I love what Joe Rogan said, Not everyone will have the same opportunities to hunt the best places. Not everyone has the nicest house or drives the most awesome cars! Be the best that you can be and do the best that you can do and be happy! And if others have more or have nicer things, be happy for those people!! Congrats to a great hunt with three great elk! I’ll never be able to hunt the same places as these guys but I’m legitimately excited to watch others hunt and do things that I love but will never be able to do and that’s still awesome!!
Yeah you can look at that way or you can look at how the hunting business has progressed. They're slowly making it a rich man's game. I've even noticed how within the industry guys sorta magically draw tags in areas or states that are drawing only that regular people have putting in for for years and even decades. That part I absolutely don't agree with.
@@paulhenry8586been saying this awhile about RUclips hunters and such have basically become modern day market hunting ….they shoot way more then they can eat across all states. So at some point it’s just about the views and money
You completely missed the point. He talks a lot about choices people make and how much effort they give those choices. Those guys are there because they made good choices and gave lots of effort. If you're not willing to make the good choices and put in the work it doesn't mean you shouldn't be happy with what you got, it does mean though that you don't get to complain about your situation. Cam says he used to do public land hunts in Oregon because that's all he could do AT THAT TIME. He never said that's all he would ever do. Cam would be just another casual if he had the mindset you're describing. He didn't take no for an answer. Now he gets the good hunts. You found comfort in words that were meant to inspire hard work, not comfort. The idea is that life isn't fair, work harder. Not that life isn't fair, enjoy what you got. Not everyone has goals like these guys. Maybe you goal is to be a good husband or whatever. Cam wants to hunt. He would sacrifice it all for his goals. That's why he gets the best trips. You found a way to make it sound like Joe was advocating for mediocrity. He was saying if you're mediocre, you can still be happy. Not that mediocrity is the goal bruh. These guys are savage. They were always going to end up there. When you say, "I'll never, this or ill never that" and believe it then you're probably right. I doubt thought like that cross Cam's mind and if they do they're shown the door quickly.
My 14 year old son drew a limited entry tag, ended up breaking his femur a week before the hunt. We changed tactics set him up in a lounge chair 100’ from the road and called them in. Missed a nice one on the 3rd day, called in a herd bull the last day had him set up too low to get a shot. Repositioned him with a couple hours left, had a nice 7x5 come in last 15 minutes of the hunt and made a perfect shot. What an amazing experience
Just completed my first archery elk trip this last week in Colorado at a highly populated unit. It was extremely tough hunting with little to no bugling. Ended up 200ft below the peak and got out of there with a legal bull in 5 days. The fact that it’s only a 3x3 but had 8” eye guards doesn’t even matter to me.. as far as I’m concerned this bull is a trophy due to the harsh environment and grit it took to get it done. I’m sure I value this bull the exact same as you gentleman and yours. The grind is the real trophy!
Im 55 and went on my first Elk hunt last year in San Juan National Forrest in CO. I was supposed to go two years ago but had a cardiac arrest on my neighbors porch and ended up dying. Needless to say, Im alive and kickin (Glory be to God) but when I recovered and got off the Statins and Beta Blockers I started getting in shape to go hunting elk. The ride out from Pa to CO was exciting but when you start seeing the Rockies you heart starts pounding faster. Our Camp was at 8k (I live at 500ft) so I was already feeling "it". We started in the day before the season and made it up to 11k, and with in 18 hours were forced off the mountain due to a severe snow storm. Spent the rest of the time searching for the Elk and walking miles upon miles each day. We got one on day 3 but I wasnt lucky enough to get one myself. This year we are heading back and hunting a different area. I am hooked and I will be doing this as long as my body allows me to. I am Airborne Infantry and this Elk hunting is by far the most physical and mental abuse I have done to myself since my time Airborne. I have been busting my ass for the past 6 months to get ready for this year. I was calling the others in my group counting down the months. We talk on a regular basis and only about one thing! ELK HUNTING. I have not had a chance to Bow hunt Elk but I want to experience it one of these days. I hunt whitetail in Pa with a Bow (Pa rifle season is scary). Point is, Elk hunting out west is addictive and I am an addict! Making my life better both mentally and physically. Great Video, happy for you all that you were successful! God Bless!
Thank you for your service Chris. I'm 55 as well. Shot my first elk with a rifle. I couldn't believe how exciting and challenging it was. Shot a couple more with a rifle in the next few years. Then got skunked on an archery hunt. Never drew my bow. But the effort required to get close, the challenge, the physicality.....I too, am an elk addict. I will only hunt with a bow from here on out. Killed one two years ago with my bow and I had to sit down before I fell down from the adrenaline dump. Killed a decent Colorado 5x6 last week with my bow and it was the same feeling. Good luck to you. Get one or two or ten even with your gun. But as a fellow whitetail hunter(Michigan), once you get one with string and stick, i suspect you will be hooked like me. So glad you are getting a second chance at life. God Bless
Great pod, thank you for sharing your stories. I just spent 5 days hunting the Colorado Grand Mesa for Elk. I didn’t hear a single bugle or see an elk. I saw everything else, bears, moose, deer and even wolves. I drove 17 hours from California and loved every minute of my experience. I didn’t get to punch my tag and that’s fine, I will shoot everyday and keep hammering.
I just wanted to jump in and say thank you to the Joe Rogan Podcast for sparking my interest in bowhunting. I've been listening for years, and the conversations about hunting have inspired me to dive into this incredible lifestyle. It’s not a cheap hobby, but it’s definitely rewarding. While I haven’t had the chance to hunt yet, I’m gradually buying the gear I need and prepping for when the time comes. I’m really excited for that day! On another note, I’m also an investor, working hard to build my portfolio so I can enjoy those amazing hunting trips like you guys. Luckily, time’s on my side, and I’m making the most of it. Right now, I’m focused on getting more gear and healing my back to be fully ready. Cheers to more hunting and building wealth! Appreciate your passion!
Just took my 12 year old son on his first buffalo hunt in the north of Australia. I guided up there for years but it was my first time hunting back there since i left the NT 12 years ago. He took a trophy bull with a .458 win mag. Couldnt be prouder.
Harvested a mule deer buck opening day this year. On Monday I took my 6 year old daughter with me hunting. We successfully harvested a whitetail doe. All public land. Went and picked up another whitetail doe fawn tag. Still have my cow calf elk tag to fill and my wife's deer tag. It's been a successful season so far and it is only my 2nd season doing archery!
Two things. 1. Joe, I know you won’t read this, but I had to call my 13y/o son into the room to hear the “addicted to tough stuff” speech. Outstanding stuff. 2. With as much as all of you shoot targets, are you always shooting broad heads, or do you swap to them closer to season?
Congrats fellas on the successful hunt. Enjoy all of y’all’s content. Been listening to JRE for years. I was listening to Endure 3 years ago I decided to buy a bow. Solo I took my 1st archery kill & elk (cow) this year. Opening morning in Utah, less than an hour after sunrise. Got the Mule on my Mathews and shooting the Evolution Hydes, aim for a pass through! Those broad heads are great. Shoots like a field point. Deployed, big wound channel, blood trail and pass through. Have 2 more tags I am hoping to fill this year.
Just Spent 10 Days with my son Elk hunting in the backcountry of Montana.... hiked around 10 miles a day.... heard about 5 bugles..... saw about 50 elk ..... the wolvws the reintroduced have the elk silent...I wish we could have " hunted " in a place like this
I always love when Cam brings up the MUST BE NICE saying…its 100% true. Dont hate on guys that have earned the money and spent years to be able to live the hunting lifestyle. Joe is also right…not everyone gets the same thing in life. Im a blue collar hunter….and I realize that im probably not going to ever be able to Elk hunt. But i dont hate the guys who do…good for them…and I enjoy watching their youtube videos of the stalk, hunt, shot , processing. I live vicariously through it. I still get out and hunt whitetail and bear and turkey…..and Im still happy as hell.
This was my first year elk hunting and my first year hunting with a bow. It was definitely a struggle on public land! I’m in Oregon and the unit we were going to hunt in was near forest fires so we scheduled it later in the month. By the time we got to the unit all the elk had been pushed onto private land. But the report that I heard was 14 bulls got taken out of just the area we were in. It was our fault for not planning accordingly and to do better research. We could have been one of those guys taking a bull out in the first week. Next year we are going to be set up and ready on opening day. Everything to me is experience earned and knowledge learned. But the overall experience was still incredible. Been practicing my elk bugle and had a bull respond to me a few times. Saw some beautiful country. I also had a mule deer tag so I was able to chase around some bucks and I got a pretty decent fork and horn. First deer with my bow. There are lots of hunting opportunities out there. Anyone who bitches and moans about people doing premium hunts are just jealous and lazy. I wish the conversation around hunting wasn’t between hunters arguing with each other and more about or love for the experience.
Been hunting my ass off on public land Idaho. If any of us had these guys resources we would hunt private as well. No hate at all just got to work harder!
The place you guys hunted is a dream for any bow hunter! That place is chuck full of elk. I've watched the helicopters go to the public land side where I was to push the elk on the ranch you guys were on.
I think Cam probably hunted like the rest of us for a while, years ago. But those days are gone. And I'd still challenge any of these dudes to try to make content on a DIY public land Elk hunt right now. No guides. No outfitters. No tips. No BS. Straight up regular guy suckfest.
I’ve only made one DIY trip and it was this year. First ever archery elk experience and was fortunate to find success. I’ll continue the grind in the future but 10-5 years down the line I will certainly pay the money for the increased trophy/experience. Nothing wrong with putting the monetary value in increased odds of success and trophy size. Can’t hate them for having the means to make it happen.
Cam & Joe, I'm a guy who, more likely than not, will never get a chance to find that trail head or experience the feeling of being in a beautiful part of our country hunting and hearing the racks cracking, or having a bud come over the radio shouting and trembling "I got a monster"....fuck all the haters and tree huggers! I'm living vicariously through you guys watching and listening about that perfect hunt! Please keep doing what you're doing and remember, Fuck you, Work Harder!! 💯🖕🙏 beautiful beautiful
Great pod! Happy for all three of us guys! Could see the excitement in y’all’s face from this trips success! Congrats and well deserved! Joe… you’re the f’ing man love ya
Trout fishing for wild fish is the exact same way honestly trout fishing in general you can directly compare it to any other type of hunting you have to put in the time find the places and you have to get away from where other people are and this could mean that a 6-inch fish is actually a trophy a 10-inch brook trout is a trophy it's just about understanding the surroundings that you're in and the pressure it receives and how that animal can thrive in those conditions it's not easy you have to completely think about food source air pressure how many human beings they see what etymology of the Flies you're throwing where do they sit in the water column and that might change a couple of times during the day are they going after nymphs or are they going after fully gestated flies and midges
Sure some amazing animals gentlemen kudos looks like such a great time. Hope to see you collaborate with Corey Jacobson of Elk101 I think it'd be a great hunt waiting to be made!
I hear Rogan saying his bit about "this is how wild animals are, this is how they behave" as if to justify maybe that hunting pressured land is not "natural". We have been hunting since humans have existed, we are very much a part of the natural pressure on hunting. Natives, nomadic peoples followed herds and there were no seasons on game and animals were pressured. Its in the historical record in earliest recorded histories that animals were often hunted to low numbers and then people moved with the herds. I would argue that going into a OTC unit on public land is far more "natural" than hunting on a private reserve or private property with limited hunting interaction. One thing is those places are naturally going to have less predators because typically land owners manage for predators but secondly animals have just always been pressured by hunters since day one...
Yeah hunting areas very seldom hunted might be less natural. But I guess it depends on how we define natural? What was the state of nature where elk lived for most of their evolution? Yes they were hunted by humans but there were far less humans. Thoughts?
I live in a state that isn’t known for big whitetail or even a lot. I don’t care, I hunt I enjoy the woods, I enjoy talking to other hunters. It’s all fun and filling the freezer. Maybe one day I’ll make it to elk hunts.
If you’re serious about elk hunting, and by that I mean harvesting an elk every year and being in the 1% of hunters that do so; you need to start by not introducing excuses like over pressure and crowding. I’m into elk and have mature bulls bugling every time I go out on OTC public land hunts. It is possible, you just have to keep refining your process.
Same here. lm reading your comment while l eat this bowl of elk chili. Taken on public land like always in ldaho. You just have learn your craft.... >>>---------‐--------->
I have no problem with these guys doing this. I have a problem with the company who sets it up. I have land that neighbors their fence line and they will fly helicopters all around, the weeks leading up to hunting season and push all the elk onto their property. They have done it for YEARS!! My property is crawling with elk all year but come the end of Aug the choppers start flying and herds upon herds are pushed onto their land. Then you won’t see a single elk again until after hunting season. So much for the little guy hunting public land.
It's hilarious to watch these guys for years talk about how "everybody needs to hunt, we need more hunters." And now they are talking about overcrowding in the woods. if theres too many people hunting, just spend more money, it's that simple. Yeah, thanks a lot, guys.
There are still plenty of over the counter unit opportunities in many states that people are successful every year, is it as easy as it was before more people were in the woods? Nope, but does it make it that much more fulfilling when you are successful? Hell yes it does!
Joe got me into hunting and always greatful for that. I still chase elk ever year wether its on my tag or buddies. I agree that hunting on private properties is obviously better and if you can affort to do it, then I am all for it. But getting that public land bull will always trump that high fence or reservation trophy in my eyes. I still have hunted some limited units for high quality opportunties so I can totally relate to ideal Elk woods experience people are searching for. Its just a rare opportunity on public land.
Applied for a special draw unit in Montana, got lucky and drew in 2 years vs the standard 15 it takes, got luckier and shot a 7x6 day 2 into hunting. The preparation, cutting it up and the packing out meat with buddies…you just don’t get it until you do it. I blacked out and came to mid spider monkey jump into my buddy’s arms 😂
Hey man, I know I didn't sacrifice and do the things to be where these three are. I am lucky to even be as well off as I am now given how stupid I was in my early 20's. I have a camp on 70,000 acres of public. I love it and don't get mad at the guys that can afford great hunting on private. Some of those guys like to come down to my world because we get to do things they can't on their private. I get to enjoy my area all year. I get my 2 or 3 deer, a couple pigs, squirrels, and plenty fish.
Another part that I’ve noticed is how your mindset has to change to be in the woods as opposed to civilization. When I go home my mind is still in the woods until I get a good night’s sleep.
Many haters out there these days. Don’t forget, this is just entertainment, a pod-cast and You have the freedom to listen or turn it off. All the hardcore DIYers listening would most likely go on one of these outfitted hunts if sponsored… it would be the hunt of a lifetime. Instead of hating listen to what they are saying, cause there are nuggets of intel out there. I remember being a kid at hunting camp 40 some odd years ago it was common to listen to those at the campfire with more knowledge than you hoping they would share a tidbit information as the fire winded down and we went to bed. No one ever hated on those conversions. If you truly love elk hunting, you can always learn from people who have had success in life in general. Stay frosty, keep hammering!
“Oregon isn’t great for elk hunting” Damn, Oregon is 38% the size of my province and has 107,000 more elk then we do. Their elk density is 1.35/sq mile. Ours is 0.10/sq mile.
The Elk definitely look less weary on "unit" hunt videos especially early season. Like to know how you guys view wolves changing their habits. Getting harder with them getting liberated in states plus more hunters.
working hard is only half the equation. You also have to know the right people to talk to and work for. Because if you work hard for someone who doesn't understand your value or underestimates the effort the hard work means nothing.
3 legends of the game…Adam is an absolute savage and as hardcore bow hunter as it gets…glad he got to get over here and tag a bull! Rumors of them trying to outlaw bow hunting in Australia
YOU can have the dream if you have the big bucks. OR famous rich friends.Contacts etc. Not many empty places these days. Nearly every creek or trail head has a camp. Glad i live in western australia. Next to know one huge area. In idaho at the moment,fires, heat next to know bugaling. Its changed in 17 years.
Ive liked Joe since the beginning of his podcast, but listening to him talk about hunting public lands is cringe, wished Cam would offer to take Joe on a OTC archery elk hunt in Colorado, then he would really appreciate the places he hunts
Hard, he always says majority of hunting in New Zealand is private high fence and as a kiwi I can tell ya that’s pretty inaccurate. Watch Lord of the rings ffs 😂 deer & what not everywhere in those mountains….. Maybe if you only hunted with professional outfitters that’s something you’d say? 🤷♂️
One can acknowledge the importance of meritocracy while understanding that determinism renders free will an illusion. You are not the author of the conditions which create success, but it's still important to try and reach one's potential, because our actions are part of the causal chain that produces outcomes, even if we can't take credit for them.
I dont care where they hunt, but the idea get a better job and making an ass ton of money, and you could too... that's not reality for regular humans. Worker harder but sometimes it doesnt matter how hard you work. The barrier to entry is too great for the majority of Americans.
Trying hard but struggling to see the sentiment in a lot of the conversation here. I think its a pretty bad look to somewhat talk down to hunters who don't have the means to hunt the way you do. No one is denying that your hunts are hard work but when you nail 3 mature bulls in one hunt when some lifelong and equally, if not more, committed hunters get skunked year after year its pretty clear that its not the same ball game being played.
They aren’t talking down to hunters with less opportunity. They’re talking about people who complain to them for the hunting opportunities they have even though they earned them.
Fun podcast. Life isn't fair and this is okay. But, to say it is all about choice and effort is short sided. We don't need to compensate for inequity but saying you have special opportunity just because you earned is not appreciating your origin of birth or being in the right place at the right time. We don't have to apologize for our place in life. Someone will always have more than you; more money, better genetics, better relationships or maybe they lost a child and missed the best job opportunity they will ever have. Life is not as simple as you just made the better choice over everyone else around you.
I live in Utah grew up hunting the Wasatch and uintah mnts. Not super stoked with the management of our resources. Let to many antler less tags and non resident tags.
I love what Joe Rogan said, Not everyone will have the same opportunities to hunt the best places. Not everyone has the nicest house or drives the most awesome cars! Be the best that you can be and do the best that you can do and be happy! And if others have more or have nicer things, be happy for those people!! Congrats to a great hunt with three great elk! I’ll never be able to hunt the same places as these guys but I’m legitimately excited to watch others hunt and do things that I love but will never be able to do and that’s still awesome!!
Perfectly said!
Yeah you can look at that way or you can look at how the hunting business has progressed. They're slowly making it a rich man's game. I've even noticed how within the industry guys sorta magically draw tags in areas or states that are drawing only that regular people have putting in for for years and even decades. That part I absolutely don't agree with.
@@paulhenry8586been saying this awhile about RUclips hunters and such have basically become modern day market hunting ….they shoot way more then they can eat across all states. So at some point it’s just about the views and money
I have Joe's old quote of "Be the HERO of your own Movie" framed. Similar and such a good message
You completely missed the point. He talks a lot about choices people make and how much effort they give those choices. Those guys are there because they made good choices and gave lots of effort. If you're not willing to make the good choices and put in the work it doesn't mean you shouldn't be happy with what you got, it does mean though that you don't get to complain about your situation. Cam says he used to do public land hunts in Oregon because that's all he could do AT THAT TIME. He never said that's all he would ever do. Cam would be just another casual if he had the mindset you're describing. He didn't take no for an answer. Now he gets the good hunts.
You found comfort in words that were meant to inspire hard work, not comfort. The idea is that life isn't fair, work harder. Not that life isn't fair, enjoy what you got.
Not everyone has goals like these guys. Maybe you goal is to be a good husband or whatever. Cam wants to hunt. He would sacrifice it all for his goals. That's why he gets the best trips.
You found a way to make it sound like Joe was advocating for mediocrity. He was saying if you're mediocre, you can still be happy. Not that mediocrity is the goal bruh. These guys are savage. They were always going to end up there. When you say, "I'll never, this or ill never that" and believe it then you're probably right. I doubt thought like that cross Cam's mind and if they do they're shown the door quickly.
My 14 year old son drew a limited entry tag, ended up breaking his femur a week before the hunt. We changed tactics set him up in a lounge chair 100’ from the road and called them in. Missed a nice one on the 3rd day, called in a herd bull the last day had him set up too low to get a shot. Repositioned him with a couple hours left, had a nice 7x5 come in last 15 minutes of the hunt and made a perfect shot.
What an amazing experience
Badass
Hell yeah. I got some trout this summer.
Way to make it happen for your boy nice work dad
Nice story 😮 what an exciting life you 😂
Just completed my first archery elk trip this last week in Colorado at a highly populated unit. It was extremely tough hunting with little to no bugling. Ended up 200ft below the peak and got out of there with a legal bull in 5 days. The fact that it’s only a 3x3 but had 8” eye guards doesn’t even matter to me.. as far as I’m concerned this bull is a trophy due to the harsh environment and grit it took to get it done. I’m sure I value this bull the exact same as you gentleman and yours. The grind is the real trophy!
Im 55 and went on my first Elk hunt last year in San Juan National Forrest in CO. I was supposed to go two years ago but had a cardiac arrest on my neighbors porch and ended up dying. Needless to say, Im alive and kickin (Glory be to God) but when I recovered and got off the Statins and Beta Blockers I started getting in shape to go hunting elk. The ride out from Pa to CO was exciting but when you start seeing the Rockies you heart starts pounding faster. Our Camp was at 8k (I live at 500ft) so I was already feeling "it". We started in the day before the season and made it up to 11k, and with in 18 hours were forced off the mountain due to a severe snow storm. Spent the rest of the time searching for the Elk and walking miles upon miles each day. We got one on day 3 but I wasnt lucky enough to get one myself. This year we are heading back and hunting a different area. I am hooked and I will be doing this as long as my body allows me to. I am Airborne Infantry and this Elk hunting is by far the most physical and mental abuse I have done to myself since my time Airborne. I have been busting my ass for the past 6 months to get ready for this year. I was calling the others in my group counting down the months. We talk on a regular basis and only about one thing! ELK HUNTING. I have not had a chance to Bow hunt Elk but I want to experience it one of these days. I hunt whitetail in Pa with a Bow (Pa rifle season is scary). Point is, Elk hunting out west is addictive and I am an addict! Making my life better both mentally and physically. Great Video, happy for you all that you were successful! God Bless!
Keep us updated! Hope you get your Bull!
Glad you were able to overcome that and do something as cool as elk hunting. Keep it up and stay strong.
Thank you for your service Chris. I'm 55 as well. Shot my first elk with a rifle. I couldn't believe how exciting and challenging it was. Shot a couple more with a rifle in the next few years. Then got skunked on an archery hunt. Never drew my bow. But the effort required to get close, the challenge, the physicality.....I too, am an elk addict. I will only hunt with a bow from here on out. Killed one two years ago with my bow and I had to sit down before I fell down from the adrenaline dump. Killed a decent Colorado 5x6 last week with my bow and it was the same feeling. Good luck to you. Get one or two or ten even with your gun. But as a fellow whitetail hunter(Michigan), once you get one with string and stick, i suspect you will be hooked like me. So glad you are getting a second chance at life. God Bless
Great pod, thank you for sharing your stories. I just spent 5 days hunting the Colorado Grand Mesa for Elk. I didn’t hear a single bugle or see an elk. I saw everything else, bears, moose, deer and even wolves. I drove 17 hours from California and loved every minute of my experience. I didn’t get to punch my tag and that’s fine, I will shoot everyday and keep hammering.
Do you have any proof of wolves on the Grand Mesa?
That’s it bro. To put one down would be awesome but the adventure is worth the trip all by itself in my opinion.
I just wanted to jump in and say thank you to the Joe Rogan Podcast for sparking my interest in bowhunting. I've been listening for years, and the conversations about hunting have inspired me to dive into this incredible lifestyle. It’s not a cheap hobby, but it’s definitely rewarding. While I haven’t had the chance to hunt yet, I’m gradually buying the gear I need and prepping for when the time comes. I’m really excited for that day!
On another note, I’m also an investor, working hard to build my portfolio so I can enjoy those amazing hunting trips like you guys. Luckily, time’s on my side, and I’m making the most of it. Right now, I’m focused on getting more gear and healing my back to be fully ready. Cheers to more hunting and building wealth!
Appreciate your passion!
Just took my 12 year old son on his first buffalo hunt in the north of Australia. I guided up there for years but it was my first time hunting back there since i left the NT 12 years ago. He took a trophy bull with a .458 win mag. Couldnt be prouder.
Harvested a mule deer buck opening day this year. On Monday I took my 6 year old daughter with me hunting. We successfully harvested a whitetail doe. All public land. Went and picked up another whitetail doe fawn tag. Still have my cow calf elk tag to fill and my wife's deer tag. It's been a successful season so far and it is only my 2nd season doing archery!
How did you get started?
Two things.
1. Joe, I know you won’t read this, but I had to call my 13y/o son into the room to hear the “addicted to tough stuff” speech. Outstanding stuff.
2. With as much as all of you shoot targets, are you always shooting broad heads, or do you swap to them closer to season?
Congrats fellas on the successful hunt. Enjoy all of y’all’s content. Been listening to JRE for years. I was listening to Endure 3 years ago I decided to buy a bow. Solo I took my 1st archery kill & elk (cow) this year. Opening morning in Utah, less than an hour after sunrise. Got the Mule on my Mathews and shooting the Evolution Hydes, aim for a pass through! Those broad heads are great. Shoots like a field point. Deployed, big wound channel, blood trail and pass through. Have 2 more tags I am hoping to fill this year.
Our deer season starts next month.. cant wait. Never tried elk hunting but hopefully one day. Thanks for all the info fellas. Much appreciated
Shout out from northern utah! I'm glad y'all come and snatch our sweet elk!
Just Spent 10 Days with my son Elk hunting in the backcountry of Montana.... hiked around 10 miles a day.... heard about 5 bugles..... saw about 50 elk ..... the wolvws the reintroduced have the elk silent...I wish we could have " hunted " in a place like this
So did you not listen to anything they just talked about? Literally addressed this exact comment for the first 30 minutes.
Just trying to deter hunters from going there
@@RodBermanThe lords work
The feral wolves that are not indigenous to the area. As in ,idaho ,Oregon washington,etc. That killed of the indigenous wolves in these areas.???
Work harder poosay
I always love when Cam brings up the MUST BE NICE saying…its 100% true. Dont hate on guys that have earned the money and spent years to be able to live the hunting lifestyle. Joe is also right…not everyone gets the same thing in life. Im a blue collar hunter….and I realize that im probably not going to ever be able to Elk hunt. But i dont hate the guys who do…good for them…and I enjoy watching their youtube videos of the stalk, hunt, shot , processing. I live vicariously through it. I still get out and hunt whitetail and bear and turkey…..and Im still happy as hell.
Adam Greentree with a full beard is unrecognizable, that caught me off guard, I was like " but with Adam Greentree??"
This was my first year elk hunting and my first year hunting with a bow. It was definitely a struggle on public land! I’m in Oregon and the unit we were going to hunt in was near forest fires so we scheduled it later in the month. By the time we got to the unit all the elk had been pushed onto private land. But the report that I heard was 14 bulls got taken out of just the area we were in. It was our fault for not planning accordingly and to do better research. We could have been one of those guys taking a bull out in the first week. Next year we are going to be set up and ready on opening day. Everything to me is experience earned and knowledge learned.
But the overall experience was still incredible. Been practicing my elk bugle and had a bull respond to me a few times. Saw some beautiful country. I also had a mule deer tag so I was able to chase around some bucks and I got a pretty decent fork and horn. First deer with my bow. There are lots of hunting opportunities out there. Anyone who bitches and moans about people doing premium hunts are just jealous and lazy. I wish the conversation around hunting wasn’t between hunters arguing with each other and more about or love for the experience.
*Spends the week wondering where new Rogan eps are. * *wonders if he is maybe elk hunting.* *sees this post*..😮
Bearded Adam really caught me off guard 😂
Mate, I always love Rogan and Hanes forever ❤❤❤
Joe guy is good on this podcast he should start his own!
And have a big wood table decorated with skulls.
I’m stoked. Looked for a Rogan episode today…got this…even better!
Joes right hand looks massive!!
Been hunting my ass off on public land Idaho. If any of us had these guys resources we would hunt private as well. No hate at all just got to work harder!
Just curious and you don’t need to say where exactly but is it northern Idaho? Use to live there and miss it so much!
Swan valley swan lake beautiful area
@@bangbangninergang1992 this is out in central Idaho NE of McCall
Work harder at my job so I can make more money to buy hunts like this? Or work harder in the woods and miss time from work and still eat tag soup?
@@RagnarLothbrok2222 nice. I lived in post falls/CDA area for 9 years. Didn’t go to central idaho much sadly!
Hopefully we get an episode of the hunt. would love to see a lift, run, shoot with joe also
Hopefully it’s on KSL outdoors here in Utah, as I believe Adam Eakle hunted with them that week.
The place you guys hunted is a dream for any bow hunter! That place is chuck full of elk. I've watched the helicopters go to the public land side where I was to push the elk on the ranch you guys were on.
That’s insane. These guys fucking over other hunters by pushing herds onto their property. Whats the ranch called?
Great Post Hunt Chat! I saw the picture! Awesome hunt! Congratulations BoyZ!
I think Cam probably hunted like the rest of us for a while, years ago. But those days are gone. And I'd still challenge any of these dudes to try to make content on a DIY public land Elk hunt right now. No guides. No outfitters. No tips. No BS. Straight up regular guy suckfest.
Cam still does DIY hunting on his Oregon hunts, none of those are guided
@@ihackfootballhaters gonna hate
I’ve only made one DIY trip and it was this year. First ever archery elk experience and was fortunate to find success. I’ll continue the grind in the future but 10-5 years down the line I will certainly pay the money for the increased trophy/experience. Nothing wrong with putting the monetary value in increased odds of success and trophy size. Can’t hate them for having the means to make it happen.
I never expressed any hate. Only stating an opinion
Why would they want to?
Cam & Joe, I'm a guy who, more likely than not, will never get a chance to find that trail head or experience the feeling of being in a beautiful part of our country hunting and hearing the racks cracking, or having a bud come over the radio shouting and trembling "I got a monster"....fuck all the haters and tree huggers!
I'm living vicariously through you guys watching and listening about that perfect hunt! Please keep doing what you're doing and remember,
Fuck you, Work Harder!!
💯🖕🙏
beautiful beautiful
Great pod! Happy for all three of us guys! Could see the excitement in y’all’s face from this trips success! Congrats and well deserved! Joe… you’re the f’ing man love ya
A process driven existence is the key to life, hunting, and relationships
Love this long form hangout and recap of your hunt. Do this more often!
I second that.
Trout fishing for wild fish is the exact same way honestly trout fishing in general you can directly compare it to any other type of hunting you have to put in the time find the places and you have to get away from where other people are and this could mean that a 6-inch fish is actually a trophy a 10-inch brook trout is a trophy it's just about understanding the surroundings that you're in and the pressure it receives and how that animal can thrive in those conditions it's not easy you have to completely think about food source air pressure how many human beings they see what etymology of the Flies you're throwing where do they sit in the water column and that might change a couple of times during the day are they going after nymphs or are they going after fully gestated flies and midges
Thank you guys 🙏 All 3 🐐’s
Time time time!! God I'd love to hunt with these guys!
Sure some amazing animals gentlemen kudos looks like such a great time. Hope to see you collaborate with Corey Jacobson of Elk101 I think it'd be a great hunt waiting to be made!
Absolutely
Ever sense covid I haven't been able to afford to take off and elk hunt..but man I miss the amazing times you have when doing it
I loved the “if I wasn’t me I’d hate me too bc I’d be jealous”
Nothing but jealousy and RESPECT from over here
Great conversation. Also dig the love for Lusk.
The Rage Extreme Chisel Tip has done very very well for me this season!
I hear Rogan saying his bit about "this is how wild animals are, this is how they behave" as if to justify maybe that hunting pressured land is not "natural".
We have been hunting since humans have existed, we are very much a part of the natural pressure on hunting.
Natives, nomadic peoples followed herds and there were no seasons on game and animals were pressured. Its in the historical record in earliest recorded histories that animals were often hunted to low numbers and then people moved with the herds.
I would argue that going into a OTC unit on public land is far more "natural" than hunting on a private reserve or private property with limited hunting interaction. One thing is those places are naturally going to have less predators because typically land owners manage for predators but secondly animals have just always been pressured by hunters since day one...
Yeah hunting areas very seldom hunted might be less natural. But I guess it depends on how we define natural? What was the state of nature where elk lived for most of their evolution? Yes they were hunted by humans but there were far less humans. Thoughts?
I live in a state that isn’t known for big whitetail or even a lot. I don’t care, I hunt I enjoy the woods, I enjoy talking to other hunters. It’s all fun and filling the freezer. Maybe one day I’ll make it to elk hunts.
Awesome start to the week 🤌
If you’re serious about elk hunting, and by that I mean harvesting an elk every year and being in the 1% of hunters that do so; you need to start by not introducing excuses like over pressure and crowding. I’m into elk and have mature bulls bugling every time I go out on OTC public land hunts. It is possible, you just have to keep refining your process.
Say it louder for the people in the back!!
Same here. lm reading your comment while l eat this bowl of elk chili. Taken on public land like always in ldaho. You just have learn your craft....
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Great talk! I watch Joe all the time, nice to see and hear from Adam again! Tons of knowledge between the three of you!
I have no problem with these guys doing this. I have a problem with the company who sets it up. I have land that neighbors their fence line and they will fly helicopters all around, the weeks leading up to hunting season and push all the elk onto their property. They have done it for YEARS!! My property is crawling with elk all year but come the end of Aug the choppers start flying and herds upon herds are pushed onto their land. Then you won’t see a single elk again until after hunting season. So much for the little guy hunting public land.
Wow, what a bunch of Jack asses. Thanks for sharing.
It's hilarious to watch these guys for years talk about how "everybody needs to hunt, we need more hunters." And now they are talking about overcrowding in the woods. if theres too many people hunting, just spend more money, it's that simple. Yeah, thanks a lot, guys.
There are still plenty of over the counter unit opportunities in many states that people are successful every year, is it as easy as it was before more people were in the woods? Nope, but does it make it that much more fulfilling when you are successful? Hell yes it does!
Killer Episode!! Another positive energy podcast, and sum good ole hunting vibes. Keep Hammering!
Lusk Archery Adventures is incredibly detailed and exciting to watch.
😂😂 “Now we’re besties!” - Joe 4:44
Lol as soon as bow season is over with I’m counting down the days till the next one!😂
Joe got me into hunting and always greatful for that. I still chase elk ever year wether its on my tag or buddies. I agree that hunting on private properties is obviously better and if you can affort to do it, then I am all for it. But getting that public land bull will always trump that high fence or reservation trophy in my eyes. I still have hunted some limited units for high quality opportunties so I can totally relate to ideal Elk woods experience people are searching for. Its just a rare opportunity on public land.
I love this so much, I love talking gear!
I highly recommend the EZ V sight!
It makes everything simple especially the fact that you don’t need a range finder plus it cured my target panic
Applied for a special draw unit in Montana, got lucky and drew in 2 years vs the standard 15 it takes, got luckier and shot a 7x6 day 2 into hunting. The preparation, cutting it up and the packing out meat with buddies…you just don’t get it until you do it. I blacked out and came to mid spider monkey jump into my buddy’s arms 😂
You guys said it so well...its ohnestly insane...its nice to hear others feel the same way about hunting.
L4TR
Hey man, I know I didn't sacrifice and do the things to be where these three are. I am lucky to even be as well off as I am now given how stupid I was in my early 20's. I have a camp on 70,000 acres of public. I love it and don't get mad at the guys that can afford great hunting on private. Some of those guys like to come down to my world because we get to do things they can't on their private. I get to enjoy my area all year. I get my 2 or 3 deer, a couple pigs, squirrels, and plenty fish.
A pinch of Santino makes any podcast a hit👌🏻 welcome to the biz🤣
Great talk guys, like i was there.
From Down under.
Love the couch vibez
Only 5 minutes in and It’s so awesome
God placed me in the best place on earth I love Utah with all my soul
Utah is amazing! I hope Adam Eakle does a ksl outdoors show!
Another part that I’ve noticed is how your mindset has to change to be in the woods as opposed to civilization.
When I go home my mind is still in the woods until I get a good night’s sleep.
Many haters out there these days. Don’t forget, this is just entertainment, a pod-cast and You have the freedom to listen or turn it off. All the hardcore DIYers listening would most likely go on one of these outfitted hunts if sponsored… it would be the hunt of a lifetime. Instead of hating listen to what they are saying, cause there are nuggets of intel out there. I remember being a kid at hunting camp 40 some odd years ago it was common to listen to those at the campfire with more knowledge than you hoping they would share a tidbit information as the fire winded down and we went to bed. No one ever hated on those conversions. If you truly love elk hunting, you can always learn from people who have had success in life in general. Stay frosty, keep hammering!
Colorado otc is brutal
“Oregon isn’t great for elk hunting”
Damn, Oregon is 38% the size of my province and has 107,000 more elk then we do. Their elk density is 1.35/sq mile. Ours is 0.10/sq mile.
Is it just me or is Joe ripped? At least at the beginning of the podcast
I’m leaving for my hunts next week can’t wait in eastern oregon
G luck bro
Am I the only one that wonders how much these tags and camps cost?
Couple years ago I wondered the same thing and a post said it was over 25,000. Probably more now.
San Carlos Apache is 20k plus cost for native guide. They have lower cost “management” tags for bulls that they don’t consider trophy quality.
@@levonstilson9032which would still be a giant bull to most normal folks I would assume. Interesting though I wasn’t aware of that.
The Elk definitely look less weary on "unit" hunt videos especially early season. Like to know how you guys view wolves changing their habits. Getting harder with them getting liberated in states plus more hunters.
working hard is only half the equation. You also have to know the right people to talk to and work for. Because if you work hard for someone who doesn't understand your value or underestimates the effort the hard work means nothing.
great podcast !!
Good discussion. Joes very enthusiast about the garmen sight, im not.. It didn't seem like Cam was either lol
Wow that Joe guy is pretty neat
Right?! Where did he come from?
I missed the arrowhead Cam shoots. Can someone reply on what he said he uses? Thanks.
Love you Joe, But you really had me thinking of Warwick Davis on that couch.😅
If joe likes the garmin, tell him to check out the ezv bow sight. It eliminates the need for a range finder
3 legends of the game…Adam is an absolute savage and as hardcore bow hunter as it gets…glad he got to get over here and tag a bull! Rumors of them trying to outlaw bow hunting in Australia
Love watching his Insta stories.
@@charper989 when you see all those small bubbles pop up on the top of the page! Lol
already banned in tasmania and i’m fairly certain it's just been banned in south australia
South Australia has banned bowhunting which state is next.
@@MegaElkaholic thats freaking terrible
Joe’s hands and fingers are big af
Part ape
That's TRT for ya
@@PigBenis4U that's growth hormone
@@rbeezy9728 you don't think I know that? It was the whole point of my comment.
@@PigBenis4U TRT and growth hormone are 2 different things
By definition, id argue public land hunts are better experiences than private hunts
YOU can have the dream if you have the big bucks. OR famous rich friends.Contacts etc. Not many empty places these days. Nearly every creek or trail head has a camp. Glad i live in western australia. Next to know one huge area. In idaho at the moment,fires, heat next to know bugaling. Its changed in 17 years.
Fell off?
This will be the biggest episode this pod will ever do
We need to protect winter range so public land hunting is as good as this!
@camhanes, you say "high poundage". Could you provide your arrow specs.... I.e weight and velocity...to eliminate bow & draw-length from the equation.
Where can we watch the hunt
Ive liked Joe since the beginning of his podcast, but listening to him talk about hunting public lands is cringe, wished Cam would offer to take Joe on a OTC archery elk hunt in Colorado, then he would really appreciate the places he hunts
Hard, he always says majority of hunting in New Zealand is private high fence and as a kiwi I can tell ya that’s pretty inaccurate. Watch Lord of the rings ffs 😂 deer & what not everywhere in those mountains….. Maybe if you only hunted with professional outfitters that’s something you’d say? 🤷♂️
One can acknowledge the importance of meritocracy while understanding that determinism renders free will an illusion. You are not the author of the conditions which create success, but it's still important to try and reach one's potential, because our actions are part of the causal chain that produces outcomes, even if we can't take credit for them.
The GOATs of bowhunting..
Joe needs to invest in a pair of bootcut jeans lol
Awesome thank you ❤
Joe reminds me of Willow. Yes, from the movie.
Truck giveaway is over!!
I dont care where they hunt, but the idea get a better job and making an ass ton of money, and you could too... that's not reality for regular humans. Worker harder but sometimes it doesnt matter how hard you work. The barrier to entry is too great for the majority of Americans.
They all look exhausted
Drop the wheels you guys are young and in shape man up.
Get joe to Australia
Trying hard but struggling to see the sentiment in a lot of the conversation here. I think its a pretty bad look to somewhat talk down to hunters who don't have the means to hunt the way you do. No one is denying that your hunts are hard work but when you nail 3 mature bulls in one hunt when some lifelong and equally, if not more, committed hunters get skunked year after year its pretty clear that its not the same ball game being played.
They aren’t talking down to hunters with less opportunity. They’re talking about people who complain to them for the hunting opportunities they have even though they earned them.
1000% agree
Cry harder man. Life’s not fair they made it they can hunt anywhere oh well
Fun podcast. Life isn't fair and this is okay. But, to say it is all about choice and effort is short sided. We don't need to compensate for inequity but saying you have special opportunity just because you earned is not appreciating your origin of birth or being in the right place at the right time. We don't have to apologize for our place in life. Someone will always have more than you; more money, better genetics, better relationships or maybe they lost a child and missed the best job opportunity they will ever have. Life is not as simple as you just made the better choice over everyone else around you.
I live in Utah grew up hunting the Wasatch and uintah mnts. Not super stoked with the management of our resources. Let to many antler less tags and non resident tags.
I am a 55 year old first year hunter (elk and deer in Oregon) because of Joe Rogan!
What broadhead is Joe using in this video?