Is The Klon Really Worth $5,000?

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    Today we're taking a look at one of the most legendary and sought after guitar pedals, the Klon Centaur. Does it live up to it's $5000 price tag, or do the clones get close enough to the real thing?
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  • @MusicisWin
    @MusicisWin Год назад +251

    Did someone say Klon?
    BTW, the answer to the video title is 'ABSOLUTELY NOT'
    It's really worth about $7,500-8,000 :D

    • @tfriesen3866
      @tfriesen3866 Год назад +5

      So true. I’d save money and build the StewMac one.

    • @simonjenkin
      @simonjenkin Год назад +1

      @@tfriesen3866 "whooosh"

    • @NytronX
      @NytronX Год назад +7

      But but tonewoods bro.

    • @ericwarrington6650
      @ericwarrington6650 Год назад +3

      Warm Audio Centavo...$179...exact hand built recreation using highest quality materials available 🤘😜🎶🎸

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 Год назад +9

      You're trying to bump up the price of the one you're selling? 😂

  • @JakeTerch
    @JakeTerch Год назад +531

    I would much rather have five $1,000 guitars than one pedal.

    • @alexander_winston
      @alexander_winston Год назад +28

      Seriously. You could purchase a Fender American Professional guitar and a Marshall Plexi for around the same $.

    • @nuthinbutlove
      @nuthinbutlove Год назад +4

      YEEESSSSSSS!!! ♥️🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @pauel6747
      @pauel6747 Год назад +25

      No you wouldn’t. Maybe 2 $2,500 guitar that would be understandable..

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Год назад +7

      I'd go buy a dream amp and call it a day. A Two Rock, perhaps? Hard to say because I've never played one lol

    • @abvk4875
      @abvk4875 Год назад +16

      I'd rather spend 2k on pedals and save the other 3k for things that'll keep me alive. i.e. more pedals

  • @leesanders1619
    @leesanders1619 Год назад +317

    For that money I’ll go buy a dream guitar and a $200 clone pedal to go with it.

    • @void_snw
      @void_snw Год назад +13

      I'd go for quality budget axe, nice amp, and a hella good attenuator - with money to spare in the end.

    • @what1864
      @what1864 Год назад +3

      why not a $200 pedal and $200 guitar ?

    • @mysterymeat1216
      @mysterymeat1216 Год назад +10

      @@what1864 because $200 guitars are cheap shit?

    • @what1864
      @what1864 Год назад +4

      @@mysterymeat1216 they are cheap , there is a guy by the name of jack pearson who play's a squir strat bullet live regularly , he played with the allman brothers and the greg allman band , he's also played with joe bonamaasa , why would he play a shitt guitar ? i think rhett even did a video on em ..

    • @mysterymeat1216
      @mysterymeat1216 Год назад

      @@what1864 he probably played then because they sounded cheap. Same reason Kurt Cobain used cheap Fenders and Fender knock-offs. If he wanted to get a better tone, he'd use more expensive guitars

  • @jamesdoherty9379
    @jamesdoherty9379 Год назад +65

    I owned #26 for 20 years and used it in front of a ‘71 Super Lead. Bill actually brought it to my apt in Brookline to demo and I bought it. He sold them himself at the time.
    I sold it about 5 years ago for $1500 before they went crazy crazy. It was a great pedal and untouched by much else for a long time but there are a number of great boost/OD pedals now that sound just as good or better. It’s ridiculous that they sell for so much now.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад +1

      Oh well. You're in a big club.

    • @NebulaStudios1
      @NebulaStudios1 Год назад +2

      I lived on a Fuller Street Coolidge Corner. I faxed, talked with him, but in the end the $295 or so was too much for me back then. Suke Cerilo from Schliegh ho had one. They played Boston all the time.

    • @artprince9163
      @artprince9163 Год назад +1

      Some guitar aficionados are nuts. Much better ways to spend the money. Donate it to charity to give food to homeless for instance.

    • @sonicd57
      @sonicd57 Год назад +2

      @@johnsmith-ug5tp Social Media and hyped up you tube videos have also done a hell of a job screwing up the market for things like this. It’s exposed everything, there are no more secrets or special things… there’s always just the newest hyped up “thing”. This phenomenon wouldn’t be possible without social media. It’s actually ruined the fun in a couple of my passions/interests/hobbies. I just can’t afford to outbid the guys with money that will pay anything to buy their little trophy items. You spend 20 years developing knowledge and collecting, then idiots come along and take it away and act like they discovered it!!

    • @deathafi
      @deathafi Год назад +1

      Any overdrives you would recommend?

  • @DanielBobke
    @DanielBobke Год назад +53

    I built the StewMac clone kit (Ghost Drive) and it is an almost exact replica of the pedal and sound. It was $100 and about 10 hours of my time, but it is fantastic.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Год назад +3

      I have the same kit but haven't started it yet. Ten hours total is doable for this project, based on your experience?

    • @DanielBobke
      @DanielBobke Год назад +7

      @@offbeatbassgear Yes... if you have decent soldering skills and the right tools. I highly suggest magnifier glasses as the board and components are very small. There is some prep work - like verifying all the component values with a multimeter - that I highly recommend that will add time. You also must have a holder device for the board for the soldering.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Год назад +3

      @@DanielBobke Great, I have a holder and I just purchased a light up magnifying lens to mount on the workbench. I also thought I'd measure the readings on the components, tape them to a paper and remove them as needed. As for the soldering skills, I have a high pain threshold and some finger skin I have no use for...

    • @Delzona
      @Delzona Год назад +2

      @@DanielBobke I have the same kit, but haven’t started it yet. In verifying the components did you have to replace any because their value was too far out of spec?

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil Год назад +3

      @@Delzonaif you do, its not hard to find parts

  • @JasonTMays
    @JasonTMays Год назад +61

    Came for the Klon, stayed for the Pink Floyd "The Final Cut" shirt! I need one of those!

    • @TranscendentBen
      @TranscendentBen Год назад +2

      I was just thinking while seeing that shirt, I've been around a while ... The Final Cut is the ONLY album I've ever bought the day it came out.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Год назад +5

      @@TranscendentBen Fuck all that we've gotta get on with these

    • @davidpekarsky2977
      @davidpekarsky2977 Год назад

      Fuck all that. (Perfect guitar rake) Fuck all that.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Год назад +1

      Gotta compete with the wiley Japanese!

    • @Coopersboy7
      @Coopersboy7 Год назад

      @@kwyatt261 gotta compete with the wily Japanese

  • @glennw3909
    @glennw3909 Год назад +12

    All these guest appearances equal to so much knowledge in history & tone! Thanks, Rhett!

  • @jdpower6360
    @jdpower6360 Год назад +23

    I love the Wampler Tumnus deluxe. For me it’s as good as a pedal needs to get.

    • @sim0n17
      @sim0n17 Год назад

      Tumnus mini,... done and done

  • @michaelshearer3559
    @michaelshearer3559 Год назад +70

    Josh kills me with his collection. Unbelievably awesome that he has all those. Beyond beyond!

    • @MiketheBassMan
      @MiketheBassMan Год назад +17

      He never misses a chance to say he has the first one ever sold. lmao

    • @dannyjdonovan
      @dannyjdonovan Год назад +10

      And sometimes he has the box!

    • @teleguy8722
      @teleguy8722 Год назад +3

      Quite the humble brag. Lol

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад +2

      He's a revolutionary kind of guy. I'm not really a fan of his RUclips channel, but he definitely knows his pedals.

    • @analtarofnothing69
      @analtarofnothing69 Год назад +11

      @@castleanthrax1833 He knows how to make money off other people's circuits, that's for sure.

  • @willjones4992
    @willjones4992 Год назад +29

    Rhett! You are killing it in the production department. These videos look incredible and are so professionally done.

  • @rcannonp
    @rcannonp Год назад +17

    There's no way that I could justify buying a real one, but I've been thinking of buying the StewMac kit version for a weekend project.

  • @jvborehed
    @jvborehed Год назад

    super entertaining and informative video - and that final track is awesome!

  • @ncd1967
    @ncd1967 Год назад +6

    I love my Jrad Archer IKON, and I really enjoy the way the dual gain pot works. I think the Klon style circuit is an interesting and unique overdrive, whether or not one "needs" a real one, I'll leave that up to the people who feel like they need the "real" one.

  • @jcavender00
    @jcavender00 Год назад +8

    I can't see myself ever spending that kind of money for a pedal. But the Klon sound is a marvelous thing.
    I've been using the Wampler Tumnus for years and it is awesome!

  • @georgeflowers3730
    @georgeflowers3730 Год назад +27

    Years ago I bought the Soul Food and instantly loved it! After so many years of using it, it finally failed, after doing some research I tested the Tumnus, MXR Sugar and Way Huge Conspiracy Theory, I ended up choosing the CT, I love it and it only cost $125.

    • @hibernative
      @hibernative Год назад +5

      The Sugar Drive is a really great sounding mini pedal, though! Can't go wrong with that or the Tumnus Mini if space is a issue.

    • @brethagen5491
      @brethagen5491 Год назад

      @@hibernative Agree completely, I have a Sugar Drive and love it. Sounds great, very affordable, and barely takes up any space on the board!

    • @mozartsp
      @mozartsp Год назад +2

      The CT is a really great one!

    • @kevincoleman9855
      @kevincoleman9855 Год назад +1

      Do you like the CT better than the soul food? I had one too that sort of failed. Stopped working plugged in. Battery only.

    • @georgeflowers3730
      @georgeflowers3730 Год назад +1

      @@kevincoleman9855 I love it! You can't go wrong with the CT.

  • @mikemeyer2289
    @mikemeyer2289 Год назад +1

    I've watched most of your videos, but this was probably the most informative from a practicality standpoint

  • @DanielPearsonRoseCityWriter
    @DanielPearsonRoseCityWriter Год назад

    Been waiting for you to dive into this!!!

  • @Lantertronics
    @Lantertronics Год назад +16

    I thought Rhett's comment about a Boss DS-1 getting into Klon territory was very interesting, since the Klon uses back-to-back shunt diodes to ground the way the DS-1 does. What makes the Klon interesting is the way it mixes its different audio paths.

    • @DavidHBurkart
      @DavidHBurkart Год назад +1

      ...he did clarify the other pedals mentioned can only get close to limited settings of the Klon

    • @michaelgarcia2050
      @michaelgarcia2050 Год назад +1

      Yeah, I didn't know about the 3 signal paths until just now.

    • @Lantertronics
      @Lantertronics Год назад +1

      @@DavidHBurkart Oh, yeah, wasn't doubting that. I may not have been clear.

  • @BobbyDoesMusic
    @BobbyDoesMusic Год назад +5

    Another great video! Whenever I go to buy one of those classic "staple" pedals (Klon, TS, Rat, ODR-1, etc), I usually go hunting for someone who's done a version of that circuit with more features and options. As such, I've got a ton of Wamplers and a couple JHSs on my board. The Tumnus Deluxe is probably my favorite pedal, at a fraction of the price of a Klon.

  • @boufd2008
    @boufd2008 Год назад

    Great vid . Thx .
    Your outro guitar work was excellent !!

  • @Makanisurfin
    @Makanisurfin Год назад

    Amazing video and playing dude love it!

  • @davidmorgan6000
    @davidmorgan6000 Год назад +5

    I've the RYRA Clone and it sounds as good as any I've heard. $200 and you've got four color options to choose from as well. The Wampler Tumnus Deluxe is also great if you want more bass and gain tweaking ability. Hope this helps someone make a decision! Enjoy!

  • @Roomsound101
    @Roomsound101 Год назад +12

    For those of us who might be more limited on $$$ we need videos like this! The help is much appreciated!!!

  • @Woozy.0
    @Woozy.0 Год назад

    Great video. Love Rhett's critical eye, much more helpful than other youtubers sucking up to brands. Also love the kernom ridge, and it can connect to an expression pedal for easy tweaking

  • @jeffjfindley4802
    @jeffjfindley4802 Год назад +2

    Best template for an OD, says I. Can't make it sound bad. You sound fantastic as always.

  • @tokuprime4450
    @tokuprime4450 Год назад +26

    Part of me misses "and remember there is no plan B" but another part of me is glad that Rhett has finally thought of a backup scheme. ^_^

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад +10

      I never liked that line. There always has to be a "plan B".

    • @fleshrevolt
      @fleshrevolt Год назад

      It's like the line "If you ain't first, you're last" from Talladega Nights 😂

    • @marcelpaquet8134
      @marcelpaquet8134 Год назад

      ​@@fleshrevolt or do or do not there is no try

  • @maxjellinek8931
    @maxjellinek8931 Год назад +2

    It’s 100% worth the money. As with anything that’s the real deal, it just sounds a little better, more air, more vibe. It’s subtle, but to those who want that sound, it’s priceless.

  • @Maplefuzz3542
    @Maplefuzz3542 Год назад +2

    Mad Professor Royal blue is my favorite transparent overdrive. People from Finland will know it.

  • @allenhayesmusic
    @allenhayesmusic Год назад +4

    I use the Mythos Wildwood Mjolnir and I love it! ❤

  • @PhatLvis
    @PhatLvis Год назад +4

    People have taken "transparent overdrive" to mean something like "preserves your amp tone," or "doesn't interfere with" something. The term was actually coined to refer to pedals like the Klon which incorporate a parallel, unaffected clean signal, with the overdrive sitting on top, or superimposed, in the manner of a transparency sheet on an overhead projector.

    • @Tone2town
      @Tone2town Год назад

      I am surprised that some guitarist don’t know to just buy a looper or a blender , a boost and EQ . You can replicate a lot of sounds with just three pedals.
      They love that HYPE Train 🚂 it goes round and it don’t stop … lol

  • @JustinJeske
    @JustinJeske Год назад +2

    Great video Rhett! I bought one a year and a half ago because it's a collectors item and a real special piece of guitar pedal history, however anyone who says you can't replicate it is just wrong. Lots of pedals out there can get the sound and do it really well, besides the Soul Food, but it's just a cool piece of gear to have.

  • @robert_starling
    @robert_starling Год назад

    Nice! Short, sweet and to the point!

  • @ericwarrington6650
    @ericwarrington6650 Год назад +30

    Just got the warm audio centavo and it's unbelievable right down to the build quality and enclosure...part for part recreation and hand built...under $200

    • @EddyEE1968
      @EddyEE1968 Год назад +1

      Yes as close as it can get with this pedal, sounds amazingly good. They hit the ballpark with this clone. It is almost sold out in every store in the Netherlands! Have to wait several weeks for having one.

    • @adambartlow5489
      @adambartlow5489 Год назад +1

      That is good news! This is the klone I have my eye on!

    • @IamtheFerryMan
      @IamtheFerryMan Год назад +2

      My friend built me one. It's stellar. He used the original circuit schematic. I LOVE the Minotaur in Helix. It was a driver for me selling my FM3 and buying another Helix Floor.

    • @ericwarrington6650
      @ericwarrington6650 Год назад +1

      @@adambartlow5489 it's really good man.. visually dead on.. sonically just amazing response to dynamics of your playing

    • @Tone2town
      @Tone2town Год назад

      @@IamtheFerryMan it is cool to see someone that actually understands how good the Helix / hx stomp is . Some people don’t get it yet…they all love that Hype train . 😵🤣

  • @OldStreetDoc
    @OldStreetDoc Год назад +3

    It’s a weird thing… when one ‘product’ does something so different & so well, that it becomes it’s own ‘thing’. And the Klon Centaur definitely did just that. It’s almost a unicorn to me. I’ve seen it used in live performances a lot, and I’ve seen & played a lot of clones personally, but I’ve never even SEEN a Centaur before in person. To a lot of folks, myself included, I think it sort of became this mythical ‘idea’ of a sound almost. Hence the price tag I guess. From what I understand, he still occasionally makes them by direct order. Or at least he did. One day I’d like to have one… but that bubble will most definitely have to have popped by that time.

  • @Jimbowlcoach
    @Jimbowlcoach Год назад

    @RhettShull I love your videos! I don’t play guitar yet, but I always wondered what everything does, and you are skilled enough to show what you are talking about , I look forward to learning how to play some day

  • @huguesbailloeul
    @huguesbailloeul Год назад

    Rhett ! In my opinion your channel is the most understable, enjoyable and beautiful content on the internet for anyone who likes guitar and beautiful stuffs about it !

  • @samaitcheson7057
    @samaitcheson7057 Год назад +3

    I just got a Crazy Tube Circuits Unobtanium. Klon and 2 Dumbles in one pedal. Best sounding overdrive pedal I've ever had my hands on and cost 250GBP.

    • @Filippo-vj9oy
      @Filippo-vj9oy Год назад +1

      I ordered the same pedal on thomann and I’m looking forward to have it, glad to hear that sounds good since I basically made a blind purchase lol

    • @samaitcheson7057
      @samaitcheson7057 Год назад

      @@Filippo-vj9oy I don't think you'll be disappointed

  • @MiguelGebremedhin
    @MiguelGebremedhin Год назад +3

    One thing no one seems to mention is how HUGE the original circuit is. I would have to give up 3 or 4 other pedals just to make space for the original size Klon

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Год назад

      I mean that seems to be a thing in pedals until recently: the original Big Muff is in a huge case, but the circuit board is hilariously tiny.

  • @jimicrack29
    @jimicrack29 Год назад

    thank you too rhett for your time plus im waiting for the rain an storm to arrive soon.

  • @JT96708
    @JT96708 Год назад

    I love that intro jam! Keep that up.

  • @Mike_Spor
    @Mike_Spor Год назад +7

    Because they got the pedal itch? I bought a copy for $68 from a friend who makes killer pedals. If anyone is interested.

  • @banditsbikeco3439
    @banditsbikeco3439 Год назад +12

    The Klon…a 5k pedal most use as a glorified tone shifter rather then a gain pedal 😂 these always make me laugh

    • @willcraig6421
      @willcraig6421 Год назад +2

      Finnegan agrees!He can’t believe that anyone pays Elephant Bux for the “magical diodes” and then doesn’t use them!

    • @banditsbikeco3439
      @banditsbikeco3439 Год назад +4

      @@willcraig6421 isn’t it just the silliest thing? I won’t argue the tone is typically nice, but can also be achieved for a less then $200 pedal.

    • @God-sz4pf
      @God-sz4pf 10 месяцев назад

      @@banditsbikeco3439 there are clones that are the exact circuit for 200 dollar the only thing missing are the "magical diodes" which are the entire selling point of the klon even though they are normal germanium

  • @scottkidwellmusic9175
    @scottkidwellmusic9175 Год назад

    I appreciate the education on the Klon and Klones. That's a pretty cool and innovative circuit.
    I get the hype, the Klon does the thing. For my money, currently, I have a few Klones I'm more than happy with, including the Wildwood Mjolnir.
    Enjoyed the jams throughout the video, too! Interesting timestamp on the outro

  • @chrisday5341
    @chrisday5341 Год назад +1

    Killer video! Kind of surprised by the DS-1 portion. I'm a fan of the K circuit on the Nordvang Gain and the Centura. Not identical but gets the vibe!

  • @frankrizzo5710
    @frankrizzo5710 Год назад +26

    Because they have too much money, or they’re too picky and nothing will ever do.

    • @CodyMWI
      @CodyMWI Год назад +1

      People spend money on their passions. Look at the cost of real U47. If you have used one you will know why. Clones are pretty good now days but certain pieces of gear have a magic that can’t be reproduced. El8 distressors are another magic sound.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 Год назад

      @@CodyMWI Of course, but most of the magic is how it feels to the player or person using it, not necessarily how it sounds. If these things were only about how things sounded, people wouldn't pay $4,900 more than they needed to for that littlest of sonic differences, which are mostly imperceptible to the average listener.

    • @CodyMWI
      @CodyMWI Год назад

      @@kwyatt261 I’m pretty sure sounds and feel are interchangeable as a player. But …you caught me I’m an audio engineer. Musicians aren’t concerned with what the average listener hears it’s what they hear. Most people listen to compressed garbage in earbuds. As an engineer I do care how it sounds out of the studio monitors. As a composer I do care how it sounds in ideal listening conditions. But sonic quality does not equate to the magic I’m talking about. Technically it’s harmonic distortion that excites specific overtones and creates a unique quality. Regardless you are correct in a way vintage gear is for gear heads.

  • @ericskinner7355
    @ericskinner7355 Год назад +2

    When they first came out, they were $300 at a local music store. Most other dirt boxes were about $100. In hindsight maybe I should have spent three times as much...

  • @lazarus-lake
    @lazarus-lake Год назад +2

    I currently use the Nordvang ‘83 Drive, a BB and Klon 2-in-1. One of my favorite pedals.

  • @Lantertronics
    @Lantertronics Год назад

    Yes! Rhett! You did a really wonderful important thing that most people don't do with their comparison videos which is to actually dial in the clone instead of trying to set the knobs at exactly the same physical position. Most people don't realize that parts, in particular pots, have tolerances. An 10:00 setting on two 100K pots is not going to read the same between the two pots. Nobody manufacturing pedals is trying to bin their parts to a tighter tolerance than what a particular line of parts naturally offers. So, as you note, if you put two original Klons side by side, they will be slightly different, and to try to get them to sound the same you'd have to dial them in the same way. I suspect the biggest source of variation in Klons and Klon clones may be the weird ganged pot.

  • @tomas.lindroos
    @tomas.lindroos Год назад +6

    A friend of mine traded away his Klon sometimes in the late 90'es. In retrospect, maybe the worst deal ever. He got a Boss Metal Zone in exchange... ;)

    • @Koga_fan_013
      @Koga_fan_013 Год назад +1

      Bruh

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin Год назад

      Why would he do that? The Klon was a much more expensive pedal when he was released.
      Your friend is an idiot. Why trade a $225 new Klon, for a Metal Zone that could’ve been found for less than $100?

    • @nuthinbutlove
      @nuthinbutlove Год назад

      Geez 🙄

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад

      🤦‍♂️🤬😢

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Год назад

      Now you can sell that Klon and buy ten whole pedalboards of “Metal” pedals! 😂

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson9787 Год назад +3

    I’m pretty happy with my $100 klone
    For $5000 you could get a rig that sounds good enough without pedals

    • @222triple
      @222triple Год назад

      Bill designed the Klon ( with help from two MIT guys) to produce the sound of his guitar and amp in large venues that he could replicate in small venues.

  • @sicklefinger
    @sicklefinger Год назад

    I like your playin'. I don't even know what bands you play with but you got some tasteful licks. And the channel is pretty damn educational, too.

  • @jeffmazzei8520
    @jeffmazzei8520 Год назад +2

    Rhett there so many choices !! The Archer , Wampler Tumness ! All sound just as good ! Just like there is no magic powers in vintage guitars, amps and pedals ! So many choices that sound exactly like the Klon.

    • @godbyone
      @godbyone Год назад

      Archer is 99.4 percent same archer Jeff beck mod 100 percent same

  • @benbutterworth7584
    @benbutterworth7584 Год назад +8

    Sounds killer. But maybe not $5,000.

    • @thomasandersson9605
      @thomasandersson9605 Год назад +1

      I get it if someone have a lot of money but no sane person who doesn't do NOT need this.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад +1

      I'd pay that if you were guaranteed you couldn't "lose" money, if you had to sell. Let's face it, most people have a few grand that's not earning any interest in the bank.

  • @brandonbryson3317
    @brandonbryson3317 Год назад +3

    I mean, I can buy a high end amp and a high end guitar for that, so nah…not even remotely worth it. It’s been cloned so many times that it would be foolish to take this pedal out to a gig. It’s basically just a trophy piece for collectors. Total waste of money if you aren’t a rich collector.

  • @Benz2112
    @Benz2112 Год назад

    Josh really summed it up nicely with his comments. I remember being 13 years old and finding the early boutique pedal websites and thinking that I was a part of something special for knowing about stuff that wasn't Boss, MXR, or DOD. The pedal market has lots of stuff now that is built on hype, some of it very well justified, but there is a lot of builders that are killing it right now and are not being hyped. I bought a fuzz on Reverb for like $100 recently, and it is just a killer big muff style pedal, so there is something for everyone. I think a good takeaway from Dan's comments is that a lot of the magic here is from the blend of clean and dirty signal, and having an appreciation for the level of saturation juxtaposed with how much headroom you have to work with is important in shaping your tone.

  • @MagnumMuscle1000
    @MagnumMuscle1000 Год назад +1

    When Rhett turned up the gain control, I shouted out "Rock and Roll baby! Woooo!"

  • @offbeatbassgear
    @offbeatbassgear Год назад +15

    An absurd price for what's about $150 in electronic components, like so many other trends with gear.

    • @TedSchoenling
      @TedSchoenling Год назад +2

      I built one.. from scratch not a kit. it isn't even 150 in parts.. the box is the most expensive part in that you can put it together for less than 30 bucks.. easy.

    • @drmaster1258
      @drmaster1258 Год назад

      @@TedSchoenling Do you plans for it? Would also built me one, but don't have any experience with building pedals.

    • @DanielBobke
      @DanielBobke Год назад

      @@drmaster1258 Get the StewMac kit... it's really well done and fun to build. Many comparisons on RUclips with a real Klon and it is exact.

    • @offbeatbassgear
      @offbeatbassgear Год назад

      @@TedSchoenling I have the Ghost Drive Klon Klone kit from Stew Mac as a project. It looks do-able over a five hour afternoon, but I've not started it yet. I'm looking forward to it, and even if you buy the full kit you can do the whole thing for about $150 in solder and the kit and four or five lengths of wire. I'm hoping it goes okay....

    • @indegruv
      @indegruv Год назад +1

      imagine how much you're getting ripped off when you're buying a new car or house

  • @mikemorrisonmusic
    @mikemorrisonmusic Год назад +3

    No, it’s not worth $5k!

  • @Matt-1d
    @Matt-1d Год назад +2

    Such incredible tone out of the Klon! Too rich for my blood though, and my audience (houseplants and the family dog) don't care enough about my tone to justify the investment. However, I use a Wampler Tumnus Deluxe and absolutely love it. Thanks for the backing track! Sounds killer!

  • @thecheeseloaf6976
    @thecheeseloaf6976 Год назад +1

    love the intro jam, you should get guests to come on for a little jam. Live sound is best fr

  • @Hrithik23
    @Hrithik23 Год назад +3

    I know people hate Rhett a lot but I like him because he brings attention to very lesser known pedals like Klon
    Edit: how many times are you gonna make this video?

  • @alexander_winston
    @alexander_winston Год назад +12

    Most over hyped gear ever. My friend has a Klon, we placed it next to my MXR Fat Sugar, and there was no discernible difference. Except the $4,925.

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 Год назад +1

      I really like that jrockett Ikon thing. It’s pretty good. I put it in front of my Timmy and it works perfect together with a LP, 335, and my strat.

    • @alexander_winston
      @alexander_winston Год назад

      Nice!

  • @brentonwood1811
    @brentonwood1811 Год назад

    Love your demo from about 15:50 sounds awesome like you were really inspired by the Klon!. Have you done a full track because if not you should and release it - sounds fantastic! Well done!

  • @arustydodge2111
    @arustydodge2111 Год назад

    Great video RHETT! Love the breakdown of the pedal by the experts and you. 👍
    Personally that pedal is way too much 💰💰💰for me.
    I have, use and am very pleased with the WARM AUDIO CENTAVO. Great clone pedal and fantastic price😉.

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling Год назад +3

    no get a clone. you can copy a circuit and there is no magic there. if you think you are gonna sound better with a real one than a clone I have better ways to separate you from your money

    • @indegruv
      @indegruv Год назад +3

      maybe for simple guitar pedal circuits but not true for vintage type gear. the components are not made the same anymore, its even hard to get copper wiring these days.

    • @bobbarcus8310
      @bobbarcus8310 Год назад +1

      He covers parts in black tar So if it breaks that’s it

  • @chrish4858
    @chrish4858 Год назад +4

    did you know the English word "clone" actually comes from the name Klon as boutique builders scrambled for a word to describe replicating this masterpiece without breaking copyright?

    • @gregd637
      @gregd637 Год назад

      I really doubt. haha

  • @Birbdup
    @Birbdup Год назад

    That outro jam was so good, would love to hear more of the Falcon on the channel.

  • @LucasHaneman
    @LucasHaneman Год назад +1

    Love the track at the beginning! Sounds wonderful. This pedal certainly does something unique, but I don’t think it’s for everyone. Certainly not worth the money it’s going for now, and yes it’s easy to approximate the sound with other gear. In my opinion a players time is better spent finding under the radar pedals etc. that truly work with our hands and our rigs. In the long run this usually equates to less money spent on pedals, and more time spent practising and finding our own voice on the instrument. Of course just an opinion, but there are plenty of great options out there for overdrive pedals these days. Some of the alternatives mentioned in this video do a fantastic job and only cost $100 or so. :-)

  • @Varone26
    @Varone26 Год назад +3

    "Why Are People Paying $5,000 (or more) For The Klon?"
    Because a majority of our community is stupid.

  • @ColinDaviesGTR
    @ColinDaviesGTR Год назад +3

    most overrated piece of gear in existence

    • @mattrogers1946
      @mattrogers1946 Год назад

      Like a burst or a Dumble is overrated....

  • @bigdaddystinkeye
    @bigdaddystinkeye Год назад +2

    Bought my Centaur in mid 90's and have never been tempted to sell it. You had to call Bill to get one. I remember part of that conversation and he asked me what guitar and amp I was using. He seemed like a real ethical guy and didn't want o sell me something I couldn't use. It was, after all, a $225 unit new back then, over double what OD pedals were going for. I have bought a clone or two over the years (JHS, Rockett and a Klon KTR). To my ears they come close but not quite the same. It's probably just psychological. Still my favorite OD of all time. I also really like the JHS Morning Glory.

    • @gr8fuljon
      @gr8fuljon Год назад +1

      its NOT psychological -- the best ones only get about 95% of the way there.

  • @MR_Robbers
    @MR_Robbers Год назад

    Beauty groove dude

  • @gregrandallbtsr03
    @gregrandallbtsr03 Год назад

    Thanks Rhett. I've never played a Klon, but I really enjoy my Mythos Mjolnir Wildwood edition. Very musical, as you described.

  • @joetamm
    @joetamm Год назад +1

    I got the StewMac Ghost Drive a while back, it’s one of best sounding pedals I’ve had and was easy to build. I put up a demo of it also. There are plenty of good clones that will get you the tone and sounds you want.

  • @devinwilliams4038
    @devinwilliams4038 Год назад

    I have a Pedal Monsters Klon Klone and I absolutely love it. It stays on in front of my clean channel 100% of the time.

  • @stevesorrell9835
    @stevesorrell9835 Год назад

    Sidebar: Your t-shirt! Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut." The Floyd's most underrated album! Soooo great.
    Great video. You made it sing 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @ronnyskaar3737
    @ronnyskaar3737 Год назад

    I have the Soul Food by Elektrohamonix. Very happy with it. Fine video, Rhett

  • @drkaplin98
    @drkaplin98 Год назад +1

    The Sparkle Drive does the same thing with blending a clean signal mixed with a distortion circuit. It's a really nice pedal.

  • @wolfsoto
    @wolfsoto Год назад

    I own the J. Rockett Archer it's excellent Klon Clone. I too was hesitant until I pick one up and notice the difference it made when I stacked it in front of my drives and fuzzes. it made everything come to live.

  • @johnweeks6267
    @johnweeks6267 Год назад +1

    Great vid! Would love to see a review on the kanji pedal by lovepedal. The cream colored one especially

  • @rockstarr9000
    @rockstarr9000 Год назад +1

    Sounds gorgeous.

  • @MrJumboblimpjumbo
    @MrJumboblimpjumbo Год назад

    Rhett just wailin' at 4:15 AM...so jealous. One of your best videos yet.

  • @JosephCompton66
    @JosephCompton66 Год назад

    I just got the Wampler Tumnus. I love the sound. Could I afford a real one, sure. Am I good enough to tell the difference, not so much. I really appreciate all of the education you do here. I am pretty sure that I am going to add a Fender Deluxe Tone King Blond because of you. I live in a condo, and there is no way I can play a tube amp at volume for the sound. But with that amp’s power attenuation, it looks like it is the perfect practice amp out there. Thanks for all your help.

  • @koski666
    @koski666 Год назад +2

    I bought a KTR brand new at the regular price, and I love it very much. Sounds great to push my amp or to stack a fuzz into. Now...where is the vid about the Space Echo? :P

  • @hellodacky8715
    @hellodacky8715 Год назад +1

    I’ve been fortunate enough to play an original gold Centaur. It sounded incredible and while I understand the mystery behind it and why it might go for so much, there are so many options out there at such an affordable price that can be purchased that come pretty close to the Klon. I personally wouldn’t be able to justify purchasing an original Klon at such a high price or a KTR at the prices those are going for now too.

  • @maggieo
    @maggieo Год назад

    Love the Pink Floyd "The Final Cut" t-shirt, Rhett!

  • @Shiznitt_
    @Shiznitt_ Год назад

    Killed it with the intro song 🤘

  • @yumyumbirdMusic
    @yumyumbirdMusic Год назад +1

    Great Video, as always!
    But I guess Dan did not change his last name to Steinert? ;)

  • @wrensong07
    @wrensong07 Год назад

    Thanks for this video Rhett. I would definitely consider owning a clone clon.

  • @lorenzosteffani9480
    @lorenzosteffani9480 Год назад +1

    I usually use the fractal's Klon sim and it's great!

  • @whenvioletsturngrey9597
    @whenvioletsturngrey9597 Год назад +1

    Sounds wicked! Especially with the Falcon. That's a lot of money for a pedal, though....

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie Год назад

    I have a klone that the IT guy at my work made, he is old enough to have been around when they first came out and we work at a theatre that had some old sound desks. Lets just say he has a healthy stock of NOS parts. Mine is definitely unlike the kits you get and I do often wonder how it compares to an actual one. I think it's extremely close to what I heard in your video and others. Love the thing!

  • @DCDacey-cq6nb
    @DCDacey-cq6nb Год назад

    Love the way you play. Awesome. Great Klon tones too. I own the Decibelics Golden Horse. It’s said to be an EXACT copy. ($300) There’s a comparison on RUclips somewhere. I think it sounds awesome. I also own a Mosky Golden Horse (under $20 a few years ago). Are they the same, no. Are they close, sort of. The Nobels OD-1 and the Kingsley Paige are some very nice drives that change the sound even less than the Klon. But, I am a huge fan of the Klon. I use the Mosky for more gain, in a solo that I can’t play super clean. (Flying’ high again-Ozzy). Those taps are hard (for me) to play clean without a little more dirt. That being said, the “harshness” of the Mosky is actually nice. It’s hard to tell it’s on with a distorted sound anyway. I use the Marshall Bluebreaker pedal with my jam band, and I’ve found that to be “somewhat” transparent too. I never knew about the concentric pot in the Klon. Thank you much for that. Rock on! Rhett.

  • @dude_crush_
    @dude_crush_ Год назад +1

    For under $200 I'm very happy with my Warm Audio Centavo. I also really dig the mod switch, it basically beefs it up a bit. I like calling it The Klon Centavo.

  • @johnsawyer6145
    @johnsawyer6145 Год назад +1

    Is there any love for the Klon KTR? I love mine and use it as a gritty boost at the end of my fuzzes and overdrives. The KTR makes everything better. Keep up the great work Rhett! 🤘😊👍

  • @dpettycrypto
    @dpettycrypto Год назад

    I liked this video based on the intro jam. 💪🏻

  • @roberthollingsworth1675
    @roberthollingsworth1675 Год назад

    Rhett, I am building my own Klon clone, the circuit is out there in schematic form. Parts are available, I have even seen Stew Mac has a kit. Many China knock offs as well. I like to craft my own petals, cuz I can. I liked your video, you demo the real thing and explained why the Klon is prized. The original Klon models had black epoxy on the parts to prevent copying the design, but someone was able to recreate the circuit and released the specifics on the internet. I like your lessons!

  • @ronnieblanchet4072
    @ronnieblanchet4072 Год назад

    Dig the Gretsch man & the Klon demonstration. It’s nice to know there are quasi affordable clones out there, but in regard to the Gretsch-you gotta play ‘er more often!
    God bless ya n’ your family!
    -Soli Deo Gloria
    Ronnie

  • @peterellman9672
    @peterellman9672 Год назад

    I’ve had two, I don’t have them anymore. but I’ve become more interested in building my studio than my guitar stuff… don’t regret letting em go

  • @RobbieF
    @RobbieF Год назад +1

    I have a lot of fun stacking my Klon clone with my Fuzz Face and Blues Breaker clones.