Thank you Megs Braap! I really like the way you explain each part of your clip in detail. It's very inspiring to see you take on these challenges and help other riders gain new skills. You have helped improve my riding quite a few times now, so THANK YOU and keep up the good work.
I too was a short rider (5'6"). Been searching on youtube about this trick (for short rider) and surprised i would simply learn it from a lady. Thanks you so much!
This is tricky for shorter riders. I'm 6'4" so I have a huge advantage when doing this. I used this technique often in the woods whenever a trail just kind of ended or got a little too ugly to continue. It was a quick way to turn around and 35 years ago my friends found it to be pretty entertaing. I also used it on some hillclimbs if I had no intention of going to the top.
I'm 5'6 with short legs and I've been practicing this on my Surron X electric dirtbike. Along with it being a much smaller bike, having the rear brake lever be where the clutch normally is on an ICE bike helps a lot.
Being tall for enduro is a huge advantage by just being able to walk the bike. Motocross is a different story where you constantly have momentum to keep it upright.
I got really good at theese (im 16, and i ride a yamaha dt 125) Thinvs that helped me 1.Cover the rear brake(and focus on using it when you go over the balance point) 2.GET THE BIKE TO THE BALANCE POINT(THIS WILL HELP YOU A LOT) 3.Compress the forks as much as you can with your foot on the back brake and as it rebounds (USE AS LITTLE THROTTLE AS YOU CAN) 4.Sit all the way back on the seat 5.PRACTICE There you go a few tips from me that really helped me😀
I think the only difference between short and tall people for pivot turns is where your butt is at. Im 5'9 and i can keep my butt right on the back of the seat when doing pivot turns. However for shorter people they cant do that so the butt needs to come off of the seat so that their foot can touch the ground. This means that they will have less control of the bike due to their weight being on the ground rather than on the bike. Great vid tho i look forward to more.
Your (no clutch) wheelie vid was excellent, this one is even better and a display of dogged determination. I'm really struggling with pivot turns, left is ok, right is a nightmare. For me it's a confidence / commitment thing. Riding into a small bank or step (kicker), with both feet on the pegs and using the suspension to lift and turn - fall, is helping me progress. I don't have to worry about the clutch timing and bite. Balance and bodyweight in both directions seems to be the key. Awesome vids Megs, your perspective and tenacity out shines many big names sharing how to vids. Thank you.
5'2" 69yr old here. I've been riding dirt bikes since before there were "dirt bikes". Still have not learned to pivot turn. Thank you for your videos. I also wear knee braces when I'm practicing this stuff. I buy the cheap hinge type off eBay and add a compression sleeve underneath.
@@TubolMotoadventures my main dirt bike is a crf230f that has a Kouba lowering link. I put a Hagan rear shock on it. Ordered that from England. The damper rods from the forks were sent to Bruce Triplett out in North Carolina. He welds up the holes and re drills different holes in different places according to your riding style and weight. I got a soft seat foam from Guts. If you call them they can make you an EXTRA soft seat foam. This helps get you lower and your thighs closer together when you put your feet down. I've done the open up mods and re jetted the carb. I found a 100/90 rear tire from CST that works well. I put on a Quiet Q slip on muffler. I went up one tooth on the primary sprocket because 1st gear was essentially useless and I ride in a lot of really tight trails and up any rocky old hill I come to. I think that's it. I'm now 70 and I've had 3 of these bikes. I'm currently building up a 1975 Yamaha MX400B for vintage motocross racing. That's not a tall bike at all. I ride a DR650SE Suzuki that has been lowered by factory settings and some Pro Cycle lowering links and soft seat foam. That's my daily driver. Hope this helps.
I'm starting to learn this with your video in mind, but damn it is difficult. Either I stall the bike, or I get to 45 degrees and back off. Main thing for me was learning to use the back brake. I felt today wasn't the day trying this for too long. After I launched my new 450 to the sky a couple of times and broke my number plate ( luckily a plexi glass reproduction plate ), I called it a day. I thought with the torque of the new 450 EXC-F this was going to be easy-peasy... I'm so jealous of you, but I will master this some day. Even if I'm 40 years old :)
Great Video! I'm still working on it but your tips are spot on. If I lose the rear brake I end up chasing it in a circle. Thanks for the short people tips!
She’s 100% on what she’s teaching but if your racing in the woods or riding hard with your friends you need to be able to do this with out moving fwd more than a foot. 12 inches. Tops!
Thanks for this great vid. When I watch the slowmo It looks like you're applying the back brake when you're compressing the front fork and then releasing the back brake when you've shifted back. Going to give this a go.
I gotta say, your fails are so good they look like a success. Nice work! You might try practicing the pivot turn from a standing position. 1) You can compress the suspension equally by jumping on both pegs, 2) you'll be in a rear brake position because your foot is on the peg, 3) I've never done this from a standing start. 4) that said, maybe you can only pivot 90 degrees with this method (I've done it, a long time ago), but it still might come in handy. Great videos, keep em coming. Cheers. :) P.S. you can throw your left leg out to make the rear end turn.
Very nice video, Meg. You and I talked about this not long ago via another of your videos. I'm also 5'3" (on a KTM 200XC) with 28" inseam and never imagined it possible. After you and I talked, I was going to ask you to post a video of it. Thanks a bunch! Time to go practice...
i usually don't worry about the rear brake as much as timing and preloading, obviously it's good to have it covered and tap when necessary but when pivoting the other direction you can't cover the brake anyways and it's still %100 possible to do a pivot that way.
Thanks for this. I have no problem with these on the Vino scooter I think it's because I have that LHRB, practicing on the TTR, the big bike is scary, these videos showing a smaller rider practicing these techniques are VERY helpful!
Hello Meg's brap, thanks for your expeditious responses, very enlightening. I appreciate it thanks for letting us into your world and I think your world is awesome. If you are ever in New Jersey I have a 1 + mile Motocross track , 12 or so jumps and stuff if that suits you. If not I think there's plenty of Hare Scramble stuff as well. Don't be shy honey bunny. Otherwise keep it up. Braaap, brap, brap,,,, pause, braap, as u land
Hey Meg's, nice work. Also, while you are short and skilled, I am old and broken (and maybe packing around 35 extra pounds...). Your tips help the fat old guys too .🤣 Thanks
Good video and instruction, even for those not so short, A left hand rear brake would help you a lot for this and other things. An issue I have is attempting this with a recluse, it’s just very hard to time exactly when the clutch plates will grab and you don’t want to give to much throttle or the bike will launch to the moon. The same with obstacles, as much as I love the recluse for flowy trail there are deficiencies when it comes to timing a take off, at least in my opinion but maybe there’s a technique I haven’t figured out yet. Any input from anyone would be appreciated.
Thank you for your knowledge! I will try to do it with my new electric Sur-Ron dirtbike. I think it will be easier than with a petrol bike, because Sur-Ron has both brake levers on the handlebar like bicycle. It is possible to try to make a turn in any direction. But this bike has no clutch. I hope that my bike will not go far away from me.))
I'm 5'6, and getting on my bike is like mounting a horse. I swear the manufacturers make bikes tall so retailers can sell lowering links. For my YZ250fx and WR450f, they tried HARD to sell me lowering links and trimmed seats. It's been 7 years and I've done just fine
Very helpful but have you considered tapping your front brake to help compress the forks and get the tire off the ground Abit easier and faster it was an old trick some body told me for trying to wheelie less powerful bikes easier when because I never weighed much and always had trouble compressing my forks due to being small which made bumping my forks super exhausting in his words "why waste all that energy when when the bike can do it for you???"
You keep on raising the bar, you're awesome. What's your take on putting a Clake two clutch and break leaver to make those turns. Would it be easier than pressing the rear brake with your foot. I always hated the rear foot break and wished it would be more like a mountain bike.
Thank you Megs. I love how you explain stuff and also show that you struggle like us mortals too. I don't know if you have anything suitable, but are you able to show this on a less focussed bike, maybe a dualsport DR or somit, as I am struggling to pop the front on my Beta alp 4.0? :-)
Another great video megs! I know it's not popular but I use a rekluse clutch I can do a pivot turn sometimes very easy sometimes not so much I think it's got a lot to do with my timing. My question is can you do this maneuver without the clutch
I'm 5'7 205 lbs. 17 300 XC-W. Ive lowered my bike internally 20mm. Is yours lowered at all? If not, thats very impressive. I have been working on this technique. Excellent video. I can also see you are using the front brake lever slightly to help compress the forks then release and start adding throttle. Nice job!
Could you show this on a new 250 or same size bike? I have a new wr250f, and I am wondering how I can keep my foot on the brake when I am off the bike to get the bike moving.
So Megs, another great tutorial. Just wondering, does this mean us shorter legged folks won't be able to do pivots to the right like I've seen from greats like Graham Jarvis or Cody Webb do to rear brake requirments? Cheers.
Bryan McDonald No haha we can. We can do anything. Pivot turning to the right just takes more control and precision. I think it is easiest to start learning it to left.
hi iv got a kmx 125 and like most 2stroke 125s it lacks in bottom end torque do you have any tips me as i need to put on a lot more throttle and i am worried about shooting me and the bike into orbit. cheers
I have asked this ? on a couple other subscription's I have with no reply, what makes the 2stroke better over a 4 on trails? Is it the gearing? I've ridden 2strokes in past and it was all or nothing, I've always had 4 strokes but I will be purchasing a new bike in a few months and don't want to regret buying a 2 stroke, please convince me
Two strokes can be all Torque and Low RPM power such as in a Trials bike . They can be all High RPM Top end power such as in a Road race bike.. They can have power in the Middle such as an Enduro Bike . They can have both good mid range and top end power.. with a Power Valve in the exhaust .. Main advantage of a Two stroke is lighter weight and more power for a given CC displacement .. Cost Less much easier to rebuild .. Need rebuilds far more often .. You need to ask knowledgeable people or find a trusted knowledgeable sales Man . I would say many young salesmen don't know much and will just try and BS you . May factors cost weight reliability .. MPG @Terry Wilson Also brand of the bike .. Harley Davidson is supposed to have an Adventure touring bike in 2020.. I'll bet it will weight 600#
Say for a KTM 250 4stroke vs 2 stroke, few kg difference in weight, but the weight distribution (in terms of CG) of 2stroke is way down. Hence making it more nimble, easier to control, can feel the difference immediately when you go on the bikes. I ride a 250 4 stroke, much better FC.
Thanks for the feed back on which is better, 2 or 4 stroke, a buddy of mine who is much younger whom I do some cross country racing with says a 2 stroke is harder to handle and will wear me out faster, I'm 50 years old and not in good shape, but trying to get better, I think I will stick with a 4 stroke, yz250fx is what I have in mind, it's got a 6 speed tran with low gearing in 1&2, thanks again for your feed back and go ride
I'm 6'1" and if I did this video it'd be "How to launch your bike into the trees - for tall people"
Ha!
first pivot turn video i have seen by a short person ,Bravo !
passa dal mio canale i sono alto 1,68 ;-)
Znam ja bolje hahahahh
I find turning your head and looking into the turn helps a lot
Agreed. Def anything motorcycle related looking to where you want to go is key, from corners to doing pivot turns.
These videos are so helpful being a short rider Just starting out in dirt biking 👍🏻
Yeah me to :)
How do you feel being so helpful and encouraging to others? Such a great attitude you have!
Thank you Megs Braap! I really like the way you explain each part of your clip in detail. It's very inspiring to see you take on these
challenges and help other riders gain new skills. You have helped improve my riding quite a few times now, so THANK YOU and keep up the good work.
I too was a short rider (5'6"). Been searching on youtube about this trick (for short rider) and surprised i would simply learn it from a lady. Thanks you so much!
Great to see a pivot turn explained in detail for short riders. I watch my fellow rider pivot turn as a learner very easily due to his long legs.
This is tricky for shorter riders. I'm 6'4" so I have a huge advantage when doing this. I used this technique often in the woods whenever a trail just kind of ended or got a little too ugly to continue. It was a quick way to turn around and 35 years ago my friends found it to be pretty entertaing. I also used it on some hillclimbs if I had no intention of going to the top.
I'm 5'6 with short legs and I've been practicing this on my Surron X electric dirtbike. Along with it being a much smaller bike, having the rear brake lever be where the clutch normally is on an ICE bike helps a lot.
Being tall for enduro is a huge advantage by just being able to walk the bike. Motocross is a different story where you constantly have momentum to keep it upright.
I appreciate how detailed you get into the analysis. Really cool videos.
Best pivot turn video I've seen so far
Brillant video. Totally real, short people, keep it up megs. Still trying to get the wheelie mastered, using your last video. Very helpfull,
If you had a rear brake lever on your handlebar you'd master this technique. Good work! I believe Rekluse has rear brake set ups for hand control.
I got really good at theese (im 16, and i ride a yamaha dt 125)
Thinvs that helped me
1.Cover the rear brake(and focus on using it when you go over the balance point)
2.GET THE BIKE TO THE BALANCE POINT(THIS WILL HELP YOU A LOT)
3.Compress the forks as much as you can with your foot on the back brake and as it rebounds (USE AS LITTLE THROTTLE AS YOU CAN)
4.Sit all the way back on the seat
5.PRACTICE
There you go a few tips from me that really helped me😀
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I think the only difference between short and tall people for pivot turns is where your butt is at. Im 5'9 and i can keep my butt right on the back of the seat when doing pivot turns. However for shorter people they cant do that so the butt needs to come off of the seat so that their foot can touch the ground. This means that they will have less control of the bike due to their weight being on the ground rather than on the bike. Great vid tho i look forward to more.
Your (no clutch) wheelie vid was excellent, this one is even better and a display of dogged determination. I'm really struggling with pivot turns, left is ok, right is a nightmare. For me it's a confidence / commitment thing. Riding into a small bank or step (kicker), with both feet on the pegs and using the suspension to lift and turn - fall, is helping me progress. I don't have to worry about the clutch timing and bite. Balance and bodyweight in both directions seems to be the key. Awesome vids Megs, your perspective and tenacity out shines many big names sharing how to vids. Thank you.
You'll rarely see anyone pivot turn to the right, simply because the back brake is not available...
@@TractioneRag And by some mystery of physics, gravity seems to be much heavier on the right. It's my favourite direction to fall off.
5'2" 69yr old here. I've been riding dirt bikes since before there were "dirt bikes". Still have not learned to pivot turn. Thank you for your videos. I also wear knee braces when I'm practicing this stuff. I buy the cheap hinge type off eBay and add a compression sleeve underneath.
We are about same height.. What dirt bike are u riding? Did you lower it to touch the ground?
@@TubolMotoadventures my main dirt bike is a crf230f that has a Kouba lowering link. I put a Hagan rear shock on it. Ordered that from England. The damper rods from the forks were sent to Bruce Triplett out in North Carolina. He welds up the holes and re drills different holes in different places according to your riding style and weight. I got a soft seat foam from Guts. If you call them they can make you an EXTRA soft seat foam. This helps get you lower and your thighs closer together when you put your feet down. I've done the open up mods and re jetted the carb. I found a 100/90 rear tire from CST that works well. I put on a Quiet Q slip on muffler. I went up one tooth on the primary sprocket because 1st gear was essentially useless and I ride in a lot of really tight trails and up any rocky old hill I come to. I think that's it. I'm now 70 and I've had 3 of these bikes. I'm currently building up a 1975 Yamaha MX400B for vintage motocross racing. That's not a tall bike at all. I ride a DR650SE Suzuki that has been lowered by factory settings and some Pro Cycle lowering links and soft seat foam. That's my daily driver. Hope this helps.
I'm 6'1" and this was very helpful for me!
I'm starting to learn this with your video in mind, but damn it is difficult. Either I stall the bike, or I get to 45 degrees and back off.
Main thing for me was learning to use the back brake. I felt today wasn't the day trying this for too long. After I launched my new 450 to the sky a couple of times and broke my number plate ( luckily a plexi glass reproduction plate ), I called it a day.
I thought with the torque of the new 450 EXC-F this was going to be easy-peasy... I'm so jealous of you, but I will master this some day. Even if I'm 40 years old :)
Great tips thanks Megs. Such a great skill to have. Thanks to you I have now mastered it after 20 years of riding!!!
Great Video! I'm still working on it but your tips are spot on. If I lose the rear brake I end up chasing it in a circle. Thanks for the short people tips!
She’s 100% on what she’s teaching but if your racing in the woods or riding hard with your friends you need to be able to do this with out moving fwd more than a foot. 12 inches. Tops!
Thank you every other video are 6’-4” riders which makes this EASY!
Thanks for this great vid. When I watch the slowmo It looks like you're applying the back brake when you're compressing the front fork and then releasing the back brake when you've shifted back. Going to give this a go.
I gotta say, your fails are so good they look like a success. Nice work! You might try practicing the pivot turn from a standing position. 1) You can compress the suspension equally by jumping on both pegs, 2) you'll be in a rear brake position because your foot is on the peg, 3) I've never done this from a standing start. 4) that said, maybe you can only pivot 90 degrees with this method (I've done it, a long time ago), but it still might come in handy. Great videos, keep em coming. Cheers. :) P.S. you can throw your left leg out to make the rear end turn.
Very nice video, Meg. You and I talked about this not long ago via another of your videos. I'm also 5'3" (on a KTM 200XC) with 28" inseam and never imagined it possible. After you and I talked, I was going to ask you to post a video of it. Thanks a bunch! Time to go practice...
5'8" dude . Thank you for the awesome video!
Great vid. There’s hope for the little guy yet. Really enjoy your tutorials
Good video, some say it's never too late to learn, maybe I should try this
Thanks Megs have good life and be save during on bike
I'm totally gonna cheat and install a LHRB KIT... Lol. Awesome video as usual Meg's 🤘🤘👊
i usually don't worry about the rear brake as much as timing and preloading, obviously it's good to have it covered and tap when necessary but when pivoting the other direction you can't cover the brake anyways and it's still %100 possible to do a pivot that way.
Thanks for this. I have no problem with these on the Vino scooter I think it's because I have that LHRB, practicing on the TTR, the big bike is scary, these videos showing a smaller rider practicing these techniques are VERY helpful!
Thanks I am working on pivot turns.
I'm still working on trying to get the front wheel off the ground from your wheelie Video 🤔🤪
Hello Meg's brap, thanks for your expeditious responses, very enlightening. I appreciate it thanks for letting us into your world and I think your world is awesome. If you are ever in New Jersey I have a 1 + mile Motocross track , 12 or so jumps and stuff if that suits you. If not I think there's plenty of Hare Scramble stuff as well. Don't be shy honey bunny. Otherwise keep it up. Braaap, brap, brap,,,, pause, braap, as u land
Hey Meg's, nice work. Also, while you are short and skilled, I am old and broken (and maybe packing around 35 extra pounds...). Your tips help the fat old guys too .🤣 Thanks
Well done and explained. Many thanks!
Inspiring Megs Braap!! ❤😊
Great tips for short people love It
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Here we go again. Another good video for short legged people. 😂
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Good video and instruction, even for those not so short, A left hand rear brake would help you a lot for this and other things. An issue I have is attempting this with a recluse, it’s just very hard to time exactly when the clutch plates will grab and you don’t want to give to much throttle or the bike will launch to the moon. The same with obstacles, as much as I love the recluse for flowy trail there are deficiencies when it comes to timing a take off, at least in my opinion but maybe there’s a technique I haven’t figured out yet. Any input from anyone would be appreciated.
I just wish I had a grass field to practice them. I hate doing them in the rocks. Lol
Thank you for your knowledge! I will try to do it with my new electric Sur-Ron dirtbike. I think it will be easier than with a petrol bike, because Sur-Ron has both brake levers on the handlebar like bicycle. It is possible to try to make a turn in any direction. But this bike has no clutch. I hope that my bike will not go far away from me.))
5'1 here & really struggle to keep my foot on the rear brake while my left foot is on the ground! Gaaargh!!!!
It is a hard skill for sure. A 'trials bike only' move for me at this point.
im also a short rider, at about 5 foot 9, BUT i also suffer from long body short legs syndrome :( and i feel ur pain. thanks for the tips.
For short riders be careful about that left knee(in the video her left) hyperextending with the hop when you pop your clutch
Yup you said it trying new skills. "Easy? Not so much"
I got a Long way to go for Shorty.
看MB的视频就好像自己练车，会的那一刻真是欣喜异常
^^^^^^^^ What he said.
Very awesome way to teach.
Can you told me how many time you take to learn it pivot turn ?
I'm 5'6, and getting on my bike is like mounting a horse. I swear the manufacturers make bikes tall so retailers can sell lowering links. For my YZ250fx and WR450f, they tried HARD to sell me lowering links and trimmed seats. It's been 7 years and I've done just fine
very tricky tip..would be nice to learn for shorter people!
Thanks for the detailed explanations. Very didatic
The left foot hop is important
Great vid Megs 🤙
Good stuff Megs!
Very helpful but have you considered tapping your front brake to help compress the forks and get the tire off the ground Abit easier and faster it was an old trick some body told me for trying to wheelie less powerful bikes easier when because I never weighed much and always had trouble compressing my forks due to being small which made bumping my forks super exhausting in his words "why waste all that energy when when the bike can do it for you???"
You keep on raising the bar, you're awesome. What's your take on putting a Clake two clutch and break leaver to make those turns. Would it be easier than pressing the rear brake with your foot. I always hated the rear foot break and wished it would be more like a mountain bike.
It is living and exciting to watch MB practicing , feel like doing it myself
What about when you have to pivot to the right when doing steep switchbacks?
K Lin keep turning left and do a 270! 😂
No rear brake just body weight and control of your clutch and throttle 😉
Sounds like a kiss yer azz good by moment ta me !
I want to see video angles of all the skills with the brake and clutching perspective shown. I. Don’t always get to hear it in the videos
Thank you Megs. I love how you explain stuff and also show that you struggle like us mortals too. I don't know if you have anything suitable, but are you able to show this on a less focussed bike, maybe a dualsport DR or somit, as I am struggling to pop the front on my Beta alp 4.0? :-)
Thank you rider! Really nice expplanation! I will suscribe and hope enjoyning all your videos!
I cant wait to ride my bike again and do pivot turns
Another great video megs! I know it's not popular but I use a rekluse clutch I can do a pivot turn sometimes very easy sometimes not so much I think it's got a lot to do with my timing. My question is can you do this maneuver without the clutch
Fantastic info!
I don't think I've ever touched my rear brake doing a pivot turn. 6ft tall must make it way easier. My daughter Britney is gonna learn this tomorrow.
Is there like some threshold height, where pivot turns become easy?
Thanks Meg 🤜🤛
Congratulations for your channel. Did you prepare or modificate your suspension?
I'm 5'7 205 lbs. 17 300 XC-W. Ive lowered my bike internally 20mm. Is yours lowered at all? If not, thats very impressive. I have been working on this technique. Excellent video. I can also see you are using the front brake lever slightly to help compress the forks then release and start adding throttle. Nice job!
Bikemancody Yes, my suspension I lowered as well. My bike is lowered by 1 inch all around.
Could you show this on a new 250 or same size bike? I have a new wr250f, and I am wondering how I can keep my foot on the brake when I am off the bike to get the bike moving.
am a short and new rider , in bc, thanks for the tips, as a new rider when can i start to learn this tecnique?
Nice skill !!
Great video. Thank you!
Great tutorial!
What transmission gear are you in and what F&R sprockets sizes are you using?
where did you get that cool plastic?
Yea ! I THINK I'll OP-IN for the LEG EXTENSIONS !!!!.... GREAT LESSON ....
Hi megs im one of you solid follower.
is it required to learn wheelie first in order to do this?
And what about pivoting to the right then?
I have no right leg and no rear brake. So a video how to do it to the right would be really interesting. 😉
Came here from Barry's gumby cross-train channel. Am also a short person.
이 영상 보고 도움이 너무 많이 됐습니다. 누님 스텐딩 저속 윌리도 알려주심 안될까요?
So Megs, another great tutorial. Just wondering, does this mean us shorter legged folks won't be able to do pivots to the right like I've seen from greats like Graham Jarvis or Cody Webb do to rear brake requirments? Cheers.
Bryan McDonald No haha we can. We can do anything. Pivot turning to the right just takes more control and precision.
I think it is easiest to start learning it to left.
Hi megs, did you lower your bike a little? i have yz250fx and it is impossible for me to reach the ground.. I'm 5'1" Tall
Awesome girl!
hi iv got a kmx 125 and like most 2stroke 125s it lacks in bottom end torque do you have any tips me as i need to put on a lot more throttle and i am worried about shooting me and the bike into orbit. cheers
Very good video, thanks!!!
What size bike do you ride? New to dirt bikes so I can’t tell
i'm having so much trouble compressing my forks. What weight are your running in your fork fluid?
must get left foot front.(shift lever side)
Meg RESPECT !!! :-)
I have asked this ? on a couple other subscription's I have with no reply, what makes the 2stroke better over a 4 on trails? Is it the gearing? I've ridden 2strokes in past and it was all or nothing, I've always had 4 strokes but I will be purchasing a new bike in a few months and don't want to regret buying a 2 stroke, please convince me
Two strokes can be all Torque and Low RPM power such as in a Trials bike . They can be all High RPM Top end power such as in a Road race bike.. They can have power in the Middle such as an Enduro Bike . They can have both good mid range and top end power.. with a Power Valve in the exhaust ..
Main advantage of a Two stroke is lighter weight and more power for a given CC displacement .. Cost Less much easier to rebuild .. Need rebuilds far more often ..
You need to ask knowledgeable people or find a trusted knowledgeable sales Man . I would say many young salesmen don't know much and will just try and BS you .
May factors cost weight reliability .. MPG @Terry Wilson Also brand of the bike .. Harley Davidson is supposed to have an Adventure touring bike in 2020.. I'll bet it will weight 600#
depends on the weight, 2 stroker is always more light and nimble
Sounds like you may have been on MX 2 strokes?
Say for a KTM 250 4stroke vs 2 stroke, few kg difference in weight, but the weight distribution (in terms of CG) of 2stroke is way down. Hence making it more nimble, easier to control, can feel the difference immediately when you go on the bikes.
I ride a 250 4 stroke, much better FC.
Thanks for the feed back on which is better, 2 or 4 stroke, a buddy of mine who is much younger whom I do some cross country racing with says a 2 stroke is harder to handle and will wear me out faster, I'm 50 years old and not in good shape, but trying to get better, I think I will stick with a 4 stroke, yz250fx is what I have in mind, it's got a 6 speed tran with low gearing in 1&2, thanks again for your feed back and go ride
One question Meg..Is your bike lowered/
I can’t seem to keep my feet on the pegs and brake 😞