Not stupid AT ALL! If the patch is waterproof enough in the shower, who would know it’s not waterproof in the pool, lake etc 🤷🏽♀️ Thanks for the heads up. Those of us without a pool in the backyard now know for vacations etc. Thanks for being vulnerable Renee and educating those of us who didn’t know as well.
I’ve been on the exact same patch for the last 15 years you can swim with it I always have I put the cover on it and I’ve never had a problem. I promise!
I experienced surgical menopause at 42 and I had no idea about that. I’m now 56 and have been in hormone replacement this whole time and never knew that. We all learn something new everyday 😊
Me too! I didnt know this. Had complete hysterectomy in 2010. Now am 56 and been on estradiol patch since 2010. Have had several different docs over the years who rx the patch and none mentioned anything about patch not being waterproof! I take baths often rather than showers and have a pool!
@@AttentiveFinish. Checkout Dr.Felice Gersh and Dr.Robert Mathis……im 73 & on Estradiol patch, testosterone cream & progesterone pills (at bedtime). She needs estradiol for aging, heart, mind & bones……if she’s been through menopause…….even if a woman has had breast cancer, she needs estrogen……studies show a woman does a lot better not having breast cancer return if she gets on estradiol. Hope this helps……no blood clots
Ok, I’m a retired nurse, worked OBGYN 10 years, TVH followed by estrogen patch for 11 years……….never knew this. I thought it was water proof, too 🤷🏼♀️
@@KatieJoMikell what do you mean this is not true? Clearly swimming with her patch not covered caused her patch to lose its effectiveness. Once she put a waterproof bandage on it, her symptoms returned to normal.
@@jillcooper6740 I’ve been using an estrogen patch for decades, and swimming does not effect it. The patch manufacturers and my GYN all agree with this. What does “drain” the estrogen faster is excessive heat -- so saunas, hot jacuzzis, and even a high fever.
I can't believe nobody told you about covering the patch when they prescribed it for you. What about people who like baths? It seems like something that should have been told to you by your doctor. I would have foolishly made the same assumption so it's not foolish at all. Thank you for warning the rest of us. You look beautiful and youthful and radiant. I'm glad the patch is working so well for you!
I’m new to the patch and I take daily baths. I wear it higher up by my shoulder blades. But I really don’t like the brand of my patch. It’s HUGE. A bandaid would definitely not cover it. Going to see about switching brands.
I have worn an HRT biweekly patch for the past 22 years after a hysterectomy. I live in Florida, our development has a pool, and I swim 3-5 times per week. I also frequently take Epsom salt baths. I have never had an issue with my patches getting wet in a pool or from taking a bath. I looked it up on line and read the HRT instruction sheet, both said you can take a shower, take a bath and swim with this patch.
Thanks for commenting this. I’m just starting the patch and live in Fla. I have a STP that I do use. I can’t imagine making a patch that isn’t waterproof.
I live in Florida and swim daily in my pool too. I’ve not had any issues with my estrogen patch. I even asked several doctors including functional doctor and they all said it doesn’t affect the dosage or the patch. ❤
Yes however it affected her patch. Perhaps her patch had less adhesive or some kind of barrier to it .. or depends on her skin type maybe if someone has more oily skin, the patch perhaps doesn't stick as well to it . Just because something wasn't the experience of one person doesn't mean that is the rule that applies to everyone else's experience. Just like just because one person isn't allergic to peanuts or a certain cream, doesn't mean that everyone else should not be allergic to peanuts or a certain cream. Glad though seems like your patch is done in your pool.
Also some pools have more chlorine than others , and some pools are saltwater pools , or warm temp versus cold temp... all of this can effect things differently
Renee, I’ve have been using an estrogen patch for about four years now and I had no idea that it isn’t waterproof since we can wear it in the shower🤷♀️ Thank you for sharing this. I don’t have a pool but in the colder months, we use our hot tub daily.
Renee, Iv been in this alone and no women I know talk about it. Im so grateful that you shared this. Im having all these symptoms and looking into taking ERT and a stranger mentioned this patch. I turned 50 last week, and not married with children. I got curls and love baking and really resonate with you. You are such a great woman to everyone.
I looked at the FAQ (on GoodRx) on the Estradiol patch and the answer to the question “Can I swim or take a bath while wearing the patch?” is “It depends. You shouldn’t swim, take a bath or use a sauna if you use the once-weekly version of the estradiol patch, as this could affect how your body absorbs the medication. These activities are safe to do if you use the twice-weekly patches.” So an alternative to applying the bandage on top, is to use the twice-weekly version in the summer and switch back to the weekly in non-swimming weather. I’m not yet in need of the patch, but not too far behind you, Renee. Sorry that you had to learn this the difficult way, but THANK YOU for sharing so that others can learn it before issues arise. You’ve helped many! ❤
I’ve started reading the full drug inserts - those papers with the tiny print - because they reveal interesting and helpful information. I wish pharmacists and docs had enough time to review all the details with us on our meds, but they don’t. I’ve caught some other “mistakes” this way. I’d rather take the 5 minutes and magnifying glass out than find out the consequences of not knowing later. I’ll give you an example: my simple allergy med (Allegra aka fexofenadine HCl) shouldn’t be taken with fruit juice because the juice inhibits absorption of the drug to a very high extent. Imagine spending that money and time trying to fix your allergy symptoms but inadvertently sabotaging it because you took it with your morning juice. Knowledge is power! 🤓
I use the once weekly patch and my pharmacist said it is not affected by swimming as the patch is completely waterproof. I'm really unsure now what the truth is. Needs further looking into.
@@Kim-ek7xy I always trust the drug inserts, like Das said. The pharmacist is a single human with the power of one brain, he/she does not know everything and if anything like me they can totally remember something wrong. The inserts have to be correct or the product producer gets sued into oblivion.
I am so glad you posted this video! How could it be dumb if they tell us we can wear it in the shower? I think A LOT of us got an education by watching this! Thank you Renee! We have a vacation planned and I need to buy those waterproof band aids!
Renee! You are NOT stupid. I would of presumed the same thing that the patch would of been water proof. I'm glad you had the issue fixed. Menopause symptoms are no fun. I didn't laugh at you either! You are a special good person. Thank you for all of your posts on your life. You have helped me with flower tips, household ideas and I just plain like who you are! Take care dear. ❤😊
Going In to talk to my GYN this week. I am almost a full 10 years out from menopause and I am afraid it may not be beneficial for me now. I feel a whole two decades of women have been lost. It’s just sad. 😢
I have been on estradiol patches for more than two years. 0.05. I take baths every day and I have bloodwork regularly and my estradiol level is exactly where it’s supposed to be.
@@ddmontg3402 there are several gynecologists on RUclips that discuss HRT for women more than ten years post menopause. It is safe , it is effective, it is recommended. I believed Menopause Taylor when she said "the ten year window of opportunity is all you have". Now, I believe the several other gynos that say otherwise. Check for yourself, listen to multiple sources, then make your own decisions. Best wishes.
@@ddmontg3402 same here! I just started. My doc said I may not get full full benefits as if I started right when peri menopause started but I WILL definitely get benefits. Have no fear and eager to sleep better and have the other benefits as well
You're not silly or stupid. I've worked in healthcare for over 40 years, and I never would've thought that the patches weren't waterproof. Your family doctor sounds like a gem; shame on your gyn/surgeon who failed to tell you about the crucial contraindication for the patch. Pharmacists are the best source of information about meds; whenever you get a new prescription filled, you should ask the following: 1) Is there anything I shouldn't be doing/eating/taking while on this medication?, and 2) Are there any side effects I should be on the lookout for?
I am so thankful that you posted this video. I am about a month behind you on my journey and have mirrored your experience in a lot of ways. I am also on the Estradiol patch and I had no idea that you couldn't go swimming with it! I would never have known, so I am so grateful to you for sharing this. And thank you for sharing your whole hysterectomy journey. 🙏🏻 It has been a great help to me.
🤪 I would have never thought of it not being waterproof being you shower with it on. I am 64 and had to have a total hysterectomy at 30, I was also given a patch to wear, but after several years on the patch my doctor took me off of it and said I was through menopause. So I was shocked to find out that your doctor said your high cholesterol was hormone driven. I never had a problem with cholesterol until after I was taken off the patch, I currently take 2 medications to keep mine down, not perfect but down. I will definitely talk with my doctor about this. Thanks so much for sharing your information. Also, no one told me coming off HRT would cause me to age faster..
@@fayegibson1729 you should absolutely still be on hormones. You might want to look into a new Dr. I wish these Dr would further their education in menopause. Also, your cholesterol is going up because your body needs it to function. Sex hormones make cholesterol so they are trying extra hard to make cholesterol with what you have left. I know women well into their late 70's still on hormones and feel great!
I used the estrogen patch for several years and it just became a nuisance. Next was a measured dose spray inside the elbow, next a cream. Finally, I went to compounded pill (Mexican wild yam and two types of bioidentical estrogen). By far, the easiest for me and works the best. I bet you switch down the road. My HRT has helped my joint pain so much, my energy and my mood. I noticed the difference when I went off for one year. I love my HRT❤
@@butterflyblusoapstudio my doctor says the studies are not clear. I’m extremely careful with my self care. I don’t get overweight (no processed food whatsoever, no sugar, moderate protein, lots of olive oil, exercise, rebound everyday for lymphatic system, no vaccines! Which are known to cause clots, lift light weights to keep muscles strong. Full time job to stay strong feel good. I won’t need to go on drugs. It would be best to ask your own doctor but be sure you have a good one.
Well that was a cautionary tale for sure Renee 🥰 Not at all silly, it will be helpful for others on HRT patches. I’m so impressed with the quantity of sleep you have since being on the patches. So essential to overall health 🧡
Thank you so very much, from a Floridian who swims with an estradiol patch. I didn't know until today. Went and bought my waterproof bandaids today. You are the best!
Renee - I was not laughing at you. I take the same patch and had NO IDEA that we could not swim in the patch. While I am not in the pool near as frequently - I have definitely swam without covering mine. So THANK YOU for this wonderful tip!!! I mean if you can take a shower in them it seems like you could swim in them. Go figure!
I’ve never worn a patch but if I did, I’m sure I never would have known this! Not dumb and in fact, very wonderful that you are so willing to share your experiences with everyone ❤❤
I used to be on the patch but then, for some weird reason, I started to have a rash type reaction so I switched over to estrogen cream. I apply it to my upper arm area and alternate arms every day! This could be an option for women who don’t want to wear the patch. 😊
Absolutely yes!!! I could use the cream in the winter.....but I'm in water too much in the summertime for it to be effective for me. But it's a great option!
I have worn patch for decades (married to a physician) and NO one has ever told me about covering patch! I do not swim but love to take long hot baths---bet I need to cover. Thank you for sharing.
Good thing you found out about this mishap now. Glad you're feeling better. Your video will help many I'm sure. I never had symptoms that bad when I had menopause. If I had night sweats I just changed clothes and went back to sleep. I was working at a job during those years and I was tired because of lack of sleep. Symptoms lasted at least 15 years. I'm not bothered anymore and I'm still young. I find it important to walk. I walk my dog twice a day. I keep busy in kitchen. I like to work with crafting. Always keep moving at some point. Sitting is good too. That's when I work on knitting, crochet, sewing just for an hour . You'll be ok don't worry. It gets better in time.
Hello, Renee! I know this is an older video, but I'm just seeing it now, and I have to add-- you're NOT dumb for not knowing this; how *could* you know what you don't know?! In fact I'd say the opposite--it strikes me that you are the SMART one for even thinking to ask if swimming could be the issue. Kudos to you for figuring this out! And, of course, thanks much for this tip. :-)
Just got my first patches today. My doctor said nothing about them not being waterproof and I swim a lot. You likely saved me a lot of time and frustration. Many thanks!
I use the same patch and I have been going to water aerobics not realizing that I should cover the patch! Thanks for sharing this helpful information! Btw, you’re not stupid you just didn’t know! 😊
You're not stupid, but the manufacturer and probably the prescribing dr. as well should have made that clear. Jeez, menopause is confusing enough without the "professionals" making it harder on us. Laurie
Not stupid at all, very informative I would have done the same thing. Problem is nobody tells you these things, so I thank you for pointing this out 😊.
Wow 😮 you don’t know how helpful that was !! Thank you for sharing! Believe it or not, I had a doctor tell me that it was ok to swim with the patch but I always felt the symptoms come back afterwards! I’m definitely purchasing the waterproof bandaids !!!
Great tip - i've been on the patch for a few years and have avoided hot tubs as I assumed it would cause it to come off - so I appreciate knowing about the waterproof bandaid!
Thank you so much! Give yourself Grace 💛 I am a big swimmer and just got prescribed the patch along with the progesterone pills today. I am excited to feel like myself again after suffering for almost 2 years.
OMGoodness! I LOVE LONG SOAKS IN THE TUB!!! I had no idea my patch isn't waterproof. I remember my mom needed to use "Tegaderm" films over her IV port. They sell them on Amazon in different sizes. They're SUPER thin like a second skin and completely clear. They should be perfect for this. 🤦🏻♀️😌
Body temperature water from a bath wouldn't harm the patch, but hot water does drain the medicine very quickly. I can’t usually get them to re-stick well if they fall off, but if you can remove it before a bath and get it to stick back on after, that would be your best bet. A tepid bath wouldn’t do much for me!
I am so grateful to find this information out today before I start my patch tonight for the first time. I really appreciate you showing where you place yours. I am looking forward to hopefully sleeping again real soon!!
Glad it was helpful! I move my patch around to 4 different spots: left & right front hip bone pelvic area (below bikini line) and left & right back hip section.
I didn’t know that either!! I’ve not been swimming with my patch on, but now I know. Awesome info, thank you! So sorry you had to go through that! I appreciate your video on this topic ❤
I just picked up my 1st Rx of patches today. The only thing the pharmacy said to me was a question, “are you pregnant?” I said no I’m post menopause 🤣. Other than that said nothing else to me.
Not stupid at all! You taught me something. I was thinking if it’s waterproof I could get in the pool with it too. Thank for that nugget! I would have been in the same boat with you. 😊
I never knew the patches are not waterproof. I have been using these patches for years and doing water aerobics too. Now I know why I haven't been feeling good. I will be covering the patches. Thank you so so much.❤❤
Thank you so much for this very timely information. I thought the estrogen patches were waterproof too! You have saved me so much grief. Who would know without a warning on the boxes in HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS?? ❤
Very informative. I am even thinking about to get an estrogen patch, because I am tired of the symptoms, after 10 years 😰. I will talk to my physician about it, in my next visit. Thanks for all your tips.
I AM SO GLAD YOU DID THIS VIDEO. I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING MY PATCHES ON BETWEEN SHOWERS, BATHS, AND LAKE TIME. I NOW USE YOUR METHOD WITH THE WATERPROOF BANDAGES.
🤪Good to know! I would have thought the same as you did! Pre op appointment this Thursday and surgery next Tuesday. Wondering what form of HRT my doc will put me on. Thanks for the info!!
I am just starting patch today. I had no idea! I love taking baths too. I didn’t think about it getting diluted in the water. I’m going to get the water proof bandaids so I can still take a bath. Thank you!
I absolutely love you and your videos! You are so down to earth and honest! I could actually watch your videos everyday 😅! Keep them coming and have a blessed day.
Hi Renee! Thank you for sharing your experience! I would have never thought to wear a waterproof bandaid either and you know why? BECAUSE upon reading every blessed word on the pamphlet that came with my patches, NOT ONE word was mentioned about swimming (or bathing) or needing a waterproof bandaid in that case!!! So, shame on Novartis for not warning women about this most crucially important fact! You look great and you speak like a very intelligent woman...nothing dumb about you!
I had a very difficult time at the beginning of the video listening to you refering to yourself as " Stupid" and all of those diminish words. But it is the only video I found about this topic.
@@alejandraduque4061 at 9:08 she said her provider laughed at her and said “how do you not know that”. Super cringey! Women shouldn’t tell themselves they are stupid and their doctors shouldn’t laugh at them.
Thank you so very much for making this video. I had no idea! Nobody told me! How would we know if they don’t bother to tell us? Oh my goodness this would’ve really messed with me because I don’t have a pituitary gland so we’re replacing all the hormones the pituitary gland is supposed to make in addition to wearing an estrogen patch. I wouldn’t know where to start as to what was causing the problem. I can’t thank you enough for making this video!
I can't believe they didn't mention it to you when it was prescribed. I would never have known either, and definitely would have assumed if I can shower with it, I could swim with it. Glad you figured it out though. 🌷
That is crazy! I just started the patch. I haven't been swimming because it's winter. But I do have a pool and had absolutely no idea the patch wasn't waterproof! Thank you for the insight!!🤪
Happened to find your channel today. Thanks for the information! I’m going to visit my sister in FL next weekend and I know we’ll be in the pool a lot!
Omg! Thanks for sharing this. This explains alot! Ive been soaking in the tub most nights without covering my patch. I thought I needed a higher dosage! Soooo not stupid of you at all. I don't think i was informed of this. Thank you!
Hi! Just thanking you for this video. You called yourself silly here a few times, and I just want to say that I don't think you are. Nobody told you not to swim in the patch, and that is absolutely a doctor's responsibility to tell you something like that. And a pharmacist's, too. I am just getting ready to start HRT myself, and I have asked so many questions of a few different docs. And not ONE of them told me this incredibly simple, but incredibly important thing. And I'm a swimmer. So, if I hadn't seen your video, ABSOLUTELY the same thing would have happened to me, and I might have never, ever have known why it wasn't working. I can't thank you enough.
So basically I would have to cover it every night when I take a bath. What a pain! Glad you told me about this because I'm probably going on the patch soon.
Why? Why? Why? Is this not talked about more? Why is this not on the packaging!!!! You are not alone and you are the first time I am hearing this. I can’t believe I’ve been submerging in water the intire time I’ve been using my patch. Over 4 months. 🤦🏻♀️Thank you so much.
Wow, I’ve seen my gyno 4 times in the last year to adjust my HRT,have never been told this 🤯 woman helping women ❤thank you Just got yourself a new subscriber 😊
My pdr. says you can swim in, my pharmacist says you can swim in it, the mayo clinic says you can swim , the pamphlet that come with the prescription says you can swim.
The doctor who first put me on estradiol patch said she was on the mini dot, which sounds like yours. She was saying how she loves it because it was so small and she can swim with it. I could not afford that one, so I am on the generic patch which is a little larger. I was putting them on my lower stomach, but found they would come off too easily. So I put them now just a little above the hips. Thank God I don't know how to swim.🤗
No one told me that either! I find your doctor’s laughter insensitive. You/we are not dumb! Thanks for the tip. My cholesterol was off the chart too, but my doctors kept insisting it was my diet. 😢 It took me doing my own research to associate high cholesterol to estrogen deficiency. Doctors - even OB/GYNs - are limited in their training and knowledge of peri and menopause.
Interesting, I have estradiol (Evorel) patch and the leaflet in the package says that the patch is waterproof and I can go swimming with the patch on. In the everyday activities, on the second point, it says: You can go swimming. The patch will not be affected. I guess it depends on your supplier. I live in the UK.
What about the Cholesterol aspect?? I am post menopausal. Started taking cholesterol medicine shortly after. So this is very interesting to me about the hormone effect. I am gona bring it up with my Dr.
My doctor says my cholesterol level has gone up become I’m not receiving my estrogen…and estrogen keeps cholesterol in check. I’m having my levels rechecked in 3 months and will absolutely report back on my channel 😀
@@WelcomeToMyCurlsyes please let us know mine are boarder line and I’m on the patch wondering if I need to up the dose …is ur doc a holistic practitioner cause mine has never told me that abt cholesterol but I kinda put the two together cause my levels were perfect till my hysterectomy….
I’m super curious about the cholesterol numbers too. I had my ovaries removed back in mid July and since then my cholesterol went up dramatically. I was just prescribed my estrogen patch today, the same one you are on as well as Omega-3 for my triglycerides. So hopefully it’ll drop again. I won’t take statins, because I’ve tried them before and i get massive brain fog. I hated how I felt on the statins. I hope this patch helps with sleep. I’m so tired of not being able to sleep and the hot and cold cycling all night long.
Don't take responsibility for the manufacturer of the patch - they should have clearly pointed that out on the back of the box or the insert. Also, your doctor's and their staff are negligent for not telling you how to apply it and maintain it. You did everything correctly. I think all of us would have done the same as you. I am sure your doctors who live in the same climate as you and probably all have backyard pools and should have known that you did also and should have instructed you accordingly. You should write the manufacturers a letter to suggest they make a waterproof patch for people to use who swim in a pool or go on vacation and swim in the ocean or a hotel pool. Glad everything is back to normal for you.
Oh my!! I went to FL for 10 days in late April, spent everyday in the ocean and pool! I never knew it wasn't water proof!! I figured it was staying put so it was good! TY for letting me know this!! ❤😊
🤪 OMG ! I've been doing the same thing !!!!! I had no idea ! Thank you for bringing that up. I learn so much from you. Our pool will be closed on Sept 18 so I wont have to worry after that.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I literally just started using this patch today, and I can tell you that no one told me to cover it for swimming… nor did I see it mentioned in the drug fact sheet. I won’t likely be swimming anytime really soon, but this is so helpful to know for when it comes up. Again, thank you!
I've now found a much better way to cover my patch.....💧Transparent waterproof dressing amzn.to/49JlYyd
I never would have known!
Did not know!!! I take the hormone pill,, listen we all learned something & that's what important 🤗🐾🙏
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This should be a clear, bold faced warning printed on the package… if it isn’t… we don’t find this funny at all. Thank God you were informed!
Not stupid AT ALL! If the patch is waterproof enough in the shower, who would know it’s not waterproof in the pool, lake etc 🤷🏽♀️ Thanks for the heads up. Those of us without a pool in the backyard now know for vacations etc. Thanks for being vulnerable Renee and educating those of us who didn’t know as well.
I’ve been on the exact same patch for the last 15 years you can swim with it I always have I put the cover on it and I’ve never had a problem. I promise!
It would also be really nice if our physicians would’ve informed us more! It’s not stupid at all
@@dogwalker2909 I completely agree Thanks Renee for being super vulnerable and yet so considerate which in turn is helping us all out 🥰
I take baths because of orthopedic problems & even w/waterproof patch its a problem keeping them on. Guess Im getting a shower bench? Bless u thanku!
You are certainly not dumb. How would you know if nobody tells you! Glad you got it figured out!
How the heck would you know that? I wouldn't have known that either.
It is in the instructions on the package. But also, my doctor told me not to get it wet.
I experienced surgical menopause at 42 and I had no idea about that. I’m now 56 and have been in hormone replacement this whole time and never knew that. We all learn something new everyday 😊
Me too! I didnt know this. Had complete hysterectomy in 2010. Now am 56 and been on estradiol patch since 2010. Have had several different docs over the years who rx the patch and none mentioned anything about patch not being waterproof! I take baths often rather than showers and have a pool!
Did the patch help you guys. I'm trying to help my wife. She's scared of HRT pills because of blood clots
@@AttentiveFinish. Checkout Dr.Felice Gersh and Dr.Robert Mathis……im 73 & on Estradiol patch, testosterone cream & progesterone pills (at bedtime). She needs estradiol for aging, heart, mind & bones……if she’s been through menopause…….even if a woman has had breast cancer, she needs estrogen……studies show a woman does a lot better not having breast cancer return if she gets on estradiol. Hope this helps……no blood clots
@@christinahurt7505. I started putting patch above my left boob & upper shoulder……my dr looked up sites & it showed shoulder, upper arm & other sites.
@@AttentiveFinish Transdermal estrogen doesn't increase blood clot risk. Oral estrogen, which the liver metabolites, does.
Ok, I’m a retired nurse, worked OBGYN 10 years, TVH followed by estrogen patch for 11 years……….never knew this. I thought it was water proof, too 🤷🏼♀️
That’s because this is not true and I’ve been on it for almost 2 decades you can swim with it on. I always have they do make covers.
@@KatieJoMikell covers ?
@@KatieJoMikell what do you mean this is not true? Clearly swimming with her patch not covered caused her patch to lose its effectiveness. Once she put a waterproof bandage on it, her symptoms returned to normal.
@@jillcooper6740 I’ve been using an estrogen patch for decades, and swimming does not effect it. The patch manufacturers and my GYN all agree with this. What does “drain” the estrogen faster is excessive heat -- so saunas, hot jacuzzis, and even a high fever.
Can you take off a patch to swim or does that effect the patch? I’m
Wondering this myself….
I can't believe nobody told you about covering the patch when they prescribed it for you. What about people who like baths? It seems like something that should have been told to you by your doctor. I would have foolishly made the same assumption so it's not foolish at all. Thank you for warning the rest of us. You look beautiful and youthful and radiant. I'm glad the patch is working so well for you!
I’m new to the patch and I take daily baths. I wear it higher up by my shoulder blades. But I really don’t like the brand of my patch. It’s HUGE. A bandaid would definitely not cover it. Going to see about switching brands.
I have worn an HRT biweekly patch for the past 22 years after a hysterectomy. I live in Florida, our development has a pool, and I swim 3-5 times per week. I also frequently take Epsom salt baths. I have never had an issue with my patches getting wet in a pool or from taking a bath. I looked it up on line and read the HRT instruction sheet, both said you can take a shower, take a bath and swim with this patch.
Thanks for commenting this. I’m just starting the patch and live in Fla. I have a STP that I do use. I can’t imagine making a patch that isn’t waterproof.
I live in Florida and swim daily in my pool too.
I’ve not had any issues with my estrogen patch.
I even asked several doctors including functional doctor and they all said it doesn’t affect the dosage or the patch. ❤
Yes however it affected her patch. Perhaps her patch had less adhesive or some kind of barrier to it .. or depends on her skin type maybe if someone has more oily skin, the patch perhaps doesn't stick as well to it . Just because something wasn't the experience of one person doesn't mean that is the rule that applies to everyone else's experience. Just like just because one person isn't allergic to peanuts or a certain cream, doesn't mean that everyone else should not be allergic to peanuts or a certain cream. Glad though seems like your patch is done in your pool.
Also some pools have more chlorine than others , and some pools are saltwater pools , or warm temp versus cold temp... all of this can effect things differently
Why can't you take it off before showering or going in the pool, then put it back on?@@bubblesbubble5264
I would never thought of that either, Why didn't the doctor ever tell You that!!!
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Renee, I’ve have been using an estrogen patch for about four years now and I had no idea that it isn’t waterproof since we can wear it in the shower🤷♀️ Thank you for sharing this. I don’t have a pool but in the colder months, we use our hot tub daily.
Now you know!!! 😊
Renee, Iv been in this alone and no women I know talk about it. Im so grateful that you shared this. Im having all these symptoms and looking into taking ERT and a stranger mentioned this patch. I turned 50 last week, and not married with children. I got curls and love baking and really resonate with you. You are such a great woman to everyone.
Thank you for all your information about estrogen patch. I've been having a hard time making a decision on starting on the patch. Love your videos .
I looked at the FAQ (on GoodRx) on the Estradiol patch and the answer to the question “Can I swim or take a bath while wearing the patch?” is “It depends. You shouldn’t swim, take a bath or use a sauna if you use the once-weekly version of the estradiol patch, as this could affect how your body absorbs the medication. These activities are safe to do if you use the twice-weekly patches.”
So an alternative to applying the bandage on top, is to use the twice-weekly version in the summer and switch back to the weekly in non-swimming weather.
I’m not yet in need of the patch, but not too far behind you, Renee. Sorry that you had to learn this the difficult way, but THANK YOU for sharing so that others can learn it before issues arise. You’ve helped many! ❤
I’ve started reading the full drug inserts - those papers with the tiny print - because they reveal interesting and helpful information. I wish pharmacists and docs had enough time to review all the details with us on our meds, but they don’t. I’ve caught some other “mistakes” this way. I’d rather take the 5 minutes and magnifying glass out than find out the consequences of not knowing later. I’ll give you an example: my simple allergy med (Allegra aka fexofenadine HCl) shouldn’t be taken with fruit juice because the juice inhibits absorption of the drug to a very high extent. Imagine spending that money and time trying to fix your allergy symptoms but inadvertently sabotaging it because you took it with your morning juice. Knowledge is power! 🤓
I use the once weekly patch and my pharmacist said it is not affected by swimming as the patch is completely waterproof. I'm really unsure now what the truth is.
Needs further looking into.
@@Kim-ek7xy I always trust the drug inserts, like Das said. The pharmacist is a single human with the power of one brain, he/she does not know everything and if anything like me they can totally remember something wrong. The inserts have to be correct or the product producer gets sued into oblivion.
I would have thought the same thing! If you can shower, you can swim. You are not alone in thinking that.
Goodness, your hair is incredibly gorgeous!
Thank you for making this video. I am sure there are other women that didn't know this either. Glad you're doing well and figured it out! 🙂
🤣I had no idea!!! But I'm so glad I figured it out because I'm drastically better now 😊
Thank you for sharing your story. None of us have gone through menopause before so any information is helpful and I appreciate you.
I am so glad you posted this video! How could it be dumb if they tell us we can wear it in the shower? I think A LOT of us got an education by watching this! Thank you Renee! We have a vacation planned and I need to buy those waterproof band aids!
Renee! You are NOT stupid. I would of presumed the same thing that the patch would of been water proof. I'm glad you had the issue fixed. Menopause symptoms are no fun. I didn't laugh at you either! You are a special good person. Thank you for all of your posts on your life. You have helped me with flower tips, household ideas and I just plain like who you are! Take care dear. ❤😊
I have to laugh at myself.....glad my story was helpful for you. Have a great day!
Your skin looks amazing!
Thanks for this information. According to Menopause Taylor, we should be on .05 to prevent serious health problems in the future.
Yes! Menopause Taylor changed my life! My doctors NEVER helped me with my HRT needs…they bought into the fearmongering done by the WHI.
Going In to talk to my GYN this week. I am almost a full 10 years out from menopause and I am afraid it may not be beneficial for me now. I feel a whole two decades of women have been lost. It’s just sad. 😢
I have been on estradiol patches for more than two years. 0.05. I take baths every day and I have bloodwork regularly and my estradiol level is exactly where it’s supposed to be.
@@ddmontg3402 there are several gynecologists on RUclips that discuss HRT for women more than ten years post menopause. It is safe , it is effective, it is recommended. I believed Menopause Taylor when she said "the ten year window of opportunity is all you have". Now, I believe the several other gynos that say otherwise. Check for yourself, listen to multiple sources, then make your own decisions. Best wishes.
@@ddmontg3402 same here! I just started. My doc said I may not get full full benefits as if I started right when peri menopause started but I WILL definitely get benefits. Have no fear and eager to sleep better and have the other benefits as well
I cover my patch too! Tip: go swimming or hot tubbing on switch day, put on new patch afterwords.
You're not silly or stupid. I've worked in healthcare for over 40 years, and I never would've thought that the patches weren't waterproof. Your family doctor sounds like a gem; shame on your gyn/surgeon who failed to tell you about the crucial contraindication for the patch. Pharmacists are the best source of information about meds; whenever you get a new prescription filled, you should ask the following: 1) Is there anything I shouldn't be doing/eating/taking while on this medication?, and 2) Are there any side effects I should be on the lookout for?
I am so thankful that you posted this video. I am about a month behind you on my journey and have mirrored your experience in a lot of ways. I am also on the Estradiol patch and I had no idea that you couldn't go swimming with it! I would never have known, so I am so grateful to you for sharing this. And thank you for sharing your whole hysterectomy journey. 🙏🏻 It has been a great help to me.
You are so welcome! 💗
OMG. Just started hrt and it worked great the first week. I went swimming the 2nd week and thought it wasn't working. Thank you so much for sharing.
🤪 I would have never thought of it not being waterproof being you shower with it on. I am 64 and had to have a total hysterectomy at 30, I was also given a patch to wear, but after several years on the patch my doctor took me off of it and said I was through menopause. So I was shocked to find out that your doctor said your high cholesterol was hormone driven. I never had a problem with cholesterol until after I was taken off the patch, I currently take 2 medications to keep mine down, not perfect but down. I will definitely talk with my doctor about this. Thanks so much for sharing your information. Also, no one told me coming off HRT would cause me to age faster..
They tell you you can bathe with it, so I would assume too, that you could swim with it.
U gotta get back on HRT. Or go to Dr Claire Haven videos to find out the most accurate info. Good luck. U need estrogen.
@@fayegibson1729 you should absolutely still be on hormones. You might want to look into a new Dr. I wish these Dr would further their education in menopause. Also, your cholesterol is going up because your body needs it to function. Sex hormones make cholesterol so they are trying extra hard to make cholesterol with what you have left. I know women well into their late 70's still on hormones and feel great!
I used the estrogen patch for several years and it just became a nuisance. Next was a measured dose spray inside the elbow, next a cream. Finally, I went to compounded pill (Mexican wild yam and two types of bioidentical estrogen). By far, the easiest for me and works the best. I bet you switch down the road. My HRT has helped my joint pain so much, my energy and my mood. I noticed the difference when I went off for one year. I love my HRT❤
Please tell me which brand you buy as I am very interested.
so is the pill safe n doesn’t cause blood clots?
@@butterflyblusoapstudio my doctor says the studies are not clear. I’m extremely careful with my self care. I don’t get overweight (no processed food whatsoever, no sugar, moderate protein, lots of olive oil, exercise, rebound everyday for lymphatic system, no vaccines! Which are known to cause clots, lift light weights to keep muscles strong. Full time job to stay strong feel good. I won’t need to go on drugs. It would be best to ask your own doctor but be sure you have a good one.
@@WWGWGA-bi2rv good for you for resisting the 💉!!
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Well that was a cautionary tale for sure Renee 🥰 Not at all silly, it will be helpful for others on HRT patches. I’m so impressed with the quantity of sleep you have since being on the patches. So essential to overall health 🧡
Oh Renee! I just started on the same patches and had NO idea. Thank you so much for sharing this!!
Thank you so very much, from a Floridian who swims with an estradiol patch. I didn't know until today. Went and bought my waterproof bandaids today. You are the best!
I am a medical doctor and I didnt know. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Renee - I was not laughing at you. I take the same patch and had NO IDEA that we could not swim in the patch. While I am not in the pool near as frequently - I have definitely swam without covering mine. So THANK YOU for this wonderful tip!!! I mean if you can take a shower in them it seems like you could swim in them. Go figure!
Same! But I think that being in the shower the patch isn't submersed for a long time. Water just runs over it.
I’ve never worn a patch but if I did, I’m sure I never would have known this! Not dumb and in fact, very wonderful that you are so willing to share your experiences with everyone ❤❤
So nice to know. I would have assumed as well. The PCP's or pharmacy should go over all of these things. Thank you for sharing.❤
I used to be on the patch but then, for some weird reason, I started to have a rash type reaction so I switched over to estrogen cream. I apply it to my upper arm area and alternate arms every day! This could be an option for women who don’t want to wear the patch. 😊
Absolutely yes!!! I could use the cream in the winter.....but I'm in water too much in the summertime for it to be effective for me. But it's a great option!
@@WelcomeToMyCurls Well, who would know you can't use cream in the water, either? If you're stupid, then so am I!
That is so good to know! I am very happy with the pellet implant but if I ever have to use the patch I’ll remember that.
I have worn patch for decades (married to a physician) and NO one has ever told me about covering patch! I do not swim but love to take long hot baths---bet I need to cover. Thank you for sharing.
I was wondering about this!!! I'm so glad to have stumbled across your video. I had no idea it wasn't swim proof.
Good thing you found out about this mishap now. Glad you're feeling better. Your video will help many I'm sure. I never had symptoms that bad when I had menopause. If I had night sweats I just changed clothes and went back to sleep. I was working at a job during those years and I was tired because of lack of sleep. Symptoms lasted at least 15 years. I'm not bothered anymore and I'm still young. I find it important to walk. I walk my dog twice a day. I keep busy in kitchen. I like to work with crafting. Always keep moving at some point. Sitting is good too. That's when I work on knitting, crochet, sewing just for an hour . You'll be ok don't worry. It gets better in time.
Hello, Renee! I know this is an older video, but I'm just seeing it now, and I have to add-- you're NOT dumb for not knowing this; how *could* you know what you don't know?! In fact I'd say the opposite--it strikes me that you are the SMART one for even thinking to ask if swimming could be the issue. Kudos to you for figuring this out! And, of course, thanks much for this tip. :-)
I wouldn't have known either. Unless someone tells you, you wouldn't know. I'm sure you have helped many with this video.
Thank you so much for this information. I had no idea my patch was not waterproof. I can’t believe nobody told us this.
I lived in FL on the beach after my surgery and this is so spot on and the doctors are clueless about this big time.
Just got my first patches today. My doctor said nothing about them not being waterproof and I swim a lot. You likely saved me a lot of time and frustration. Many thanks!
I use the same patch and I have been going to water aerobics not realizing that I should cover the patch! Thanks for sharing this helpful information! Btw, you’re not stupid you just didn’t know! 😊
I had no idea , I use the same patches felt like my patches working properly anymore
Thank you for letting us know
You're not stupid, but the manufacturer and probably the prescribing dr. as well should have made that clear. Jeez, menopause is confusing enough without the "professionals" making it harder on us. Laurie
Not stupid at all, very informative I would have done the same thing. Problem is nobody tells you these things, so I thank you for pointing this out 😊.
You are not dumb! I didn’t know this either! Thank you for letting us know! ❤
Thank you for this information! I would have never thought to cover my patch before swimming!
Wow 😮 you don’t know how helpful that was !! Thank you for sharing! Believe it or not, I had a doctor tell me that it was ok to swim with the patch but I always felt the symptoms come back afterwards! I’m definitely purchasing the waterproof bandaids !!!
OMG 😮 thank you. My gyno never informed me of this. I got tub at least twice a week. You just helped me.
Same - why don’t they tell women?
You are not dumb! It should have had clear instructions. Glad you have shared for others!
I had no idea! Thank you for sharing this!
Happy to help!
Great tip - i've been on the patch for a few years and have avoided hot tubs as I assumed it would cause it to come off - so I appreciate knowing about the waterproof bandaid!
Thank you so much! Give yourself Grace 💛 I am a big swimmer and just got prescribed the patch along with the progesterone pills today. I am excited to feel like myself again after suffering for almost 2 years.
OMGoodness! I LOVE LONG SOAKS IN THE TUB!!! I had no idea my patch isn't waterproof.
I remember my mom needed to use "Tegaderm" films over her IV port. They sell them on Amazon in different sizes. They're SUPER thin like a second skin and completely clear. They should be perfect for this. 🤦🏻♀️😌
Body temperature water from a bath wouldn't harm the patch, but hot water does drain the medicine very quickly. I can’t usually get them to re-stick well if they fall off, but if you can remove it before a bath and get it to stick back on after, that would be your best bet. A tepid bath wouldn’t do much for me!
@@04Serena ooooo good to know!!!! Thank you!
I am so grateful to find this information out today before I start my patch tonight for the first time. I really appreciate you showing where you place yours. I am looking forward to hopefully sleeping again real soon!!
Glad it was helpful! I move my patch around to 4 different spots: left & right front hip bone pelvic area (below bikini line) and left & right back hip section.
I didn’t know that either! You taught me something today.
I didn’t know that either!! I’ve not been swimming with my patch on, but now I know. Awesome info, thank you! So sorry you had to go through that! I appreciate your video on this topic ❤
The pharmacy who filled the prescription Should have made sure you knew… not your fault.!! Glad your now ok!!🌺
I just picked up my 1st Rx of patches today. The only thing the pharmacy said to me was a question, “are you pregnant?” I said no I’m post menopause 🤣. Other than that said nothing else to me.
Not stupid at all! You taught me something. I was thinking if it’s waterproof I could get in the pool with it too. Thank for that nugget! I would have been in the same boat with you. 😊
I never knew the patches are not waterproof. I have been using these patches for years and doing water aerobics too. Now I know why I haven't been feeling good. I will be covering the patches. Thank you so so much.❤❤
You are so welcome! You should be feeling better soon enough....took me about a week to see the changes :)
Thank you so much for this very timely information. I thought the estrogen patches were waterproof too! You have saved me so much grief. Who would know without a warning on the boxes in HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS?? ❤
Holy crap!!!!! 😮 I had no idea girl, I go swimming all the time in mine!!!!😂😂😂
Thank you soooooo much for doing this video!!!❤
Me too!!!!! Know we know.....just get the waterproof bandaids and problem solved!
But wait, have you been getting your hormones?
Thank you soooo much for sharing that I had the same logic. I’m glad I’m not the only one. Thank you for sharing this helpful tip!
We all just learned a lesson. Would have thought the same as you did.
I had no idea either. Thank you. How would you know unless someone tells you. I am thrilled to find your you tube channel
I had absolutely no idea😮. I like you thought it just continued to do it's thing, lol. Now I know better.... Thank you 😊
Now you know!!!! 🤣
Very informative. I am even thinking about to get an estrogen patch, because I am tired of the symptoms, after 10 years 😰. I will talk to my physician about it, in my next visit. Thanks for all your tips.
🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️to get the bandages!!! OMG 😱 THANK YOU !!!! ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks Rene I didn’t know that either. My doctor didn’t tell me when she prescribed my patch.😊
It’s not silly I didn’t know that either. And I have been on the Patch for years no one ever told me. 😮 wow!!! Thank you for this video ❤
I AM SO GLAD YOU DID THIS VIDEO. I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING MY PATCHES ON BETWEEN SHOWERS, BATHS, AND LAKE TIME. I NOW USE YOUR METHOD WITH THE WATERPROOF BANDAGES.
Glad it was helpful!
@@WelcomeToMyCurls I’ve really enjoyed the videos. I also live in Kentucky. Fun to watch someone so close to home.
🤪Good to know! I would have thought the same as you did! Pre op appointment this Thursday and surgery next Tuesday. Wondering what form of HRT my doc will put me on. Thanks for the info!!
I am just starting patch today. I had no idea! I love taking baths too. I didn’t think about it getting diluted in the water. I’m going to get the water proof bandaids so I can still take a bath. Thank you!
I absolutely love you and your videos! You are so down to earth and honest! I could actually watch your videos everyday 😅! Keep them coming and have a blessed day.
Thank you!!! Have a great day!
Hi Renee! Thank you for sharing your experience! I would have never thought to wear a waterproof bandaid either and you know why? BECAUSE upon reading every blessed word on the pamphlet that came with my patches, NOT ONE word was mentioned about swimming (or bathing) or needing a waterproof bandaid in that case!!! So, shame on Novartis for not warning women about this most crucially important fact! You look great and you speak like a very intelligent woman...nothing dumb about you!
I had a very difficult time at the beginning of the video listening to you refering to yourself as " Stupid" and all of those diminish words. But it is the only video I found about this topic.
@@alejandraduque4061 at 9:08 she said her provider laughed at her and said “how do you not know that”. Super cringey! Women shouldn’t tell themselves they are stupid and their doctors shouldn’t laugh at them.
Thank you so very much for making this video. I had no idea! Nobody told me! How would we know if they don’t bother to tell us? Oh my goodness this would’ve really messed with me because I don’t have a pituitary gland so we’re replacing all the hormones the pituitary gland is supposed to make in addition to wearing an estrogen patch. I wouldn’t know where to start as to what was causing the problem. I can’t thank you enough for making this video!
I can't believe they didn't mention it to you when it was prescribed. I would never have known either, and definitely would have assumed if I can shower with it, I could swim with it. Glad you figured it out though. 🌷
Absolutely agree! And the paperwork provided with each box of patches says nothing about water or it’s effect on the patch.
That is crazy! I just started the patch. I haven't been swimming because it's winter. But I do have a pool and had absolutely no idea the patch wasn't waterproof! Thank you for the insight!!🤪
Randy better watch out, he may turn into a mermaid😂😂😂
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🧐- Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience. I would have thought the dispensing pharmacists would have mentioned something.
Happened to find your channel today. Thanks for the information! I’m going to visit my sister in FL next weekend and I know we’ll be in the pool a lot!
Omg! Thanks for sharing this. This explains alot! Ive been soaking in the tub most nights without covering my patch. I thought I needed a higher dosage! Soooo not stupid of you at all. I don't think i was informed of this. Thank you!
I'm 9n same hrt but the gel. Which is alot easier just rub in and go no need to cover over for swimming soaks straight into skin x
Tell me a little about the gel, is it more expensive? I had no idea there was a gel?
@@lizlovestruecrime983 it's called estrogel
Hi! Just thanking you for this video. You called yourself silly here a few times, and I just want to say that I don't think you are. Nobody told you not to swim in the patch, and that is absolutely a doctor's responsibility to tell you something like that. And a pharmacist's, too. I am just getting ready to start HRT myself, and I have asked so many questions of a few different docs. And not ONE of them told me this incredibly simple, but incredibly important thing. And I'm a swimmer. So, if I hadn't seen your video, ABSOLUTELY the same thing would have happened to me, and I might have never, ever have known why it wasn't working. I can't thank you enough.
So basically I would have to cover it every night when I take a bath. What a pain! Glad you told me about this because I'm probably going on the patch soon.
No....you can take a short bath. You just should't be submerged in water for 30+ minutes a day like I was in the pool.
Why? Why? Why? Is this not talked about more? Why is this not on the packaging!!!! You are not alone and you are the first time I am hearing this. I can’t believe I’ve been submerging in water the intire time I’ve been using my patch. Over 4 months. 🤦🏻♀️Thank you so much.
I’m not on the patch, but I do like a bath in the evening, so I bet the same could help others who take baths.
True!!
Wow, I’ve seen my gyno 4 times in the last year to adjust my HRT,have never been told this 🤯 woman helping women ❤thank you
Just got yourself a new subscriber 😊
My pdr. says you can swim in, my pharmacist says you can swim in it, the mayo clinic says you can swim , the pamphlet that come with the prescription says you can swim.
The doctor who first put me on estradiol patch said she was on the mini dot, which sounds like yours. She was saying how she loves it because it was so small and she can swim with it. I could not afford that one, so I am on the generic patch which is a little larger. I was putting them on my lower stomach, but found they would come off too easily. So I put them now just a little above the hips. Thank God I don't know how to swim.🤗
No one told me that either! I find your doctor’s laughter insensitive. You/we are not dumb! Thanks for the tip. My cholesterol was off the chart too, but my doctors kept insisting it was my diet. 😢 It took me doing my own research to associate high cholesterol to estrogen deficiency. Doctors - even OB/GYNs - are limited in their training and knowledge of peri and menopause.
Interesting, I have estradiol (Evorel) patch and the leaflet in the package says that the patch is waterproof and I can go swimming with the patch on. In the everyday activities, on the second point, it says: You can go swimming. The patch will not be affected.
I guess it depends on your supplier. I live in the UK.
Hmmmm interesting!!!!!
you are correct. Generic patches are not made as well.
LOL! I never would've thought the patch wasn't waterproof! Thank you for posting.
What about the Cholesterol aspect?? I am post menopausal. Started taking cholesterol medicine shortly after. So this is very interesting to me about the hormone effect. I am gona bring it up with my Dr.
My doctor says my cholesterol level has gone up become I’m not receiving my estrogen…and estrogen keeps cholesterol in check. I’m having my levels rechecked in 3 months and will absolutely report back on my channel 😀
@@WelcomeToMyCurlsyes please let us know mine are boarder line and I’m on the patch wondering if I need to up the dose …is ur doc a holistic practitioner cause mine has never told me that abt cholesterol but I kinda put the two together cause my levels were perfect till my hysterectomy….
I’m super curious about the cholesterol numbers too. I had my ovaries removed back in mid July and since then my cholesterol went up dramatically. I was just prescribed my estrogen patch today, the same one you are on as well as Omega-3 for my triglycerides. So hopefully it’ll drop again. I won’t take statins, because I’ve tried them before and i get massive brain fog. I hated how I felt on the statins. I hope this patch helps with sleep. I’m so tired of not being able to sleep and the hot and cold cycling all night long.
I didn't know they werentcwaterproof either and was never told by my doctor who gave them to me. Thank you for warning others.
Don't take responsibility for the manufacturer of the patch - they should have clearly pointed that out on the back of the box or the insert. Also, your doctor's and their staff are negligent for not telling you how to apply it and maintain it. You did everything correctly. I think all of us would have done the same as you. I am sure your doctors who live in the same climate as you and probably all have backyard pools and should have known that you did also and should have instructed you accordingly. You should write the manufacturers a letter to suggest they make a waterproof patch for people to use who swim in a pool or go on vacation and swim in the ocean or a hotel pool. Glad everything is back to normal for you.
Oh my!! I went to FL for 10 days in late April, spent everyday in the ocean and pool! I never knew it wasn't water proof!! I figured it was staying put so it was good! TY for letting me know this!! ❤😊
🤪 OMG ! I've been doing the same thing !!!!! I had no idea ! Thank you for bringing that up. I learn so much from you. Our pool will be closed on Sept 18 so I wont have to worry after that.
You are so welcome! Some years I can swim till mid-October luckily...which I LOVE!
Thank you so much for sharing this. I literally just started using this patch today, and I can tell you that no one told me to cover it for swimming… nor did I see it mentioned in the drug fact sheet. I won’t likely be swimming anytime really soon, but this is so helpful to know for when it comes up. Again, thank you!
Wait…this may explain a lot. I take hot baths every night…you may have just helped me figure out what is going on!
Same!! Ugh.