Printing MISTAKES I Wish I STOPPED Sooner! (Landscape Photography)
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In this week’s episode, we discuss the beginner printing mistakes I wish I avoided when printing my landscape photos. From my personal experience, printing is perhaps the most difficult aspect of photography, but at the same time the most rewarding and educational as well. I've learned a great deal over the past 4 years that I've been printing my own landscape photos and have made a ton of costly mistakes along the way as well.
In this video, I'll share with you the beginner printing mistakes that impacted me the most when I first started printing, in hopes that this video will help accelerate the learning process for anyone looking to start printing their own landscape photos. I've found that printing is also one of the best ways to improve as a photographer as it will enable you to "see" your photos in a completely different manner as opposed to that of viewing them on a computer screen or phone. From my personal experience, I've found that I tend to spend more time looking at an actual print as opposed to looking at an image on a computer or phone. And this additional time spent allows for greater examination of the image that ultimately enables you to identify the things you like about your print along with the things you wish you had done differently. I hope you enjoy this episode and as always, thanks for watching! - Mark D.
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Do you print your photos?
I do. It is amazing to look at printed photos. Digital screen is not the same.
I’d love to print more. would have to come up with a way to store and display them first. I think it’s pointless printing if you can’t see them on a wall somewhere. If it’s going to gather dust rolled up somewhere I’d rather be saving the environment and not printing.
@@Light_Camera_Story 100% agree!
I did But I am sick of buying Paper and Ink I have the Canon 100 Pro still sitting on my shelf, ...Now I just send it out and i always wait for the sale prices, I can have them done cheaper that I can do it myself ... I just ordered 4 -30x40 an hour ago........... got to Love the GFX 100
I bought an Epson P600 when it came out, I use Qimage Ultimate printing facility on profiled Fotospeed paper with a calibrated screen.
Mark - While I agree printing your work is very important, I go by the adage of "Time, Stress, and Money". I've owned several pro level printers and quickly realized (for me) that it was not an economical endeavor. The initial outlay for the cost of the printer, then the insane cost of ink, plus the cost of paper in different sizes or types/weights..... Only to send 10-20 prints through it (wasting ink and paper) to "dial it in" made no sense for me. It was a lot of time, stress, and money to spend doing something that I could easily outsource to a company that has the equipment, paper, and knowledge to get it right the first time, or if it comes out wrong, they reprint at no cost. The printer I currently use sent me their profile so I can soft proof it in Lightroom and it's been pretty much spot on every time. I'm in love with the idea of printing my own work, but not with the reality.
I agree. Add to that all the extra ink you'll waste performing head cleanings because your nozzles constantly clog due to not enough use...
As with everything in photography, how it works for you is all that really matters. That being said, having printed my own image for 45 years, I know that printing is a lot like examining your life. And we know what they say about that!
Your point is valid, but he was not even arguing it. He simply pointed out mistakes he ran into and shared his experiences in case you do want to embark on endeavor of making your own prints. Personally I would too outsource printing to a company due to the financial and time reasons, but I learned a lot watching this video and i was very grateful Mark shared it with us. Actually, this video even further convinced me that I should not do my own prints.
I have the same printer. Shoot with Nikon D850. Beautiful results although I use a plugin, Canon Print Studio Pro for the printing setup. Yes, it is expensive but so are boat slips, BMWs and and and.... you get it.
I like to get you a little tip that I use. I always make a 4x5 or 5x7 test print before I make the bigger print, and put it in a photo book. On the back of the test print I write in the paper I used, and settings if I had to make minor ajustments to the on screen image, so If I ever need to go back to make additional prints I would know what setting I used.
I do the same! Tho I lost my photo books in a fire of all my test prints :-(
@@Smi77y1 Bummer.
@@thomastuorto9929 So it doesn't save it?
@@tamiboelter2833 If you use the soft proofing option Mark showed, as soon as you make an adjustment you'll be prompted to make a virtual copy. So yes, the adjustments are saved in a virtual copy and the name includes the profile use.
You missed one very handy tool. You can softproof with 2 images next to each other in lightroom one on the left is the edited photo and on the right is the edited photo with the paperprofile. So you can fine tune the photo for printing that it almost exact looks the same as the edited photo on screen. I hope you understand what i am saying my english is not top notch 😂
I just realized that nifty little trick the other day. It works pretty good. I can get really close to my original edit.
This video was very helpful. I don’t print as often as I’d like to, and would like to be able to get my photos printed out for friends and family. I don’t print my own pictures, I send them off to the lab. I would love if you could make a video about how to send photos from Lightroom to a lab to get printed - I want to improve, and be able to give better gifts to loved ones. Thanks for your help!
I have always felt the printing (darkroom or digital) is part of the photographic artistic process. Matching the paper, saturation and tones to a particular image to get the look and feel you want to convey. I find it more rewarding when I do the whole camera to wall myself.
I'm a heavily budgeted photo amateur. Can't even think about getting a quality photo printer. I thought this video was going to be a waste of time but learning about screen calibration and realizing that I should look more thoroughly into the places I send images for enlargements is important. Thanks Mark.
Great to hear David - glad it was helpful!
Don't know if you're looking for recommendations, but I too am an amateur with significant budget constraint. Last year, I got the Canon Pixma-100 Pro on sale and it is amazingly good and very affordable. I know they have newer versions now, so there might even be a better option out there. It is certainly more affordable than outsourcing your printing jobs, and I think much more fun :-)
Mark is right. PRINT YOUR WORK! It is SOOOO rewarding.
Last thing I printed was on high gloss aluminum. I definitely learned a lot from it. There are a couple things you spoke on that will help. One is sharpening for print instead of screen and adding a step or two of exposure.
This is something I've never considered before, it's opened my eyes to a whole new world of confusion. First step, understand post processing, then I'll get on to printing! Thanks as always Mark, your videos are excellent on so many levels (did you ever explain about the stopped clock, I forget where someone asked that recently)
Thank you Mark, I was looking forward to this video, as I am wanting to start printing my photos as well.
Glad to do it and hope you enjoy it!
Some good points there Mark especially about bumping exposure up before printing. I skipped printing to paper and went straight to dye sublimation on chromaluxe. It was a big move that few will do. Some good advice for anyone looking to sell their prints is to have their name on it visible to the buyer. No name means it could have been bought anywhere and you want separate yourself from Bed Bath and Beyond.
Do you sign the actual picture? If so what do you use? Or do you sign the white border around it with like a pencil?
@@Alexonfire1 I use a digital signature on the print. I have been asked to hand sign the back in addition to. My signature on the front is just my last name. Keep it simple and not distracting.
Mark!! I have been struggling with making prints for a few weeks now, and everything you listed in this video is exactly what I have been doing wrong. This video is exactly what I needed to see. Yes, my images ALWAYS look different on paper compared to the screen and social media. Really appreciate this content!! Perfect timing LOL. Cheers
Exciting to hear it was helpful Lisa!
Thank you so much for sharing your learning curve with us; it definitely will give us miles ahead in avoiding the same mistakes. Highly appreciated sir.
you always comes up with great content Mark, really appreciate and you filled the gaps again running in my mind. thank you!!
I have a Canon Pro-100, First print was very dark. I had read about monitor calibration and since I didn't have one, I took a photo I printed and put it next to the monitor and took me almost 2hrs but I adjusted the monitor color to that photo and after editing the photos in Lightroom with the new monitor settings the photos come out great and havent had to adjust much on my prints! But definitely printing helps you see things in your photos that you would normally not pay attention to in a screen, therefore makes you improve your photography.
Great video Mark, very detailed and informative!!.
Very good tutorial, Mark! I don’t have room for a printer, but I am thinking I can do soft proofing by finding out the printer and papers available at my local print lab.
Thank you Mark. I just received my Canon Pro-1000 2 days ago. I didn't know about the soft proofing feature in Lightroom and this has helped immensely. Thank you for the well timed release of this video!
Very helpful. I am going through the process of getting my Images printed now so will relook at points you make thank you Mark 💕
Thanks so much for checking out the video Jan!
Thanks for the tips! Excited to start my first few prints
Thanks for this information Mark.
Once again, Great information. Thank you.
I have been thinking about printing my own photos. Very informative Thank You
This is so helpful. Thanks!!
Mark, awesome video. You hit the high points and I learned a lot. I too have a Canon Pro 1000, and have just begun to print my images. I did it your way...just jumped in. Now I will be more deliberate, using your five lessons learned as a guide. Perfect!! Gerry
Very timely video as I am currently looking at buying a printer and wading off into this part of photography. Thanks for all of the information! Great video.
great video, didn't know about the soft proofing, it does help. I use Red River paper and use their printer profiles, but the soft proofing lets you tweak the setting for the paper which is real nice since my latest favorite is their metallic paper which isn't exactly cheap.
Thanks so much for this!
Photography...the hobby that never ends...planning photos, taking photos, editing, travel, workshops, RUclips, making BTS videos, printing, selling, assignments, and don't forget vans!
very good points! I also think it's a Good idea to keep the same color space throughout your entire process from camera to exporting.😊
I am about to buy my first pro printer. This has been an excellent starting video for my printing journey! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for a great video Mark!
thanks for posting this. It has helped me a lot about how I go about setting up to print my photos..
Glad to do it Greg!
I love printing my images on my Epson 3880 and, like you, have made all of the mistakes you describe. Nevertheless, I learned a few new things from your video and am keen to implement them next print session. Firstly the print editing. I have used it a few times but not consistently. I must try to persevere with this function, as you describe. And then there is the Lightroom colour management print profile. I always select the actual paper ICC profile. I never even previously noted the “Managed by Printer” option. Must give it a try (on a small sheet of paper :). I always set “no colour adjustment” in the printer settings to ensure colour is controlled by LR or PS not the printer so perhaps there is some confusion between these two LR functions.
Absolutely the best teaching of printing I have heard.
Great info as always Mark. Not printed any of my work yet, but you can bet I’ll be referring to this video when I do 👍
Much appreciated Glen!
Very helpful video, thanks a lot for sharing 👍🏻
I have just bought a Canon Pro 100S printer and your tips will be very useful for me to get started printing my photos. Thanks Mark.
Thanks for the great information!!
Love me some ordered and named mistakes and a good before-and-after video in the morning :)
I have printed a few photos and the first thing I said when I opened them “man, these are dark!”. Thanks for this video!
Yep I'm sure thats the most common response on the first print!
@@MarkDenneyPhoto I hung them up anyway. They weren't cheap! Ha! Just a constant reminder of what not to do next time.
@@russellhagy I have had the same problem until I had discovered in Lightroom in print mode => Printjob => Print Adjustment => There I had to pull up my Brightness all the way up to 100 % and Contrast (my personal individual preference) 10 %. I had your original problem too, first print attempts too dark and everything else as Mark has described about the learning curve of trial and error...
If your prints are dark then your monitor is to bright I set my monitor at 90
Thank you so much Mark! Learned quite a lot. Still haven't printed any images of mine probably I will start now from outside before investing in a printer. Thank you!
Thanks so much, Mark.
Great, Great information Mark.
Thanks Mark, another excellent video👍
Precious advice. Thank you!
Great video! Im really interested to see the difference between printing the same photo taken with x-t3 and gfx100.
Excellent video!! Very informative.
A good guide that mate. I too discovered all of these tips the hard way. It was a beautiful but expensive journey. 👍
Mark, this video, ironically, could not have come at a better time. I am currently starting to learn all i can about doing my own prints and coincidentally looking at the very same printer as what you have. Some of the items I knew already that you mentioned but I did learn a few new things as well. I would love to do a session with you when I finally do get my printer set up and have you maybe go into more specific detail on my particular work flow. Great job as always and keep them coming my friend.
Absolutely! Just let me know
Thanks for the information Mark!!
Glad to do it Patty!
I was waiting for these kind of video seriously its gonna bel help me and Now I can go ahead and print some of my work... Thanks allot for making this video ❤️
You bet and thank you for watching them!
Very helpfull video! Thanks a lot! :)
The Lightroom soft proofing tips where very useful :) thank you
Thanks Mark! Great advice 😉👍
I have the Pro-100, I didn’t have a clue that there was a calibration tool for the monitor! Awesome information Mark! Thanks
Thanks for this video on printing; I’ve been looking for a video in this subject for a while. I think that is also useful advice for people who outsource their printing. I think if we can give a lab the best file possible, it’s going to produce the best results.
Great video Mark. Very informative. Thanks for sharing your experience with printing :)
Nice video Mark. Thats true!
When you print your photos, first time, the result don't be what you expect. But, when you resolve the problems, is a very joy look your photos on paper.
Is a very different thing, to look it on a monitor. When a photo are print, you can touch it.
When a photo is printed, that photo receives a value.
I print ever, all my best photos in 45x30 Centimeters and I will always continue to print them.
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Reeeally helpful, Mark. Thank you!
Hi Mark: This was an enjoyable video. I really enjoy the craft of printing my images and I would highly recommend this to anyone who really wants to be a 'true' photography. Cheers, Keith
Great info Mark. Stuff I never knew.
Excellent overview of printing!
Thanks Mark. I'm toying with the idea of printing my photos and this video helped Immensely.
Thanks again Mark. I've been seriously considering buying the same Canon printer and this video has taken a lot of the stress out of buying it. Definitely need to get a screen calibration device as well. Thanks again!
Glad to do it Dave - it's an amazing printer!
Thanks for the info Mark, going down that road at the moment, yes trial and error ....all good fun though.
Great tips. I have the Pro100 and Gfx50s and couldn’t agree more.
Loved the video about printing your images. The information was helpful. Please do more videos about printing. Do you do your own frame work for your prints also?
Yes I do print. I have the same printer as you and it is an amazing printer. Printing your photos is one of the most gratifying part of photography
Thank you I learned things about lightroom print module i needed to know. I watch this again so it sinks in.
Awesome and informative video as usual! Thanks Mark :)
Thanks so much!
I actually started to print my images on the same printer, the canon prograf 1000 and I tried maybe 20 different papers.
My 2 favorite papers are Canson platine fiber rag and hahnemuehle fineart baryta for color. For black and white Moab lasal exhibition luster and Canson Pro Luster. Fantastic papers, plenty of depth and details . I realize that printing is not just pushing the print button.
Thanks for the video Mark, it was really useful. It definitely feels like a black art at times that's for sure. Like many have said, I doubt I'd print that many prints to make it worthwhile - however, the thought of printing out that image and seeing the end product immediately is appealing...
Thanks for video.
Wow, my friend you’re killing with so much knowledge you’re sharing 🙏📸. I love watching your videos it’s very inspiring.. keep smashing 🙏
Another spot-on video, Mark! Great information, as always. Next time I'm up in the NC area I'd love to get together and talk shop, or go shoot.
For sure!
Very informative video...saved money for viewers..they don’t have to waste too many papers and ink...thanks
I am down to one sheet of paper per image print. Trick is in matching screen brightness to printer ( not auto brightness control - control your room brightness!) and of course profiling printer, paper and screen. Printing is almost anticlimactic now, but it sure save ink and paper!
Great information.
One of my early printing discoveries was putting the paper in upside down. Thought something was wrong with printer. Printed several photos before I realized it was a problem with the user. 😎. Thanks for another informative video.
That's a stunning shot.
I recently started printing my own photos and indeed it is very educational and a lot of fun. I started by ordering sample packages from different manufacturers to see the effect of paper on my photo and was, and still am, surprised of the effect of paper quality on the end results. For now my favorite is Edition etching rag from Canson, but I know that for future projects I need to go through this process again. Thanks for your insights and tips
I'll have to check that paper out - haven't used that one before.
I used to make a lot of these mistakes, and can't think of how much paper and ink I have wasted, but I don't why I didn't of making multiple test prints on a page before printing the bigger image. Will definitely try that next time I print. 👍
It was reassuring to know that prints were coming out dark for others before they too had an ha-ha moment. I do 4x6 to check my edited brightness and then use those to make gift cards. -Elaine J.
Awesome video. Very helpful
Thanks Steve!
Hi Mark, Mark here we even have the same printer ! Subscribed don't know how I haven't found you sooner ! Boy it's a nightmare printing, been doing it for years now always a surprise if a print comes out as expected ! All calibrated here Spyder pro 5, Fotospeed profiles in, but as soon as you press print its a heart in the mouth job . The number of maintenance cartridges and Ink the pro 1000 users ! A print always brings me back down to earth in photography terms ! 👍😍
Excellent!
Great printing Vlog, thanks for sharing
Of course - thanks Tony!
Thanks Mark, great video - appreciate yr. honesty on things (mistakes). It helps. Enjoy Kennab, Wish that I was joining you.
Thanks so much Merle!
There's always something useful in your videos.
Hi Mark Good video.. I would like to add if you don't mind.. I use the same printer and use Canon's own printing software "Professional Print & Layout". Also one thing I do is even though I did it in post processing. I zoom the photo just before it becomes pixelated. I do a final check for dust spots. pixel spots and chromatic abbreviation. Especially if shot is taken with a very bright background. Just to ensure final prints is good. You talked a about printer profiles. The easiest way I was described is as follow. Every paper absorbs ink in a different ratio. Even if they are all say Gloss or Semi Gloss. The printer profile will inform the printer who much ink to use for the print. Also using the canon printer software will tell you how much ink was used and the cost of the print. I also agree on trying different papers.. Also with Hahnemuehle they have a Certificate of Authenticity & Hologram System
www.hahnemuehle.com/en/digital-fineart/my-art-registry/certificate-of-authenticity.html (Hope you don't mind...)
amazing information Mark! I do print myself from last year but still struggling ..
Thanks Ryan - it can be a process for sure
very useful tips. thanks!
Thanks Shiva!
Calibrating your monitor is important. Also any time your change the lighting in the room or even repaint the room with a different color you will need to recal. I gave up printing my own years ago because I just don't print that often anymore and have been farming my work out to a pro lab for several years. The pro lab gave me their ICC Profile and have been extremely pleased with their work. When I put my image into their ROES for uploading it shows me how the print will look. Rather than increasing the exposure I opted to change the Blending Mode to SCREEN and typically adjust it to 20% and vibrance to 10%. By increasing the exposure I find that sometimes my highlights may clip. Everyone has their own methods and I am sure you are satisfied with yours.
Thank you Mark! very helpful, and I've had my eye on that printer for a year or more now. :)
Crossed my fingers before watching hoping I wasn’t doing anything I wasn’t supposed to! Haha. Nice video! Agree on all points, but goodness gracious you test print more than most I think! But good on you. I either lack patience or I’m color blind, cause minuscule changes seem just about impossible for me to notice and definitely impossible for my customers to notice.
If people getting into printing ask me questions about main points in printing I’m definitely sending them to this video! Nicely done, sir!
Awesome! Glad to hear this Jesse!
Excellent video on printing at home. Would love to see you expand on the topic for those of us who use photo labs. Thanks again.
All the same should apply! You just have to wait longer for test prints. But check your print labs icc profiles to soft proof before sending them off.
@@Smi77y1 thanks. I do have the ICC profiles.
Thanks Mark. As always a great video. Very helpful for using my printer. I was wondering what you may change up in the process if your sending it out for a larger print. How does one go about that and how do you find a good company to do the printing for you? Not just prints but maybe printing up a book or calendar. I see another video coming up on this issue. 👍🏻😃. Thanks for all your informative videos. I learn so much from you.
Great video! Nice to see someone talk more about printing more often. this was informative.
Thanks Andie - glad to hear it!
Thanks for sharing. I learnt alot! :)
Glad to hear this!