@@mochaleaves Exactly, we do rotate. Mostly lands on my lap because others are shy but please continue encouraging to boost confidence. It can be nerve-wracking moderating an episode esp when we have guests. Lorna is a natural.
I love Eli’s confidence, how Oscar is so self aware and Georgie for being so articulate! Thanks for sharing your experiences. Much love to you girls- dream team🌹
@@chelliesimotwo which is quite ok hun! 🤗 We can definitely differ and still applaud the ladies for being consistent & bringing other sets of ideas/ mindsets on the vlog❤️
Gosh just listening to these gents makes me realize how much males and females actually think differently..and it takes intentional effort to make each other happy..in a friendship/relationship etc..
Oscar's thought process is impeccable. 'Rediscover your partner, observe and support them', such a self aware man!!!! He is deep. Some of us appreciate such qualities. We can't all want the same thing. Let the man be.
Oscar's compliments throw the ladies off in a good way. From last week's episode it was Jules. This week Lornzie was stunned when he mentioned the top...
About cohabitation, it is no longer considered as legal marriage after a certain number of years. The matrimonial act was revised. You are either customarily married, with proof of payment of dowry and witnesses, and/or you are married under statutory law (where we sogn certificates in church or at Sheria house) If you are married and acquire property together, no party is allowed to sell without the other party's consent. That'll be null and void. So if you are cohabiting, make sure that you are well protected in terms of property acquired by both of you. Or in case someone dies intestate, and dependants appear, with proof that they were dependant on the person who died, the property is divided into per unit. If married under statutory law, where you've signed the certificate, the other woman/man is not considered as married to the dead party, so he/she will not acquire any property but children born out of this, will get something because they are considered as innocent.
I am curious!! What is Eli looking for?? Coz I thought I had * check boxes * but I think, HE is the SOURCE of check boxes!!! Georgie says a lot without saying much…beautiful mind, love it.
Oscar is a misunderstood genius. There are so many men like him. People should stop criticizing him because he sees things different. We can't all have the same perspective about life . let the man be ffs
Every time I see Ivy and hear her point of view of relationships.. it makes me know and feel that she is on a great journey of not taking bullshit!! AND I LOVE IT! whatever you are going through May you find the strength to persevere and to make it out stronger!! ❤️❤️
@@musasalimmwambogho4898 Your thinking is surprising. Someone's past does not dictate the value they bring in to conversations and to the table. Also, what you said is untrue. It takes two to tango and it us not a woman's responsibility to police 'her' man and V.v. Perhaps think through things better.
Lorna's intro🔥energy🔥great conversation.And yes, nagging makes men leave the house, come late etc. For sure. Even the Bible states in proverbs that you rather as a man spend time on the rooftop or in a lion's den than with a nagging woman🤣
I totally like Oscar and I don't think he's trying too hard... I just think he's responding according to the phase of life that he's currently at.... it feels honest... loving all the guys tho, great episode
You can't look for traits of a stable relationship from 40 year old married couples it's a complete journey you just have to be ready to be with this individual and the 40 years should tell you that value built it took that long #mythoughts
Human relationships are interesting because we are all not the same and we were brought up differently. How we wee raised really affects how we perceive , give and receive love and the kind of a partner we chose for ourselves. People who were brought up in love like Eli are hard to find a partner because they have an idea of what love actually is and they tend to find themselves in healthier relationships. I know someone who has resolved to never get married because her parents’ marriage is so perfect she has already decided that she can’t find someone to match it up with her. But most of us were brought up in dysfunctional families and we need to heal before entering in relationships and that’s what Oscar is big on . If I date a guy for two years and there are no marriage plans in the pipeline, I’d definitely ASK because nowadays, I personally don’t use assumptions. Let the person verbalize their intentions and expectations Also, I was super excited to meet George and Eli juzi, humble and awesome guys even kwa ground
I think Eli requires specific values from his partner to be able to commit to them. and until he meets that person, he is fine being alone. which in my opinion is realistic. Praying he finds that person.
The body language of the ladies when men were talking says a lot. Also research shows that men over estimate themsleves. Contributes to why they take many bad /dangerous risks
Wueh! Loving the new intro🔥🔥not me rewinding to watch it again😍. Warembo always on point💯. Interesting men guests. My Monday just got brighter🌞.Nawapenda tu bure😘.
Oscar is a textbook person. Lol. It looks as though he speaks in logic and philosophy. Lool. A lawyer indeed. I still believe he's a soffttiiee at heart and he's so protective of who he will allow in his space up to a point of vulnerability. Eli knows what he wants. He knows and he doesn't want to play around or try to see. He wants to see, then commit. No unnecessary heartaches. I'm with him on this. Georgie is just phenomenal!
Also the second question was 'Is it really hard to have a platonic relationship with women?' And they discussed it widely but didn't really answer the question...my point is, in future episodes could the moderator try to prevent this digressions? Coz I personally would love to hear their views on the questions asked directly before they go to the peripherals.
could you guys do an episode on "understanding the female mind". the episode was great and i love it when you have the guys coz having their point of view in the discussions is always great
I love watching this channel. I love the way you dont give people pressure of life by showing of what you have and where you are in life, but you are here to tackle and talk about thing that people go through day to day in life and i love that about you guys Your personal life is your personal life your achievements and all. Atlist you have made it clear in this channel that pressures of life is everywhere and no one lives a perfect life . It doesn't matter where you are or what you have.
Love the episode, and the fact that yo brought in another set of guys (and twice) in a row. So refreshing! The conversation was quite authentic and relatable. Keep it up ladies!!❤❤❤❤
Oscar goes deep to quick. He is not able to stay at the superficial level in answering questions and thus throws people of a lot because the reference points are not communicated in the process of answering.
It's just part of lawyer mindset, I totally understand what he is saying and it's one of the traits that come with being a lawyer. But you also have to learn to explain yourself to other people
It's 30-07-2023, this popped up on my youtube timeline, and I had to click and come back to mourn what we lost. I will never forget you gals. But still love you all
you guys are amazing and honestly, i wanna be you when I'm older..... I also love those three gentlemen you invite they are really honest and realistic, its always refreshing watching you guys do your thing. i love you guys cant wait for more......
Glad the guys are back. On Ali Abdaal's channel, there's an episode where he previews a book, How Not to Die Alone by Logan Ury, and she says that we can all fall into one of three categories of dating tendencies with/without traits from the other two categories ,ie, romanticizers, hesitator and maximizers. I think Eli is a maximizer.
I don’t know that the idea is to pursue and capture but rather to pursue and experience a person which means you are in a constant active state in relationships. Putting up a front in your pursuit means the ‘other’ gets attracted to an ideal and not you. When you then withdraw the front after you get their attention, you are not the person the ‘other’ fell for and that is dubious.
I love the 1st question. I would date myself. I think the older I get the better I’ve gotten. I ask myself this question whenever I want to pursue a relationship with someone else. If I wouldn’t date myself, I’d rather deal with why rather than subject someone else to a bad experience.
George is a dream... Just wow. Oscar is...a lawyer. Enough said. And Eli...he knows exactly what he wants and he's not willing to settle for less and I totally admire that. I'm also from a really amazing family, my parents are my #couplegoals for daaaaays and yes that has definitely affected my ability to find a suitable mate cz I know what a true partnership looks like and I'm not willing to settle for anything less.
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It's so refreshing to see Lornzie in charge! You should do it more often...
They usually rotate though Jules does the most
@@mochaleaves Exactly, we do rotate. Mostly lands on my lap because others are shy but please continue encouraging to boost confidence. It can be nerve-wracking moderating an episode esp when we have guests. Lorna is a natural.
She sure has rocked the role!
You're right sandra lornzie seems a little nervous but it's just so great
Right right!!!!!!!!
LORNA is INCHARGE! I'm here for it ! 🙌
I love Eli’s confidence, how Oscar is so self aware and Georgie for being so articulate! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Much love to you girls- dream team🌹
I hate that I don't like this video as much as the rest these amazing ladies have done, but I'm getting a lot of "pick me" vibes from Eli...
@@chelliesimotwo which is quite ok hun! 🤗 We can definitely differ and still applaud the ladies for being consistent & bringing other sets of ideas/ mindsets on the vlog❤️
Lorna moderating the episode 💉💉 the energy >>>
we need more 🥰
I feel like the episodes with men are usually the best ones, please make them more.. As a man I love seeing us being represented by sober men ..
These three are the best.
We need more Kenyan men like them,if so ladies will all be married😂
@@Torihappyness there are very many good men out here, ni venye not all of them are in the limelight to air their views..
I know right, personally I got glued to the episodes with guys featured
@@kmichaels114 love that, me too!!
Gosh just listening to these gents makes me realize how much males and females actually think differently..and it takes intentional effort to make each other happy..in a friendship/relationship etc..
I’m on min 2 and I LOVE Lorna’s energy on this episode!!!!! Yaaay 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You're here too 😂😂
Oscar's thought process is impeccable. 'Rediscover your partner, observe and support them', such a self aware man!!!! He is deep. Some of us appreciate such qualities. We can't all want the same thing. Let the man be.
"Your job as a man is not to redirect but to observe and support"Alot of men need to understand that👏👏👏
I've always loved How Ivy sees things,and how she interprets stuff!! Real AF!!
Also, George is phenomenal!!!
Oscar's compliments throw the ladies off in a good way. From last week's episode it was Jules. This week Lornzie was stunned when he mentioned the top...
funny thing is you will find some funny characters here going to roast the ninja in the bird app
The way Eliiiii talks 😍and not just the words or the accent but the deliberate and thoughtful way he speaks... So attractive😘👌
So true
I agree
His accent oh my 🥺🥺🥺😍
He is sweet
When Ivy said to Lornzie "you'd be on a journey" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Funny as hell
@@lmuchemi14 Can you start vlogging hun?
I'd love that for you.
Like Oscar is 🤣
That was funny🤣🤣🤣
Growing up in a perfect family is a blessing in disguise 😂 the kind of boxes we have to tick is extensive. I feel Eli.
True
About cohabitation, it is no longer considered as legal marriage after a certain number of years. The matrimonial act was revised. You are either customarily married, with proof of payment of dowry and witnesses, and/or you are married under statutory law (where we sogn certificates in church or at Sheria house) If you are married and acquire property together, no party is allowed to sell without the other party's consent. That'll be null and void. So if you are cohabiting, make sure that you are well protected in terms of property acquired by both of you. Or in case someone dies intestate, and dependants appear, with proof that they were dependant on the person who died, the property is divided into per unit. If married under statutory law, where you've signed the certificate, the other woman/man is not considered as married to the dead party, so he/she will not acquire any property but children born out of this, will get something because they are considered as innocent.
I think people who cohabit should consider just getting the marriage certificate and signing it, no need to have a big wedding.
Exactly.. Presumption of marriage nolonger exists. Children whether in or out of wedlock must be taken care of
@@sheilagrace9042 in this Kenya if a man doesn't want to take care of the child there is little you can do. Best bet is to start off with marriage.
For customary marriage,it has to be registered with 6 months of completion of the dowry ceremony. If it's not,it still isn't considered a legal union.
I am curious!! What is Eli looking for?? Coz I thought I had * check boxes * but I think, HE is the SOURCE of check boxes!!! Georgie says a lot without saying much…beautiful mind, love it.
35:33 Don't shame Lornzie for cursing bratha...the girls have created a fully expressive space and we love itttt!!!! No take backs.
Yes please and thank you!
Oscar is a misunderstood genius. There are so many men like him. People should stop criticizing him because he sees things different. We can't all have the same perspective about life . let the man be ffs
Agreed
genius?? lol
Every time I see Ivy and hear her point of view of relationships.. it makes me know and feel that she is on a great journey of not taking bullshit!! AND I LOVE IT! whatever you are going through May you find the strength to persevere and to make it out stronger!! ❤️❤️
Yasss. I fucking need this! Thank you Kendi
She was a side chic not the best person ask for relationship advice. She destroyed another woman's marriage
@@musasalimmwambogho4898 Your thinking is surprising. Someone's past does not dictate the value they bring in to conversations and to the table. Also, what you said is untrue. It takes two to tango and it us not a woman's responsibility to police 'her' man and V.v. Perhaps think through things better.
@@musasalimmwambogho4898 really? I thought Lee said they got together after he's marriage was over.
@@mercyme4262 I watched him on mancave and he said so, problem is we are a judgmental society and want to pick only on the side we feel safe with.
wah 🤣Jules and Ivy kept checking out. its been long since I've seen Jules this bored
🤣🤣🤣
If I was a dude, I'd aspire to be like Georgie. Dude is the definition of a quintessential modern man!
I honestly find Oscar over ambitious..
Eli is just amazing he thinks before he speaks which is awesome...
George is 👌👌👌always..
It's Lorna's fashion sense for me,it's just on another level ❤️
Lorna is always the quiet one and I love that she is in charge.
The age difference between the guys and ladies is really showing. Guys wameiva theory but kwa ground everything isn't practical
That is so true
I have enjoyed Lorna being a moderator today please give us more of her.
love how Jules melts when Eli is speaking.
Lorna's intro🔥energy🔥great conversation.And yes, nagging makes men leave the house, come late etc. For sure. Even the Bible states in proverbs that you rather as a man spend time on the rooftop or in a lion's den than with a nagging woman🤣
This is so true, these days am just quiet in my relationship and I love the outcome, hubby talks to me more and is always asking "are you ok?"😉
I totally like Oscar and I don't think he's trying too hard... I just think he's responding according to the phase of life that he's currently at.... it feels honest... loving all the guys tho, great episode
She was so quiet on ' the signs he's not ready' episode...I'm loving her confidence on this episode..keep up y'all 👏👏.... Mitchelle always so cute😩❣️
That first question set a good pace for sure, i was hooked(not that i wouldn't be). I loved how the girls answered it
You can't look for traits of a stable relationship from 40 year old married couples it's a complete journey you just have to be ready to be with this individual and the 40 years should tell you that value built it took that long #mythoughts
When Ivy asked, "how would they know?" and Lornzie said "... Coz they're men" 🤣🤣
Human relationships are interesting because we are all not the same and we were brought up differently. How we wee raised really affects how we perceive , give and receive love and the kind of a partner we chose for ourselves.
People who were brought up in love like Eli are hard to find a partner because they have an idea of what love actually is and they tend to find themselves in healthier relationships.
I know someone who has resolved to never get married because her parents’ marriage is so perfect she has already decided that she can’t find someone to match it up with her.
But most of us were brought up in dysfunctional families and we need to heal before entering in relationships and that’s what Oscar is big on .
If I date a guy for two years and there are no marriage plans in the pipeline, I’d definitely ASK because nowadays, I personally don’t use assumptions. Let the person verbalize their intentions and expectations
Also, I was super excited to meet George and Eli juzi, humble and awesome guys even kwa ground
Georgie is a national treasure!!
Lornzie did a great job moderating the episode. Also she looks so cute😍
Don't we all love her!
Ndirangu and Jules could make a great couple 🥰🥰❤️
Yaaaaaassss
I soooo wanted to saaaayyyy this😁
Yesss they do
They kinda have thy sexual tension 😂😂😂 maybe it’s just me wanting Georgie
You and I sis
I F'ING LOVE IVY AND THE WAY SHE CARRIES HERSELF 😍😍 confident strong queen
The way Georgie looks at Ivy 🥰😍
@@mwakundi who is Georgie pls?
Lorna's look is fire!!!! Plus she did an awesome job today!!
05:38 Lornzie to Shikie “You heard that?”😂😂That look you give your bestie 😂😂. Love it!😂
Slowly seeing the disappointment growing in the girl's faces 😂😂
Seen that too
I love you guys 😍.... keep doing what you are doing. So happy lornzie is chatty today😉
We miss you girlies!!!! This was a beautiful era😍
I think Eli requires specific values from his partner to be able to commit to them. and until he meets that person, he is fine being alone. which in my opinion is realistic. Praying he finds that person.
I totally agree. He's not just looking for "who can I stay with to escape the single title"
He found her. He is dating 😊
Oscar is such a vibe!!!makes one feel some type of way😊😊
I am more of Jules & Ivy's personality....so when someone with Lornzie's personality is in charge .....I just love it!....
Lornzie, great job❤️👏
My heart skipped a beat when he said Bachata and Kizomba..
I'm here revising notes!!! I can't fumble my man my man my man😅😍
The body language of the ladies when men were talking says a lot. Also research shows that men over estimate themsleves. Contributes to why they take many bad /dangerous risks
Wueh! Loving the new intro🔥🔥not me rewinding to watch it again😍. Warembo always on point💯. Interesting men guests. My Monday just got brighter🌞.Nawapenda tu bure😘.
I loved the last conversation with the boys and see you guys brought them back💗. I love loving you girls 😘❤️
Love right back!
Lornzie's loctician understands their assignment 👌👌
A very calm episode.. No talking over each other like you do sometimes, thanks to lornzie for moderating .
Anyways very insightful 😊
Ivy to Lorna: "you'd be on a journey" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 dead
Oscar is a textbook person. Lol. It looks as though he speaks in logic and philosophy. Lool. A lawyer indeed. I still believe he's a soffttiiee at heart and he's so protective of who he will allow in his space up to a point of vulnerability.
Eli knows what he wants. He knows and he doesn't want to play around or try to see. He wants to see, then commit. No unnecessary heartaches. I'm with him on this.
Georgie is just phenomenal!
I agree with you Firdaws. Oscar is a textbook guy and I think that he is always politically correct.
I absolutely agree! I find Oscar too philosophical and often times unrealistic
My monday low-key starts after watching over25 channel
Being in my late 20s and listening to women in their 30s reasoning makes me get so interested in older women.
Jules is giving us life with that face, Simple Beat for the gwadz! 😊❤️
23:07 love it! Rediscover the person you are with so that you can fall in love again and again... 👌🏽👌🏽that was nicely put.
Also the second question was 'Is it really hard to have a platonic relationship with women?' And they discussed it widely but didn't really answer the question...my point is, in future episodes could the moderator try to prevent this digressions? Coz I personally would love to hear their views on the questions asked directly before they go to the peripherals.
could you guys do an episode on "understanding the female mind".
the episode was great and i love it when you have the guys coz having their point of view in the discussions is always great
I love watching this channel. I love the way you dont give people pressure of life by showing of what you have and where you are in life, but you are here to tackle and talk about thing that people go through day to day in life and i love that about you guys
Your personal life is your personal life your achievements and all.
Atlist you have made it clear in this channel that pressures of life is everywhere and no one lives a perfect life . It doesn't matter where you are or what you have.
For me its like an anti depression dose🤣 everytime i watch your channel 😁🤜
Here here 🍻
Love the episode, and the fact that yo brought in another set of guys (and twice) in a row. So refreshing! The conversation was quite authentic and relatable. Keep it up ladies!!❤❤❤❤
Lonzie Is 🔥🔥Uve Directed The Show Very Well..
It was such a brilliant idea having the ladies at the front because the *FACIAL EXPRESSIONS* when the dudes are responding...priceless :-) !!!
Oscar goes deep to quick. He is not able to stay at the superficial level in answering questions and thus throws people of a lot because the reference points are not communicated in the process of answering.
Could he be doing what you are doing? I lost you too 😫
@@annajohannes5455 😂😂😂
I think he over complicates everything
It's just part of lawyer mindset, I totally understand what he is saying and it's one of the traits that come with being a lawyer. But you also have to learn to explain yourself to other people
@@antonettewambani805 I would not hire him. Because he wouldn't be able to explain the law in a way I can understand
❤️❤️🥰.
Just a suggestion…. How about a round table or a setting where you all are facing each other while having conversations🤪.
🥰🥰🥰
It's 30-07-2023, this popped up on my youtube timeline, and I had to click and come back to mourn what we lost.
I will never forget you gals.
But still love you all
Georgie saying "Patricia" and me sitting here with my Eli crush like 🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️😂😂🤭
I really enjoy Oscar’s point of view. Honest and relatable to me.
you guys are amazing and honestly, i wanna be you when I'm older.....
I also love those three gentlemen you invite they are really honest and realistic, its always refreshing watching you guys do your thing. i love you guys cant wait for more......
Glad the guys are back. On Ali Abdaal's channel, there's an episode where he previews a book, How Not to Die Alone by Logan Ury, and she says that we can all fall into one of three categories of dating tendencies with/without traits from the other two categories ,ie, romanticizers, hesitator and maximizers. I think Eli is a maximizer.
I agree with Oscar. Ladies look like a billion bucks!❤️ Never heard of man talk community but now I do. Keep doing the great work Kings!
George really spoke deep at the end. When you reach that level, you just have to chill, otherwise you won't settle. Big up Georgie.
It lornzie time.. yeeeeeeey..I love that she lead this
Not the guys being alarmed by the F word and the babes are just like chilling and carrying on 😅😂
I don’t know that the idea is to pursue and capture but rather to pursue and experience a person which means you are in a constant active state in relationships. Putting up a front in your pursuit means the ‘other’ gets attracted to an ideal and not you. When you then withdraw the front after you get their attention, you are not the person the ‘other’ fell for and that is dubious.
Ivy’s face when compliments are shared 😂
Ikr😂😂
Shiks question was itttt!..,This was really amazing 100%
Loooooove Lornzie is leading the convo on this episode! 🙌🏽 and yeah, it’s a safe mature place to express yourself however so kudos Lornzie!
"Nah bruh ,I'm goot at this shit " danko oscar 😂😂🇿🇦
I love the 1st question. I would date myself. I think the older I get the better I’ve gotten. I ask myself this question whenever I want to pursue a relationship with someone else. If I wouldn’t date myself, I’d rather deal with why rather than subject someone else to a bad experience.
I was too excited to se the guys come back. Love both their channels
The wisdom in the building!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I wish they would put this on a podcast like on Spotify 😭😭 just same episode just audio version and video version 🥺
Lorna's energyyyy>>>>>>>>
George is a dream... Just wow. Oscar is...a lawyer. Enough said. And Eli...he knows exactly what he wants and he's not willing to settle for less and I totally admire that. I'm also from a really amazing family, my parents are my #couplegoals for daaaaays and yes that has definitely affected my ability to find a suitable mate cz I know what a true partnership looks like and I'm not willing to settle for anything less.
Good job ladies and gents👏👏 nice to see Lornzie taking charge!
Now safe to say that this is the best podcast collab to ever excist🥳
CONSISTENCY is the motto of the year! Loving the videos. 😄😄
Watching with my manzzz and allowing him to respond as well from his perspective and I love it!!!! He did find this very interesting though🥰
I want to ask how the 'journey' is going, but I won't 😂
😂😂😂
I love Eli. His sense of humor omg!!!
I'd listen to you guys a whole day and not get tired.so much to learn❤️
Lorna did great she should do this more often you look lovely ladies
Who knows how many times have refreshed my app for the episode😃
The male version of Ivy will go well with shikky
I love your intro I always jam to the beats to the end then I am happy you brought the dudes back
Happy Valentine's day to Eli only..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ikr ...😂😂😂😂
I’m getting addicted to this this beautiful channel with amazing content ❤❤