Tbh, I didn't expect EG to stomp MAD. This is the 2nd time ever that an EU team failed to make it pass play-ins and coincidently it's the same team that also failed to make it pass play-ins 2 years ago.
@@tobiasholding855 its pretty obvious that riot is leaving him so strong so that he's the next victorious skin and gets a world's skin. Pretty much no other reasonn. He's been the best top laner all season
I forgot to lock in my pick-em for this game and so it went to coin flip. I saw that it went to EG and was "oh well, there goes my points". Little did I know that MAD was going to get STOMPED lmao
I think it’s kinda obvious that he wasn’t looking at the draft. The editor can only work with what LS does on stream. He clearly didn’t see the drafts until they were in game
Sad Lions the only team from a major region not to qualify for Groups twice now. Someone get Elyoya some teammates, man deserves better after his performance this Worlds.
NA = EU in general and EG is 3rd seed while MAD is 4th seed. Its not surprising that EG is stronger. Also EG is LCS spring champion. EU fans are so delusional that they want all EU teams to be better in every NA teams. These two regions are literally comparable in overall skills.
@@phinksmagcub1325 overall yes, lec just has a couple tier 1 teams (old G2, FNC) each year, while NA struggles with that, C9 being a tier-1 team for most of the times for NA. The rest of the teams on both region are on similar levels.
What's funny is that before this game Elyoya had an interview where he said stuff like "NA is weak. I'm not worried about NA. It'll be an easy game." That did not age well... lol
Idk when unforgiven became unable to play anything other than seraphine, its also rly hard to draft when ur toplaner and midlaner can play like 2-3 champs max
Jojo really knows how to get into other people's skin 😂 Dude spammed pregame chat with Nisqy's champ pool to annoy tf out of him 😂 Nisqy easily gets tilted and is probably the reason why he hard-forced that Sylas pick on Game 2 because Jojo taunted him so much.
Yeah, the dragon fight game 2 was the moment I came to the conclusion he was mega tilted. Mind you I just saw highlights so I can't criticize full performance but I feel the tilt in his play was pretty obvious...
I mean I guess? Its our 4th seed who didnt win a single BO5 ahahah relax Also, I genuinely dont think we are very far apart from NA right now (im from EU) Like historically we are considerably better but teams this year have just looked terrible I still hold out some hopium for G2 showing up strong internationally and maybe some never before seen Rogue clutch, but I would not be surprised at all if C9 finished ahead of every EU team
I think c9 is the strongest of the 6 teams. EU was at his peak when Perkz was the adc for G2. Since last year EU has regressed to an NA level I’d say. Hopefully both regions can make some noise at worlds.
hands-down. Armut's gotta go, unforgiven has always been average. Even kaiser has fallen off lately, it was either nisqy stepping up or Elyoya playing out of his mind vs 9 players (already unlikely for even the best in the world) (and nisqy, did not step up. thats for sure)
tbh you need to play for the draven lane, bad lions were drafting some awful garbage, and then not playing for the draven at all, what even was the point of them putting him on draven to begin with, if they're not gonna spend any amount of mid/jg pressure bottlane, might as well have gone for scaling adcs
@@hehexd5317 Yeah if only unforgiven was able to play more than 2 champs. Game 1 they went for the Draven First pick instead of cait, then game 2 funniest one, B3 with no adcs picked or banned whatsoever locks on Draven.
@@the350studios4 it's not like there's a much different skillset needed to play the different adcs, especially not the scaling ones. i don't think it was a champion pool issue, probably just ego gap
Am I the only one NOT that surprised that EG won in the fashion they did? MAD didn't win a single BO5 before worlds and EG looked solid the entire year.
Hum, tbh Mad should have done much better, but yeah, a 3-0 stomp isn't very representative of both teams potential, but yeah, I'm not that surprised EG won !
MAD has 2 major huge weaknesses. First is Armut, the second is their trash tier mental fortitude. Like you could see they stopped playing after EG stole their baron with smite. Then they just ran down 2 full games on auto-pilot mode after that. This means they always qualify to play in worlds play-ins when they don't have to win any BO5. They get a full day of rest and mental preparation between games. But if you force them to play 3 or more games in a row, the moment they make their first huge tilting misplay, it's over.
MAD drafts were awful even in game 3. Shameful that a team in play ins sucks so bad at draft. The coach should be held accountable. Lost the games before they even began
@@MauroJesus100 there's just not proof for that look at tsm and tl when tl lost their coach their drafting changed and tsm has the same terrible drafting after their entire roster changed multiple times
As an EG fanboy this was a blast to watch live on stream. EG just stomping mad even though they have a substitute ADC from academy. Mad is looking horrendous this year I really want to see EG succeed but I know they are in for a rough awakening in groups
Did you start playing recently? Genuine question, I've wondered how EG gets fans and I figured it might be the same way I became a C9 fan, bc I started watching when they joined LCS around S3 when they just pubstomped every split. I don't have any strong biases against their team, I just think it's frustrating watching them because their ceiling is high, but they rarely play at that level. Not that it's just them, I have problems with a lot of NA teams, but that specifically is why I don't like watching them.
@@slash_Mute I have been watching since about season 4. I like EGs players a whole lot because they have personalities and make the scene better as a whole with their drama
@@slash_Mute eg definitely gets fans because of the banter the players have, inspired and jojo in particular, but vulcan chimes in as well, from time to time, and they're a pretty decent team, i also like that they're trying to develop actual NA players, so that's cool too (big ups to peter dunn), it really goes against the "there's no NA talent" narrative, it just shows that orgs are lazy and either go for washed up pros (last year's CLG), or just buy big names from other regions, it's way more interesting when it's actual NA vs EU instead of EU lite vs EU (although EG did end up being just 2 NA players in the end, but that can't be helped with danny and the whole mental breakdown thing)
What are these huge draft gaps though? You should think that after over 12 years of competitive gaming this game has seen, coaches and teams would focus more on drafts, when the actual pure skill gap between players shrinks from year to year.
LS often says the pro skill stagnated that's probably because how frequently riot decides to change things up. You basically have to throw whatever u practiced in one patch and learn something entirely new again. Compare this to scbw where pros reached insane levels
@@pramitpratimdas8198 Its natural for pro level skill to start stagnating the longer any given game is played, that's why you need to look for other ways to gain an edge over your opponent (new strategies like LS tried to implement them or outdrafting your opponents). Thats what confuses me the most. A good draft can easily win games alone or at least force more favourable outcomes in the long run. It's also the easiest thing to prepare for with decent analysts and coaches. Pure game skill is hard to acquire, but you can gain knowledge and insight pretty consistently when you start to recognize patterns.
@@jacobskrong6781 don't get me wrong im an eu fan, but just look at the games he doesn't play gnar. It's just so much worse compared to the games he does get to play gnar. Also the third game nisqy was actually winning, until armut hard lost top and seju could be perma mid.
What do you mean he can only play Gnar? He can also play Dino Gnar, Gentleman Gnar, El León Gnar, Super Galaxy Gnar, Astronaut Gnar and Elderwood Gnar.
EG is a solid team actually. Impact is impact, Inspired is top 5 western JG, jojo is a scrappy skilled rookie, kaori stepping up as a darkhorse academy call-up, vulcan is the best NA support at worlds, probably top 5 in the west too.
I like LS but honestly even in this video in some of the most important moments in the series he is not even looking at the game, and talking about some random stuff or arguing with chat
It's just crazy how good Impact has been for so many years. Obviously NA is a much weaker region compared to the other 3 but hes been dominant for so long.
When I watched these games live, the first game, if they picked jarvan over vi, the combo with rumble would have been sick and vi wouldn't have the issue of going in and just doing nothing vs tk, I guess their coach doesn't think of it, if you have vi rumble 4/5, you should pick jarvan rumble, that combo is sick
it’s “ay”- trox, not “ah”-trox. Rhaast even says it. Sure it’s “rah”ast not “ray”ast, but the voice lines say “ay”trox. Por favor, aatrox just wants to be loved :(
Man it feels so good to watch MAD lose depsite the fact that EG probably wont do much better in their group. The fanboys where getting out of hand when Nisqy joined. Hope unforgiven and Elyoya finds better teammates, Elyoya looks tilted and broken at this point x3
Yeah abd nisqy basically played so good on the team. They look disjointed. And tilted, draft gappin themselves. But i asume you are a loser big nose nemesis fanboy ?
Hard being a jungle when you have weak laners. It's a season of hell for Elyoya every year ever since Humanoid left. Well, now that I think about it, Humanoid probably knew that his team was a sinking ship so he left lol.
I really doubt it that Armut wil be with MAD next season. I really hope he is not with them. If you can only play Gnar and don't get Gnar... Just play Ornn, Or Sion or any tank
Why does everyone have so much high hope for MAD anyway? Like they don't even deserve that 4 seed spot when they literally lost every BO5 in LEC and somehow people believe they can beat EG in a BO5.
Because Stupidity from a lot of EU fans who think that EU is that much of a step above NA and because G2 beat EG 6x and Fnatic crushed them that means MAD were gonna smash them. Most sane EU fans knew this was not gonna be a MAD stomp.
@@PeoplePleaser578 do you really think that eu isnt a step ahead of NA just because they won a single best of 5 in what, 3 years? That must mean that LCK isnt a step ahead of EU.... You won against us, be happy about it as long as you can but dont start to be delusional
@@leeccilee7605 I’m from EU - I’m just not a fanboy that thinks there is that much of a difference between 0-6 and 2-4. Or there is some gold in skill between NA and EU. There isn’t - Everyone is still losing, just because G2 made top 8 in worlds doesn’t mean the rest of EU is actually good. The only delusional ones is anyone who thinks that G2 finishing top 8 means the entirety of EU is a step above NA. (Also it’s 8 years - NA hasn’t won a Bo5 in 8 years. They haven’t faced each other in a Bo5 since 2019). No there is an actual Gap between LCK/LPL and LEC. Fnatic and G2 are the only teams to have beaten a real LCK/LPL seed. Especially in Bo5. There is a clear defined gap between LCK/LPL and LEC.
It definitely isn’t, if you look at t1 games in spring for example their drafts were shit and they still dominated the LCK. It’s just that LS put a ton of emphasis on the drafts because they do play an important role. It’s literally the job of pro players to try to win so the fact that they don’t bother to learn the meta and get outdrafted so badly very often just triggers him a ton
MAD should get LS as head coach so he can draft for them. MAD need to get Viteo mid and Rekless ADC. Maybe keep Nisqy but i feel like Elyoya can be a leader and they can get a playmaker instead.
not gonna replace the glaring issue that is the useless toplaner with the huge champion ocean of 2 champions (gnar/wu)? also, vetheo is highly overrated, he's good on 2-3 champs (lb/akali/sylas), everything else he's mediocre on
@@hehexd5317 so what? Look at LNG all Doinb played is Akali and Renekton. All Ale played was Fiora. In fact most LPL top laners only know hot to play Jax and Fiora and are useless in anything else. There is nothing wrong with having a champ pool of 3 or 4 champs and especially if u can perform well in those.
I am from EU . EG was better then MAD The system is fucking bad how we send teams to worlds . Mad was not our 4th seed . The Gauntlet is needed . G2 2018 was a gauntlet team that beat RNG and went to semis . Xcel and Misfits played better then MAD in play-off for those teams to not have a chance to play for the spot is madness . XL looked fucking leagues above MAD . You can't just have a good split of B01 where you get a few lucky wins and just fucking ignore play-off lose 6 games and make it to worlds . We would not get G2 2019 without the gauntlet cuz Caps would not join a team that did not make worlds . The Gauntlet was so important and we have shity points and spots on random b01. VIT had a bad streak at the end eliminated Mad has a super bad streak in the most important part of the season auto-qualified. Fuck that system . At make it a rule if you don't win a b05 play another with the teams that lost to . We can at least see who sucks the most.
First pick, I understand, but the second game was just Nisqy taking Jojo's bait into saying his Sylas sucks. Could've just tuned that out but boy Nisqy isn't the most reasonable person (as seen in his moments with Upset always saying his IQ is very low lmao).
As an euw supporter, i'm glad EG won. I refuse to cheer for a team who didnt won a single bo5 during season when LNG won 4 and aren't there. The presence of MAD at world is a shame
Not really - It doesn’t mean anything. It means EG are better than MAD which isn’t really surprising. NA teams are more flexible this than EU teams but it’s not a “reality check”.
@@PeoplePleaser578 It's a reality check to stop the arrogance & believing most of their teams could smash NA just because G2 perform well, 85% of pickems expected a MAD win so they were the favorites.
@@Aespyn the NA team being hard carried by an EU jungler you mean? Yeah jojo played well too but let’s be real it was mostly an inspired gap almost all the plays they went for early wouldn’t work if inspired didn’t Smurf it
@@Aespyn Not really - If a team is 7-0 against teams from EU, you are gonna assume that region is better. Especially as NA has not beaten EU in a Bo5 since 2015 C9 and even then it was UOL who were a challenger team at the time. At worlds NA has never beaten EU in a best of 5 - That is why people expected MAD to win. Which is not an unreasonable expectation. It’s not a reality check at all - It’s 1 Bo5 in 10 years, it’s a reality check when it happens consistently.
@@pete5516 MAD were individually gapped in every role, that's not an inspired diff when Elyoya is the only one from MAD who looked like he wanted to win.
EU fans should stop saying Mad lion didn't win a single BO5 in LEC to get to world as a reason for NA shouldn't celebrate. Because deep down, EU fans know they are so ready to use the same point to BM NA fans if EG lose. Stop this double standard shit and just let NA fan have their moment. EG played well and Mad Lion didn't. End of discussion.
I mean they're not wrong. MAD only qualified for worlds because of the situation with the LCL and Russia. If it wasn't for that they wouldn't even BE there because EU would've only had three seeds, which would've been G2, Rogue and Fnatic.
@@riven4121 I understand the circumstance completely, but is that a reason to not let ppl have their moment of celebrations in a major event. NA have been roasted by EU fans for years. Let NA fans have their moment. EG have disadvantage too coming to world. Danny, their main adc is not playing. Let the rest of "true" EU teams proof EU > NA instead of making excuse like mad lion don't belong here, because this just make EU looks weak and can't stand to lose.
@@jeremy0115 personally, us an eu fan, i'm actually happy that the bad lions got clapped, the reasoning behind the happiness is that they didn't win a single bo5, that doesn't really discredit EG or their win over them, i personally also like it because some of the more delusional fans keep talking about how lastralis or bds would be the best team in the LCS, there's this weird narrative about dogshit teams being good or something, "muh kcorp would beat bottom tier LEC teams" or "muh bds would be the 1st team in the LCS", it's really cringe
Imagine Kaori going from Academy to beating an EU team at worlds. Dude must think he’s dreaming.
tbh Mad shouldn't be there and they are there cause G2 are going through a transicion Fanatic is kinda hit and miss
@@christonchev9762 both G2 and FNC are in groups, so that's irrelevant
Why isnt Danny on EG roster anymore?
@@seimsl9684 He's mentally ill I believe, he needs to take time off
@@seimsl9684 he stopped or dropped out for the moment because of mental health issue
Tbh, I didn't expect EG to stomp MAD. This is the 2nd time ever that an EU team failed to make it pass play-ins and coincidently it's the same team that also failed to make it pass play-ins 2 years ago.
EU still kinda made it past playoffs, got Fnatic in.
@@AM-we1es bro he's referring to AN EU TEAM not EU as a whole
Not a coincidence.
I don’t think that’s a coincidence lol
Why is that a coincidence?
Sure is fun and cool seeing Aatrox healing for his entire HP bar 15 times over, in EVERY single worlds game
its isnane they havent nerfed that champ before worlds
@@tobiasholding855 its pretty obvious that riot is leaving him so strong so that he's the next victorious skin and gets a world's skin. Pretty much no other reasonn. He's been the best top laner all season
@@carcosa_tyrant9444 hey newfrog.. he already has a victorious skin. Stfu kindly
@@carcosa_tyrant9444 Aatrox has a victorious skin already.
@@spitefully they could rework that skin, its terrible
I forgot to lock in my pick-em for this game and so it went to coin flip. I saw that it went to EG and was "oh well, there goes my points". Little did I know that MAD was going to get STOMPED lmao
Same but it went the other way around...
Can you show draft next time? It's my favorite part of LS's videos and wanted to hear draft takes.
honestly this
he was doing patch notes during draft
I think it’s kinda obvious that he wasn’t looking at the draft. The editor can only work with what LS does on stream. He clearly didn’t see the drafts until they were in game
He didn't watch the drafts yesterday. Editor could show draft but ls would be talking about Twitter drama or patch notes lol.
Sad Lions the only team from a major region not to qualify for Groups twice now. Someone get Elyoya some teammates, man deserves better after his performance this Worlds.
sad that they did not win a bo5 and qualify to worlds if MSF was here instead Sadge
@@sultanbundi3415 Msf had an even worse run in playoffs
It's all coming together for Elyoya to succeed Jankos in G2 when he retires and I'm kinda scared about that as a FNC fan
Rogue Elyoya incoming 🙏
@@pax1913 elyoya in fnc would actually be the best, cause of the synergy with humanoid
Didn’t expect EG to clap MAD like THAT!
I’m excited for group stage 🙌🏼🙌🏼
NA = EU in general and EG is 3rd seed while MAD is 4th seed. Its not surprising that EG is stronger. Also EG is LCS spring champion. EU fans are so delusional that they want all EU teams to be better in every NA teams. These two regions are literally comparable in overall skills.
@@phinksmagcub1325 XD
@@phinksmagcub1325 delusional clown. NA WEAKEST REGION AT WORLDS. BRONZE
@@phinksmagcub1325 overall yes, lec just has a couple tier 1 teams (old G2, FNC) each year, while NA struggles with that, C9 being a tier-1 team for most of the times for NA. The rest of the teams on both region are on similar levels.
@Kim Faes F*Kim Every team is full of imports.
"so why didn't mad take maokai?"
*cricketS*
LOL great moment there
Probably thought something along the lines of "It's okay, we can counter it" 😂
Elyoya looks so tilted and I feel for him. He deserves better
nah he deserved the lose
What's funny is that before this game Elyoya had an interview where he said stuff like "NA is weak. I'm not worried about NA. It'll be an easy game."
That did not age well... lol
Idk when unforgiven became unable to play anything other than seraphine, its also rly hard to draft when ur toplaner and midlaner can play like 2-3 champs max
@@JoshuaGraves113 na is weak though just look at the amount of players they have to import to be at this level of relevancy.
@@ReZzTM If anyone on that team deserved to win, it would be Elyoya. Still don't understand how Nisqy became Summer MVP
Nisqy really shit the bed in this one. Jojo hard broke him in the mental game on Champions Queue
Just from the pre game lobby convo jojo was grilling nisqy hard 💀
The only thing he could play is apparent just Sylas, and still he inted with Sylas
Yea that dragon fight when nisqy went for jojo was really funny
Jojo really knows how to get into other people's skin 😂 Dude spammed pregame chat with Nisqy's champ pool to annoy tf out of him 😂 Nisqy easily gets tilted and is probably the reason why he hard-forced that Sylas pick on Game 2 because Jojo taunted him so much.
Yeah, the dragon fight game 2 was the moment I came to the conclusion he was mega tilted. Mind you I just saw highlights so I can't criticize full performance but I feel the tilt in his play was pretty obvious...
Dont even care how NA performs the rest of worlds, we got our dub over EU. Congrats to EG, they played very well and surprised a lot of people
Congrats to them as well, we should've never sent MAD imo, by playoffs XL looked way stronger, also nice McD Ayaka
I mean I guess? Its our 4th seed who didnt win a single BO5 ahahah relax
Also, I genuinely dont think we are very far apart from NA right now (im from EU)
Like historically we are considerably better but teams this year have just looked terrible
I still hold out some hopium for G2 showing up strong internationally and maybe some never before seen Rogue clutch, but I would not be surprised at all if C9 finished ahead of every EU team
@@zrf4944 ever since fnc got reverse swept and g2 got crushed in 2020 the west just looked dogshit
I think c9 is the strongest of the 6 teams. EU was at his peak when Perkz was the adc for G2. Since last year EU has regressed to an NA level I’d say. Hopefully both regions can make some noise at worlds.
@@matthewminogue3276 2020 could've been great if FNC 3-0'd TES but mid jg top diff
Imagine being basically a Draven OTP and getting stomped in lane, luckily this will be last year in MADlions for Elyoya, he deserves so much more
hands-down. Armut's gotta go, unforgiven has always been average. Even kaiser has fallen off lately, it was either nisqy stepping up or Elyoya playing out of his mind vs 9 players (already unlikely for even the best in the world) (and nisqy, did not step up. thats for sure)
Imagine being a draven otp. Terrible champ that either cheeses you early or is useless
tbh you need to play for the draven lane, bad lions were drafting some awful garbage, and then not playing for the draven at all, what even was the point of them putting him on draven to begin with, if they're not gonna spend any amount of mid/jg pressure bottlane, might as well have gone for scaling adcs
@@hehexd5317 Yeah if only unforgiven was able to play more than 2 champs. Game 1 they went for the Draven First pick instead of cait, then game 2 funniest one, B3 with no adcs picked or banned whatsoever locks on Draven.
@@the350studios4 it's not like there's a much different skillset needed to play the different adcs, especially not the scaling ones. i don't think it was a champion pool issue, probably just ego gap
Am I the only one NOT that surprised that EG won in the fashion they did? MAD didn't win a single BO5 before worlds and EG looked solid the entire year.
Neither was I, it's elyoya vs his own team and an enemy team so i'm not surprised
Hum, tbh Mad should have done much better, but yeah, a 3-0 stomp isn't very representative of both teams potential, but yeah, I'm not that surprised EG won !
Okay but I'm trying to figure out what the term he's referring to at 19:30.
MAD has 2 major huge weaknesses. First is Armut, the second is their trash tier mental fortitude. Like you could see they stopped playing after EG stole their baron with smite. Then they just ran down 2 full games on auto-pilot mode after that.
This means they always qualify to play in worlds play-ins when they don't have to win any BO5. They get a full day of rest and mental preparation between games. But if you force them to play 3 or more games in a row, the moment they make their first huge tilting misplay, it's over.
MAD drafts were awful even in game 3. Shameful that a team in play ins sucks so bad at draft. The coach should be held accountable. Lost the games before they even began
Thing is most of the times the coach is not at fault players pick whatever they want, the coach just suggests good picks
@@MauroJesus100 there's just not proof for that look at tsm and tl when tl lost their coach their drafting changed and tsm has the same terrible drafting after their entire roster changed multiple times
@@jazzyjefffogel or look at bjergs tam vs bjergs tl squads both teams play and draft veryy simlilarly if not identically
@@nagames56 but tl had Jenson right before and they are the same player but bjerg has more champs
Yes, but tbh how do you draft with a fcking otp gnar-atrox? XD And he even plays bad with his otps...
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
NA > EU ?
Not EU's year, war, energy prices, nature catastrophies, famine and getting 3-0 by na
I think getting 3/0 by NA is the worst part
Imagine flaming a region only to get 3-0'd by it in poetic fashion 😂
A title that doesn’t give away who wins?? I like it
Elyoya was the only playing apparently.
As an EG fanboy this was a blast to watch live on stream.
EG just stomping mad even though they have a substitute ADC from academy.
Mad is looking horrendous this year
I really want to see EG succeed but I know they are in for a rough awakening in groups
Did you start playing recently? Genuine question, I've wondered how EG gets fans and I figured it might be the same way I became a C9 fan, bc I started watching when they joined LCS around S3 when they just pubstomped every split. I don't have any strong biases against their team, I just think it's frustrating watching them because their ceiling is high, but they rarely play at that level. Not that it's just them, I have problems with a lot of NA teams, but that specifically is why I don't like watching them.
@@slash_Mute I have been watching since about season 4. I like EGs players a whole lot because they have personalities and make the scene better as a whole with their drama
@@root_test9493 ah I see that makes sense. Thank you for answering in earnest, I appreciate it
@@slash_Mute eg definitely gets fans because of the banter the players have, inspired and jojo in particular, but vulcan chimes in as well, from time to time, and they're a pretty decent team, i also like that they're trying to develop actual NA players, so that's cool too (big ups to peter dunn), it really goes against the "there's no NA talent" narrative, it just shows that orgs are lazy and either go for washed up pros (last year's CLG), or just buy big names from other regions, it's way more interesting when it's actual NA vs EU instead of EU lite vs EU (although EG did end up being just 2 NA players in the end, but that can't be helped with danny and the whole mental breakdown thing)
Hey LS, It's everyone.
what was the TOS word at the end?
Drututt said skinhead when describing thugs back home and LS couldn't remember if it was tos or not
@@root_test9493 ah thx
i feel bad for Elyoya, he's too good to play with those clowns.
What are these huge draft gaps though? You should think that after over 12 years of competitive gaming this game has seen, coaches and teams would focus more on drafts, when the actual pure skill gap between players shrinks from year to year.
LS often says the pro skill stagnated that's probably because how frequently riot decides to change things up. You basically have to throw whatever u practiced in one patch and learn something entirely new again. Compare this to scbw where pros reached insane levels
@@pramitpratimdas8198 Its natural for pro level skill to start stagnating the longer any given game is played, that's why you need to look for other ways to gain an edge over your opponent (new strategies like LS tried to implement them or outdrafting your opponents). Thats what confuses me the most. A good draft can easily win games alone or at least force more favourable outcomes in the long run. It's also the easiest thing to prepare for with decent analysts and coaches. Pure game skill is hard to acquire, but you can gain knowledge and insight pretty consistently when you start to recognize patterns.
@@faselfasel2864 again just look at scbw. The game lasted over a decade long despite getting practically any patches yet people were innovating.
It's just that armut can legit only play 1 champ and on the rest he's a bot.
That's not true. His ornn was decent besides nisqy got hard gapped 3 games.
@@jacobskrong6781 don't get me wrong im an eu fan, but just look at the games he doesn't play gnar. It's just so much worse compared to the games he does get to play gnar. Also the third game nisqy was actually winning, until armut hard lost top and seju could be perma mid.
Hey man don’t make fun of his Gnar ocean with all the skins he can play!
Armor def could’ve played a lot better but that was not the only problem
What do you mean he can only play Gnar? He can also play Dino Gnar, Gentleman Gnar, El León Gnar, Super Galaxy Gnar, Astronaut Gnar and Elderwood Gnar.
Lmao, I looked to see this video an hour ago and now you post it. Well I'm still awake soo nice.
EG is a solid team actually. Impact is impact, Inspired is top 5 western JG, jojo is a scrappy skilled rookie, kaori stepping up as a darkhorse academy call-up, vulcan is the best NA support at worlds, probably top 5 in the west too.
For sure, rn the best western teams without any ranking are G2 RGE FNC C9 EG
C9 will shit on FNC and are the best team from the west. Mark my words.
@@matthewminogue3276 can't say anything till the games happen
@@EmenussGOamazing 100thiefs is better than EG and better than fnc
@@bengar9580 Pushing it. The classic NA move, stop overhyping your teams because you beat bad lions.
Game 2 was one if the biggest draft difs I've ever seen, lol
I like LS but honestly even in this video in some of the most important moments in the series he is not even looking at the game, and talking about some random stuff or arguing with chat
He does that in a lot of Western games.
It's just crazy how good Impact has been for so many years. Obviously NA is a much weaker region compared to the other 3 but hes been dominant for so long.
4:30 I will never let this man live this down 😊😊😊
incredible stuff from the Malevolent Superdoted
I'm from eu, it's still fuckin amazing how bad they got annihilated
Never ever count impact out.
Did they ban out the Gnarmut?
yep, they somehow managed to ban out all of his champs (dino gnar, elderwood gnar etc.)
Congratz NA ! GG.
Here To Leach Some Of That Juicy LS Energy
When I watched these games live, the first game, if they picked jarvan over vi, the combo with rumble would have been sick and vi wouldn't have the issue of going in and just doing nothing vs tk, I guess their coach doesn't think of it, if you have vi rumble 4/5, you should pick jarvan rumble, that combo is sick
it’s “ay”- trox, not “ah”-trox. Rhaast even says it. Sure it’s “rah”ast not “ray”ast, but the voice lines say “ay”trox.
Por favor, aatrox just wants to be loved :(
wow drututt sounds like he has a nice wife what a lucky man.
That end segment lmao
Lol I thought I was the only one that noticed I think ls not happy they banned the n word xD
@@ayyjent12 yeah that was a very odd thing to bring it. It's something the US doesn't say etc.
So no one is going to talk about Kaiser single handedly ended game 3 by stepping into cresendum
Man it feels so good to watch MAD lose depsite the fact that EG probably wont do much better in their group. The fanboys where getting out of hand when Nisqy joined.
Hope unforgiven and Elyoya finds better teammates, Elyoya looks tilted and broken at this point x3
MAD were stomping regular season and Nisqy deservingly got mvp
They just suck at bo5s
The complete opposite of last years mad
Yeah, the fanboys were pretty insufferable and I’m glad they got silenced.
Yeah abd nisqy basically played so good on the team. They look disjointed. And tilted, draft gappin themselves. But i asume you are a loser big nose nemesis fanboy ?
Undorgiven got gapped by an academy player. Elyoya and that’s it
Hard being a jungle when you have weak laners. It's a season of hell for Elyoya every year ever since Humanoid left. Well, now that I think about it, Humanoid probably knew that his team was a sinking ship so he left lol.
Lol statement at the beginning from a Ninja tweet😂😂
I wonder if Hashinshin is still crying about Aatrox being weak?
why is he only uploading EU teams? wtf
How do you ever look at the teams in game 3 and say that MAD somehow won draft? MAD's draft can hardly even play the game against EGs 🤔
It’s my first time watching an LS video, does he actually just never comment on the game outside of draft? Why upload this??
I mean he used to, but these days he just reacts and stay silent for the most part.
there’s not much to say about this series tbf
I really doubt it that Armut wil be with MAD next season. I really hope he is not with them. If you can only play Gnar and don't get Gnar... Just play Ornn, Or Sion or any tank
I think most of their roster is gonna get nuked. Prob Elyoya and Kaiser are the only safe ones.
@@Kelxo-o7 Kaiser had a terrible tournament tho
They just signed armut for 2 more years
@@pramitpratimdas8198 welp....
Why does he pronounce Aatrox like that
i love when he says this games is so over lol it was indeed
MAD could've give us 5 games but lost too hard in allchat lmao
That Baron steal LMFAO!!!
I don't know why LS invites Drututt on. He makes the stream so unwatchable.
Why does everyone have so much high hope for MAD anyway? Like they don't even deserve that 4 seed spot when they literally lost every BO5 in LEC and somehow people believe they can beat EG in a BO5.
EU arrogance
Because EU fans keep repeating that ERL teams would be top 3 in LCS
Because Stupidity from a lot of EU fans who think that EU is that much of a step above NA and because G2 beat EG 6x and Fnatic crushed them that means MAD were gonna smash them.
Most sane EU fans knew this was not gonna be a MAD stomp.
@@PeoplePleaser578 do you really think that eu isnt a step ahead of NA just because they won a single best of 5 in what, 3 years? That must mean that LCK isnt a step ahead of EU....
You won against us, be happy about it as long as you can but dont start to be delusional
@@leeccilee7605 I’m from EU - I’m just not a fanboy that thinks there is that much of a difference between 0-6 and 2-4. Or there is some gold in skill between NA and EU. There isn’t - Everyone is still losing, just because G2 made top 8 in worlds doesn’t mean the rest of EU is actually good. The only delusional ones is anyone who thinks that G2 finishing top 8 means the entirety of EU is a step above NA. (Also it’s 8 years - NA hasn’t won a Bo5 in 8 years. They haven’t faced each other in a Bo5 since 2019).
No there is an actual Gap between LCK/LPL and LEC. Fnatic and G2 are the only teams to have beaten a real LCK/LPL seed. Especially in Bo5. There is a clear defined gap between LCK/LPL and LEC.
Exit Urgently
Unforgiven draven is so clean tho
i just noticed you pronounce Aatrox as ... AH-trox .... have I been doing it wrong my whole life ?
isnt it fckn stupid that draft is 90% of the win con?
It definitely isn’t, if you look at t1 games in spring for example their drafts were shit and they still dominated the LCK. It’s just that LS put a ton of emphasis on the drafts because they do play an important role. It’s literally the job of pro players to try to win so the fact that they don’t bother to learn the meta and get outdrafted so badly very often just triggers him a ton
Out of these games you can clearly see the 2nd game being the 90% win-con but most games are more balanced.
Eu got absolutely dismantled
1:51 its for the all purple sorcery tree LOL!
coach btw
His point is that gathering storm is better, hence him saying "this game doesn't end before 30 mins."
Coach btw
embarrassing.
MAD should get LS as head coach so he can draft for them. MAD need to get Viteo mid and Rekless ADC. Maybe keep Nisqy but i feel like Elyoya can be a leader and they can get a playmaker instead.
not gonna replace the glaring issue that is the useless toplaner with the huge champion ocean of 2 champions (gnar/wu)? also, vetheo is highly overrated, he's good on 2-3 champs (lb/akali/sylas), everything else he's mediocre on
@@hehexd5317 so what? Look at LNG all Doinb played is Akali and Renekton. All Ale played was Fiora. In fact most LPL top laners only know hot to play Jax and Fiora and are useless in anything else. There is nothing wrong with having a champ pool of 3 or 4 champs and especially if u can perform well in those.
@@saibadam armut has a champion pool of about 2 champions, and he doesn't perform much better than the average pro as far as those champs go
@@hehexd5317 yeah this year he was meh sometimes did some things nothing big but in the past he was the main reason why the even won LEC
Mad was doing alright the first game and then got tilted the next two 😂
MAD doesnt count as an EU team copium :)
yo impact carried the fuck out of this series
Yo he took scorch on rumble that was funny
Gwen didnt land a single fully stacked q. First q was only 2 or 3 stacks. the 2nd q was fully stacked but she died before all the snips landed.
Nisquy is good but not good enough to carry mad lions Elyoya had some good and bad moments but mostly good
8:20 impact misses everything and almost one shots vi anyway
Aattrox is balanced.
I am from EU . EG was better then MAD
The system is fucking bad how we send teams to worlds . Mad was not our 4th seed . The Gauntlet is needed . G2 2018 was a gauntlet team that beat RNG and went to semis . Xcel and Misfits played better then MAD in play-off for those teams to not have a chance to play for the spot is madness . XL looked fucking leagues above MAD . You can't just have a good split of B01 where you get a few lucky wins and just fucking ignore play-off lose 6 games and make it to worlds . We would not get G2 2019 without the gauntlet cuz Caps would not join a team that did not make worlds . The Gauntlet was so important and we have shity points and spots on random b01. VIT had a bad streak at the end eliminated Mad has a super bad streak in the most important part of the season auto-qualified. Fuck that system . At make it a rule if you don't win a b05 play another with the teams that lost to . We can at least see who sucks the most.
Wow Kaori, u valid
Why did they pick sylas two games in a row without noticing that he's useless is beyond me
Nisqy's ego
Nisqy's champion pool and probably his performance in scrims
Nisqys champion pool essentially.
If he picked Twisted Fate he would somehow look worse
First pick, I understand, but the second game was just Nisqy taking Jojo's bait into saying his Sylas sucks. Could've just tuned that out but boy Nisqy isn't the most reasonable person (as seen in his moments with Upset always saying his IQ is very low lmao).
Now I think SGB can do better against EG HAHAHA.
eh.... MAD and Bo5s... 😅 the iconic duo of this year.
LS MADLING XD
inspired muy bueno
I'm just glad EG won so this smug EU commenter with LS is sad :)
ah yes the all pro
"NA is so bad" and then proceeds to lose to NA kekw
ls joined by stereotypical EUW player lulw
for me Jojo is better than Nisqy but Nisqy is more consistance than Jojo
Why the fuck is everyone playing maokai jungle when he's just better top
Armut 6th man of EG KEKW
As an euw supporter, i'm glad EG won. I refuse to cheer for a team who didnt won a single bo5 during season when LNG won 4 and aren't there. The presence of MAD at world is a shame
don't remind me about LNG not making it, i was so hyped to watch them overaggress on different teams, they were such a fun team to watch
EU lost to Bronzil and NA? Damn nice region lllllllll
You lost to hentai region. Fairplay though, EG are way better than MAD
@@EmenussGOamazing Who is you? I was just talking about the EU. You don't know what region i'm from (hint im not NA) you EU dog.
So sad... XL wouod have been so much more fun to watch I think
What American insult is he talking about
Dude blames America for banning the n word
Lol wtf
no1 outside of america cares brotherman
@@hehexd5317 where r u from?
LS 90% of stream getting baited by chat to fix audio issues. 10% of time watching the game.
The EU copium stream.
LS sounding like biden at the start of first draft
Now that's my president
@@greensabr200 🤨
Reality check for EU
Not really - It doesn’t mean anything. It means EG are better than MAD which isn’t really surprising.
NA teams are more flexible this than EU teams but it’s not a “reality check”.
@@PeoplePleaser578 It's a reality check to stop the arrogance & believing most of their teams could smash NA just because G2 perform well, 85% of pickems expected a MAD win so they were the favorites.
@@Aespyn the NA team being hard carried by an EU jungler you mean? Yeah jojo played well too but let’s be real it was mostly an inspired gap almost all the plays they went for early wouldn’t work if inspired didn’t Smurf it
@@Aespyn Not really - If a team is 7-0 against teams from EU, you are gonna assume that region is better. Especially as NA has not beaten EU in a Bo5 since 2015 C9 and even then it was UOL who were a challenger team at the time.
At worlds NA has never beaten EU in a best of 5 - That is why people expected MAD to win. Which is not an unreasonable expectation. It’s not a reality check at all - It’s 1 Bo5 in 10 years, it’s a reality check when it happens consistently.
@@pete5516 MAD were individually gapped in every role, that's not an inspired diff when Elyoya is the only one from MAD who looked like he wanted to win.
EU fans should stop saying Mad lion didn't win a single BO5 in LEC to get to world as a reason for NA shouldn't celebrate. Because deep down, EU fans know they are so ready to use the same point to BM NA fans if EG lose. Stop this double standard shit and just let NA fan have their moment. EG played well and Mad Lion didn't. End of discussion.
I mean they're not wrong. MAD only qualified for worlds because of the situation with the LCL and Russia. If it wasn't for that they wouldn't even BE there because EU would've only had three seeds, which would've been G2, Rogue and Fnatic.
@@riven4121 I understand the circumstance completely, but is that a reason to not let ppl have their moment of celebrations in a major event. NA have been roasted by EU fans for years. Let NA fans have their moment. EG have disadvantage too coming to world. Danny, their main adc is not playing. Let the rest of "true" EU teams proof EU > NA instead of making excuse like mad lion don't belong here, because this just make EU looks weak and can't stand to lose.
@@jeremy0115 personally, us an eu fan, i'm actually happy that the bad lions got clapped, the reasoning behind the happiness is that they didn't win a single bo5, that doesn't really discredit EG or their win over them, i personally also like it because some of the more delusional fans keep talking about how lastralis or bds would be the best team in the LCS, there's this weird narrative about dogshit teams being good or something, "muh kcorp would beat bottom tier LEC teams" or "muh bds would be the 1st team in the LCS", it's really cringe
AtroX
Gathering Storm >>> Scorch
The other dude is this video always so annoying when he in LS streams
First 🤓
2nd
armut is so bad
4th