like compromising performance for the sake of "looking like a hacker" is not a hacker thing to do. 😅 Like. A. Why wouldn't you want a laptop that does more even if you don't plan to run games on it. And B. Why wouldn't you run games on it? And C. What do you do with a laptop if not for games and not for brute forcing stuff? Like, even if you're just coding, I assume you'd want a laptop that can multitask and handle a number of tabs on your browser simultaneously. I'm not a hacker, tho. but it seems to me that a hacker whose laptop is specifically and compromisingly built to look like a "hacker's laptop" is focused more on looking like a hacker than being one.
Is having everyone carrying a computer in their pockets, really a good thing? In the last 20 years.. Did it educate people? Did it solve the energy problem? Did it feed the poor? Did it save the nature? Did it make us more social? Did it make our lives better? Did it makes us better human beings? Or did it make us better slaves. Stuff we don't really need... Problems that don't really need to be solved... Resources that'd be better if spent on actual needs... And there're things waiting around the corner, which definitely will wake us up into a nightmare of a life... You're still right though. The RISC architecture quite changed everything. It really helped our lives "reduced" into something less...
@@teamredstudio7012BECAUSE IT IS WORSE! That's the name Reduced Instruction Set Chip versus CISC - Complex Instruction Set Chip on IA32 & IA64. The idea with ARM and others micro-controllers is their simplicity to do low level coding. Way easier to implement custom stuff than effectively use all the bells and whistles CISC-s provide. Imagine some don't even have DIV (division) instruction implemented. Not to mention handling floating point numbers in general.
I love how you use the original meaning of hacker here. Before it was a word plastered on cybercrime,it was mainly used to mean people who take technology into their own hands either building a different way to do something, or breaking something down and sharing how it's done. Gods thinking about the Hacker Manifesto makes me feel old, and that was before i was born.
@@steveheist6426 Just one God. Though it is impossible for us to gain information of a God entity. If you DO come across information about God or find out that there are more than one, let me know. Meanwhile get used to indeterminism of physics and the impact of life on even the stellar mechanics etc. and the imprecision inherent to measurement and sensitivity analysis. Further make sure to watch Sagan's Fourth Dimension explanation. God bless you and I hope you will be successful in your pursuits.
I mean, manifesto definition has more “crime” associated with it than the original MIT definition you’re talking about… hackers have always pushed things past their “allowed”/“legal” limits, though
That clear back with all the wires and batteries visible will mean you will *never* be able to take it on a plane without an extensive interview with the TSA...
@@1TW1-m5i You would be surprised at what some smart psychopath that has all the time in the world to tinker can do in a basement. The lunatics that build such devices tend to take pride in their work and will go out of their way to make it look organized and extremely complex.
I caught up with one of the team who builds these a couple of days ago - so much care goes into designing and assembling them. So awesome to see their project pop up on RUclips!
RISC architectures did indeed change everything - partly because their concepts got incorporated into AMd64 and then intel x64 bit chips. Mostly because ArM chips are used by nearly everyone on the planet for their smartphones
@@auratus-corvusyour comment doesn’t answer the question, right to repair and open source software is something everyone who was asked that question and understood what it meant would be in support of. Unfortunately we live in a society where they can turn around and use the money they earned selling tech to force us to give them even more money by buying politicians. Who hates greedy politicians and monopolies? I bet it’s not just hackers. And Apple was far from the first to use this tactic they are just the most hated in this subject because they use the advantages every big tech company has better than anyone else. A hacking mind would build their own laptop, not buy some junk marketed to them, thats how this started.
Hacker. It's nothing illegal. It's simply somebody who plays around with hardware and software. The computer repair place in my town is called the Hackery.
@@eli3082 It became a "hacker" thing when devices became more of a status symbol than a tool. Being able to buy an entirely new phone when (what should be) an easily replaceable part breaks means you are wealthy. Caring about right to repair is poor-person moves. (more like fiscally-responsible-person moves but you know that narrative doesn't get pushed)
Because big tech can't control it, ergo anything non-proprietary becomes a threat and will be targeted. Just like people who refused the vaccine. THEY want to control the information stream because THEY are terrified of losing control.
People literally dont even know what they're missing when we say, "right to repair." Even a taste of the concept should be blowing minds wide open, and I'm glad this short is trending.
Unfortunately we have become nowdays too comfortable with a “fast" lifestyle where everything must come instantly, nothing ever lasts, everything is replaceable (it applies for the material/economic domain, as well as for social one). Been living in a world severely numbed by social media, it is hard for this kind of tougth to shine. We have been conditioned to behave mostly like consumers, and while consuming resources/info/services is part of being alive, too much of this leads you to a meaningless perception, because you are missing that self-sufficient accomplishment of being capable of produce yourself, create yourself. Repairing doesn't seem like a creative process at first sight, but it often involves solving problems and that requires your creativity. Solving problems will gives you a type of fulfilment you won't get by buying “brand new" and while it may sound counterintuitive, it gives a deeper value to the things we “own", you appreciate what you maintain not just because of a monetary value, but because of the part of you invested in it.
bro fuckin A! i developed a love... maybe an addiction to rat rodding litterally everything from electronics to vehicles and my own tech and things that dont exist but should... and i just scavenge and reclaim materials and for free most the time and much better quality and without big brother creepin. im a qu few years ahead of the publc. but sure af not the real ones with the actual power.. n it isnt the gov... they wont allow us to improve our technology to liberate us from the status quo of clownshoes of the black gold.. theres actually a law that makes it illegal for any of us to invent something and patent which it could be any sort of Zero point tech or whatever it may be to end terrible rerun of like a bad reality tv.. yea they will throw you in prison for inventing and patenting something beneficial and confiscate your patent and tech as well as fine you hefty $... fuked up shit happens when idiocracy happens to be the playbook haha but hey.. its got electrolytes!
@iwams1 this is a seriois exaggeration. _Some_ laptops are serviceable. Usually just SDD and RAM though. Chromebooks even add roadblocks to _prevent_ people from rooting, reformatting and/or reusing them, their components, screens, etc...
We are, unfortunately, a minority in the matter. I used to work for Asurion. The average customer with laptop/console/phone issues does not care about R2R, they just want their shit fixed.
@@istvancsap3513 The schematics make it possible for anyone to add hardware. If the owner can't use it, there are others who may help. It will also be pointless to add DRM chips that prevent you from doing what you like if the hardware and firmware is open, it's just go go around restrictions that is forced on users even if no law apply. The user will not have any problem to get it repaired either.
I've upgraded my Toshiba satellite l300 over the years, vista era machine 2008-2009. 1980x1200 screen(dual channel cable needed), 2Ghz to 2.8Ghz then to 3.06Ghz c2d, 320hdd to 256gb SSD for boot, 1tb HDD in odd bay, internal WiFi +Bluetooth combo card, 2gb to 4gb to 8gb ddr2, 12 cell battery. It's heavy and the igp is weak but it works for general internet and office stuff, more so that later dual core netbook type laptops.
so what cpu options does it have besides a raspberry pi? can you have any brand cpu intel amd or any arm based cpu option because that would make it seriously amazing if it has those cpu options
I really hope this trend catches on within the niche side of laptops. Competition is honestly just what the Framework (as a concept) needs to go from novel to incredible.
When it's all set up to be made cheaply and sold high end, and we all allow the market to stay that way, there is no hope for competition anywhere. It's obsolete at this point, competition. If everything is a monopoly and everybody just accepts and purchases JUNK with defects, and no one DEMANDS quality and efficiency, anymore, you're going to have NO true competition. They have us stuck and having no choice really, it's the way they like it. Smartphones for example, a brand new I phone costs $10 to make for the company. They charge over $1000 and people GLADLY pay it.....until we get our braincells back as a society, nothing will change but for the worse.
Definitely neither a joke nor a scam. It is quite expensive (thus my last line "not for everyone"), but my hope is MNT has the runway to make progressively better OSHW laptops. Their main design goal is neither "beat Apple" nor "make inexpensive", so it is only for a certain type (someone who loves OSHW, and has the spending money and patience for this thing).
@@AtmatanIt's not a joke nor a scam. it's just a niche product. And the issue with niche products are they are often way more expensive than products way mass produced...
@@TheDeathmail Weird. My flipper zero is a pretty niche hacker device that seems to do more with less and for less cost than this garbage laptop that pretends to be open-source as a marketing ploy to exploit undereducated consumers. My CrowPi, an equally repairable and modular device, is also just as cheap as the flipper is. Also, the cyberdeck I built myself just so happens to look a lot like this laptop does, and it only has $100 USD worth of parts on an x86 sbc with more power than anything you can put into this supposedly open-source device. I'm not seeing my guy. This seems like nothing more than a way to exploit the right to repair hype train that's barely even started gaining proper traction. Nothing more. You need to take some media literacy classes and learn how propaganda works because you're operating on deficient software.
@@firstname-qq3xp Framework is a line of modular laptops with end-user repairability & modern specs to handle modern computing tasks. So like, this homebrew laptop but on steroids essentially. The only point of benefit for the homebrew would be in the sourcing of parts, since modules for Framework must be sourced from them whereas the homebrew could theoretically be sourced from the scrapyard.
Yes! Glad to see some *positive* coverage of the Reform for once. Ars Technica absolutely blasted it for silly reasons, and the comments section there was utterly disappointing, with seemingly zero appreciation for repairability, visibility, anything that makes this laptop so nice. It does feel a bit shameful to put hardware in it that uses binary blobs though :x (like almost any modern wifi card)
It's impossible to not put hardware with binary blobs. You would have to design a RISC-V CPU implementation and print all of its schematics, and if you want to be anywhere near a low-end commercial CPU you would need tons of money.
@@thev01d85Because the point is not to have something fancy, but rather something to tinker with, to customize, to experiment with, a project box. You are free to go with a Framework if you likez in that case it's not something for you and/or your interest.
This just makes it easy to do what I am already going to do anyway with any laptop, machine, or anything else I own. Everything is serviceable if you're determined enough.
@@JeffGeerling"More open"...thanks, I'll stay with proprietary"solutions", like Windows. Where every new release is "more bug-free" and "more perfectly secure".
thinness of laptops are the most useless aspect of them. In fact it is making them less useful. A little thickness would be better for the interior design. Nowadays engineers are very limite in what they can do inside the laptops
most of the latitude keyboards feel like trash, who would want to mod that onto a development laptop xD grab a cheap replacement keyboard from the t440-t470 laptops and your golden 👌
The media have forever ruined the meaning of the word hacker, hacking back in the 70s and 80s (and even the 90s ??) was so much more than what people think hacking is now.
You're thinking of the wrong definition of hacker. He even says not like the movie hackers. He's talking about the original definition of hacking. Not the breaking through computer security type of hacking.
Most top programists i know use fucking old 10 years PCs and trash company laptop shitboxes. They use 20 years old phones. The guys that are top at reverse, made hacks back in the past while being a kid, wrote own game engines, login - game servers from nothing. Can tell possible exploits in games after touching them for 5 minutes. Its not hardware that gives you privacy, its the soft and being smart...
@@tinkerer67 Apple has always been more anemic in the spec department. Now, they've made their own silicon (which comes with it's own problems), but back when it was still Intel based, they always lagged behind (and for the money their systems cost, you could easily build your own/get a barebones model made to higher specs). As for crashes, a lot of them came through (as an IT guy) in a state where if it was any other system (non-apple) I could've fixed it within minutes, but now it was a couple weeks, because it needed specific parts. Things didn't improve when they married their SSD's to the mainboard, soldered the RAM onto the mainboard, and implemented a bunch of sensors that are married to the mainboard, each of them failing rendering your system effectively bricked. Sorry for the book I wrote here, haha.
The speaker part reminded me of a funny story. Several years ago, around 2012, my aunt gave my older sister an old Kindle, with a built in speaker. My aunt left some music and books on it too in case my sister wanted to read/listen to those. My sister left it in her bed most of the time. One day, we start hearing music, sort of distantly. This wasn’t that strange because we lived near a bar that would fairly often play loud music. But we opened the window, and the music didn’t get any louder… My siblings looked through the blankets and found that the Kindle was playing Pokémon music all to itself. No one was on the bed, so we don’t know how its buttons got pushed.
Still waiting for gaming laptops with low-profile, hot-swappable, mechanical switches. Even if it has to be a little bit thicker. Imagine a laptop with Lofree x Kailh Hades switches.
I don't care how sleek a MacBook looks. I don't care how flashy Alienware/Dell, MSI any of those companies make their laptops. THIS is the coolest laptop in the world.
Ngl. Actual hacker laptops require a lot of resources to brute force and break passwords and along with other sensitive data. This is more of a tinkerers laptop, which I'm still 10000% game lmao
Nah. Hackers will just use scalable cloud services like AWS EC to spin up and break whatever like a rentable super computer. Then they can use their 2012 GoodWill Chromebook dude mentioned above lol
The amount of people in the comments who don’t know that a hacker isn’t just some dude with a thinkpad powning corporations hurts my soul a little. That laptop IS a hacker’s laptop by definition.
This is the MNT Reform, and I'd like to thank MNT Research for letting me borrow one for a few weeks. Full video: ruclips.net/video/_DA0Jr4WH-4/видео.html
Before this comment, I had to look at your terminal to see what this laptop was: "Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux on MNT REFORM"
It goes for about 2096 Euros with an LS1028A CPU with a pair of Cortex A72 1.5 GHz cores, 16GB DDR4 RAM, along with 2TB NVMe SSD and a Wi-Fi card.
oh man wish the vid was out already 😢
Pure expensive garbage
Woot! Can't wait!
Looking forward to the video are you going to build a desk pi super computer that could compete with the standard desktop?
The fact it has user-replaceable non-proprietary batteries itself is a game-changer but the fact that they’re standard 18650’s makes this killer
Well, they are 18650s but not the most common 3.7V lithium ion cells. They're LiPo chemistry which is better suited to longevity over multiple cycles
edit: LiFePo4
Literally all laptop batteries before the recent lipo pack trend were just 18650s in a plastic shell
...which were much harder to repair/replace without buying official batteries, especially since they were often epoxied together ;)
@@Atmatan Aren't they still 18650 in a shell even to this day?
Was thinking the exact same thing. I have at least 50 18650s... Lol
That CLICK* at the end when he closed it. I'm sold.
Which country has the smartest hackers
Nepal, I bet
Thinkpad-esque click
Everyone knows it's russia
Hacking is an international thing, some hackers from certain countries are more known but this doesn't mean they're the best. Hackers learn from each other everyday and connect from all over the world. It's like asking which country has the best food and the best people.
All the schematics being included to aid in repair and modification reminds me of how all Soviet computer devices had to come with a complete user service manual and very detailed schematics.
Wow that was pretty based of them
Interesting
Would be great today
Or else how do we expect to maintain our stuff, besides overpaying some specialized people to work it
@@KurosuGon Yeah we'll end up like the Imperium of Man, relying on cults of tech-priests to perform maintenance and repair rituals.
I built my first one in 90. Yeah, we had schematics in journals and stuff, but they were extremely difficult to come by. So were the parts. Also, I had to manufacture the circuit board at home. Yes, it's doable, but not fun at all. Then you have do all the coding works.. Kids these days have it waaaaay too easy.
@@ycfedchun Don't think that complexity decreased.
"What it lacks in performance, it gains in personality" hit a little too close to home 😭
Friendly fire 😂
Will not be tolerated@@loveadeola
@@beforedrrdprclever 😂
I'm sure your significant other can tolerate you anyway 😂
.. so b asicly you hae to run as barebone linux as you can, because potato hardware...
.. and then make rice videos how linux is better OS
It's like the framework laptop and a mid 2000s thinkpad had a child.
What I was thinking too. But I love the design though, looks so good
It's lacking the nipple mouse though :/
@@derkeksinator17
It's supposed to be customizable you can have one right?
bought myself a framework 13 recently, fucking excellent purchase
exactly my thoughts
I like that you used the original definition of hacker from the 1980s. The original definition was for someone who got things and/or machines to do functions they weren't original intended to do.
A hacker’s laptop is a 2012 Chromebook that they found at a Goodwill. Something that cannot be traced back to them.
bought by someone else with their cash
Only if you go by the modern, stereotype of a hacker
Lenovo Thinkpad they found used with a bunch of scratches and dents 👍
Chromebooks are awful in so many ways
Kmao
Hacker as in Hardware Hacker, but the word was misused yeah
I did not expect a "hacker's" laptop to lack performance to gain personality.
Think about it, you dont need to run games, just code. No 3d modeling or anything. You dont need much.
@@TempName525depends, for brute force attacks and shit processing power is everything
@@hugoparox If you're running a brute force attack you're most likely not running it on your personal hardware.
@TempName525 i dunno. It feels like compromising performance for the sake of "looking like a hacker" is not a hacker thing to do. 😅
Like. A. Why wouldn't you want a laptop that does more even if you don't plan to run games on it. And B. Why wouldn't you run games on it? And C. What do you do with a laptop if not for games and not for brute forcing stuff? Like, even if you're just coding, I assume you'd want a laptop that can multitask and handle a number of tabs on your browser simultaneously.
I'm not a hacker, tho. but it seems to me that a hacker whose laptop is specifically and compromisingly built to look like a "hacker's laptop" is focused more on looking like a hacker than being one.
i mean when all you need is the shell/terminal with no GUI or 3d accel to do what you need to do then is it really lacking performance then?
The Real hacker laptop is obviously a thinkpad
Yea but this look cool
The real hacker's laptop is any laptop. Just like a real skater doesn't need a $5000 board to do tricks.
Running Linux
KALI
@@nrmalgi or Arch with BlackArch repo
"RISC architecture is gonna change everything" - That's right! It really changed everything. Now eveyone has a computer in their pocket.
But back in the days they had PowerPC as RISC which is significantly worse than IA32 and AMD64
@@teamredstudio7012 ARM64 and RISC-V:
Is having everyone carrying a computer in their pockets, really a good thing?
In the last 20 years..
Did it educate people? Did it solve the energy problem? Did it feed the poor? Did it save the nature? Did it make us more social? Did it make our lives better? Did it makes us better human beings?
Or did it make us better slaves. Stuff we don't really need... Problems that don't really need to be solved... Resources that'd be better if spent on actual needs...
And there're things waiting around the corner, which definitely will wake us up into a nightmare of a life...
You're still right though. The RISC architecture quite changed everything. It really helped our lives "reduced" into something less...
You mean RISC-V ?
@@teamredstudio7012BECAUSE IT IS WORSE! That's the name Reduced Instruction Set Chip versus CISC - Complex Instruction Set Chip on IA32 & IA64.
The idea with ARM and others micro-controllers is their simplicity to do low level coding. Way easier to implement custom stuff than effectively use all the bells and whistles CISC-s provide.
Imagine some don't even have DIV (division) instruction implemented. Not to mention handling floating point numbers in general.
I love how you use the original meaning of hacker here. Before it was a word plastered on cybercrime,it was mainly used to mean people who take technology into their own hands either building a different way to do something, or breaking something down and sharing how it's done.
Gods thinking about the Hacker Manifesto makes me feel old, and that was before i was born.
God*
@@TheALPHA1550Gods. All of them. :D
@@steveheist6426 Just one God. Though it is impossible for us to gain information of a God entity.
If you DO come across information about God or find out that there are more than one, let me know.
Meanwhile get used to indeterminism of physics and the impact of life on even the stellar mechanics etc. and the imprecision inherent to measurement and sensitivity analysis.
Further make sure to watch Sagan's Fourth Dimension explanation.
God bless you and I hope you will be successful in your pursuits.
was literally about to post those words...well, the first paragraph at least.
I mean, manifesto definition has more “crime” associated with it than the original MIT definition you’re talking about… hackers have always pushed things past their “allowed”/“legal” limits, though
That clear back with all the wires and batteries visible will mean you will *never* be able to take it on a plane without an extensive interview with the TSA...
I dare someone to flip it over and go through airport security
Heh.
@@JeffGeerling I think he meant it sorta kinda maybe looks a little like an improvised explosive.
Too organised to be improvised
@@1TW1-m5i You would be surprised at what some smart psychopath that has all the time in the world to tinker can do in a basement. The lunatics that build such devices tend to take pride in their work and will go out of their way to make it look organized and extremely complex.
@@GallusCorvusthe problem is that they will have no idea what it is, will detain you and other problems could occur.
I use Arch btw ❌
I use Hacker's laptop btw ✅
Will arch even run on this thing? And will it be compatible with AUR?
@@utopify Arch is known to be extremely light weight. A clean install doesn't even have GUI. Bro, a potato from the 80's can run Arch Linux.
Even my dad's laptop which takes 4 min to boot runs arch
@@utopifyAndroid is an Arch fork. I think it'll be fine. Lmfao
I use ThinkPad btw
I'm glad I discovered your channel I have been wanting to get back into tech/coding and pin testing
I caught up with one of the team who builds these a couple of days ago - so much care goes into designing and assembling them. So awesome to see their project pop up on RUclips!
Did you mean physically of you refer to some blog or something like this.
@@wolfvash22they are friends in Berlin.
@@jimmy21584 That sounds great, do they have some open space where we can see the development of their projects?
@@jimmy21584 I have already checked your channel by the way, very interesting also, now I get why they are your friends.
Spot on loop editing!
RISC architectures did indeed change everything - partly because their concepts got incorporated into AMd64 and then intel x64 bit chips. Mostly because ArM chips are used by nearly everyone on the planet for their smartphones
Arm will run everything shortly. Data centers are already ditching x86 for arm
>Build this laptop
>Install Windows on it
> pricvecy achieved
Wait what? Windows? 💀
Better to use tails os or qubes os depending on your use case but any Linux distro is enough
Reading this brought me literal pain. Good job! XD
Ah yes, pricvecy, my favorite.
ive installed windows on a pi 4 before. coincidentally that pi broke right after that
The irresistible urge to be a cool tech computer guy living in a reality where I have trouble finding my photos file.
*adds photo to Word file
*Word doesn’t explode and ruin the formatting
Me: Hackerman 😎
Me: people are gonna think I'm so cool
Reality: nobody cares.
Tech computer guys are considered cool now?
@@svenmify idk, that’s what I’ve always thought, idk what other people think tho
@@svenmify they always were
With the right cells, you can have a total of 100 watts hour capacity (3.5A.3.6V), that's the main selling point for me.
When did having a repair friendly and open source device become a hacker thing?
When iphones became popular, probably.
@@auratus-corvusyour comment doesn’t answer the question, right to repair and open source software is something everyone who was asked that question and understood what it meant would be in support of. Unfortunately we live in a society where they can turn around and use the money they earned selling tech to force us to give them even more money by buying politicians. Who hates greedy politicians and monopolies? I bet it’s not just hackers. And Apple was far from the first to use this tactic they are just the most hated in this subject because they use the advantages every big tech company has better than anyone else. A hacking mind would build their own laptop, not buy some junk marketed to them, thats how this started.
Hacker. It's nothing illegal. It's simply somebody who plays around with hardware and software. The computer repair place in my town is called the Hackery.
@@eli3082 It became a "hacker" thing when devices became more of a status symbol than a tool.
Being able to buy an entirely new phone when (what should be) an easily replaceable part breaks means you are wealthy. Caring about right to repair is poor-person moves.
(more like fiscally-responsible-person moves but you know that narrative doesn't get pushed)
Because big tech can't control it, ergo anything non-proprietary becomes a threat and will be targeted. Just like people who refused the vaccine. THEY want to control the information stream because THEY are terrified of losing control.
People literally dont even know what they're missing when we say, "right to repair."
Even a taste of the concept should be blowing minds wide open, and I'm glad this short is trending.
Unfortunately we have become nowdays too comfortable with a “fast" lifestyle where everything must come instantly, nothing ever lasts, everything is replaceable (it applies for the material/economic domain, as well as for social one). Been living in a world severely numbed by social media, it is hard for this kind of tougth to shine.
We have been conditioned to behave mostly like consumers, and while consuming resources/info/services is part of being alive, too much of this leads you to a meaningless perception, because you are missing that self-sufficient accomplishment of being capable of produce yourself, create yourself. Repairing doesn't seem like a creative process at first sight, but it often involves solving problems and that requires your creativity.
Solving problems will gives you a type of fulfilment you won't get by buying “brand new" and while it may sound counterintuitive, it gives a deeper value to the things we “own", you appreciate what you maintain not just because of a monetary value, but because of the part of you invested in it.
bro fuckin A! i developed a love... maybe an addiction to rat rodding litterally everything from electronics to vehicles and my own tech and things that dont exist but should... and i just scavenge and reclaim materials and for free most the time and much better quality and without big brother creepin. im a qu few years ahead of the publc. but sure af not the real ones with the actual power.. n it isnt the gov... they wont allow us to improve our technology to liberate us from the status quo of clownshoes of the black gold.. theres actually a law that makes it illegal for any of us to invent something and patent which it could be any sort of Zero point tech or whatever it may be to end terrible rerun of like a bad reality tv.. yea they will throw you in prison for inventing and patenting something beneficial and confiscate your patent and tech as well as fine you hefty $... fuked up shit happens when idiocracy happens to be the playbook haha but hey.. its got electrolytes!
Its a laptop... It aint an iphone or whatever you're thinking of... Do you not know that you can open and do whatever you want with your laptop?
@iwams1 this is a seriois exaggeration. _Some_ laptops are serviceable. Usually just SDD and RAM though. Chromebooks even add roadblocks to _prevent_ people from rooting, reformatting and/or reusing them, their components, screens, etc...
We are, unfortunately, a minority in the matter. I used to work for Asurion. The average customer with laptop/console/phone issues does not care about R2R, they just want their shit fixed.
Thanks so much for this opportunity. It is our favourite online classes. 🏭
Okay, the schematics sold me 😅
what will you do with it though? you any good at soldering, or microelectronics?
@@istvancsap3513 it's a starting point to making your own components
@@istvancsap3513 The schematics make it possible for anyone to add hardware.
If the owner can't use it, there are others who may help.
It will also be pointless to add DRM chips that prevent you from doing what you like if the hardware and firmware is open, it's just go go around restrictions that is forced on users even if no law apply.
The user will not have any problem to get it repaired either.
@@istvancsap3513Believe it or not some people are capable of working on electronics.
My guy forgot that engineers exist
I am rooting for both framework and this company to succeed
Unfortunately the "free market" follows profit, not what's good for humanity and the planet, so I doubt it.
Car only jump so high always come down.
2 os 3 phases since car old.
It looks and feels old fashioned. Framework looks cute and is pretty functional/serviceable too
I've been running an mnt reform for over three years and love the thing!
no one going to talk about how smooth that loop was?
The replay transition is so seamless. Great editing skills!
Hopefully we get a long form version of this video, I'm really intrigued by this laptop!
It's coming next week!
@@JeffGeerling I can not wait to see it!
@@JeffGeerling Lovely
And after writing this message, I realised the video was already out 😁
What does it do?
hacker laptop ❎
modular laptop ✅
Waiting until "the greatest technician that has ever lived" find this laptop 😂😂
He won't :( He's already dead. He was the greatest Programmer who ever lived.
Aaaaaad we come full circle. I remember early 2000's you could put together your own lappy out of shop-bought parts. With the latest tech.
Yeah. We used to McGuyver everything back in the day. Miss that shit.
The last 15-17 years of Laptop Evolution have been a highway to hell......
I knew a guy who installed extra ram... on his Mac!
@painstruck01 dear god...
I've upgraded my Toshiba satellite l300 over the years, vista era machine 2008-2009.
1980x1200 screen(dual channel cable needed), 2Ghz to 2.8Ghz then to 3.06Ghz c2d, 320hdd to 256gb SSD for boot, 1tb HDD in odd bay, internal WiFi +Bluetooth combo card, 2gb to 4gb to 8gb ddr2, 12 cell battery.
It's heavy and the igp is weak but it works for general internet and office stuff, more so that later dual core netbook type laptops.
a hardware hacker's laptop
Me a developer thinking, did i hear it right, that dude used MacBook as an example of being a decent hardware nay , fast!!!!!!
so what cpu options does it have besides a raspberry pi?
can you have any brand cpu intel amd or any arm based cpu option because that would make it seriously amazing if it has those cpu options
I'm gonna say that from now on, «what it lacks in performance, it gains in personality», it's gonna be useful.
Lmfao 😂
Thank you for the correct and original usage of the work hacker.
I really hope this trend catches on within the niche side of laptops. Competition is honestly just what the Framework (as a concept) needs to go from novel to incredible.
I'm waiting for the public availability of a "hot swap" laptop.. where even the NIC is hot swappable. Spoofable MAC addresses standard.. 🤓
When it's all set up to be made cheaply and sold high end, and we all allow the market to stay that way, there is no hope for competition anywhere. It's obsolete at this point, competition. If everything is a monopoly and everybody just accepts and purchases JUNK with defects, and no one DEMANDS quality and efficiency, anymore, you're going to have NO true competition. They have us stuck and having no choice really, it's the way they like it.
Smartphones for example, a brand new I phone costs $10 to make for the company. They charge over $1000 and people GLADLY pay it.....until we get our braincells back as a society, nothing will change but for the worse.
@@jayst3wIf you only want to swap it because of the MAC, then look up in the hardware's datasheet how to change it.
I see Framework as an unbuyable half-measure, with having everything on USB only .
Yet billion-dollar companies say they can't use normal screws or provide schematics anymore... 🤦♂️😡🤬
“Say a lot without saying anything”
-I got you fam
We just found Louis Rossmann's newest favorite toy.
I want a full length video on it too, however 😅
At that price point he would tell you to git gud and learn how to make your own cyberdeck.
This is a joke and a scam
Definitely neither a joke nor a scam.
It is quite expensive (thus my last line "not for everyone"), but my hope is MNT has the runway to make progressively better OSHW laptops. Their main design goal is neither "beat Apple" nor "make inexpensive", so it is only for a certain type (someone who loves OSHW, and has the spending money and patience for this thing).
@@AtmatanIt's not a joke nor a scam.
it's just a niche product.
And the issue with niche products are they are often way more expensive than products way mass produced...
@@TheDeathmail Weird. My flipper zero is a pretty niche hacker device that seems to do more with less and for less cost than this garbage laptop that pretends to be open-source as a marketing ploy to exploit undereducated consumers.
My CrowPi, an equally repairable and modular device, is also just as cheap as the flipper is.
Also, the cyberdeck I built myself just so happens to look a lot like this laptop does, and it only has $100 USD worth of parts on an x86 sbc with more power than anything you can put into this supposedly open-source device.
I'm not seeing my guy.
This seems like nothing more than a way to exploit the right to repair hype train that's barely even started gaining proper traction. Nothing more.
You need to take some media literacy classes and learn how propaganda works because you're operating on deficient software.
@@Atmatantake em to school atmatan
Great concept laptop, correct use of the word "hacker", and a nice bit of video looping. Well done. 👍
The references to the Hackers movie were hilarious!
A more realistic option is the Framework laptop
how so
@@firstname-qq3xp Framework is a line of modular laptops with end-user repairability & modern specs to handle modern computing tasks. So like, this homebrew laptop but on steroids essentially. The only point of benefit for the homebrew would be in the sourcing of parts, since modules for Framework must be sourced from them whereas the homebrew could theoretically be sourced from the scrapyard.
imagine all that customizability just to run window
The Fact That It Uses 8 × 3.7 li-ion Batteries Are Incredible, i want one 👀
Puts on rollerblades - "Magic people, voodoo people..."
This is the level of customisability that windows will never see in its life time.
Where it lack in sizes, it gains in personality 💀💀
>they even customize their OWN KEYBOARD
me having a 700 dollar custom keyboard from the other side of the world.
Very cool. Open source is the only hope for the future
Exactly what I need for a working machine: Personality.
for some really techy people, being able to get to the nitty gritty without being obfuscated with proprietary code actually gives them efficiency.
Yes! Glad to see some *positive* coverage of the Reform for once. Ars Technica absolutely blasted it for silly reasons, and the comments section there was utterly disappointing, with seemingly zero appreciation for repairability, visibility, anything that makes this laptop so nice. It does feel a bit shameful to put hardware in it that uses binary blobs though :x (like almost any modern wifi card)
Ars Technica always does those. Writers on that site only think of themselves and write articles without mentioning "personal opinion".
It's impossible to not put hardware with binary blobs. You would have to design a RISC-V CPU implementation and print all of its schematics, and if you want to be anywhere near a low-end commercial CPU you would need tons of money.
this thing is nasty, why take that thick hunk of junk if you can go with, say a framework laptop instead?
@@thev01d85Because the point is not to have something fancy, but rather something to tinker with, to customize, to experiment with, a project box. You are free to go with a Framework if you likez in that case it's not something for you and/or your interest.
Ars Technica is another pure shill company, just like LMG.
This just makes it easy to do what I am already going to do anyway with any laptop, machine, or anything else I own. Everything is serviceable if you're determined enough.
“This is the hacker’s laptop. It’s not for everyone. This is the hacker’s laptop”
In that case they should call it a hacktop
By hacker i think this means "random shit hacked together that works"
He said what he had to say, right at the end, "But it's not for everyone 😂"
Raspberry pie seriously?
I wish we could have laptop cpu and gpus that were replaceable so we could have something like this that's powerful enough to be used daily.
100% open source hardware. Yes, especially with Raspberry Pi with a proprietary SoC and closed firmware xD
There are multiple options (not just Raspberry Pi), some with even more open firmware ;)
@@JeffGeerling I suspected, but Raspberry Pi is a joke when it comes to openness, with their firmware and Broadcom chips.
@@JeffGeerling"More open"...thanks, I'll stay with proprietary"solutions", like Windows. Where every new release is "more bug-free" and "more perfectly secure".
@@klausstock8020 nice troll.
@@adamjj001 Sorry... it's just that marketing lines like "more bug-free", "more open" or "more perfect" trigger me immediately.
thinness of laptops are the most useless aspect of them. In fact it is making them less useful. A little thickness would be better for the interior design. Nowadays engineers are very limite in what they can do inside the laptops
I wonder how long until someone mods a thinkpad keyboard with the trackpoint onto it lol
That would be nice; been a while since I've tried a trackpoint nubbin!
@@JeffGeerlingfyi there is a thinkpad desktop keyboard that exists
Some Dell laptops have the trackpoint as well
@@nickfury1279 nowadays, not so much iirc the last latitudes with trackpoints were 8th gen ones
most of the latitude keyboards feel like trash, who would want to mod that onto a development laptop xD
grab a cheap replacement keyboard from the t440-t470 laptops and your golden 👌
Hacking the planet is optional.
Great job on the video 👍 I suppose in the traditional way you're correct : its a laptop someone hacked together.
Its like that 'im with you for your personality' thing but for laptops
>"This is a hacker's laptop"
>not a single reason or word about hackers, just realy cool laptop
It's the part where it's open source and self-repairable/replaceable instead of being full of proprietary garbage.
The media have forever ruined the meaning of the word hacker, hacking back in the 70s and 80s (and even the 90s ??) was so much more than what people think hacking is now.
You're thinking of the wrong definition of hacker. He even says not like the movie hackers. He's talking about the original definition of hacking. Not the breaking through computer security type of hacking.
You missed it mate, you missed it. He even said "real hackers" lol
Most top programists i know use fucking old 10 years PCs and trash company laptop shitboxes. They use 20 years old phones. The guys that are top at reverse, made hacks back in the past while being a kid, wrote own game engines, login - game servers from nothing. Can tell possible exploits in games after touching them for 5 minutes. Its not hardware that gives you privacy, its the soft and being smart...
This is the dream, very easy to use, disassemble, change spare parts and modified it
I wish it had a 4:3 or 16:10 display.
Can't say I disagree! Would love 16:10
I like my laptops girth measured in inches
🥵
I like the customizability really much. ♥
Custom and hacking are not interchangeable words.
hacking is more general and includes "custom".
"Not as fast as a Macbook"
Ah, so slower than a crippled laptop. Got it.
Really? In my experience, Macbooks are faster compared to its competition, and much less prone to crashing.
@@tinkerer67 Apple has always been more anemic in the spec department. Now, they've made their own silicon (which comes with it's own problems), but back when it was still Intel based, they always lagged behind (and for the money their systems cost, you could easily build your own/get a barebones model made to higher specs). As for crashes, a lot of them came through (as an IT guy) in a state where if it was any other system (non-apple) I could've fixed it within minutes, but now it was a couple weeks, because it needed specific parts. Things didn't improve when they married their SSD's to the mainboard, soldered the RAM onto the mainboard, and implemented a bunch of sensors that are married to the mainboard, each of them failing rendering your system effectively bricked.
Sorry for the book I wrote here, haha.
That's not gonna get past TSA😂😂
The speaker part reminded me of a funny story.
Several years ago, around 2012, my aunt gave my older sister an old Kindle, with a built in speaker. My aunt left some music and books on it too in case my sister wanted to read/listen to those. My sister left it in her bed most of the time.
One day, we start hearing music, sort of distantly. This wasn’t that strange because we lived near a bar that would fairly often play loud music.
But we opened the window, and the music didn’t get any louder…
My siblings looked through the blankets and found that the Kindle was playing Pokémon music all to itself. No one was on the bed, so we don’t know how its buttons got pushed.
Replaceable 18650 batteries, sold... It's about the same size as my old Lenovo too
Still waiting for gaming laptops with low-profile, hot-swappable, mechanical switches. Even if it has to be a little bit thicker.
Imagine a laptop with Lofree x Kailh Hades switches.
The best part of this computer is that it tells you everything about the hardware and is extremely easily repaired.
Aside from the resin.
Hacker is not synonymous with Freedom.
HACK THE PLANET ‼️
Well, years ago hacker wasn't about penetrating systems, but about knowing how everything (program, computer, etc.) works
Si lo es...
HACK THE UNIVERSE
@@walnutdesert960 Not even close
I Build my own laptop with a Rock pi 5, an Simple powerbank, a Screen and a Small keyboard. I used my 3D printer for the case.
Yeah the open source is great and all, but what it's really missing are some rollerblades attached to the side of it.
Ooh, so you can easily roll it under your monitor once you have it at the desk.
@@JeffGeerling no, because it's thick enough to be a skateboard
@@paradoxx_4221 that feature would be its ultimate gimmick 😂
> The RISC architecture is gonna change everything
With RISC-V, this aged like fine wine
EDIT: ARM is RISC too
Glad the short loops fine as well. +100 for the schematics.
Surely this is called a Hacktop?
You win!
@@JeffGeerlingI raise you Hacbook
Will there be a full vid on this? :)
Yes there will! Working on that now, hopefully to post next week :)
Sweet!
@@JeffGeerling Oh, I'm looking forwards to it ^^. Please do an unfair comparison to the Framework laptop! :D
@@JeffGeerling NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have full vid... in ascii art
Only way it could be cooler is if it had a clear casing ❤️
Time to pull out my 3d printer
Running on a rushberry pi, the battery life must be CRAZY
Bring back radio shack. 👏🏼
I don't care how sleek a MacBook looks. I don't care how flashy Alienware/Dell, MSI any of those companies make their laptops.
THIS is the coolest laptop in the world.
gives old school vibes. which is cool.
Remember when risc also stood.for "rise in superior couriering"? Back in the warez days..
Good luck in the Airport with that!
Ngl. Actual hacker laptops require a lot of resources to brute force and break passwords and along with other sensitive data. This is more of a tinkerers laptop, which I'm still 10000% game lmao
Nah. Hackers will just use scalable cloud services like AWS EC to spin up and break whatever like a rentable super computer. Then they can use their 2012 GoodWill Chromebook dude mentioned above lol
@@strat5520as a hacker myself,
Using your computer's own resources is best and secure rather than using someone else.
Hackers was a great movie.
RISC is good
Use the framework laptop! its thin and its quite fast and you can customize it just like the laptop you showed here.
Real hacker doesn't own a laptop, real hacker owns them all.
Think that's a MNT laptop for those wondering.
yes €1,199.00
I wonder how many others read Mutant Ninja Turtle when they see that acronym.
I... I would just buy a Framework laptop...
Completely reasonable choice!
Totally agree
Agreed
Cause it is a proper computer for human use... Not a raspberry pi 😂
The amount of people in the comments who don’t know that a hacker isn’t just some dude with a thinkpad powning corporations hurts my soul a little. That laptop IS a hacker’s laptop by definition.