EDIT: The Klon has now been paid for. Thank you for your viewership 🙏 worth it... right... RIGHT? btw, PLEASE don't miss the jam at 12:30, I really like it
This is more expensive than my guitar, my other guitar, amp, wah pedal, another pedal, strings picks and straps. Basically this pedal is more then I have spent combined in. 2 years of guitar.
Well this video has aged well haha . It now has a million views . And the petal is 7500 to 10,000 . So you weren’t wrong about value . Hopefully you still have it lol
@@DankDynamite it definitely is like 80% there but I definitely heard a "squash" when he switched to it if that makes sense. Like the signal got compressed or something.
the Centaur schematic is available at ElectroSmash, so i built one. Being a hobbyist, i had about 10% of the parts already. Additional quality parts = $49.45 ... Hard to say how long it took to build. Maybe 6 or 8 hours (lots of double-checking, redundant measuring, keeping a clear head, etc.) That site also has an analysis of the circuitry, and it IS advanced over "standard" drive pedals. Developed by the idea man and 2 MIT engineers, it certainly focuses on keeping the audio fidelity throughout the circuitry, and promotes certain harmonics that give it its rich sound. Built by hand throughout the 90s kept its retail price at about 300+ bucks. Then the guy got tired of building them, and here we are $4000 later.
The higher 27vdc operation of the op-amp was designed for a greater slew rate, and you can hear it. And i've got an otherwise tin ear. Rather than manipulating the guitar audio, this circuit, um, caresses (?!) the signal and enriches the output. You can just tell there is something different going on in this pedal rather than just diode clipping.
Did you build it exactly the same with the same parts? I've heard a lot about the very particular germanium diodes that are apparently unattainable nowadays.
@@arthurias7693 Yes! Paid strict attention to parts and schematic. I work at a 55-year-old electronics company that has a fine selection of old components, including the 1N34A germaniums. I'm very lucky to have access to such parts, but don't fret! You can still find 1N34A germanium diodes online.
@@lucashernandez8146 That's not tax evasion. He literally can write it off as a business expense. It's not like he gets it for free, it would just mean he saves ~$500 on his tax return.
Way Huge's Conspiracy Theory is pretty much the best affordable Klon clone from my experience ab clones with the actual thing. If you are really poor the mosky horse series is good too but I would go for Conspiracy theory or any legit well built clones.
90% of everyone absolutely loves PRS. Only 15% can afford them lol. (Or are willing to save forever to get one.) I could feed my family for a 6 months for the price of a PRS.
@Richard Phillips Their SE versions are actually cheap and the quality, in my experience, has been much better than Epiphone. And I was a big Epiphone fan until I started playing PRS. I had 2 Epiphones and 2 SE's. I still have one Epi, LP Custom, but I don't touch it anymore. I always reach for my PRS SE instead.
@@ichibandude Great guitar, set up one for a friend, didn't want to give it back and they WON'T take money for it! Rats! They don't make them anymore and I Want one......waah....sniff.....
I think the klon clone mini sounded just, of not almost like the real thing. However, not playing it, can't really tell. Glad you got all the likes you needed. Thanks for doing this.
$5000... if you're multi-millionaire and can spay thousands around without blinking an eye. Even then it seems nuts. It just a guitar pedal that makes nice sounds.
The "Build Your Own Clone" version of this pedal sounds damn near 100% identical. Most people won't hear the difference. Really. There are lots of A/B videos. The BYOC version is less than $100.
@@kali3828 The Line 6 Spider is a very cheap amp modeler from about 20 years ago. It would be considered criminal in many guitar forums to have put that pedal in front of that amp.
man pedals are probably one of the most profitable goods you can manufacture next to pasta or ice cream. pedals cost literally cents in parts and you can sell em to guitar elitists for ludicrous prices. its like a million % mark up
@@frosty6845 labor for some circuit boards and screws? Apple has people in China working for slave labor to the point where they kill themselves. The labor cost is negligible and certainly doesn’t make up for the cost
@@frosty6845 pedal assembly really isn't that hard/costly especially for hand wired boards or pcb's using throughole components. There are also so many designs available online for different effects that all you would really be doing at the most is tweaking the design a bit to make it unique to you if you even wanted to.
Let's be honest, no matter what that Klon sounded like, we would still convince ourselves that it's the most amazing thing we ever heard so we can justify the price
I'm always reading, researching, writing, etc. while watching RUclips. This video actually made me stop what I was doing and just watch and listen. Great sound and great playing. Thank you!
@Paranoid Drummer Learn to know a joke, lol. I'd never buy one of those entry-level Squiers even as a mod project. The Classic Vibes, on the other hand are almost too good for their price, imo.
@@alexbowman7582 I have two Chinese ones. The contemporary strat is okay for its price but the Classic Vibe honestly feels a more quality instrument than some of the USA models I've briefly tested.
I still love my 90's Squire. Its mildly heavy, never goes out of tune (except once at a gig at Harpers Ferry) and it was my first electric. Still my go to. Though it desperately needs some love right now. A full cleaning and maybe wiring.
It is a question of, how much are you willing to pay for the tone it provides? The hardware itself is simply cheap components like any other amp pedal, given them smearing them with non transparent goop just to keep component identity hidden.
I was highly skeptical only hearing about the fabled Klon and never actually hearing it. I have to say that Klon was sweet, way overpriced, but it did sound like the nectar of Gods. Bang for the buck though....Wampler hands down achieved 95% of the Klon sound to my ears
Shootout: The Klon takes it clearly, but the little Wampler was like 96% there with it, amazingly. BackingTrack: absolutely transcendent! The tones were inspired, rich, and luscious while your playing was OUT OF THIS WORLD fantastical... so tasteful but at the same time blistering. LIT AF
Brett S there was something there in the recording that was just a touch “more” in the original like a tiny little bit of top end sizzle at the peak of each note and settling nicely as the decay began (?) ... I don’t know. May just be me. I would agree with you that anyone chasing that tone should buy the Wampler for sure. That’s what I’d buy even if they were both affordable... It sounded RAD, indeed. 🤘🏼🤩
@@jerryross821 Like he said at the end there...he felt it did something to his playing....so the Wampler may be every bit as good in sound but just didn't make the fingers flow as well. Sounded damned good to me though so I'm gonna check the Wampler out.
"There's a mystique to this pedal " Is the only word you got to say to comfort yourself after paying 5 grand for a pedal. But honestly im proud of you for having built this channel up and being able to play a 5 grand pedal for us.
The Klon circuit is a good circuit so it sounds good, but it's not magic. There's very little difference between the Klon and the Tumnus and the Tumnus isn't even a direct clone. If you want exact go get a Ceriatone Centura or another of the many boutique direct clones and don't waste $5k on a single pedal. This is buyer psychology to the max. There's no way he'd react like this if it were a blind test and wasn't looking down at a pedal he just dropped $5k on.
Yeah, seriously. Just like some of the comments where people are hearing huge differences... from a video uploaded to youtube. from which the quality is changed by youtube. and then listening to it on their phone, tablet, headphones or computer speakers.
Nailed it. Does it sound better? Maybe, but no way it sounds $5000 better. I'm sure it feels really cool to own such a fabled piece of gear, or maybe he does want to see where the value goes and resell it, but strictly talking about tone, there's no way I could ever justify that investment. Gotta say I was pretty impressed with that little JHS, though. I can't say I actually own any of their products, but I'm a big fan of the company from the way their founder Josh carries himself and sees his role in the guitar world.
There's a REALLY crappy Monet oil painting at the MOMA in SF - a no sky, no shore, no nuthin' view of "a storm at sea" - just a canvass full of c-shaped brush strokes in shades of blue and green, like he was trying to clean his brush. If you saw it at a thrift store or yard sale - you'd pass. But it IS a Monet. Worth a bleeding fortune. BFD...
No pedal is worth 5 grand. Not a one. Oh... and let's not forget he gets to write that shit off of his taxes as a business expense. All these RUclipsrs who review products do.
The Wampler sounded almost exact. The treble boost it gives adds clarity to compliment the bass when you’re on the neck pickup. This is no disagreement that the Klon is one of the best distortion pedals ever. If it was paired up with another pedal to muddy it up even more that it would still make the signal that much better. Really helps those upper notes sing with body and clarity. Great video.
@@bartendermike I totally agree. The JHS was slightly different but had all of the same great attributes as the Klon and seemed like it might run a bit hotter. The last pedal was mediocre. With that setup anyway.
I agree with that mostly too. It seemed like the Wampler lost a bit of thickness on the lower strings, though. Still sounded good and it’s capable of doing more than I could completely utilize.
I agree that the Wampler sounded no different than the Klon really from the recording anyway. How they sound raw in the room and uncompressed is a different story.
I agree. I think this video is going to make me want to buy the Wampler Tumnus. 5k for a distortion pedal is reserved for those guys who have a ton of money and the most expensive gear on the planet, but they can't play.
That tone coming from the Centaur sounds like the guitar tone of Paul Kossoff, Rory Gallagher, Michael Bloomfield, and other 60s/70s guitar maestros who were legendary "plug-and-play" guitar heroes. Your YT channel is lit! Always!
If this video actually covered the cost of the pedal then there's no reason for you NOT to have one of the original klon pedals. You're succesfully making a great living playing guitar on RUclips. That fact alone justifies you buying whatever ridiculously expensive guitar related stuff there is on Earth. I feel like it's important that you do your best to offer a balanced and honest opinion regarding overpriced unnecessary gear, if for no other reason, so you can sleep at night though. Now go buy some more crazy shit and let you tube pay for it! Lol!
That was an absolutely beautiful, phenominal guitar solo you created... and I'm not one who hands out fluff, so I 100% mean that. Keep shreddin' dude. ✌️
The wampler did sound very similar for most of the “riffs” he played but the ending notes on most of them sounded way better to me on the klon it gave those notes more character to me. The only setting I didn’t like the sound of the klon better than any of the other pedals was when he had it set to 10 o’clock. On that setting for some reason it just sounds too distorted and made the guitar play sound out of time.
The Wampler and the JHS sounded very similar to the Centaur with the JHS sounding a fair bit brighter but the Nobles pedal just sounded dull in comparison. Depending on price for the sound I would go for the JHS or Wampler but at this point the Centaur is more of an investment than a piece of music gear (a bit like bidding on Jimi Hendrix's Strat).
@@youbi179 Yeah. Super close. I was considering Ryra as well. Sounds great... but I'm leaning toward the Mythical Overdrive because it comes with the option to add some additional overdrive tone options with a toggle switch.
Love this video! It just proved that this $5000 pedal sounds the same as the $150 Wampler Tumnus. 😁 And yes, I’m sure that $5000 pedal sounds amazing in the room and makes you want to play more. I have bought amplifiers that are like that. Love what you did at 13:45! Good video, bro!
The Centura is the best clone. Looks exactly the same and sounds almost identical. I A/B’d it with a Klon KTR and it’s super close even though the KTR is different than the gold Klon.
The Nobel sounds muted compared to the other three. The JHS sounds really tinny. The Wampler is closest to the real deal. I think the Centaur sounds the best across each test, but that price tag though!!!
Bought a Tumnus after watching this and I will likely be divorced soon as well....since I sleep with it and ignore my wife. Thanks to Tyler...Jbone is Win
It's a great sounding pedal. The fuzz to distortion ratio is really nice. That being said, in the test, I liked the Nobles pedal best at max gain, but the lower gain sounded amazing on the Klon. The articulation on the Klon at that lower gain setting was pretty great.
Not sure how much of the gain character is the amp itself, but on first impression *in terms of TONE* : 4) Nobels: Okay but narrow. Dull at high-gain, but clear and nice at low. 3) Wampler: Similar to Klon but a tiny bit messier sounding, something in the lows/low-mids causing slight noise/flub. 2) JHS: Clear, tidy, would work well in a band setting. Great value. Best option for the everyman. 1) Klon: Very professional sheen. but warm, Like you would hear on a record. No weird frequencies poking out. Not worth the price, but sounds the best. JHS overall winner.
Tbh Tyler made that pedal sound good, and he will with your squier when he gets his hands on it :p Just saying if I had the pedal it would sound like $50 lmao
Yep, as long as you can make your squire sound good. I’ve been rocking my Squire Tele for years and I have friends that have paid stupid money for their “real deal” tele’s and they want mine. $110 in a pawn shop and a $350 pickup change. It’s all about what’s in the fingers!
People often say that the tumnus mini doesn’t have the low kids like the original but if that’s the case there is always the deluxe version with the 3 band eq
Same. I listened a second time with headphones on without looking and other than the green pedal the differences were miniscule and would never be heard in a live or mixed setting.
@@theautisticguitarist7560 Oh, I didn't realise, so they already have a clone called "The Klone". In That case I'd have gone for ATK - for Attack of The Klones.
I could definitely notice a muddiness in the treble of the Tumnus that the Klon sings through. Though I'm sure there would be other pedals many money less, of this quality/character.
They went in prepared, didn't waste any time. Finished recording a 37 minute album in 6 sessions. Had they screwed off and wasted time writing songs at the studio...
@@myless.5493 Hah. Not only "an" album, but arguably one of the most famous albums ever written. That is definitely a fun little tidbit. Though, at $600, you can say that about a whole lotta things.
i am no expert- but this really does sound amazing. 😮 it's one of the most rich and... nostalgic(?) sounding pedals that i have heard thus far. it's unexpectedly difficult to describe. i guess i could put a description to it as: the sound of an old and weathered blues rock legend, that bugged out and went into hiding sometime around the end of the 70's, and has spent decades living in some backroom of a bowling alley in the middle of nowhere- soaked to his bones with the smell of cigarettes and cheap whiskey. also, orange-tinted aviator sunglasses. i used to play trumpet in a jazz band, and this tone strongly reminds me of what i fell in love with so much about the distinct sounds of the old worn-in instruments that were covered in battle-scars and dents. a sound that could NEVER be replicated in any newly-made instrument. it was hilarious how you went from not being sold initially, to mind f--king *B L O W N* after playing it. it mirrored my reactions perfectly. we were both thinking "is this really happening?" 😂
A $2,000 oz of gold doesn't make more rings than when it was $20. That doesn't mean it isn't worth $2,000 now. This pedal didn't have the reputation when it was $269. It also didn't have so many people looking for it. Value is supply and demand. There is a high demand for a small supply now and the supply keeps getting smaller. The same MP5 that the government buys for $900 is worth $20,000 in the civilian market, because the supply of civilian MP5s is so small and it is a classic. The $900 one is even new and in better shape. $20,000 may seem like a waste of money, but as supply goes down, they will hit $40,000 and keep going. I priced one at $8,500 in 2002. Value doesn't have anything to do with past prices. Edit, I just looked up the same model that was $8,500 in 2000 (a transferrable MP5SD) and the current price us $37,000. Last time I looked a few years ago it was $20,000.
The tummus was a great alternative. However I agree there is just something about the og that sounds right. Those last solos were some of the best things I’ve ever heard on an electric guitar.
Agreed. Out of all the other cheaper alternatives I think the Tummus was the closest for sure. Og sounded outstanding tho. Just had that little extra something. That “something” costs about $4900 to achieve apparently 😂
@@liamwagner9160 in a blind sound test you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that $5000 pedal versus the right set of much more affordable plugins on a PC, and if you could tell you’d be a very rare specimen
I closed my eyes and couldn't tell the difference at all between the Klon and the Tumnus. They sound exactly the same to me albeit I'm not in the actual room. The JHS Overdrive also sounded very similar. I've never liked the sound of the Nobels though.
If I managed to get my hands on that thing, I would put it in front of a dimed Marshall jcm 800 as a booster and use my epiphone Les Paul with bare knuckle warpigs in the bridge. If anyone gets who I’m referencing… I dunno. Good job, I guess.
EDIT: The Klon has now been paid for. Thank you for your viewership 🙏
worth it... right... RIGHT? btw, PLEASE don't miss the jam at 12:30, I really like it
Yes 100%
Yes
Yes
Idk
not if you think 5,000$ is expensive :P i think 100 dollars is expensive ;-;
Whenever I feel bad about buying a piece of 200 dollar gear I watch these video
then you remember he made almost all of that back from the views
@@TwskiTV you could prolly remove the almost now :D
I apply this to both golf clubs and guitar gear. Thinking about applying it to cars as well, and bikes. Where my wife gone? Sarah.....?
Doing this right now.
@@Duarte842 same
Here, take this thumbs up...for the algorithm.
And the money, Rhett. The money.
We need to get him on trending after that.
I felt too bad not to 😂
Rhett.. when are YOU going to buy one of these magic pedals for us to hear your guitars through??! Haha
@@toddbeeman5933 I think he bought one when he was in england
When this guy's pedal is more expensive than your entire studio setup
Hehe just the set up?
I know it
when the cheapest pedal is more expensive than your guitar
Lmao
This is more expensive than my guitar, my other guitar, amp, wah pedal, another pedal, strings picks and straps. Basically this pedal is more then I have spent combined in. 2 years of guitar.
Well this video has aged well haha . It now has a million views . And the petal is 7500 to 10,000 . So you weren’t wrong about value . Hopefully you still have it lol
"Let's see what this Gain knob does" ...said every guitarist ever.
When he said "let's turn up the gain a little" and cranked it halfway i laughed
lol
Wtf He said this right when I scrolled down and saw this comment lmao
Lol
lol true
This comment is just to help him pay for the pedal
lol
fax
Same
Wata nice guy
lol I think he knows exactly what he's doing
@@bigsnacks913 Well he should, right? That's literally his job.
This video is the best free advertisement for the Tumnus Brian Wampler could have ever hoped for. Just perfect!
For real it sounds exactly like the klon to me
+1
@@DankDynamite it definitely is like 80% there but I definitely heard a "squash" when he switched to it if that makes sense. Like the signal got compressed or something.
Thought the exact same thing. It's now on my ever growing list of sh*t I don't need.
@@DankDynamite Gives more bottem end where the klon sounds tighter and more crisp imo
the Centaur schematic is available at ElectroSmash, so i built one.
Being a hobbyist, i had about 10% of the parts already. Additional quality parts = $49.45 ...
Hard to say how long it took to build. Maybe 6 or 8 hours (lots of double-checking, redundant measuring, keeping a clear head, etc.)
That site also has an analysis of the circuitry, and it IS advanced over "standard" drive pedals.
Developed by the idea man and 2 MIT engineers, it certainly focuses on keeping the audio fidelity
throughout the circuitry, and promotes certain harmonics that give it its rich sound.
Built by hand throughout the 90s kept its retail price at about 300+ bucks.
Then the guy got tired of building them, and here we are $4000 later.
How does yours sound?
The higher 27vdc operation of the op-amp was designed for a greater slew rate, and you can hear it. And i've got an otherwise tin ear.
Rather than manipulating the guitar audio, this circuit, um, caresses (?!) the signal and enriches the output. You can just tell there is something different going on in this pedal rather than just diode clipping.
Here we are... Lol
Did you build it exactly the same with the same parts? I've heard a lot about the very particular germanium diodes that are apparently unattainable nowadays.
@@arthurias7693 Yes! Paid strict attention to parts and schematic. I work at a 55-year-old electronics company that has a fine selection of old components, including the 1N34A germaniums.
I'm very lucky to have access to such parts, but don't fret! You can still find 1N34A germanium diodes online.
I'm glad you opened it up. I like the goop shot. (that sounded wrong)
R.J. Ronquillo 🤢
🤮
That's what she said
Hahhaaaa my man!
Its called the money shot
Goals: Buy a Klon, write it off as a business expense.
Adam Taylor 😂
Nothing like tax evasion
@@lucashernandez8146 That's not tax evasion. He literally can write it off as a business expense. It's not like he gets it for free, it would just mean he saves ~$500 on his tax return.
That's exactly how people evade taxes.
Way Huge's Conspiracy Theory is pretty much the best affordable Klon clone from my experience ab clones with the actual thing. If you are really poor the mosky horse series is good too but I would go for Conspiracy theory or any legit well built clones.
Tyler: "I'm gonna use a couple different guitars to give you a sense of what this pedal can do"
Also Tyler: *proceeds to use three PRS guitars*
Eric Mulligan are you hating on prs my man
@@andrewdupree4165 I think our buddy here just wanted a little more variety in the brands
90% of everyone absolutely loves PRS. Only 15% can afford them lol. (Or are willing to save forever to get one.) I could feed my family for a 6 months for the price of a PRS.
@@andrewdupree4165 Not hating on PRS, was just expecting a lil more brand variety haha
@Richard Phillips Their SE versions are actually cheap and the quality, in my experience, has been much better than Epiphone. And I was a big Epiphone fan until I started playing PRS. I had 2 Epiphones and 2 SE's. I still have one Epi, LP Custom, but I don't touch it anymore. I always reach for my PRS SE instead.
Dude, does the IRS let you write this off as a job-related expense? Hope so.
Of course
100%
Pornstars get tax breaks on sex toys they use in videos
@@laa0fa502 lmao
Does that also mean you can claim it as a loss on your taxes if this video doesn't get 1m views?
When his pedal is 20 times more expensive than your entire setup...
haha saaame im still rocking the affinity strat and keyboard amp
it's precisely 5k more expensive than mine.
Entire guitar pedal and amp collection 😂😂
@@ichibandude Great guitar, set up one for a friend, didn't want to give it back and they WON'T take money for it! Rats! They don't make them anymore and I Want one......waah....sniff.....
His guitar pedal is more expensive than my house
Buys $5,000 guitar pedal. Uses horribly mis-sized screwdriver and freaks out gearheads and OCD kids worldwide.
I had the same 😂 started screaming at the screen
HA. same here. "Get a proper screwdriver to mess with the $5K pedal!"
Amen
So glad I'm not the only one.....phew...
I saw that.... I thought I would be the only person bothered by that. LOL
I think the klon clone mini sounded just, of not almost like the real thing. However, not playing it, can't really tell. Glad you got all the likes you needed. Thanks for doing this.
Sounded a little more bright and tinny. Or hollow compared to the warmth of the original.
It's like an "overfuzz'" "overface" "Fuzzerdrive" whatever you wanna call it, I think you know what I mean.
agreed. sounds like fuzz and overdrive at the same time lol. I love it
This is exactly what I came to the comments to say lol
alternative title:
14 minutes of Tyler trying to justify his 5 thousand dollar purchase of a guitar pedal.
with 2 minutes of sex at the end
Lmao yeah
$5000... if you're multi-millionaire and can spay thousands around without blinking an eye. Even then it seems nuts. It just a guitar pedal that makes nice sounds.
The "Build Your Own Clone" version of this pedal sounds damn near 100% identical. Most people won't hear the difference. Really. There are lots of A/B videos. The BYOC version is less than $100.
Seriously though Tyler blows some cash. I dont know if he recoups it from the views but I sure dont see how.
*brings out Line-6*
Me: "Oh Jesus!"
MIW: "Just kidding"
Don't ever joke like that again or I'll sue you, lol!
I think we all thought that, which is why the gag worked.
I too watched the video.
Im not a gear guy. Can someone explain the joke??
@@kali3828 The Line 6 Spider is a very cheap amp modeler from about 20 years ago. It would be considered criminal in many guitar forums to have put that pedal in front of that amp.
@@brettmarlar4154 oh, got it lmao. I thought that line 6 amp was high end. I was thinking of line 6 helix
man pedals are probably one of the most profitable goods you can manufacture next to pasta or ice cream. pedals cost literally cents in parts and you can sell em to guitar elitists for ludicrous prices. its like a million % mark up
You completely forgot about the part that labor goes into the price of things
If you know how to build them and spend a lot of time doing it then maybe
@@frosty6845 labor for some circuit boards and screws? Apple has people in China working for slave labor to the point where they kill themselves. The labor cost is negligible and certainly doesn’t make up for the cost
@@frosty6845 pedal assembly really isn't that hard/costly especially for hand wired boards or pcb's using throughole components.
There are also so many designs available online for different effects that all you would really be doing at the most is tweaking the design a bit to make it unique to you if you even wanted to.
I actually believe the Klondike were quite expensive and time consuming to make. That’s why the original maker stopped making them
I’d rate:
1. Klon
2. Wampler
3.JHS
4. Nobles
But the wampler is definitely the smarter route.
100% agree
The Nobles sounded really good at low gain IMO. It was underwhelming past 12 though.
Agreed.
100%
Agreeing with your rank
Wife: "When did you get that pedal?"
Music is Win: "I've always had it."
Wife: "How much was it?"
Music is Win: "Not that much...."
Wife: "You know that I can watch RUclips too, don't you?"
Damn, the sheer accuracy of that conversation is unbelievable.
literally every conversation I have with my wife about my stuff.
Hahah, like I do with my wife))
Digitech with drop tune 350bucks
How much it was
Oh, 30 bucks
It was a gift.
Who watched this after watching the the $500,000 Klon Centaur Pedal video 😂
Me lmao
Me ton
Right here.
Me
I’m going to like this because you need the like after this.
Let's be honest, no matter what that Klon sounded like, we would still convince ourselves that it's the most amazing thing we ever heard so we can justify the price
This is what corona does to people.
Lolllll
Yes, I’ve had bout dozen and I’m gonna buy a pedal
I'm always reading, researching, writing, etc. while watching RUclips. This video actually made me stop what I was doing and just watch and listen. Great sound and great playing. Thank you!
Me when ordering a $130 Squier: "Ugh, I feel sick, I need a beer..."
@Paranoid Drummer Learn to know a joke, lol. I'd never buy one of those entry-level Squiers even as a mod project. The Classic Vibes, on the other hand are almost too good for their price, imo.
69 likes, nice
The Indonesian squiers are more expensive but very good.
@@alexbowman7582 I have two Chinese ones. The contemporary strat is okay for its price but the Classic Vibe honestly feels a more quality instrument than some of the USA models I've briefly tested.
I still love my 90's Squire. Its mildly heavy, never goes out of tune (except once at a gig at Harpers Ferry) and it was my first electric. Still my go to. Though it desperately needs some love right now. A full cleaning and maybe wiring.
You probably won’t ever read this but that solo at the end was freaking perfect.
Amen to that
indeed
Yeah. I thought he was just a noodler until that solo happened.
For real!!!
Did you messed up your pants too? Yea... I didn’t.... hahah
It's sounds amazing, but not 5000$ level of amazing.
Ikr
It is a question of, how much are you willing to pay for the tone it provides?
The hardware itself is simply cheap components like any other amp pedal, given them smearing them with non transparent goop just to keep component identity hidden.
Wrap your head around this: $5000 to some people is like $50 to other people.
I’m happy with my TS9 and now I ordered a 1981 inventions pedal 🔫
I would pay $500 top for a pedal more than that is stealing xd
Guitar had to smoke an entire pack of cigarettes after that solo.
my thoughts exactly! 😂
lucky strikes.
no filter. 👌
For that price it should include David Gilmour,
this is underrated
bruh u savage ^^
For that price EVH better come out of the grave and endorse it!
Too soon?
@@Wulfdojo 😂
That ending jam definitely had some Shine On You Crazy Diamond vibes to it
I was highly skeptical only hearing about the fabled Klon and never actually hearing it. I have to say that Klon was sweet, way overpriced, but it did sound like the nectar of Gods. Bang for the buck though....Wampler hands down achieved 95% of the Klon sound to my ears
Me : *Notices mom have 5'000 in her bank account*
Me: Oh yeah it's show time
Who’s here after he bought a pedal 100x the price 😎
No one.
I bought a digitech whammy and thought 500 dollars was a lot lol.
@Aubert Lachance are you a bot
I met an old car dealer, who once told me. "there is an ass for every seat"...
Yup, my boss used to always say that at the dealership.
🤣🤣🤣
So what you’re saying is, there’s a foot for every pedal?
Lol, I immediately thought of Danny Devito in Matilda...
Next weeks video:
"I chopped off my pinky. Will it affect my playing?"
No he doesn't play with his pinkie
"These go to eleven"
"For four thousand dollars, I'll build you one that goes to twelve."
Build it, have him compare them, and (assuming it's true) I'll take two.... waiting...
The Tumnus held it's own. I wouldn't say it outshined the Centaur but it does the Centaur well. The Centaur sounded incredible
You deserved to get that pedal considering how beautifully you're able to play through it.. that was beautiful.
Nobody:
Music is win: Thats Way Too Expensive!
Him 2 seconds later: alright lets buy it.
Dude
Azunyan!!
Junchan!
we still do the imaginary dialog?
@@duroxkilo yes
You're providing a valuable service, Tyler. On behalf of all guitarists everywhere, thank you :-D
Shootout: The Klon takes it clearly, but the little Wampler was like 96% there with it, amazingly. BackingTrack: absolutely transcendent! The tones were inspired, rich, and luscious while your playing was OUT OF THIS WORLD fantastical... so tasteful but at the same time blistering. LIT AF
Brett S there was something there in the recording that was just a touch “more” in the original like a tiny little bit of top end sizzle at the peak of each note and settling nicely as the decay began (?) ... I don’t know. May just be me. I would agree with you that anyone chasing that tone should buy the Wampler for sure. That’s what I’d buy even if they were both affordable... It sounded RAD, indeed. 🤘🏼🤩
@@jerryross821 Like he said at the end there...he felt it did something to his playing....so the Wampler may be every bit as good in sound but just didn't make the fingers flow as well. Sounded damned good to me though so I'm gonna check the Wampler out.
Yes to all
Now he can put it back in the box and sell it during his retirement years.
96.9%
Playing with that backing track really gets keeps backing me right into guitar
"There's a mystique to this pedal " Is the only word you got to say to comfort yourself after paying 5 grand for a pedal.
But honestly im proud of you for having built this channel up and being able to play a 5 grand pedal for us.
When I saw this in my buddy’s shop for $800 I thought “hell no”, now I’m like “Damnit!!!”.
The isle of tone are great ones too you should check those out
The Klon circuit is a good circuit so it sounds good, but it's not magic. There's very little difference between the Klon and the Tumnus and the Tumnus isn't even a direct clone. If you want exact go get a Ceriatone Centura or another of the many boutique direct clones and don't waste $5k on a single pedal.
This is buyer psychology to the max. There's no way he'd react like this if it were a blind test and wasn't looking down at a pedal he just dropped $5k on.
Yeah, seriously. Just like some of the comments where people are hearing huge differences...
from a video uploaded to youtube.
from which the quality is changed by youtube.
and then listening to it on their phone, tablet, headphones or computer speakers.
The Ceriatone Centura is fantastic. The best replica I've ever heard and seen.
Nailed it. Does it sound better? Maybe, but no way it sounds $5000 better. I'm sure it feels really cool to own such a fabled piece of gear, or maybe he does want to see where the value goes and resell it, but strictly talking about tone, there's no way I could ever justify that investment.
Gotta say I was pretty impressed with that little JHS, though. I can't say I actually own any of their products, but I'm a big fan of the company from the way their founder Josh carries himself and sees his role in the guitar world.
I thought the centaur clone he had in the video and compared sounded pretty much on par
There's a REALLY crappy Monet oil painting at the MOMA in SF - a no sky, no shore, no nuthin' view of "a storm at sea" - just a canvass full of c-shaped brush strokes in shades of blue and green, like he was trying to clean his brush. If you saw it at a thrift store or yard sale - you'd pass. But it IS a Monet. Worth a bleeding fortune. BFD...
I'm at the "I need a beer" part and it's already my favorite video of his.
"I feel something from this pedal" - Sir what you are feeling is how your wallet is 5000 bucks lighter.
No pedal is worth 5 grand. Not a one. Oh... and let's not forget he gets to write that shit off of his taxes as a business expense. All these RUclipsrs who review products do.
G S - well of course, you have to spend money to generate business revenue.
You’ve unlocked the “Golden Centaur of Shred” achievement. 😂
That too😂😂😎
@@GS-vb3zn first it does sound extraordinary great, plus it’s rare, so yes it costs that
The Wampler sounded almost exact. The treble boost it gives adds clarity to compliment the bass when you’re on the neck pickup. This is no disagreement that the Klon is one of the best distortion pedals ever. If it was paired up with another pedal to muddy it up even more that it would still make the signal that much better. Really helps those upper notes sing with body and clarity. Great video.
@@bartendermike I totally agree. The JHS was slightly different but had all of the same great attributes as the Klon and seemed like it might run a bit hotter. The last pedal was mediocre. With that setup anyway.
I agree with that mostly too. It seemed like the Wampler lost a bit of thickness on the lower strings, though.
Still sounded good and it’s capable of doing more than I could completely utilize.
I'd rather get the Wampler and a KIA SOUL.
I agree that the Wampler sounded no different than the Klon really from the recording anyway. How they sound raw in the room and uncompressed is a different story.
I agree. I think this video is going to make me want to buy the Wampler Tumnus. 5k for a distortion pedal is reserved for those guys who have a ton of money and the most expensive gear on the planet, but they can't play.
Can’t imagine Bethany’s face after seeing the price of that
Our views paid for it.
@@chairmankaga2821 no not yet still about 940,000 more views till its paid for...
That tone coming from the Centaur sounds like the guitar tone of Paul Kossoff, Rory Gallagher, Michael Bloomfield, and other 60s/70s guitar maestros who were legendary "plug-and-play" guitar heroes.
Your YT channel is lit! Always!
"$4,500?? We might not be making this video."
Read: my wife will be _pissed_ if I don't run this by her first
If this video actually covered the cost of the pedal then there's no reason for you NOT to have one of the original klon pedals. You're succesfully making a great living playing guitar on RUclips. That fact alone justifies you buying whatever ridiculously expensive guitar related stuff there is on Earth. I feel like it's important that you do your best to offer a balanced and honest opinion regarding overpriced unnecessary gear, if for no other reason, so you can sleep at night though. Now go buy some more crazy shit and let you tube pay for it! Lol!
My jaw dropped when you switched to the tumnus. Sounded practically exactly like the klon!
That was an absolutely beautiful, phenominal guitar solo you created... and I'm not one who hands out fluff, so I 100% mean that. Keep shreddin' dude. ✌️
Do I afford it?
100% not.
Why I'm here?
I don't know.
But still here.
This is valuable research
Biggest surprise was the wampler that sounded almost identical to the Centaur.
The wampler did sound very similar for most of the “riffs” he played but the ending notes on most of them sounded way better to me on the klon it gave those notes more character to me. The only setting I didn’t like the sound of the klon better than any of the other pedals was when he had it set to 10 o’clock. On that setting for some reason it just sounds too distorted and made the guitar play sound out of time.
@@centurion4714 10 o'clock is roughly ¼
Listen again on good headphones or good wide freq range flat monitors.
Because it’s designed to sound like the Klon and Brian Wampler is a clever guy who knows what he’s doing. 🤷🏼♂️
@@nohavermillion maybe if we had a 40 hour day!
That last solo sounds like the perfect combo of Joe Satriani and David Gilmour
Yoo faxxx
Wow yes! It really did actually!
I hear none of Joe's signature spazzy legato runs :(
I HEARD SOME JASON BECKER PERSPECTIVE IN THE JAM WITH THAT PDL
Your friend Brian's one is the best. In the first test it sounded exactly the same!
We need this to hit 1M in this vid cause Jesus Christ did Tyler go big with this one
I nearly choked on my pizza when Tyler brought out the Line 6.
It was a great fake out, proper gave me a good laugh :D
I was like "DUDE there's no way you'r-never mind."
Hilarious!!!
The Wampler and the JHS sounded very similar to the Centaur with the JHS sounding a fair bit brighter but the Nobles pedal just sounded dull in comparison. Depending on price for the sound I would go for the JHS or Wampler but at this point the Centaur is more of an investment than a piece of music gear (a bit like bidding on Jimi Hendrix's Strat).
Yeah, to me the Wampler sounded better
@@DrFeltcher I agree with you (ear twins) Wampler was best and JHS was exactly the same - I couldn't tell them apart.
The Wampler and the centaur are almost the same, they all sound amazing. Centuar still the best
I use a Ryra Klone. Basically the same pedal. But less expensive.
@@youbi179 Yeah. Super close. I was considering Ryra as well. Sounds great... but I'm leaning toward the Mythical Overdrive because it comes with the option to add some additional overdrive tone options with a toggle switch.
Love this video! It just proved that this $5000 pedal sounds the same as the $150 Wampler Tumnus. 😁 And yes, I’m sure that $5000 pedal sounds amazing in the room and makes you want to play more. I have bought amplifiers that are like that.
Love what you did at 13:45! Good video, bro!
the clone is really really close, the jhs sounds surprisingly good too.
Which one is the JHS?
The Centura is the best clone. Looks exactly the same and sounds almost identical. I A/B’d it with a Klon KTR and it’s super close even though the KTR is different than the gold Klon.
The Nobel sounds muted compared to the other three. The JHS sounds really tinny. The Wampler is closest to the real deal. I think the Centaur sounds the best across each test, but that price tag though!!!
@@wjspade the Centaur definitely sound awesome.
The Centaur is an actual klon.......
The Wampler comes the closest to being identical in tone IMHO.
I thought they where identical haha
Bought a Tumnus after watching this and I will likely be divorced soon as well....since I sleep with it and ignore my wife. Thanks to Tyler...Jbone is Win
Thumbs up for the algorithm. Fair play to you man, absolutely brilliant video.
They need to make one for metal called the djentaur
Have your like, good man.
And you as well
Maxwell Pellinger and you as well
@@dr.lopezramon2582 and you as well
@@pianopersona8822 and you as well
@@fourstarshit and you as well
There are rare moments when magic happens. The last thing you played, with the backing track, was magic.
That's what all this is about.
Couldn't agree more, the notes he picked was really on point. There was something David Gilmoury about it, but more progressive. beautiful!
I agree, his playing is way out there.
Yeah - that's absolutely gorgeous.
It's a great sounding pedal. The fuzz to distortion ratio is really nice. That being said, in the test, I liked the Nobles pedal best at max gain, but the lower gain sounded amazing on the Klon. The articulation on the Klon at that lower gain setting was pretty great.
Does the Centaur sound awesome? HELL YES.
Is it worth $5.000? HELL NO.
I have bought a great and reliable car for this amount of money...
Same
you could get a whole pedalboard, a good guitar and a good amp and maybe some cash left for a good dinner.
Got a car for less than that, with enough change to buy a very nice guitar or amp! Haha
So go and bought your car. Why bother?
It costs about 40$ on Ali.
Next video is gonna be like "So, I just received the divorce papers from my wife."
"I just bought a $1800 RV 'cause the wife filed for divorce"
5k is worth travelling to Belgium to forget your girlfriend.
Or a used car, or sometimes a new car, or rent,food and other bills. Fuck that price im ok with my meh of a multipedal that do the job just fine
I came back to this video just to hear you play the riff at 8:03 after turning up the gain on the klon. Its beautiful
Price aside, it sounded heavenly to me.
It absolutely did! :D
Heavynly hehe
Touring with that pedal would be so damn stressful. You'd have to get the klon it's own security guard.
Plot twist: he was using a boss DS1 the whole time
Plot twist it was a metal zone the whole time
@@dcdanger7597 was just going to leave this comment
So was I.
I knew something was up😂😂
i'm gonna dig up his coffin after he's buried cause he will still have it on him
I’m watching this in 2023 and the gold horsie on reverb is 7,500 bucks, Tyler made a great purchase
Not sure how much of the gain character is the amp itself, but on first impression *in terms of TONE* :
4) Nobels: Okay but narrow. Dull at high-gain, but clear and nice at low.
3) Wampler: Similar to Klon but a tiny bit messier sounding, something in the lows/low-mids causing slight noise/flub.
2) JHS: Clear, tidy, would work well in a band setting. Great value. Best option for the everyman.
1) Klon: Very professional sheen. but warm, Like you would hear on a record. No weird frequencies poking out. Not worth the price, but sounds the best.
JHS overall winner.
...will this make my $50 Squier sound any good?
Tbh Tyler made that pedal sound good, and he will with your squier when he gets his hands on it :p Just saying if I had the pedal it would sound like $50 lmao
Yep, as long as you can make your squire sound good. I’ve been rocking my Squire Tele for years and I have friends that have paid stupid money for their “real deal” tele’s and they want mine. $110 in a pawn shop and a $350 pickup change. It’s all about what’s in the fingers!
Sure.
Depends whos playing it...
@@bazwillrun LOL
“Did my reckless spending just turn into a monetary investment?”
Dude the line 6 pull was priceless
Yea what he said
Luxembourg isn't in Belgium it is it's own country. You've probably offended dozens of Luxembourgers.
@@alexugoku that was kinda the joke.
It’s a city-state if I’m not mistaken?
@@scbl46 yeah I mean basically the only state in the country of Luxembourg is Luxembourg. So yeah basically a city state. But it is it's own country.
@@puyopop3085 Luxemburg is also a province in Belgium, to make it complicated. It's right next to the state.
LuxuryBurgers - great taste - impossible to offend!
The Tumnus is really really close - I don’t know that I could differentiate between it and the Klon in a blind test.
Dude same. When I was listening I moved to a new tab and had no idea he changed. I have the deluxe version and wow.
Was just looking for this comment. That Wampler sounded damn close.
People often say that the tumnus mini doesn’t have the low kids like the original but if that’s the case there is always the deluxe version with the 3 band eq
Same. I listened a second time with headphones on without looking and other than the green pedal the differences were miniscule and would never be heard in a live or mixed setting.
I thought the same thing
The ending solo of ending jam is unbelievable. What a tone and playing..
What’s that solo’s name?
@@umityasar5998 it`s an improvisation man
yes it was great. It reminded me Andy Timmon's "Cry for you"
Everybody uses the klon as a boost but the secret is to CRANK THE GAIN. It’s so magical
The Wampler sounded SO close to the KLON. I dont think anyone could tell in a blindfold test and especially in a mix.
I Concur...
Exactly
It lost a little on the low side, but ya it’s pretty damn close!
It might sound the same by what your ears hearing but the finger tips would tell way so much different.
Agreed.
The Tumnus is honestly close enough to be amazing, and for everyone who can't afford a Klon, it's basically the same
yup
Tumnus was very close if not slightly better, but once in a mix who would know other than your bank manager? But why didn't he call it "The Klone"?
@@watercolourmark id imagine because it be like calling it the "please sue me".
@@theautisticguitarist7560 Oh, I didn't realise, so they already have a clone called "The Klone". In That case I'd have gone for ATK - for Attack of The Klones.
I could definitely notice a muddiness in the treble of the Tumnus that the Klon sings through. Though I'm sure there would be other pedals many money less, of this quality/character.
"There is something in the way this makes me play"
Yes, the price.
Jurek My hands would be shaking knowing how much I paid for it, so yeah, that’d probably affect my playing, too! 😂
You mean just like what Tyler said is likely to be the reason...like 4 times?
In love with jam at the end dude. Well done
I literally said "Come on man, through a line 6!?!?!?" LOL
Same haha
@ytub yt yes, for beginners
Sometimes we hear with our eyes.
And our wallets.
word, you can build one of these for 30 bucks.
helen keller disagrees
Sometimes my eyes are bigger than my stomach.
@@copaxan omg that’s so funny and cruel
This guitar pedal costs more than the entire budget for Nirvana's Bleach album
Guitar Pedal: $4600
Bleach: $600
They went in prepared, didn't waste any time. Finished recording a 37 minute album in 6 sessions. Had they screwed off and wasted time writing songs at the studio...
@@freedustin They were definitely prepared. I just find it funny how a pedal costs more than an album essentially
@@myless.5493 Hah. Not only "an" album, but arguably one of the most famous albums ever written. That is definitely a fun little tidbit. Though, at $600, you can say that about a whole lotta things.
Is that 600 1980s dollars?
@@jmathews4765 Yeah, now its about $1300
i am no expert- but this really does sound amazing. 😮
it's one of the most rich and... nostalgic(?) sounding pedals that i have heard thus far. it's unexpectedly difficult to describe. i guess i could put a description to it as: the sound of an old and weathered blues rock legend, that bugged out and went into hiding sometime around the end of the 70's, and has spent decades living in some backroom of a bowling alley in the middle of nowhere- soaked to his bones with the smell of cigarettes and cheap whiskey. also, orange-tinted aviator sunglasses.
i used to play trumpet in a jazz band, and this tone strongly reminds me of what i fell in love with so much about the distinct sounds of the old worn-in instruments that were covered in battle-scars and dents. a sound that could NEVER be replicated in any newly-made instrument.
it was hilarious how you went from not being sold initially, to mind f--king *B L O W N* after playing it. it mirrored my reactions perfectly. we were both thinking "is this really happening?" 😂
The sobering reality: A Klon costing $5,000 doesn't sound any better then when it cost $269.
You're right, it should have cost $5,000 new.
stop
69. Nice
A $2,000 oz of gold doesn't make more rings than when it was $20. That doesn't mean it isn't worth $2,000 now. This pedal didn't have the reputation when it was $269. It also didn't have so many people looking for it. Value is supply and demand. There is a high demand for a small supply now and the supply keeps getting smaller. The same MP5 that the government buys for $900 is worth $20,000 in the civilian market, because the supply of civilian MP5s is so small and it is a classic. The $900 one is even new and in better shape. $20,000 may seem like a waste of money, but as supply goes down, they will hit $40,000 and keep going. I priced one at $8,500 in 2002. Value doesn't have anything to do with past prices.
Edit, I just looked up the same model that was $8,500 in 2000 (a transferrable MP5SD) and the current price us $37,000. Last time I looked a few years ago it was $20,000.
@@theaberrantdon You have an MP5? Can it be rented? Asking for a friend.
The tummus was a great alternative.
However I agree there is just something about the og that sounds right. Those last solos were some of the best things I’ve ever heard on an electric guitar.
Agreed. Out of all the other cheaper alternatives I think the Tummus was the closest for sure. Og sounded outstanding tho. Just had that little extra something. That “something” costs about $4900 to achieve apparently 😂
@@liamwagner9160 in a blind sound test you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that $5000 pedal versus the right set of much more affordable plugins on a PC, and if you could tell you’d be a very rare specimen
I suspect that if he hadn't shown what pedals were being used when, it would be very hard to tell which was which.
I closed my eyes and couldn't tell the difference at all between the Klon and the Tumnus. They sound exactly the same to me albeit I'm not in the actual room. The JHS Overdrive also sounded very similar. I've never liked the sound of the Nobels though.
If I managed to get my hands on that thing, I would put it in front of a dimed Marshall jcm 800 as a booster and use my epiphone Les Paul with bare knuckle warpigs in the bridge. If anyone gets who I’m referencing… I dunno. Good job, I guess.
Dude. It's the special "tone paint" that makes all the difference.