Why are they bad losers.they shaked handy and went away. Of cause they didnt start to dance after they lost a final by one goal. I dont know Moore but Papas and Collignon both seemed to be nice guys and sportsmen when i met them on turnaments. Jamal can be nice too, but only as long as everything goes well.
You cant blame anyone for not wanting to play on a table that had three men on the goalie rod instead of corner ramps. Ricochets off an outside goalie man gives too many undeserved slop points that can spoil a big match. Tornado used to have the ramps but found it cost effective for THEM to build with no ramps. They have no consideration for how the increase in slop points effects the outcomes for the players - especially when they'll never stand up and demand something better from tornado.
Sigh. Another clueless idiot. It's not the table, it's the player that makes the difference. Collignon dominated on European tables and then came over to the U.S. and dominated on Tornado tables. Loffredo dominated on Tornado tables and also in the late '70s and early '80s dominated on different tables. The elite players rise to the top and win consistently because of their technique, talent, timing and execution. They can learn to play any table. Sure a slop point is going to happen now and then on any table, it's part of the game, but the skill of the player will overcome that the majority of the time. These players snag and grab loose balls flying around with regularity.
@Frecious Slowjuice The point that AlexZander is trying to make is that with the elite players the slop goals on Tornado are no more frequent than one man goalie tables. If you want to see slop watch a Garlando match.
Surprised the Europeans don't see how much more exciting foosball looks on Tornado and play on them instead.. These tables are pretty boring to watch, even with players of this caliber..
wow, amazing playing by all 4 players. wish the rest of the world could see this match
Thanks for posting Jim. You could feel the intensity even without having watched the previous 4 games.
That that jar was pretty clear. Ryan called it the way it happened. That's probably why Billy was mad.
Very high level, the attacks of Frederic Collignon are so efficient !
Nice jar for the win. I guess that's how you become the best.
6:13 BOOM Headshot!
Someone have the other sets?
I want Moore's hat! :D
moor and pappas should switch the positons!
Not for free?
good matche
What is the name of this Table ( if I had to guess I'd say a Ullrich Sport )
The Belgian Waffle.
Yes Ullrich Sport
I didn't see any foul by the US Team on the replay...
It was a jar by Fred
it would have been better if moore stayed offence and pappas defence. Them switching messed everything up.
nice match
How so? Billy had a shot to win.
Last ball was mooore then disputable ...
Colignon is talented, but why does he always cheat ?
(LRB)
Why are they bad losers.they shaked handy and went away. Of cause they didnt start to dance after they lost a final by one goal. I dont know Moore but Papas and Collignon both seemed to be nice guys and sportsmen when i met them on turnaments. Jamal can be nice too, but only as long as everything goes well.
I don't know just for me personally, I believe moore played offence better than Pappas
i want to snake like moore !
You cant blame anyone for not wanting to play on a table that had three men on the goalie rod instead of corner ramps. Ricochets off an outside goalie man gives too many undeserved slop points that can spoil a big match.
Tornado used to have the ramps but found it cost effective for THEM to build with no ramps. They have no consideration for how the increase in slop points effects the outcomes for the players - especially when they'll never stand up and demand something better from tornado.
Sigh. Another clueless idiot. It's not the table, it's the player that makes the difference. Collignon dominated on European tables and then came over to the U.S. and dominated on Tornado tables. Loffredo dominated on Tornado tables and also in the late '70s and early '80s dominated on different tables.
The elite players rise to the top and win consistently because of their technique, talent, timing and execution. They can learn to play any table. Sure a slop point is going to happen now and then on any table, it's part of the game, but the skill of the player will overcome that the majority of the time. These players snag and grab loose balls flying around with regularity.
@Frecious Slowjuice The point that AlexZander is trying to make is that with the elite players the slop goals on Tornado are no more frequent than one man goalie tables. If you want to see slop watch a Garlando match.
Not a jar
Dirty @9:55
Surprised the Europeans don't see how much more exciting foosball looks on Tornado and play on them instead.. These tables are pretty boring to watch, even with players of this caliber..
It's not our table :) we play on wood table Jupiter
nice match