I like how Rudy is smart, talky and always excited. Zack's words are short and concise, but always looks like he's questioning his life choices. Great team I really enjoy the channel guys.
I came here expecting to see this comment. Such a short sighted thought to think you can properly torque something by hand when a torque wrench literally takes no extra effort.
If your torque wrench acts like that, you’ve most likely over tightening all your bolts. You should use the torque wrench when the bolt is still loose.
I'm almost certain those inner Cs are supposed to be an interference fit. Heat the inner c with a torch and freeze the tube, set them and let it lock in place. The majority of the strength comes from the interference fit that you ground off
Draw a 'C' through the center of your cut line to remove confusion on which line to cut. Common for pipe fitters as we have to mark numerous measurements before getting to the actual cut mark.
I don't know if you have any formal training in mechanics and fabrication or just learned it all yourself growing up with your Dad. Either way your crushing it on every build and the ingenuity put in each one is top notch. Thanks for bringing us along on each one!
I have a lot of respect for the guy but at the same time there's a reason a lot of his builds fail. Far too much rushing and doing things half assed. Take the time and do it right the first time. Same with your ring and pinion. Calling it now, that axle fails.
Make sure you lock your stuff up at night and any time your not right there watching it! Theft was terrible last year and you've got a lot of stuff with you.
Rudy you’ll want to have some tilt on the face of the housing for driveline angle. You might as well start with at least a few degrees added in before you completely burn it in.
Torque is important for the sake of stretching the bolts to the proper amount. They work like springs and if you over stretch a spring it won't go back to it's shape. If a bolt is over tightened it will not maintain proper tension on the psrt it's securing. Also it keeps even tension, ever done a brake job and had the rotors feel warped when tightening wheel studs with an impact? The differing tension causes radial imperfections or something like that.
Your correct about stretch BUT A short bolt that's all threads has very little stretch. The idea is tight and red lock tight. And yes his tightening and then test torqueing is all wrong. lets see matts use of claw hammers no tape measure's or no torque wrenches could that be the issue? look at the design of the first wrecker designed on cad (with TOM TOM the mechanical engineer's) help then look at the second one done just on a whim no real plan.
You two Gomers, your chiropractors and back doctors are going to love you both. Moving those axles by hand! You drop them, doing damage to them, or worse yet yourselves. DON'T make me come down there.
I'm one of those Gomers in my younger years, if I couldn't pick it up and move it, it was nailed or welded down.. Paying for it now that I'm 70yrs old.. Already had 5 knee surgeries, 2 back surgeries, 1 shoulder surgery.. Go ahead and say it, YOU DUMB SHIT!!! When your 6'7" @ 275lbs you think you can move the world, and I did a few times or was that the vertebra in my back crushing?? LMBO.. I can laugh at my own stupidity now....
Ur a great blend of fabricator/hippie. Like you rolled in from a week long trip to woodstock, and you show up to the shop, and ur girlfriend brings you some ‘brownies’, and you don’t know how to really do anything, but you know what, we’re all having a good time. Peace bro!!!!!!
Sorry Rudy Me again. I'm not sure but I think that when you set up this type of diff, as well as pinion depth and back lash you also have to set the drag on the crown wheel. You don't just nip the two end adjuster screws up and hope for the best. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will shoot me down. But previously when I've done the job you've just shown I've used a balance scale to set the drag. Who knows 🤷
Not going to shoot at you but YES, I was thinking the same thing until I saw him taking the official 2 hole preload on the carrier bearings.. Only 1 short scene where he did it but he did do it.. Good looking out....
if you can actually pull this build off and line up at the race ill be thoroughly impressed! its stressful and hard enough building stuff in my own shop let alone in another state in the middle of the desert hats off for even trying!
Its too late now but I would have suggested making that short side 3-4" longer so theres room for brackets to weld on the tube and to get the diff lined up more with the t-case. Having a down and sideways angle on that front driveline is going to cause extreme vibration at 10mph let alone 60plus in the desert.
I've been commenting how nice it was of you to edit out the grinder/ impact noises etc. It seems music is creeping in to replace it. I'd prefer just dulled workshop noise. I'd actually take the full volume grinder over the music. Wishing you all the best in this build. Super stoked for you!
Your dad said he was going to race the Baja but then didn't do it this year like he said he was going to. Hopefully you don't follow in his footsteps. His bills also take forever. Yours you are pretty concise and don't stop until it's done. Maybe you will actually go to the race like you say you're going to unlike him
Cherokee XJs towing capacity is 3,500 lbs without a load leveler, 5,000 with. If you have a tranny cooler the power train will do more than that, easy. But over 3,500 the trailer throws the jeep around pretty easy. You won't want to go more than about 50-55MPH. Less with wind.
Rad charger forgotten weld led to a trail breakdown. Mini cooper was forgotten oil in the diff Guessing those tacked on C’s will be forgotten and a wheel is coming off mid race this go around.
Hey Rudy, I got a challenge for ya. I’m going to start training a robot to stick weld (the right way, not like making sparkles like your dad), and you just try learning how to stick weld? We’ll rendezvous in a year and see who’s repairs make it off the trail! What stakes do you propose? How about 5 stickers?!!!!!
I know your young and strong, but I would be using the engine crane to move thing's only takes one rong move and you could regret it, 😮 thanks for sharing, all the best
Its best to wash out the threads and bolts in the ring gear with brake clean then use red locktight. Or they will come loose. Also tightening then checking with a torque wrench does not work due to break away torque the torque wrench needs to be moving at least 1/8 of a turn before it clicks. oh and look up unsprung weight its really important. When your prepping a car you have to think critical what could possibly go wrong and address it before you leave the shop. the old confident no measuring , no planning it wont make no difference will bite you in the --- in that race. Good luck
They make Wilwood calipers that are dual piston calipers that will fit perfectly on your rear axle. They are a direct replacement for those chevy calipers you put on the rear axle. No modifications and no special brake pads or hoses.
Rudy you need to get some Walter Enduro-flex turbo flap discs… I really wish I would’ve found these at the beginning of my Jeep build. They are way more expensive, but they cut so much faster and last WAY longer than any other disc I’ve ever seen
AWESOME WORK AS ALWAYS. ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET A LINK FOR THOSE UNIT BEARING CUPS YOU USED, BEEN LOOKING FOR A GOOD SET FOR A BIT. ANY WAY LOVE THE SET UP 👍
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Dude , Bro Rudy that was low down and despicable you said this video 📹 Zack can you kick Rudy in the behind for us ,thank you. Well can't wait for the next video, safe travels guy's.
Or did you over torque every one and the torque wrench not register?!?! Kinda serious kinda joking! All and all curious to learn. Great fabrication as usual!🇺🇸🙏
YOU CAN'T CHECK TORQUE STATICALLY!!! If the fastener isn't moving, torque is produced by thd static friction factor which is considerably higher than the dynamic friction factor. So, you could still be under torqued even though the fastener doesn't turn. Torque must be applied to a moving fastener for correct application. Tossing a torque wrench on after thd bolt stops turning is meaningless, unless the bolt turns more.
Dude - torque wrench doesn’t hardly move - could mean it was already over torqued. If the goal is looking for a minimum torque, what you did was good. If the part needs a specific torque applied, then you did it wrong. Tighten it, but not all the way. Then use the torque wrench to FINISH to the specified level. There are many applications that look for the correct ugga-duggas and over tightening is bad. The click doesn’t always mean you got it right Lug nuts look for a certain amount, and if you grab the big gun and hold the trigger you can over-tighten it. This leads to busted lugs while on the road. This is how I found out a battery powered Snap-on has hundreds of lbs of torque. Almost died when the nuts started popping off. One cracked stud was holding a 37” tire on an expensive jeep. Enjoy the lake bed.
Rudy, you didn't prove that the ring bolts were torqued to spec. You proved that they were at least torqued to spec. They could be too tight based on what you showed us in the video. Except for the bolts that moved a little. They are torqued to spec. You were very close to spec, I have to give you that. You seem to have inherited your Dad's torque sense.
I like how Rudy is smart, talky and always excited. Zack's words are short and concise, but always looks like he's questioning his life choices. Great team I really enjoy the channel guys.
True, but without Janelle on the job the whole thing would go all to pieces.
Don’t forget the gear oil on these nice new axles 🤘😎 stay rad
You’re commenting as though that’s happened before. 😂🤣😂🤣
Yes. I know he forgot in the King Cooper.
That torque wrench will not tell you if you over tighten them
Sure it will, if the bolt doesn't move it's too tight.
@@larryboy8821 Yep. It's staggering how this is beyond understanding for some.
Tighten until it strips then back off a quarter turn.
And if they move, probably broke loose the lock tight
I came here expecting to see this comment.
Such a short sighted thought to think you can properly torque something by hand when a torque wrench literally takes no extra effort.
If your torque wrench acts like that, you’ve most likely over tightening all your bolts. You should use the torque wrench when the bolt is still loose.
Guessing at proper torque is a lot like representing yourself in court. Only a fool does it.
@@DesertGeezers Spot on sport!
Torque too loose = fastener fails elegantly; Torque too tight = fastener fails catastrophically.
Janel, since you are the only adult in the room, I salute you 🫡
Higgins has entered the chat.
The ones that didn’t move when torqued. Were obviously over torqued. 🤠
I'm almost certain those inner Cs are supposed to be an interference fit. Heat the inner c with a torch and freeze the tube, set them and let it lock in place. The majority of the strength comes from the interference fit that you ground off
My hats off for venturing into this new realm of fabrication. Good luck.
Draw a 'C' through the center of your cut line to remove confusion on which line to cut. Common for pipe fitters as we have to mark numerous measurements before getting to the actual cut mark.
I don't know if you have any formal training in mechanics and fabrication or just learned it all yourself growing up with your Dad. Either way your crushing it on every build and the ingenuity put in each one is top notch. Thanks for bringing us along on each one!
I'm fairly certain he did indeed learn everything from growing up in garages. Like his younger brothers.
@ChrisTesch87 oh yeah Collen and Rhett have come a long way in a very short time. Not to mention the rest of the crew past and present.
@@poppasmurf1969Kaulin
I second it-very well put
That was very interesting watching you create a new axle with all blank parts.
Wow ! That sunset when you were hauling out that axel was amazing sure sign of good luck.
*Over-Torqued Bolts!*
Exactly
So very very
It's a Utah thing
😂😂 so correct.
I have a lot of respect for the guy but at the same time there's a reason a lot of his builds fail. Far too much rushing and doing things half assed. Take the time and do it right the first time. Same with your ring and pinion. Calling it now, that axle fails.
Can’t wait to see this Jeep in action!
Rudy, good to hear your off the Energy Drinks
Thank goodness Zach has arrived !
It's your build,other can kiss off. What's the most could happen, Boom
. Smile and keep on building.
Rudy, I've only got one thing to say about you "YOU'RE AWESOME" Aloha
Make sure you lock your stuff up at night and any time your not right there watching it! Theft was terrible last year and you've got a lot of stuff with you.
Never seen anything stolen in 15 years. It’s happened but rare.
Like father like son when it comes to torque wrenches lol!!! You're doing just fine Rudy.
Please make some videos of finishing and then driving one of these builds. Wheres the jeep truck? Is the mini good offroad?
Rudy you’ll want to have some tilt on the face of the housing for driveline angle. You might as well start with at least a few degrees added in before you completely burn it in.
Torque is important for the sake of stretching the bolts to the proper amount. They work like springs and if you over stretch a spring it won't go back to it's shape. If a bolt is over tightened it will not maintain proper tension on the psrt it's securing. Also it keeps even tension, ever done a brake job and had the rotors feel warped when tightening wheel studs with an impact? The differing tension causes radial imperfections or something like that.
Your correct about stretch BUT A short bolt that's all threads has very little stretch. The idea is tight and red lock tight. And yes his tightening and then test torqueing is all wrong. lets see matts use of claw hammers no tape measure's or no torque wrenches could that be the issue? look at the design of the first wrecker designed on cad (with TOM TOM the mechanical engineer's) help then look at the second one done just on a whim no real plan.
Ask Rory about red locktite on ring gear bolts.
This should be fun to watch.
Rudy cracks me up, but its also clear that with his humility and wry sense of humor that he will every bit of the mentor/teacher that his dad is.
You spelt hack wrong
You two Gomers, your chiropractors and back doctors are going to love you both. Moving those axles by hand! You drop them, doing damage to them, or worse yet yourselves. DON'T make me come down there.
I'm one of those Gomers in my younger years, if I couldn't pick it up and move it, it was nailed or welded down.. Paying for it now that I'm 70yrs old.. Already had 5 knee surgeries, 2 back surgeries, 1 shoulder surgery.. Go ahead and say it, YOU DUMB SHIT!!! When your 6'7" @ 275lbs you think you can move the world, and I did a few times or was that the vertebra in my back crushing?? LMBO.. I can laugh at my own stupidity now....
Mental note: TACKED ON!
Top Tip...don't install the pinion o-ring till you are happy with the setup. You might accidentally cause a leak.
Nice work Rudy and Janel Happy New Year
Ur a great blend of fabricator/hippie. Like you rolled in from a week long trip to woodstock, and you show up to the shop, and ur girlfriend brings you some ‘brownies’, and you don’t know how to really do anything, but you know what, we’re all having a good time. Peace bro!!!!!!
You got this Rudy! Looking forward to following this build. Much Love!
Sorry Rudy
Me again. I'm not sure but I think that when you set up this type of diff, as well as pinion depth and back lash you also have to set the drag on the crown wheel. You don't just nip the two end adjuster screws up and hope for the best. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will shoot me down. But previously when I've done the job you've just shown I've used a balance scale to set the drag. Who knows 🤷
Not going to shoot at you but YES, I was thinking the same thing until I saw him taking the official 2 hole preload on the carrier bearings.. Only 1 short scene where he did it but he did do it.. Good looking out....
Boys, don’t forget the oil!!!! Lol, looking forward to seeing the build videos!!
if you can actually pull this build off and line up at the race ill be thoroughly impressed! its stressful and hard enough building stuff in my own shop let alone in another state in the middle of the desert hats off for even trying!
Its too late now but I would have suggested making that short side 3-4" longer so theres room for brackets to weld on the tube and to get the diff lined up more with the t-case. Having a down and sideways angle on that front driveline is going to cause extreme vibration at 10mph let alone 60plus in the desert.
I know how you feel rudy I havnt had a rockstar in 1314 days.. and every time i see one i still want one
372 days here since my last energy drink. Nobody understands how much I want a Birthday Cake Bash Bang. I commend you🫡
A Torque Rench isn't only to get it tight enough but also so you don't over stretch the bolt's 😂, thanks for sharing, all the best
2:15 would the bolts move if they were over-torqued? 😊
I've been commenting how nice it was of you to edit out the grinder/ impact noises etc. It seems music is creeping in to replace it. I'd prefer just dulled workshop noise. I'd actually take the full volume grinder over the music. Wishing you all the best in this build. Super stoked for you!
Ya gots love a guy that can prove [in his mind] that he is right. Even if it’s torquing bolts.
Your dad said he was going to race the Baja but then didn't do it this year like he said he was going to. Hopefully you don't follow in his footsteps. His bills also take forever. Yours you are pretty concise and don't stop until it's done. Maybe you will actually go to the race like you say you're going to unlike him
Cherokee XJs towing capacity is 3,500 lbs without a load leveler, 5,000 with.
If you have a tranny cooler the power train will do more than that, easy. But over 3,500 the trailer throws the jeep around pretty easy. You won't want to go more than about 50-55MPH. Less with wind.
Rad charger forgotten weld led to a trail breakdown.
Mini cooper was forgotten oil in the diff
Guessing those tacked on C’s will be forgotten and a wheel is coming off mid race this go around.
They’ll be heathers with the brake lines.
He "accidentally" forgot to put in the diff oil..
The bolt not moving could mean they're over torqued, but based on the bolts barely moving tells you you're definitely close.
Enjoying the build.
Nice video, Rudy!! Man, those are some good-looking axles!! Almost a shame to get them all dirty!! ALMOST!!!
Working on plenty of vehicles during the years you get a feel for how tight bolts need to be, I have never used a torque wrench🤘🏼💪🏼🦅🇺🇸
You probably don't read instructions either, first sign of a hack
Can’t wait for the camping trip!
Hope you are thinking about safety when you are out there in the wilderness! Stay alert, and stay strapped!
I will arrive at the lake bed 20 Jan. I'll look you up.
Take it from and old man that used to think if I could lift it I should, BAD PLAN YOUNG MAN!! It will catch up with you.
Hey Rudy, I got a challenge for ya. I’m going to start training a robot to stick weld (the right way, not like making sparkles like your dad), and you just try learning how to stick weld? We’ll rendezvous in a year and see who’s repairs make it off the trail! What stakes do you propose? How about 5 stickers?!!!!!
Use a corded grinder for ur big cuts, aint nobody got time for that sh*t
I know your young and strong, but I would be using the engine crane to move thing's only takes one rong move and you could regret it, 😮 thanks for sharing, all the best
Wow with the price of that housing you would have thought they would have made it right to start with !
Its best to wash out the threads and bolts in the ring gear with brake clean then use red locktight. Or they will come loose.
Also tightening then checking with a torque wrench does not work due to break away torque the torque wrench needs to be moving at least 1/8 of a turn before it clicks.
oh and look up unsprung weight its really important.
When your prepping a car you have to think critical what could possibly go wrong and address it before you leave the shop. the old confident no measuring , no planning it wont make no difference will bite you in the --- in that race.
Good luck
Great job again.
23:10 i'd run that pattern Ruddy! Great video, can't wait for the next!!
They make Wilwood calipers that are dual piston calipers that will fit perfectly on your rear axle. They are a direct replacement for those chevy calipers you put on the rear axle. No modifications and no special brake pads or hoses.
Wilson’s expensive. Rudy is a young buck. Cash is limited
Awesome axle
i love the little pretty woman giggle you let off 😂😂
Boys! Lift with your back, not your knees!😂
Rudy you need to get some Walter Enduro-flex turbo flap discs… I really wish I would’ve found these at the beginning of my Jeep build. They are way more expensive, but they cut so much faster and last WAY longer than any other disc I’ve ever seen
Don’t forget the gear oil!
Nice work rudy
Hope it goes well
Hahaha 😂 you’re crazy and i think it’s a fantasticly bad idea to do this and because of that i totally support it!😁👍🏻👍🏻🤣
AWESOME WORK AS ALWAYS. ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET A LINK FOR THOSE UNIT BEARING CUPS YOU USED, BEEN LOOKING FOR A GOOD SET FOR A BIT. ANY WAY LOVE THE SET UP 👍
I enjoy your REAL adventures!
I’m an old HotRod Home Builder!
400hp mustang and 5.0 swapping Ranger 4X4 4.10 8.8 trac loc
STAY KOOL 👨🏻🦳
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nice e sunset 👍
Hay Rudy that shaft looks a little to short to put springs are you going to use different set up for your spring set up.
Just dont forget to add the special sauce to the front diff 😜
I'm not sure how comfortable I am with you doing all this work without Zach's supervision. 🤔😬😉
Nice work yall
Dude , Bro Rudy that was low down and despicable you said this video 📹 Zack can you kick Rudy in the behind for us ,thank you. Well can't wait for the next video, safe travels guy's.
What’s the plan for inner axle seals? Mainly on the front.
missing a couple of bolts in the rear pinion housing, don't forget.
If you shut your eyes you can't tell if it's you or your dad
Or did you over torque every one and the torque wrench not register?!?! Kinda serious kinda joking! All and all curious to learn. Great fabrication as usual!🇺🇸🙏
That was my thoughts exactly.
Yea I thought the same thing.
Glad it wasn’t just me. I don’t know if it matters there, bug I’ve over tightened lugs a couple times and it definitely matters there
Don't forget the gear oil........great video
609 axils! hell yeah!
YOU CAN'T CHECK TORQUE STATICALLY!!!
If the fastener isn't moving, torque is produced by thd static friction factor which is considerably higher than the dynamic friction factor. So, you could still be under torqued even though the fastener doesn't turn. Torque must be applied to a moving fastener for correct application. Tossing a torque wrench on after thd bolt stops turning is meaningless, unless the bolt turns more.
I quit drinking every night at 9pm but nobody likes a quieter.
2:17 The torque wrench thing must be in the genes. Get that from Daddy.
Dude - torque wrench doesn’t hardly move - could mean it was already over torqued. If the goal is looking for a minimum torque, what you did was good. If the part needs a specific torque applied, then you did it wrong. Tighten it, but not all the way. Then use the torque wrench to FINISH to the specified level. There are many applications that look for the correct ugga-duggas and over tightening is bad.
The click doesn’t always mean you got it right
Lug nuts look for a certain amount, and if you grab the big gun and hold the trigger you can over-tighten it. This leads to busted lugs while on the road. This is how I found out a battery powered Snap-on has hundreds of lbs of torque. Almost died when the nuts started popping off. One cracked stud was holding a 37” tire on an expensive jeep.
Enjoy the lake bed.
Rudy, you didn't prove that the ring bolts were torqued to spec. You proved that they were at least torqued to spec. They could be too tight based on what you showed us in the video. Except for the bolts that moved a little. They are torqued to spec. You were very close to spec, I have to give you that. You seem to have inherited your Dad's torque sense.
Pattern looks fine Rudy
Could see it 😂
Something tells me that you might be freezing and wet if you're in Johnson Valley today.
no locitte on ur ring bolts?
Bad ass
Can’t wait
I like the channel brother. But you do know the bolts on the ring gear that didn’t move may have been too tight..😂
Did you happen to use any locktight on the ring gear bolts?
Don't put don't forget to put differential juice in it we don't want the bearing to seize
You could argue the fact that the ring gear bolts are over torqued no?
23:09 nice pattern. ;)
Cool thing about 3rd members is you can carry spares easily. Just expensive :/
Gday guys
The you tube certified mechanic is telling us what's right or wrong. His dad does the same things, and his diff just came apart in one of his builds.
Speaking of youtube certified, lets see the last gear set you put in a third member :-)
24:42 Yes Zach you do go to Rudy's gym.
At 2:40 that "Hot all over" feeling when you realize somethin' ain't right...again
That’s pretty neat 😂