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I watched another RUclipsr review this same Inverter and the Inverter couldn't handle 2000 watts. The voltage drop went below-rated capacity and the inverter started complaining.I commented thats usually a battery problem, not the inverter. Your review of the TopBull passed with flying colors.
The cables could be corrected easily enough, but the soldered in fuses steered me clear of this one. When will these co's ever realize that in the field, that becomes almost impossible for the average person to deal with? A real shame as it looks like a good unit/value otherwise.Thanks.
I have a similar inverter, and it is fused the same way. It is a little inconvenient to reach them however, they are not soldered in, they sit in a blade fuse holder. I agree that it’s relatively simple to Increase the size of the external wiring, however internally it’s another matter. I always wonder how they handle the high amps on the inside of the unit.
I have 1/0 cables going to my 2000 W Renogy inverter. It runs fantastic. Those junk cables would be going into my bin and used for something with a lot less current draw. 165A is too much for those little cables and I don’t like parallel cables anyway. What are you gonna do if one fails. Fire. Your cables are 130°F and it’s not even hot summer weather, no switch, no fuse and no corrosion on the terminals yet.
Nice to know there are Chinese inverters that delivers what it advertises! I have an older inverter (Chinese) rated at 1000W and it overloads at something less than 750W. Enthusiastically labelled I suspect. Many of us want to run power tools, pumps, vacs etc from an inverter. Now start current normally on these inductive loads can be 3 to 6 times the rated power of the motor, so it may be an idea to try a range of motor based appliances on any future inverter tests. For this one, for example, I'd try a motor of around 350W and another around 700W and see if it can start and run them...I know, a bit of a tall ask, but if its possible it would provide additional info for prospective buyers.
It depends on what the temperature rating of the cable is. At 125F, they are probably well inside their specs. There will be a voltage drop however, so worth measuring the drop across each lead at that current. I bet these cables will show a relatively high voltage drop meaning the inverter will drop out long before the battery is actually completely discharged.
Yes @BenMitro is correct, technically they can handle the current because of the 200c temp rating of the silicone jacket, and yes there will be more voltage drop. I'm just not a big fan of my wires getting this hot. I like things to run cool, and efficient. My rule is if it's too hot for me to touch, I'm not happy with it. That's just my 2 cents :)
I noticed they were using a similar cable setup on the inside but were they larger guage? You can change the external cables but in the internal ones are also insufficient, that's a problem!
@@BradCagle must have been cuz his results seemed pretty odd. I have a TopBull MPPT controller laying around I got a while back and I haven't even taken it out of the box yet, but it looks pretty descent.
These are brought to you by the con-dupes. A Scammo-worthy Aka Ecoworthy spare parts bin. HORRIBLE stability. That 2000 has a pair of 750 watt transformers that are bucked so FAIL POINT #1. Deliberately incapable cables included to restrict your higher draws by eating your battery with wire resistance heat! FAIL POINT #2 Using 8awgx2 is foolish, keep a fire extinguisher near by. I refused to release a video on a sample review on the 3000 watt with a pair of 6 awg in the box as a favor NOT to burn homes down! I used single 1/0 gauge on it, It can handle 2700 continuous but buzzed and faulted. Under 1000 watt it may run for years, over that I give it months. FAIL POINT #3
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DISCLAIMER: These videos are documenting my own projects, and experiences. These projects, and activities can be dangerous. Do not try any of this at home, doing so will be at your own risk. For entertainment purposes only.
I watched another RUclipsr review this same Inverter and the Inverter couldn't handle 2000 watts. The voltage drop went below-rated capacity and the inverter started complaining.I commented thats usually a battery problem, not the inverter. Your review of the TopBull passed with flying colors.
Yes, I saw his too. Not sure what's going on there, but I was curious what the DC voltage was looking like during the problem. Thanks!
The cables could be corrected easily enough, but the soldered in fuses steered me clear of this one. When will these co's ever realize that in the field, that becomes almost impossible for the average person to deal with? A real shame as it looks like a good unit/value otherwise.Thanks.
I have a similar inverter, and it is fused the same way. It is a little inconvenient to reach them however, they are not soldered in, they sit in a blade fuse holder.
I agree that it’s relatively simple to Increase the size of the external wiring, however internally it’s another matter. I always wonder how they handle the high amps on the inside of the unit.
I have 1/0 cables going to my 2000 W Renogy inverter. It runs fantastic. Those junk cables would be going into my bin and used for something with a lot less current draw. 165A is too much for those little cables and I don’t like parallel cables anyway. What are you gonna do if one fails. Fire. Your cables are 130°F and it’s not even hot summer weather, no switch, no fuse and no corrosion on the terminals yet.
Nice to know there are Chinese inverters that delivers what it advertises!
I have an older inverter (Chinese) rated at 1000W and it overloads at something less than 750W. Enthusiastically labelled I suspect.
Many of us want to run power tools, pumps, vacs etc from an inverter. Now start current normally on these inductive loads can be 3 to 6 times the rated power of the motor, so it may be an idea to try a range of motor based appliances on any future inverter tests. For this one, for example, I'd try a motor of around 350W and another around 700W and see if it can start and run them...I know, a bit of a tall ask, but if its possible it would provide additional info for prospective buyers.
Great suggestions as always, Ben. Thanks!
Those cables are way too small for 167 Amps of current.
It depends on what the temperature rating of the cable is. At 125F, they are probably well inside their specs. There will be a voltage drop however, so worth measuring the drop across each lead at that current. I bet these cables will show a relatively high voltage drop meaning the inverter will drop out long before the battery is actually completely discharged.
Yes @BenMitro is correct, technically they can handle the current because of the 200c temp rating of the silicone jacket, and yes there will be more voltage drop. I'm just not a big fan of my wires getting this hot. I like things to run cool, and efficient. My rule is if it's too hot for me to touch, I'm not happy with it. That's just my 2 cents :)
@@BradCagleThat 2c is worth a lot more than face value!
Appreciate the stress testing!
You're welcome
I noticed they were using a similar cable setup on the inside but were they larger guage? You can change the external cables but in the internal ones are also insufficient, that's a problem!
Thanks for sharing
You're welcome!
The cables supplying the inverter are WAY too small and what is the battery specs?
no dijiste si lo recomiendas o no!!
Interesting... @offgridbasement just did this same inverter and he had all kinds of problems with it.
Yeah, that's weird. Wonder if his is defective?
@@BradCagle must have been cuz his results seemed pretty odd. I have a TopBull MPPT controller laying around I got a while back and I haven't even taken it out of the box yet, but it looks pretty descent.
how do I get this inverter pls?
💯 P r o m o S M
These are brought to you by the con-dupes. A Scammo-worthy Aka Ecoworthy spare parts bin. HORRIBLE stability. That 2000 has a pair of 750 watt transformers that are bucked so FAIL POINT #1. Deliberately incapable cables included to restrict your higher draws by eating your battery with wire resistance heat! FAIL POINT #2 Using 8awgx2 is foolish, keep a fire extinguisher near by. I refused to release a video on a sample review on the 3000 watt with a pair of 6 awg in the box as a favor NOT to burn homes down! I used single 1/0 gauge on it, It can handle 2700 continuous but buzzed and faulted. Under 1000 watt it may run for years, over that I give it months. FAIL POINT #3
Yikes 😬 thanks for the info John