Wow . Not many people have the smarts and determination to recover something as unusual as this, Sam. Your post-op of what had to be repaired was likewise pure genius ! Good luck with all of the repair work ! 👍👍👍🏆🔧🔧🔧
Yikes! That had to be a wild ride with a high pucker factor when that happened. Especially on the downhill side. Good to see it wasn't a worse outcome.
I sent this to my cousin and he says this is a relatively old combine but in amazing shape! It must have spent its life in a barn :) He was interested in how the hill climber combines were setup and found this very interesting. Thanks for the video and we hope it all worked out for you.😀
Holy crap! That could have been so much worse including a serious injury. Very nice save. Liked and subscribed and was brought here by Matt at Diesel Creek.
Your stick and bucket cylinders have more leverage than the boom. Use all the boom then go to the stick or bucket cylinders. Woops you just did it, nice! Keeping the boom as low as possible helps if you shorten the chain. Your fortunate to have that 240.
Annnnd... we're damn lucky the rear end didn't swing around and kill somebody and cause ANOTHER disaster because we didn't anchor the rear end B4 we lift the front. Don't mean to be so critical, but more than a few men have been killed in these kinds of situations. Grateful no one was injured and got er recovered 🙏🏼🙏🏼👍👍😊😊
Dejavu! Had the same thing happen to a 6600 about 45 years ago. Except the wheel frame broke half-off right around the wheel-bolts section. The wheel collapsed under the frame so held the machine off the ground so absolutely nothing else was damaged except the wheel itself. And, well, except the teenage operator who needed a new pair of underwater and some intense psychological counseling, like "Shake it off boy, you could have been under that thing with it on top of you." And, well, I told him it wasn't his fault, which wasn't exactly true, but I was weak and he was crying and shaking and trembling all over and establishment of responsibility would carry no weight with the insurance company anyway. And he was a better operator for the rest of the season. The Cause: It was wheat harvest and with a fully loaded grain bin he went over a terrace too fast at an angle where there was a significant slope backside of the terrace. And to make it all worse a dryed up mud hole, but was still soft right where the tire landed. I dismounted the tire, massively heated around the wheel hole and pounded it back into position and welded it with nickel rods. Lasted the rest of the year and as a shop table to this day. I do think there was a foundry flaw in casting the wheel because right where it broke, (and where I welded), there were some tiny air bubbles in the metal. I eventually got into the oil business where there is always someone to blame for a mistake who might coldcock you, but probably won't cry. (One of the advantages of NOT being an independent businessman.) Good Luck, my friend.
What happened to the days when John Deere was the best you could get? The company was easy to work with, and don't even get me started about the right to repair. Either you take antique sports car, good care of your equipment or it's super low hour. Hell, the paint isn't even worn on the snouts.
Glad everyone is okay . Working around heavy machinery on a slop is never good. But you guys did a great job. Equipment can be fixed or replaced, but human life can't be. Great job guys
Happened to me twice on my 7700 when I had floaters on it. Once right side once left. The second time all I said was catch on fire catch on fire but no luck. Now I have 24's and no more problems. Be safe out there we need you.
Who ever the operator is, two rules. . Never do end rows with a full load. Never turn on a downhill grade with a full load. I'm really happy that this unit didn't completely land on it's side or worse. I could see from the way the rear wheels were turned, the operator was doing a sharp turn with an obviously full load into a fairly steep grade down. That was a beautiful recovery you guys made. Hopefully with some new parts and some wrench and hammering time she'll be as good as new again, soon. I'm sorry it happened to you, but in every mistake, we learn a lesson. Always off load into a cart when your near full or full before taking any kind of turn on steep grade. I'm just thankful no one was hurt and this happened so close to your shop. Again, great recovery guys, very impressed. God Bless y'all.
I hope you get on to John Deere and shame them into replacing that diabolical casting! Whether or not it's under warrantee - if I'd made it - I'd do my damnest to stop anyone finding out. ZK MasterTech channel has quite a few more axles from Mr Deere that have given up the ghost rather too early for my liking - the flipping price of them, the parts should be guaranteed for life.
The last good combine deere made. The new ones are all computers and lots of wiring. Too complicated for just taking corn off the cob and putting it in a box behind the operator! Make stuff simple!
While the old school farmers are out in the field combining, the high tech are still figuring out the monitors and why is that sensor not working right! Old school, still works!
It was one of the first harvesters i operated ... and im close to 60 now ... as an analogue machine, once you learnt its quirks and understood how temperature, humidity and grain moisture interact with the machine and how it thrashes, it was easy enough to get clean grain in the box, chaff out the back (with hardly any grain loss) ... and watch the hours tick by
I had no ideas that could happen on a combine I'll tell you what that was this has been an interesting video watching how you guys recovered it kudos to you and your dad and your brothers
In my last video I used the word dagnabbit. After watching this video I didn't really have a true dagnabbit. On a side note that is the cleanest 6620 I have ever seen. I wish you well with the repair and putting that machine back in service 🙏
Same thing happened to me twenty years ago going down the road with a load on a standard 6620. The axle had been cracked for a while when it broke. Insurance rebuilt that entire side from the damage. Ran the combine another 16 seasons after the repair.
The thought process , the men helping to get the combine to a level spot , it shows patience & talent , being calm !! Amazing work that will have to be done ! Stay strong , continue on & best of luck getting it all back to working order , stay safe everyone !!!
at 16200lbs according to google I am surprised you are have the difficulty you are lifting it, now I dont know how much the front part weighs but I assume about 2k or 4k. I havent used excavators but I drive semis and I feel they could pick up a semi that is about 12k at the front 34k middle and 34k rear trailer pretty easy.
I agree with you- but there were a couple factors making it difficult. The way the machine was leaning on that hill we were lifting the majority of its weight at first. We also were not able to shovel all of the corn out of the bin so still a couple thousand pounds there. The hoe can’t lift too much at that high of a boom angle as the cylinders lose advantage. Someone said we should have driven the tracks up on logs to improve the geometry that was a good idea.
Man that was and is a great looking 6620. I’ve got one myself. It’s been completely gone through. Runs like a champ. After looking at yours, mine needs a wax job! Ha!
Good assessment at the end. That's pretty much how it goes. Ya, for curiosity's sake you can usually tell where the old cracks were and the fresh break happened by discoloration. Not all that useful except maybe to look there at the other side, if it is in a visible area. There are spray kits than can help detect cracks, but I dunno if you wanna get carried away like that or not.
Already been said and dont mean to sound .... But.... : WHO THE HELL GOES ON THE STEEPEST PITCH POSSIBLE WITH 10 TONS IN THE HOPPER and then turns it sharp...??? 😳😳🙄🙄🙄 It's NOT EASY to break a combine axle people!! Hope we learned... WE UNLOAD WHEN WE'RE FULL ON LEVEL GROUND!!
Your doing just great! You seem to have everything in control & know what your doing. If the warranty is no longer in force is it going to be feasible to repair or is it a total loss & all its good for is to part it out?
In Norway our machinary insurance normally covers damages like this, and I would suppose that it is something like thag in your machinary insurance too.
Cool video. I was a John Deere tech in SW Nebraska for 21 years and never saw or hauled a sidehill combine. Interesting.... I have jacked up several regular machines with broken final drive axles. Not fun!!
Amazing how calm everyone seemed. I know stuff happens on the farm and in real life, but that looked catastrophic. Glad for your explanation narrative, I calmed down after understanding the various issues. Many thanks! Stay well, stay safe!
Catastrophic is when there is some sort of electrical issue, especially one that requires JD to plug a computer in. This is just a broken piece of metal. might cost a lot but most anyone can do the repair. When its a computer related issue, they tend to cost a lot more, take longer and often don't get resolved the first few times.
Русские бы это всё в два раза быстрее разобрали ,собрали ,улучшили ,выкинули бы половину ненужных запчастей и даже экскаватором не пользовались ,ну а пакистанцы бы вообще из одного комбайна собрали бы два комбайна и один маленький трактор :)
i wouldnt be anywhere near the front of that ccombine while lifting lol. cant believe so much weight is designed to be on that fairly small casting, it seems poorly designed seems like it should be twice that thick
Suggest . Why do you have that golf cart sitting in the way. all of the places to park that golf cart. I guess so those people do not have to walk as far but parking in the golf cart out of the side of the camera might help a bit with your production.
You can't do that without a certified expensive john deer tech on site, hes booked for 3 months and you have to pay for him to come first class mind you.
Suggestions still can’t see what you were doing because of the golf cart being in the way is there a reason why the golf cart is sitting in the middle of the view of your construction . Really no reason why the golf cart hast to be there….
Check out the comeback video here- 6620 Sidehill Combine is Back!!
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Well done gentleman. A fine example of the entrepreneurship of the American Farmer! Im looking forward to watching the repairs
Wow . Not many people have the smarts and determination to recover something as
unusual as this, Sam. Your post-op of what had to be repaired was likewise pure
genius ! Good luck with all of the repair work ! 👍👍👍🏆🔧🔧🔧
Thanks it is back up and running now!
did they ever fix this combine? like see video on fixing this combine.
Yikes! That had to be a wild ride with a high pucker factor when that happened. Especially on the downhill side. Good to see it wasn't a worse outcome.
For sure! He says he wasn't scared.... i think the cab would have stunk if it happened to me!
Nice teamwork there. I had to recheck when these units were built, as that thing has been so well looked after.
I sent this to my cousin and he says this is a relatively old combine but in amazing shape! It must have spent its life in a barn :) He was interested in how the hill climber combines were setup and found this very interesting.
Thanks for the video and we hope it all worked out for you.😀
Could have been a lot worse. You guys were patient and did an nice job getting it down to the shop. Nicely done.
Holy crap! That could have been so much worse including a serious injury. Very nice save. Liked and subscribed and was brought here by Matt at Diesel Creek.
Could have been worse.No one got hurt ,the combine will need some tlc but this is the joys of machinery best wishes from Ireland 👍👍
Just wow...the lord had his hand on that unit..😀😀😀😀😀
That was fun watching!
Your stick and bucket cylinders have more leverage than the boom. Use all the boom then go to the stick or bucket cylinders. Woops you just did it, nice! Keeping the boom as low as possible helps if you shorten the chain. Your fortunate to have that 240.
Yes it could have been worse. We run a 6620 Sidehill also. This is kind of scary. There is alot of stress on those parts on these hillsides.
Keep greasing those trunnions!! but this one was well greased so evidently there isn't much you can do except keep her light and be ginger.
John Deere...the quality is in line with Bobcat.
23:00 It's ok. Don't actually point the camera at the failure point. Lets look at all the ancillary damage...
Those final drives were a known issue. Broke a few on std 6620's in muddy conditions.
I would love the challenge to fix that
Annnnd... we're damn lucky the rear end didn't swing around and kill somebody and cause ANOTHER disaster because we didn't anchor the rear end B4 we lift the front. Don't mean to be so critical, but more than a few men have been killed in these kinds of situations. Grateful no one was injured and got er recovered 🙏🏼🙏🏼👍👍😊😊
good luck & best wishes ...
Dejavu! Had the same thing happen to a 6600 about 45 years ago. Except the wheel frame broke half-off right around the wheel-bolts section. The wheel collapsed under the frame so held the machine off the ground so absolutely nothing else was damaged except the wheel itself. And, well, except the teenage operator who needed a new pair of underwater and some intense psychological counseling, like "Shake it off boy, you could have been under that thing with it on top of you." And, well, I told him it wasn't his fault, which wasn't exactly true, but I was weak and he was crying and shaking and trembling all over and establishment of responsibility would carry no weight with the insurance company anyway. And he was a better operator for the rest of the season.
The Cause: It was wheat harvest and with a fully loaded grain bin he went over a terrace too fast at an angle where there was a significant slope backside of the terrace. And to make it all worse a dryed up mud hole, but was still soft right where the tire landed.
I dismounted the tire, massively heated around the wheel hole and pounded it back into position and welded it with nickel rods. Lasted the rest of the year and as a shop table to this day.
I do think there was a foundry flaw in casting the wheel because right where it broke, (and where I welded), there were some tiny air bubbles in the metal.
I eventually got into the oil business where there is always someone to blame for a mistake who might coldcock you, but probably won't cry. (One of the advantages of NOT being an independent businessman.)
Good Luck, my friend.
Lucky there wasn't more damage, but it's still gonna be a pain to fix.
I bet that was a very scary incident for the operator that implement!
Glad you weren't on a hill side !!! When you got to buy parts like that buy new or you might be doing this again !!
Been there, done that.
How does something like that happen and not be under warranty by John Deere? It puts out a bad message for them
Cause its old? This is by no means a new machine.
God job guys could have been lot worse sorry
Bro thing he Lightning Mc'queen 💀💀💀
"Ka-chow"
That hurts to see that nice piece of equipment ruined
Shes all back together now and ready for battle!
What happened to the days when John Deere was the best you could get? The company was easy to work with, and don't even get me started about the right to repair. Either you take antique sports car, good care of your equipment or it's super low hour. Hell, the paint isn't even worn on the snouts.
is a part coming?
Yep it’s just about all back together now!
I don’t care how old everything is a bit broke right there that’s a factory defect and they would be fixing my combine for me
That was lucky.
It's a mean green profit killing machine (for the farmer)
Glad everyone is okay . Working around heavy machinery on a slop is never good. But you guys did a great job. Equipment can be fixed or replaced, but human life can't be. Great job guys
Can’t help but notice the irony of the “sidehill” decal whilst the machine sits very broken… sideways…. On a hill.
That was an excellent recovery.. no damage on your behalf..good job boys...Stay safe
Happened to me twice on my 7700 when I had floaters on it. Once right side once left. The second time all I said was catch on fire catch on fire but no luck. Now I have 24's and no more problems. Be safe out there we need you.
Who ever the operator is, two rules. . Never do end rows with a full load. Never turn on a downhill grade with a full load. I'm really happy that this unit didn't completely land on it's side or worse. I could see from the way the rear wheels were turned, the operator was doing a sharp turn with an obviously full load into a fairly steep grade down. That was a beautiful recovery you guys made. Hopefully with some new parts and some wrench and hammering time she'll be as good as new again, soon. I'm sorry it happened to you, but in every mistake, we learn a lesson. Always off load into a cart when your near full or full before taking any kind of turn on steep grade. I'm just thankful no one was hurt and this happened so close to your shop. Again, great recovery guys, very impressed. God Bless y'all.
thanks for the comment! We were lucky it wasn't worse I am sure he will be keeping it lighter in the future
If that was possible. Lol. A lot of this stuff is nothing but hills and end rows. But I know what you mean.
It’s like a bit IQ test for the driver , he will work it out .
You sound like someone who has done this once or twice :D
These machines should easily cope with this amount of stress from normal operation! No excuses there
I hope you get on to John Deere and shame them into replacing that diabolical casting! Whether or not it's under warrantee - if I'd made it - I'd do my damnest to stop anyone finding out.
ZK MasterTech channel has quite a few more axles from Mr Deere that have given up the ghost rather too early for my liking - the flipping price of them, the parts should be guaranteed for life.
You pay for the name, not the quality. If they could put their name on raccoon turd lolly pops people would buy it just because it says "John Deere."
Awesome recovery!!!!! you guys almost looked like you knew what you were doing!!! thank God it wasn't worse!
The last good combine deere made. The new ones are all computers and lots of wiring. Too complicated for just taking corn off the cob and putting it in a box behind the operator! Make stuff simple!
As the owner of a 6600 for the last 30 years, I totally agree.
@@repairmanjoe8081 those were dam good combines also! Had one for 25 years, till I wore all the tinwork out. Good diesel engines too.
Second that-and not just farm machines. Computers have taken over our lives to the point we’re dead in the water without electricity.
While the old school farmers are out in the field combining, the high tech are still figuring out the monitors and why is that sensor not working right! Old school, still works!
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That has to be the cleanest 6620 I've seen since the 1980s. Hopefully you're able to get back together without breaking the bank.
It was one of the first harvesters i operated ... and im close to 60 now ... as an analogue machine, once you learnt its quirks and understood how temperature, humidity and grain moisture interact with the machine and how it thrashes, it was easy enough to get clean grain in the box, chaff out the back (with hardly any grain loss) ... and watch the hours tick by
NOT IF YOU SEND IT TO THE DEALER THEY WILL F**K YOU BIG TIME
Nice team work! Beautiful combine, glad no one got hurt!
They did a dern good job of it, and Safely, they had the right equipment and the brains to make it all work.
Ive done alot of sidehill final drives on 9500's 9510's... know how this battle goes.
Most farmers are high level agricultural engineers and that was a professional recovery
I love the 'can do' attitude of country boys, you can put your hand to anything and have fun doing it. Great video.
I had no ideas that could happen on a combine I'll tell you what that was this has been an interesting video watching how you guys recovered it kudos to you and your dad and your brothers
In my last video I used the word dagnabbit. After watching this video I didn't really have a true dagnabbit. On a side note that is the cleanest 6620 I have ever seen. I wish you well with the repair and putting that machine back in service 🙏
Thank you for the kind words
Should have walked that Bucyrus up there and picked the whole machine...
We would still be working on it lol
Same thing happened to me twenty years ago going down the road with a load on a standard 6620. The axle had been cracked for a while when it broke. Insurance rebuilt that entire side from the damage. Ran the combine another 16 seasons after the repair.
I never take a loaded combine down the road. Combine will get bouncing!
I am amazed how many broken axles comments have come from this video! definitely not uncommon it is interesting to hear everyone's stories
The thought process , the men helping to get the combine to a level spot , it shows patience & talent , being calm !! Amazing work that will have to be done ! Stay strong , continue on & best of luck getting it all back to working order , stay safe everyone !!!
at 16200lbs according to google I am surprised you are have the difficulty you are lifting it, now I dont know how much the front part weighs but I assume about 2k or 4k. I havent used excavators but I drive semis and I feel they could pick up a semi that is about 12k at the front 34k middle and 34k rear trailer pretty easy.
I agree with you- but there were a couple factors making it difficult. The way the machine was leaning on that hill we were lifting the majority of its weight at first. We also were not able to shovel all of the corn out of the bin so still a couple thousand pounds there. The hoe can’t lift too much at that high of a boom angle as the cylinders lose advantage. Someone said we should have driven the tracks up on logs to improve the geometry that was a good idea.
Looks like the older 6602’s were better built in that area.
Man that was and is a great looking 6620. I’ve got one myself. It’s been completely gone through. Runs like a champ. After looking at yours, mine needs a wax job! Ha!
Just so you know - I came here from Diesel Creek!
Me too.
Me too. Nice job.
I’m just a city folk, but how in the world do a combine snap an axle?
Not a great design and a lot of hours of fatigue
Man, I really love smart people at work....
There is nothing better than a little family time . Have a good one.
Another day in the life of a John Deere sidehill combine. The 9500's have similar problems.
Sounds like spongy Axel's our560 broke 2 same as a M
Talked to your dad today & he told me about your recovery, looking forward to catching up with you, haven’t talked to you in a while!
Sounds good!
Good assessment at the end. That's pretty much how it goes. Ya, for curiosity's sake you can usually tell where the old cracks were and the fresh break happened by discoloration. Not all that useful except maybe to look there at the other side, if it is in a visible area.
There are spray kits than can help detect cracks, but I dunno if you wanna get carried away like that or not.
Magnaflux is one way to determine cracking. I've found it works better than the spray on kits. Magnetic particle inspection also works, but is pricey.
What ultimately happened with this combine?
She's currently running corn!! I plan on making a video about her comeback
@@ScrappyIndustries Super, glad to hear it is operational again and that there's a new video in the works.
Already been said and dont mean to sound .... But.... : WHO THE HELL GOES ON THE STEEPEST PITCH POSSIBLE WITH 10 TONS IN THE HOPPER and then turns it sharp...??? 😳😳🙄🙄🙄 It's NOT EASY to break a combine axle people!! Hope we learned... WE UNLOAD WHEN WE'RE FULL ON LEVEL GROUND!!
Now we need to see the repair work great video
I like the way you keep a cool attitude during a catastrophe, Excellent video!
Your doing just great! You seem to have everything in control & know what your doing. If the warranty is no longer in force is it going to be feasible to repair or is it a total loss & all its good for is to part it out?
I was just kidding on the warranty this machine is around 40 years old lol she is back together now!
What do you expect ?? It's a John Deere. It's the Chevrolet of the Farming equipment. hahahahaha
"Beautiful Combine for it"s Age" "Nice too see it "!!! " Ps "I" had two 7720: break right & Left & Right Axles Front Drive"S Titan #1 & # "Two"!!!
Found your channel while watching Diesel Creek. This is an interesting recovery. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Typical day on a farm, nothing money and time won't fix.
What the hell. Piss poor John Deere. Quality control. Manufacturing. John Deere. Keeps cutting out quality making cheaper products.
Yikes, that’s sucks man. Glad nobody got hurt.
I bent the auger on a 6600 for the first time since 1996 never happened till this year!!!!
Nice treat for the birds to find.
Nice job getting the combine out of the field. Liked how calm you stayed through out the video.
Yelling doesn’t help a situation
@@ScrappyIndustries 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@@ScrappyIndustries I would have still said something either loud or ugly. unlike me, You are a true gentleman.
Need to magneflux the other side for hair line cracks.
KUDOS TO YOU FOR KNOWING YOUR MACHINES LIKE YOU DO. GOD BLESS.
Cymbale, nie wolno jeździć kombajnem z całym zbiornikiem ziarna, tylko od razu trzeba wysypać, cymbale! 😂🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣😁😁
In Norway our machinary insurance normally covers damages like this, and I would suppose that it is something like thag in your machinary insurance too.
That has to come to mind first. Attach something to the front axle. What else is there to say.
After seeing this I’m sure JD sent a TSB on this right here. 6620 owners are looking at their axels all over place. Great recovery guys.
Cool video. I was a John Deere tech in SW Nebraska for 21 years and never saw or hauled a sidehill combine. Interesting.... I have jacked up several regular machines with broken final drive axles. Not fun!!
What did it cost to repair this?
Amazing how calm everyone seemed. I know stuff happens on the farm and in real life, but that looked catastrophic. Glad for your explanation narrative, I calmed down after understanding the various issues. Many thanks! Stay well, stay safe!
Catastrophic is when there is some sort of electrical issue, especially one that requires JD to plug a computer in. This is just a broken piece of metal. might cost a lot but most anyone can do the repair. When its a computer related issue, they tend to cost a lot more, take longer and often don't get resolved the first few times.
@@MichaelMantion Thanks, Michael! I didn't realize how much the electronics play a part in the overall operation. Wow...
I spent several thousand hours in a 6620 standard cutting wheat and barley, just sold it a couple of years ago, always shedded it.
John Deere Titan 2 crushed under massive weight,
just like the OceanGate submersible
WOW, broken machinery rescue can be really hard at times. It can run inro a boat load of money to do repairs and such. But that's farming.
Русские бы это всё в два раза быстрее разобрали ,собрали ,улучшили ,выкинули бы половину ненужных запчастей и даже экскаватором не пользовались ,ну а пакистанцы бы вообще из одного комбайна собрали бы два комбайна и один маленький трактор :)
when lifting anything with a digger always ALWAYS drop the bucket first
i wouldnt be anywhere near the front of that ccombine while lifting lol. cant believe so much weight is designed to be on that fairly small casting, it seems poorly designed seems like it should be twice that thick
Suggest . Why do you have that golf cart sitting in the way. all of the places to park that golf cart. I guess so those people do not have to walk as far but parking in the golf cart out of the side of the camera might help a bit with your production.
You can't do that without a certified expensive john deer tech on site, hes booked for 3 months and you have to pay for him to come first class mind you.
This has to be covered by warranty, it’s a major fail.
Shafts like this should last forever.
Cab corn in the worst possible way ever! ✌
Thennnnn.... We chain the CAT to the back end so it doesn't slide down more... Thennnn... we drain the oil line to the other side so it drops...
change the name in john Crap!!! because its crap !! , is this under warantee??? because this seemsq to be a manufacturing error right??
Suggestions still can’t see what you were doing because of the golf cart being in the way is there a reason why the golf cart is sitting in the middle of the view of your construction . Really no reason why the golf cart hast to be there….
Вот смотрю и думаю как же они там бедняги загнивают, Как же они там бедняги на своих катарпиллерах и джондирах мучаются. )))
it could of been a lot worse.. and the recovery went very well with minimal damage