Nah. Our biggest rival is and always will be South Africa. So much history and respect between our 2 countries on the rugby field. Ireland are a great team and deserve the praise that they have earned. But the All Blacks vs the Springboks is another level.
Would you stop it all the comments in the last couple weeks when it’s a preview of New Zealand and Ireland? It’s full of South Africans praising New Zealand and practically ask them to be their girlfriend and hold their hand hand you support each other that’s not a rivalry. You need pure hatred to have rivalry which from judging by the lately that’s exactly what you’re doing to Ireland you actually hate them for just existing now and rugby it’s hilarious who cares who wins this stage on Friday all y’all seem to care about is commenting on Annie anything to do with Ireland and supporting South Africa
Part of Ireland's newborn excitement for Rugby? Of course THEIR biggest rival is the All Blacks? NO OTHER TEAM has a bigger WIN RATE OVER Ireland than the ALL BLACKS. AS the BIG DOG of Rugby, we get the occasional DOG HAS IT'S DAY moments. The only other big dog we've had trouble with over the DECADES ?, has been THE BOKKA.
@ I sincerely hope you actually listen to the video before you replied to us. It was a click Bas video and look at what you’ve done. You’ve gone off and lost your mind completely.
It’s a really nice fresh rivalry, not within a million miles of the greatest historical rivalry but there is an argument to say it’s the best current one…just based on results alone 🤷🏼♂️
South Africa?? The team that got handed the RWC by the referee lol and food poisoned the whole entire All Blacks team in the 92 final RWC 😂😂😂🤌🤌 And then run away to the European rugby comp cos they could never beat the Nz teams in super rugby 😂😂
@ yeah, but if you go back to the last four or five years, I think Ireland have beaten New Zealand more also Ireland only became decent at rugby in the last five or six years naturally a legacy country like New Zealand would have one more games Ireland also only turned professional in the late 2000s and in the 90s we could barely feel the team considering the troubles that were on a northern art and then the Republic so you do the math
As a kiwi, Speingboks v All blacks is the biggest rivalry. Both teams have been playing each other for over 100 years. Back wheb teams would tour each others country. Its good to see teams like Ireland step up massively on the big stage. It gives the international game some good competition. I remember ireland beating us in USA and they played beautiful running rugby. They have gotten even better since. Argentina are also stepping up big time as well. The international game is heading in a good direction.
I don’t think you can call it arrival when all you guys do seem to support each other go look at all the comments over the Ireland and New Zealand preview games. It’s full sad Africans in the comments showing their love further kiiwi brothers and how proud they would be if they beat Ireland that’s not rivalry that’s practically asking them to be your wife.
All blacks and Springboks have a unique rivalry. Lots of history together that involves politics, protests and lots of quality rugby. For decades both teams were keeping the game alive, especially before the game turned professional. There's big respect between both teams and both sets of fans show it to each other. Both countries are one of the few that has rugby as it's number one sport and has been for manys years. I like to see the Springboks win against other teams but that's because they have been strong competitors and produced quality rugby for NZ people to watch and enjoy for many generations.
AB's and Boks will always be a great rivalry. But it is great to see Ireland get included with both these countries now. Love watching the Boks teams in the URC now too,
The greatest rivalry is between SA,/NZ, Australia and NZ. Ireland has never made a World Cup final , the Southern Hemisphere teams have won 8 between them, and have figured in every final since inception of the world championship
Ireland need to beat or at least meet New Zealand in a RWC final to even begin those "Biggest rivalry" conversations. Or have have a decent win percentage vs the ABs at least. SA v NZ is still the most fierce rivalry. For many reasons now and historically.
Historically, agreed. For now? Boks have won the last four games against the AB's. Ireland have won the last four out of five against the Boks! Maybe have a rethink?
If you guys are convinced that these two points you both brought forward is enough to warrant it being called the greatest rivalry, then we'll have greatest rivalries every 5 years in rugby amongst different teams.
G’day All - Kiwi here - SA still our biggest rival for me, mostly due to our ferocious history IN Saying that, this games to close to call and the ABs will have to play their game of the year to get past this mob - looking forward to another close epic encounter Cheers all
Well it has been for the last few years any Ireland game lately whether it’s Ireland France,Ireland South Africa or Ireland vs all blacks do be out and out ground wars carnage and bodies everywhere.
Eng vs All Blacks was 3 good tries to the ABs versus a lucky intercept - that was the guts of the game - feel free to glorify penalties and drop kicks but its not the core of that game which Eng did not deserve to win.
Hi team. Good show. Just one comment on NZ defense. When most people say their defense isn’t that great, and they people watch pretty much all the time, no line speed etc… I guess I watching it differently. I don’t think anyone can argue that NZ has always been, by far, the best at instantly transitioning defensive into attack. I don’t think a super aggressive line speed suits them for a very simple reason. it leaves your back line ahead of the breakdown if you disrupt their ball, then your strike players have to get back on side in order to strike. This way they can defend well without having to expend sh*t tons of energy every single phase running shuttles back and forth. Then wait for the right time to go for a turnover. And there can’t be a coincidence that, more than any other team, most of the time when they transition defensively to attack, they know exactly where to strike on a turnover because they’re taking notes of their opponents positioning. In my mind this for 2 reasons. They back themselves to hold teams out even if it’s rush dominance, then give up three points if it’s near their line, In order to get a turn over. Then, by previously being player focused on defense, they know exactly where to strike immediately. Anyway, not saying your point of view is wrong, what do I know, but just how I see it. The difference at the moment is that this NZ team is not at its usual peak. Nice work boys.
That title was clickbait for people like you. It works, doesn't it? If you watch the video, the panel just said SA were a better team than Ireland. But, of course, you're looking for a strawman.
@ no. One of those clowns was trying to assert the no 1 status based on world rankings. Its pains them that the rest of the rugby world just ignores their no 1 ranking as its obvious they not the no 1 team.
Sorry lads, the springboks are our greatest rival as it goes back a fair number of years. Ireland are strong but got their first win after over 100 years against the All Blacks only a few years ago. Uo the mighty All Blacks 🖤
Yeah what NZ did at cricket in India a couple of days ago was a bigger achievement than what Ireland did they beat NZ 2-1 we beat India 3-0 the first time they have ever been whitewashed in a 3 match test series at home by any country if Ireland had won 3-0 then it would've been right up there beating India 3-0 in India is like beating the ABs 3-0 in NZ
At the WC NZ scrum coach Greg Feeke said in an article that he watched 100's of hours looking for a weakness in the Ireland scrum, the outcome of that was a word from NZ to Wayne Barnes to watch out for Porter not scrummaging straight, clearly the multiple penalties against Porter had an impact on the result. Small details to swing a game
geoffnelson6756 You would of lost either way goofball lol y’all are cocky for no reason 😂 check the receipts kid numbers don’t lie Over emotional ego tripping leprechauns do
@Trajan2401 Rubbish, how can 'it' catch up with him, playing for club and Country with numerous referees if he was repeatedly doing something illegal it would get picked up regularly, I searched Google for Porter and scrummaging and hey presto Eddie Jones tried the same ploy in the 6 nations just a few years ago, also Mike Ross and Alex Corbisiero both said Porter was not at fault and should have won at least 2 of the scrum penalties, refs just look for certain markers and if something is highlighted then that will attract his focus, it was a gamesmanship masterclass by NZ and potentially swung the game.
England lofting a high ball from a free kick inside the AB"s 22 sums up the impotence of the English attack. I cant understand why they did not just tap and go and keep possession for a few phases to try and get over the line. Their attack looked good against Ireland and France last 6 Nations. Now they have reverted to penalty kicks and drop goal attempts. The wonderful try they scored came about fortuitously from an intercept. Otherwise they never threatened the AB's try line. If you are relying on penalties and drop goals you will lose 9 times out ten against the AB's.
@@tvpc3194NZ too busy kicking ass in other sports you see on the international scene we can change channels from one sport to another since we are strong in all our main sports 😁 🇳🇿
After the 2nd World Cup win in a row the All Blacks began the long process of rebuilding, some players retired some went overseas to play, since then we have lost lots of games, including first losses to Ireland and Argentina, the reality is Ireland have a great side right now, and should win the upcoming game as I believe they are the better side, atm. Great teams take time to build, Ireland would really put their stamp on their greatness by winning the next World Cup, and then they will experince what all other great teams that rebuild experience.
@@Trajan2401 no that’s complete ridiculous I mean it’s absolutely hideous all of the comments on this common section. I’m going to say it’s about 90% South Africans or people from New Zealand. It’s crazy. I bet you didn’t even listen to the whole video. You just looked at the title and started commenting on the rivalry, they didn’t actually mention, that at all in the video just go onto your own pages
How ironic the opposition love to accuse NZ of poaching yet most of them have more foreigners than NZ who only had 1 in the starting lineup against England
stephendoherty981 All born and raised in Nz dip shiiit NZ is a island in the pacific fkn genius 😂😂 They didn’t grow up play all their rugby to adulthood in another country like the kiwis in Ireland did 😂😂 they moved to Ireland fully grown men you fkn goose lol ABs have been the best for 100 years won the first RWC in 87 you tell how me many islanders were in the ABs then Waldo 😂😂 Probably about 5 in about 60 years of rugby domination and still today FOH kid BORN AND RAISED BIIITCH
Ireland want to be involved in the biggest rivalry talk so bad 😂 you’re a ways to go before you’ll ever come close to the All Blacks-Springboks rivalry.
Why are all of you in the comments? I think there’s more South Africans in New Zealand people in the comments and there is Irish people desperate to find relevance. They’re literally playing in three days time. It couldn’t be more relevant.
Ireland only came up to standard in the 2000's. It's a bit unfair. Did that make Man City shit prior to their champions league win. Enjoy the present ffs. If you want to think back 40/50 years, then England vs. Scotland would my vote for rivalry
garthedwards7346 Here some more numbers for yah champ 105 test matches played Nz won 62 SA won 38 --- 37 test matches played Nz won 31 Ireland won 5 😳😳
These guys need a history lesson , they win one series in NZ ,next minute they think they been doing it for the last hundred years , last time I checked the record ,win/lose stats didn't look like Ireland had any numbers of consequence
johnmackie1518 37 games Nz won 31 Ireland won 5 😳😂😂 Anybody would think Ireland beaten Nz 50 times or something 😂😂 these little people are unbelievable lol
They like to hark on about winning the series in NZ yet NZ achieved something even bigger a couple of days ago when they whitewashed India at cricket 3-0 in India which no other country has ever done its equivalent to beating the All Blacks 3-0 in NZ you won't see us going on about that as much as the irish winning in NZ
The Southern Hemisphere will always rate themselves first. It's just a hangover from being the 'New' World boys. If the kiwis and Saffas tried a few different sports, they might not be so cocky. Lol. I think as an Irish fan, with vast majority of our folks involved in GAA and Soccer, I think we are well in the conversation over past 5-10 years as a top 3 team and in reality, there is nothing between anyone of SA, NZ, IRE and FRA on a given day, ENG coming back into the fold and ARG & AUS not far behind. Should be a great game, I reckon it will be very close, but yeah. ill go Ireland by 2/3 points.
Haha “are these just two poor teams” maybe a World Cup finalist and semi finalist, something I know Irish pundits arent too familiar with given their wcs end fairly quickly
Ireland has only become a rugby powerhouse lately. These all time stats are meaningless. It's like looking at Man City's record since they first started and drawing the conclusion that they are also rans
@FR-je9bw Shuddup kid you are really delusional aren’t you?? You don’t just cut history off where you think it’s appropriate for you and your little team 😂😂😂 It doesn’t work like that kid you got some growing to do 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️😂😂 bringing up Manchester who?? You are seriously deluded lady lol
Ireland trying to force their relevance off the back of a few years of reasonable performance. Boks/ABs rivalry represents 100 years of sustained excellence. Get a grip.
It’s not arrival when you’re always practically trying to kiss each other in the comments that’s just being good friends with each other and wanting to love each other arrival is pure hatred
It's a clickbait title to generate views and engagement in this comment section to pump up the algorithm. It's RUclips 101. Nobody in Ireland is sat here thinking this is a great rivalry, I mean there's some recent beef which is great but Ireland have really only been at this level for a few years. The fact so many SH rugby fans came here to post these comments (without watching this podcast no doubt) and got so offended smacks of their arrogance. I mean how dare they suggest this, don't they know who we are?! We've won eleventy million world cups and being rank number one doesn't actually matter (unless Ireland lose then it'll suddenly start to matter again). Are there actual hordes of Irish fans commenting in SA rugby podcasts? I doubt it.
the Podcast read somebodys comment about madigan last week..went something along the lines of. "if you wanna be taken seriously as a podcast get madigan a new microphone
And when you play SA you say thats the biggest rivalry 😂 so what is it NZ or SA or both 😁 SA are our main rivals in rugby and Australia are our main rivals in all sports always has been.What people seem to forget is that England are no mugs they beat Ireland and only lost by 1 against SA the last time.As for the NZ v England game it would've been a travesty if England had won 3 tries and a disallowed try v 1 gifted try that came from an offside position
I want us to go back to number 1. I will be rooting for the All Blacks, even though I know that Ireland is going to defeat them. But the All Blacks tend to take it a notch up when they play against formidable opposition.
SA are probably the best but So far ahead of anyone else? 😂 you wouldnt lose to Argentina if you are so far ahead you are supposed to have depth and wouldnt win the world cup by only 1 against 13-14 players for an hour if you were so far ahead
When your number 1 in the world everyone wants to be your rival😅😅😅😅 what a joke...... everyone wants to beat the ABs they are the bench mark for rugby ...the ABs live rent free in Irish heads.
If South Africa were so far ahead of all the rest Joe, then they'd have won their home series 2-0 against an Irish side full of injuries. Yes they won the world cup, but how you can say they are far ahead of the rest when they struggle so much against Ireland is crazy.
If Ireland were so great they would be able to crack a semi. How can Ireland be the best when their "golden generation" progressed no further than any other Irish side in the RWC.
@@sandorclegane3658 In the grand scheme of things though that is one game that they lost. I'm not even advocating that Ireland are the best, I take issue with the idea that South Africa are so far ahead. All three of their knockout games were won by one point. One score less in any of those games and no one would be saying this stuff. There is more to rugby than the world cup and if Ireland do finally make it past a quarter final and God forbid maybe even win a world cup then it'll be interesting to see what everyone's excuse is then.
@@liamwilliams6651" just a knockout competition" "three one point wins" first, the RWC is literally what every rugby nation builds for, plays and aspires to win. Second, three one point wins all back to back, while taking the hardest route to the cup is nothing less than astounding. It showed immense grit, strength of mind and character, and I dare to say we will probably never see a more impressive feat. By your logic the six nations is just a round robin, big deal, and three of the teams, Scotland, wales and Italy, are hardly what anybody would describe as strong competition.
@@sandorclegane3658 Well done putting words in my mouth. Never said it was just a knockout competition. It is the pinnacle of the sport. But there's more to rugby than just 6 weeks every 4 years and knockout rugby doesn't always result in the best team winning and I'd argue round Robins usually do. The best team has actually rarely ever won the world cup I'd argue. Otherwise NZ would have won the majority of them. Some nerve to talk about Scotland, Italy and Wales like that when Australia and Argentina are the competition in the RC. All NZ have to do is beat SA and they have the competition in the bag.
@@liamwilliams6651 you're deluded as are most Irish fans and pundits. Barely even a tier one nation to be fair. Who would you rather face in a final, wales, Scotland, Italy or Australia, Argentina lmfao.
Christ with the dismissal of number 1 We beat saf in w cup. Lost to n.z by an inch. Beat saf in saf The dismissal of world number 1...is irritating. Sure world cup is more important but you can't do that through the years. There is an exagerated dismissal of number 1..... having supported ireand in 80s and 90s enjoy it...celebrate it. Pundits in this country were alongside 1 or 2 rules changes out biggest weaknesses in '19. Still havent matured to us being a top world rugby team. Team has, thankfully
While I don’t think the world rankings are everything, the dismissal of some Irish pundits is bizarre. By their logic, England in 2004 to 2007 were the best team in the world as they’d just won the world cup
This Ireland team are beyond impressive, beating SA in SA at the end of their season and the start of ours (yes I’m SAn) even once without Keenan, Sheehan, Bundee and a few others in forgetting is a great feat, so they deserve to be in the conversation for world number 1 for sure. I don’t think they get enough credit outside Europe but also sometimes get too much credit within it (to be fair I haven’t listened to this whole pod yet)
@@LarryLoudiniworld rankings show how consistent you are world cups you dont have to be the best just the best on the day a lot of luck involved a perfect example NZ winning the womans T20 world cup they are nowhere near the best in womans cricket Australia,England and India are just got lucky but that's world cups
Calling New Zealnd an average team means that you guys are below average cause the last time the two teams met you were taught a lesson. World Cups matter cause thats when it counts. When no one is experiementing and everyone gives their all.
Who are the "experimental" players that NZ will be fielding this weekend? Who were the "experimental" players that SA fielded against Ireland during the summer?
Hilarious that you even consider Ireland as part of the greatest rivalry. Your best players aren't from Ireland and when you get passed a QF you can consider yourself a top tier nation 👍🏻 You say that you have the AB number and you have the bok number. But most of these games are played in the autumn series where there is nothing to play for and southern hemisphere bleed young blood
The only player I can see being ranked in irelands top 8 that's foreign would be JGP Lowe isn't on the level of the front three back row or the Irish centres. I get not liking them but you feed the hype when you talk about a team disregarding logic 👍
Pretty funny how the metric for ireland to be considered "a good team" keeps shifting. Before it was just being able to beat NZ, then it was winning in NZ, one that was achieved (which SA haven't done in nearly 100 years) it's the QF. When the QF gets over come it'll be a WC and if we win a WC it'll be back to back WCs...
HAHA, Dont mention the All Blacks scored 3 exciting tries, and England one gift try. You northern hemisphere girls crow about winning games on penalties. Your game is soooo boring.
Wow , really? Ireland will win well, by 7 to 15 ? Geez someones confident. Typical irish pundant confidence huh...just like the world cup....endless reasons why they were supposedly superior 😂
Eh no I wouldn't agree with that. south africa are not number one in the world if we're being honest Ireland won both those tests down there. I dont like blaming refs but Luke pierce and Ian tempest caused a 7 point swing the wrong way. We are number one and we need to get comfortable with that we earned the title of the number one ranked team by smacking the world. Champions not just once but twice in their own home the record will show a drawn series but we won both of those games.
Biggest rivalry at the moment is ireland v boks ,,,biggest rivalry in rugby ,,boks v nz ,,,,ireland beaten boks 9 times in history ,,ireland beat nz 5 times ,,,ireland have never won a series in south africa ,,ireland have only won 1 series in new zealand ....
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Nah. Our biggest rival is and always will be South Africa. So much history and respect between our 2 countries on the rugby field. Ireland are a great team and deserve the praise that they have earned. But the All Blacks vs the Springboks is another level.
no you support each other thats not a rival lol
Would you stop it all the comments in the last couple weeks when it’s a preview of New Zealand and Ireland? It’s full of South Africans praising New Zealand and practically ask them to be their girlfriend and hold their hand hand you support each other that’s not a rivalry. You need pure hatred to have rivalry which from judging by the lately that’s exactly what you’re doing to Ireland you actually hate them for just existing now and rugby it’s hilarious who cares who wins this stage on Friday all y’all seem to care about is commenting on Annie anything to do with Ireland and supporting South Africa
@@SmcdMcd-d2kwell basically the only side we really care about in rugby is SA and in all sports Australia 🇳🇿
Part of Ireland's newborn excitement for Rugby?
Of course THEIR biggest rival is the All Blacks? NO OTHER TEAM has a bigger WIN RATE OVER Ireland than the ALL BLACKS.
AS the BIG DOG of Rugby, we get the occasional DOG HAS IT'S DAY moments. The only other big dog we've had trouble with over the DECADES ?, has been THE BOKKA.
@ I sincerely hope you actually listen to the video before you replied to us. It was a click Bas video and look at what you’ve done. You’ve gone off and lost your mind completely.
Rugby's Biggest rivalry is and will always be...Springboks vs All Blacks.
No SA fans support NZ so it's not a rivalry
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@@KewKew-do3kq you sound like you know nothing about SA
South Africa v Ireland is the new biggest rivalry
@@KewKew-do3kq wonder why SA are sore losers and worst winners but youre rght. not a rivalry record is all blacks 62-42 SA - catch up buddy
I see everyone is going for the same clickbait title to get 10 billion Saffa views 😂
Seriously though, please stop.
It’s not always about South Africa 😂
It’s a really nice fresh rivalry, not within a million miles of the greatest historical rivalry but there is an argument to say it’s the best current one…just based on results alone 🤷🏼♂️
It's mad how well it worked to rail in all those angry saffas 😂
South Africa?? The team that got handed the RWC by the referee lol and food poisoned the whole entire All Blacks team in the 92 final RWC 😂😂😂🤌🤌
And then run away to the European rugby comp cos they could never beat the Nz teams in super rugby 😂😂
Rugby's greatest rivalry . . . hilarious! Springboks vs All Blacks is without doubt rugby's greatest rivalry. Just crunch the numbers, wannabes.
No that's not a rivalry. You are fans of each other and support each other against Ireland
Ahahahah you guys are practically kissing eachother in Comment sections… that’s not rivalry
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37 test matches played
Nz won 31
Ireland won 5 😳👀🤷🏼♂️😂😂 keep flapping your gums kid lol
@ yeah, but if you go back to the last four or five years, I think Ireland have beaten New Zealand more also Ireland only became decent at rugby in the last five or six years naturally a legacy country like New Zealand would have one more games Ireland also only turned professional in the late 2000s and in the 90s we could barely feel the team considering the troubles that were on a northern art and then the Republic so you do the math
Ireland's biggest rival is the rwc quater final 😢
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Ian Madigan = best emerging irish rugby pundit
WRONG!! Ireland Biggest RIVALRY is the RWC Quarter FINAL
Wow, take you long to come up with that absolute zinger?
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As a kiwi, Speingboks v All blacks is the biggest rivalry. Both teams have been playing each other for over 100 years. Back wheb teams would tour each others country. Its good to see teams like Ireland step up massively on the big stage. It gives the international game some good competition. I remember ireland beating us in USA and they played beautiful running rugby. They have gotten even better since. Argentina are also stepping up big time as well. The international game is heading in a good direction.
I don’t think you can call it arrival when all you guys do seem to support each other go look at all the comments over the Ireland and New Zealand preview games. It’s full sad Africans in the comments showing their love further kiiwi brothers and how proud they would be if they beat Ireland that’s not rivalry that’s practically asking them to be your wife.
All blacks and Springboks have a unique rivalry. Lots of history together that involves politics, protests and lots of quality rugby. For decades both teams were keeping the game alive, especially before the game turned professional. There's big respect between both teams and both sets of fans show it to each other. Both countries are one of the few that has rugby as it's number one sport and has been for manys years. I like to see the Springboks win against other teams but that's because they have been strong competitors and produced quality rugby for NZ people to watch and enjoy for many generations.
AB's and Boks will always be a great rivalry. But it is great to see Ireland get included with both these countries now. Love watching the Boks teams in the URC now too,
The greatest rivalry is between SA,/NZ, Australia and NZ. Ireland has never made a World Cup final , the Southern Hemisphere teams have won 8 between them, and have figured in every final since inception of the world championship
Ireland need to beat or at least meet New Zealand in a RWC final to even begin those "Biggest rivalry" conversations. Or have have a decent win percentage vs the ABs at least. SA v NZ is still the most fierce rivalry. For many reasons now and historically.
no its not. SA are supporting NZ against Ireland that is not a rivalry
Historically, agreed. For now? Boks have won the last four games against the AB's. Ireland have won the last four out of five against the Boks! Maybe have a rethink?
If you guys are convinced that these two points you both brought forward is enough to warrant it being called the greatest rivalry, then we'll have greatest rivalries every 5 years in rugby amongst different teams.
@@tvpc3194Tweedie, tweedie, tweedie, Irish 😂😂😂😂
@@KiwiGraggle the amount of insecure kiwis and South Africans in the comments is so funny
G’day All - Kiwi here - SA still our biggest rival for me, mostly due to our ferocious history IN Saying that, this games to close to call and the ABs will have to play their game of the year to get past this mob - looking forward to another close epic encounter Cheers all
Can't see the ABs lower their standards calling Ireland their greatest rivals.
Well it has been for the last few years any Ireland game lately whether it’s Ireland France,Ireland South Africa or Ireland vs all blacks do be out and out ground wars carnage and bodies everywhere.
Eng vs All Blacks was 3 good tries to the ABs versus a lucky intercept - that was the guts of the game - feel free to glorify penalties and drop kicks but its not the core of that game which Eng did not deserve to win.
That was like a 14 point turnaround.
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Exactly lol these northern twats keep flapping on about the smith guy and they would of won blah blah 🧐😂👀😂😂 it’s been quite funny
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Probably soon so they can pay Joe's salary.
Would actually pay for this one. Added advantage is that it would clear out the Bokke trolls in one gell swoop
Good lord man this rivalry has only existed at this level of competitivness for something like a decade so to call it the greatest is just silly.
its got you all bothered
Hi team. Good show. Just one comment on NZ defense. When most people say their defense isn’t that great, and they people watch pretty much all the time, no line speed etc… I guess I watching it differently.
I don’t think anyone can argue that NZ has always been, by far, the best at instantly transitioning defensive into attack. I don’t think a super aggressive line speed suits them for a very simple reason. it leaves your back line ahead of the breakdown if you disrupt their ball, then your strike players have to get back on side in order to strike. This way they can defend well without having to expend sh*t tons of energy every single phase running shuttles back and forth. Then wait for the right time to go for a turnover. And there can’t be a coincidence that, more than any other team, most of the time when they transition defensively to attack, they know exactly where to strike on a turnover because they’re taking notes of their opponents positioning.
In my mind this for 2 reasons. They back themselves to hold teams out even if it’s rush dominance, then give up three points if it’s near their line, In order to get a turn over.
Then, by previously being player focused on defense, they know exactly where to strike immediately.
Anyway, not saying your point of view is wrong, what do I know, but just how I see it. The difference at the moment is that this NZ team is not at its usual peak.
Nice work boys.
Rugby’s greatest rivalry?! Show some humility- you’ve NEVER come remotely close from winning a World Cup
The whole panel just said Ireland were not the world's best team. SA were. That seems like humility to me since Ireland are officially ranked No 1.
triggered bok fans are a laughing stock among everyone lol
@@stephendoherty981 do you think ireland v New Zealand is rugby’s greatest rivalry? 🤣
No I don't. It was a classic clickbait title. But it's a rivalry, nonetheless.
@@stephendoherty981 fair enough.
See that headline? The title of this video? This is why everyone considers the Irish arrogant and laughs at them every time they lose in a QF 😂
That title was clickbait for people like you. It works, doesn't it? If you watch the video, the panel just said SA were a better team than Ireland. But, of course, you're looking for a strawman.
@ no. One of those clowns was trying to assert the no 1 status based on world rankings. Its pains them that the rest of the rugby world just ignores their no 1 ranking as its obvious they not the no 1 team.
@@stephendoherty981Ratty, tatty, tatty, tweedie, tweedie, Irish.
hope AB win to shut up my boss at work 😀
Ireland are a good team. Remains me of the Proteas in SA Cricket they always are number 1 until the World Cup Starts😂
SA are never number 1 in cricket.
musawenkosibrianmajola6729
Huh?? SA are shiit at cricket 😂😂😂
Sorry lads, the springboks are our greatest rival as it goes back a fair number of years. Ireland are strong but got their first win after over 100 years against the All Blacks only a few years ago. Uo the mighty All Blacks 🖤
Whatever you need to get off on 😂😂😂😂😂😂
World Cup 2019 wasn't close.
Irish make such a big thing about their first win in New Zealand. Same thing Argentina just did, again.
You mean the series win, surely? Besides Ireland, only the Boks have done this before.
Yeah what NZ did at cricket in India a couple of days ago was a bigger achievement than what Ireland did they beat NZ 2-1 we beat India 3-0 the first time they have ever been whitewashed in a 3 match test series at home by any country if Ireland had won 3-0 then it would've been right up there beating India 3-0 in India is like beating the ABs 3-0 in NZ
If the ABs eliminate silly penalties, they will have Ireland’ s number.
Look at Ireland trying to big itself up. What has Ireland won on the big stage?
Look at moglo. Belittling someone else to make himself feel important
Zip it Saffa.
They made the quarter finals in several RWC 's😂😂😂
@@sharp2684 🤣🤣🤣
A shit load of 6 nations titles of late...ye, that's what they've won
We all know who are the greatest rivals
Hansen is definitely ahead of Nash in the pecking order, Nash is a good player but on the same level.
It's going to be an interesting game. Ireland, you need some more stats before you can talk about greatest rivalries.
Lads, put this great content behind a pay wall ASAP. The Bokke trolls are massing at the gates and will all be excluded in one fell swoop
At the WC NZ scrum coach Greg Feeke said in an article that he watched 100's of hours looking for a weakness in the Ireland scrum, the outcome of that was a word from NZ to Wayne Barnes to watch out for Porter not scrummaging straight, clearly the multiple penalties against Porter had an impact on the result. Small details to swing a game
Porter got away with it for too long now it's caught up with him.
geoffnelson6756
You would of lost either way goofball lol y’all are cocky for no reason 😂 check the receipts kid numbers don’t lie
Over emotional ego tripping leprechauns do
@Trajan2401 Rubbish, how can 'it' catch up with him, playing for club and Country with numerous referees if he was repeatedly doing something illegal it would get picked up regularly, I searched Google for Porter and scrummaging and hey presto Eddie Jones tried the same ploy in the 6 nations just a few years ago, also Mike Ross and Alex Corbisiero both said Porter was not at fault and should have won at least 2 of the scrum penalties, refs just look for certain markers and if something is highlighted then that will attract his focus, it was a gamesmanship masterclass by NZ and potentially swung the game.
England lofting a high ball from a free kick inside the AB"s 22 sums up the impotence of the English attack. I cant understand why they did not just tap and go and keep possession for a few phases to try and get over the line. Their attack looked good against Ireland and France last 6 Nations. Now they have reverted to penalty kicks and drop goal attempts. The wonderful try they scored came about fortuitously from an intercept. Otherwise they never threatened the AB's try line. If you are relying on penalties and drop goals you will lose 9 times out ten against the AB's.
Bhahaha.... NZ 31 vs IRE 5... greatest rivalry in Rugby
He's talking about recent history, not ancient history.
even the scots dont go back 100 years for stats lol kiwis are in decline
Yeah he’s talking about the modern era kind of the last 10 years.
@@tvpc3194NZ too busy kicking ass in other sports you see on the international scene we can change channels from one sport to another since we are strong in all our main sports 😁 🇳🇿
Trajan2401
And Olympics beat all these bums 😂😂 even yachting 😂
After the 2nd World Cup win in a row the All Blacks began the long process of rebuilding, some players retired some went overseas to play, since then we have lost lots of games, including first losses to Ireland and Argentina, the reality is Ireland have a great side right now, and should win the upcoming game as I believe they are the better side, atm. Great teams take time to build, Ireland would really put their stamp on their greatness by winning the next World Cup, and then they will experince what all other great teams that rebuild experience.
Here we go again an Irish account full of New Zealand and South Africans have you know other accounts of your own?
Have you heard the quality of their rugby punditry? No surprise they are here like flies around sh1t
Just like how we see heaps of irish on our shows.
@@FR-je9bw yeah that’s fair
@@Trajan2401 no that’s complete ridiculous I mean it’s absolutely hideous all of the comments on this common section. I’m going to say it’s about 90% South Africans or people from New Zealand. It’s crazy. I bet you didn’t even listen to the whole video. You just looked at the title and started commenting on the rivalry, they didn’t actually mention, that at all in the video just go onto your own pages
@@SmcdMcd-d2klike I said heaps of irish on our shows and they only have a small population.
Bwahahahaha! Rugby's greatest rivalry? Youve' gotta be kidding?
The clickbait title worked on you though.
ireland win too often maybe if nz win this time to even things up
tvpc3194
Ireland have won 5 games vs NZ
Nz have beaten you bums 31 times 😳👀🤷🏼♂️
How much more often do you need 😂😂 foh
This weekend will be an amazing game between the Kiwis in black, and the kiwis in green. 🤣
How ironic the opposition love to accuse NZ of poaching yet most of them have more foreigners than NZ who only had 1 in the starting lineup against England
You mean the Kiwis in green and the Pacific Islanders in black, don't you?
pdublt3d
😂😂😂
stephendoherty981
All born and raised in Nz dip shiiit NZ is a island in the pacific fkn genius 😂😂
They didn’t grow up play all their rugby to adulthood in another country like the kiwis in Ireland did 😂😂 they moved to Ireland fully grown men you fkn goose lol
ABs have been the best for 100 years won the first RWC in 87 you tell how me many islanders were in the ABs then Waldo 😂😂
Probably about 5 in about 60 years of rugby domination and still today FOH kid
BORN AND RAISED BIIITCH
Its No.1 v No.3!
Ireland's a f good side...stop bagging them d heads...they beat All Blacks and Boks at home.
I'm glad to see them so strong...makes us all stronger.
AcaciaSands
Shut TF Dk head 😂😂 those don’t mean shiit lol
7 to 15… what’s Ian Madigan smoking??? 😂😂😂
Ireland want to be involved in the biggest rivalry talk so bad 😂 you’re a ways to go before you’ll ever come close to the All Blacks-Springboks rivalry.
NZ and SA weren't even countries when some of the historical 6n rivalries kicked off "off the pitch"...
SA v NZ is not a rivalry 😂😂😂 they support eachother SA fans want NZ to win 😂😂😂 not rivals
South Africa v Ireland is the new rivalry
@@KewKew-do3kqnope the kiwis I’m working with in London hates them
@@eoinmiller5620 Just look at the win loss stats between nz/sa and the home nations - its so one sided its an embarassment !
Ireland SA is the biggest rivalry at the moment.
Not exactly a rivalry 4 out of 5 even NZ do better than that 😂
Ireland are crap 😂😂 I got all the receipts lol
NZ 31 - 5 IRELAND 😂😂 deluded muppets
Ireland only won 5 out of 37 games VS the ABs lol that’s pathetic 😂 the way you midgets talks as if you’ve won 3 RWC or something 😂😂 foh
Ironically sam cane is new zealands peter o mahony, canes a warrior, great test match ahead
Lomax made mince meat of Porter in the quarter final, that's a cause for concern
Woeful refereeing
@@Coreylahey1000 by every ref who refs porter
All blacks will never ever forget the series loss at home
Evenly matched? Get your head out.
Who do you see as the stronger team?
Desperate to find relevance
Why are all of you in the comments? I think there’s more South Africans in New Zealand people in the comments and there is Irish people desperate to find relevance. They’re literally playing in three days time. It couldn’t be more relevant.
The amount of times you guys referrence Ireland players as being "the best in the world" is hillarious. All Blacks 13+
Here's some RWC numbers:
Tournaments: Finals Won: Finals: Semis: Quarters.
NZ: 10 : 3 : 5 : 9 : 10
Ire: 10 : 0 : 0 : 0 : 8
SA: 8 : 4 : 4 : 6 : 8
NZ lost 2 finals to SA . . . and no one else!
Err what are you getting at 😜
Ireland only came up to standard in the 2000's. It's a bit unfair. Did that make Man City shit prior to their champions league win.
Enjoy the present ffs. If you want to think back 40/50 years, then England vs. Scotland would my vote for rivalry
The tweeedies in Ireland won't like those true stats 😂
garthedwards7346
Here some more numbers for yah champ
105 test matches played
Nz won 62
SA won 38
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37 test matches played
Nz won 31
Ireland won 5 😳😳
Confirmed that Joe Molloy hates Pinergy.
For me ireland winning a world cup would not compare to there series victory over nz.
These guys need a history lesson , they win one series in NZ ,next minute they think they been doing it for the last hundred years , last time I checked the record ,win/lose stats didn't look like Ireland had any numbers of consequence
johnmackie1518
37 games
Nz won 31
Ireland won 5 😳😂😂
Anybody would think Ireland beaten Nz 50 times or something 😂😂 these little people are unbelievable lol
They like to hark on about winning the series in NZ yet NZ achieved something even bigger a couple of days ago when they whitewashed India at cricket 3-0 in India which no other country has ever done its equivalent to beating the All Blacks 3-0 in NZ you won't see us going on about that as much as the irish winning in NZ
Greatest rival isnt Ireland ABs it SA ABs....remember Ireland only been in competitive the last 10 yrs ...the only idiot was sexton lol
And the other idiot was your comment
"Best fullback in the world" "best catchers in the world"
Wow 😂
ABs by 20
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Nah not even close, South Africa and Australia will always be NZs biggest rivals.
The Southern Hemisphere will always rate themselves first. It's just a hangover from being the 'New' World boys. If the kiwis and Saffas tried a few different sports, they might not be so cocky. Lol. I think as an Irish fan, with vast majority of our folks involved in GAA and Soccer, I think we are well in the conversation over past 5-10 years as a top 3 team and in reality, there is nothing between anyone of SA, NZ, IRE and FRA on a given day, ENG coming back into the fold and ARG & AUS not far behind. Should be a great game, I reckon it will be very close, but yeah. ill go Ireland by 2/3 points.
Rugby is not biggest sport in south africa ,,soccer is ,,,rugby only played by 10% of the population,,,,get your facts right ,,,,
Speingboks all blacks greatest rivalry always will be
Haha “are these just two poor teams” maybe a World Cup finalist and semi finalist, something I know Irish pundits arent too familiar with given their wcs end fairly quickly
Won 5 times and drawn once in 31 games. France has won 14 against NZ. STOP THIS. You're making this up? Try England at least.
Ireland has only become a rugby powerhouse lately. These all time stats are meaningless. It's like looking at Man City's record since they first started and drawing the conclusion that they are also rans
@FR-je9bw
Shuddup kid you are really delusional aren’t you??
You don’t just cut history off where you think it’s appropriate for you and your little team 😂😂😂
It doesn’t work like that kid you got some growing to do 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️😂😂 bringing up Manchester who?? You are seriously deluded lady lol
@FR-je9bw
It doesn’t work like that lady lol delusional freaks
Ireland trying to force their relevance off the back of a few years of reasonable performance. Boks/ABs rivalry represents 100 years of sustained excellence. Get a grip.
It’s not arrival when you’re always practically trying to kiss each other in the comments that’s just being good friends with each other and wanting to love each other arrival is pure hatred
It's a clickbait title to generate views and engagement in this comment section to pump up the algorithm. It's RUclips 101.
Nobody in Ireland is sat here thinking this is a great rivalry, I mean there's some recent beef which is great but Ireland have really only been at this level for a few years. The fact so many SH rugby fans came here to post these comments (without watching this podcast no doubt) and got so offended smacks of their arrogance. I mean how dare they suggest this, don't they know who we are?! We've won eleventy million world cups and being rank number one doesn't actually matter (unless Ireland lose then it'll suddenly start to matter again).
Are there actual hordes of Irish fans commenting in SA rugby podcasts? I doubt it.
Delusional click bait title😂... Should be a good game though and looking forward to it.
kids
Irish rugby media again looking for relevance for their rugby team against those teams with a legacy.
England are bigger rivals because they've won a world cup.
the Podcast read somebodys comment about madigan last week..went something along the lines of. "if you wanna be taken seriously as a podcast get madigan a new microphone
And when you play SA you say thats the biggest rivalry 😂 so what is it NZ or SA or both 😁 SA are our main rivals in rugby and Australia are our main rivals in all sports always has been.What people seem to forget is that England are no mugs they beat Ireland and only lost by 1 against SA the last time.As for the NZ v England game it would've been a travesty if England had won 3 tries and a disallowed try v 1 gifted try that came from an offside position
Irish journalists don't know the kiwi mindset 😂 they pretend not to know your players 😂 they are very petty
James Lowe said that Kiwi players don’t know the opposition in a recent interview. Are you saying he’s a liar?
Whatever happens in this game is nothing compared to South Africa v Ireland now . That's where the fireworks are.
@@greattobeadub yup - a liar and a turncoat
That's hilarious.
@@Camcolito it sure is
SAFFA here - hoping Ireland wins!
I want us to go back to number 1. I will be rooting for the All Blacks, even though I know that Ireland is going to defeat them. But the All Blacks tend to take it a notch up when they play against formidable opposition.
Thank you
Sell out
Not a true saffa. A true saffa would back the abs😂😂😂
Come on Scotland 💪.
SA are probably the best but So far ahead of anyone else? 😂 you wouldnt lose to Argentina if you are so far ahead you are supposed to have depth and wouldnt win the world cup by only 1 against 13-14 players for an hour if you were so far ahead
one of the barrett brothers?? that would be Beauden. what kind of pundit ...
When your number 1 in the world everyone wants to be your rival😅😅😅😅 what a joke...... everyone wants to beat the ABs they are the bench mark for rugby ...the ABs live rent free in Irish heads.
Mads is great
If South Africa were so far ahead of all the rest Joe, then they'd have won their home series 2-0 against an Irish side full of injuries. Yes they won the world cup, but how you can say they are far ahead of the rest when they struggle so much against Ireland is crazy.
If Ireland were so great they would be able to crack a semi. How can Ireland be the best when their "golden generation" progressed no further than any other Irish side in the RWC.
@@sandorclegane3658 In the grand scheme of things though that is one game that they lost. I'm not even advocating that Ireland are the best, I take issue with the idea that South Africa are so far ahead. All three of their knockout games were won by one point. One score less in any of those games and no one would be saying this stuff. There is more to rugby than the world cup and if Ireland do finally make it past a quarter final and God forbid maybe even win a world cup then it'll be interesting to see what everyone's excuse is then.
@@liamwilliams6651" just a knockout competition" "three one point wins" first, the RWC is literally what every rugby nation builds for, plays and aspires to win. Second, three one point wins all back to back, while taking the hardest route to the cup is nothing less than astounding. It showed immense grit, strength of mind and character, and I dare to say we will probably never see a more impressive feat.
By your logic the six nations is just a round robin, big deal, and three of the teams, Scotland, wales and Italy, are hardly what anybody would describe as strong competition.
@@sandorclegane3658 Well done putting words in my mouth. Never said it was just a knockout competition. It is the pinnacle of the sport. But there's more to rugby than just 6 weeks every 4 years and knockout rugby doesn't always result in the best team winning and I'd argue round Robins usually do. The best team has actually rarely ever won the world cup I'd argue. Otherwise NZ would have won the majority of them. Some nerve to talk about Scotland, Italy and Wales like that when Australia and Argentina are the competition in the RC. All NZ have to do is beat SA and they have the competition in the bag.
@@liamwilliams6651 you're deluded as are most Irish fans and pundits. Barely even a tier one nation to be fair. Who would you rather face in a final, wales, Scotland, Italy or Australia, Argentina lmfao.
Rugby’s greatest rivalry - Ireland vs All Blacks - that’s Bullshit! Think again.
Is Molloy gone from OTB?
Wish they had kept him, can't stand him.
no its his twin
Can't be a rivalry when you have Kiwis in your team.
Half the NZ team are from the Pacific Islands
Remind me again where Wallace was born??
@@rightkick_cemeteryexactly
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@@rightkick_cemetery vast majority of them born and bred in NZ.
Christ with the dismissal of number 1
We beat saf in w cup. Lost to n.z by an inch. Beat saf in saf
The dismissal of world number 1...is irritating. Sure world cup is more important but you can't do that through the years. There is an exagerated dismissal of number 1..... having supported ireand in 80s and 90s enjoy it...celebrate it. Pundits in this country were alongside 1 or 2 rules changes out biggest weaknesses in '19. Still havent matured to us being a top world rugby team. Team has, thankfully
While I don’t think the world rankings are everything, the dismissal of some Irish pundits is bizarre. By their logic, England in 2004 to 2007 were the best team in the world as they’d just won the world cup
@@kh7431 Are the Irish dismissing the Number 1 ranking? That's a shame because this Irish Squad is fantastic.
This Ireland team are beyond impressive, beating SA in SA at the end of their season and the start of ours (yes I’m SAn) even once without Keenan, Sheehan, Bundee and a few others in forgetting is a great feat, so they deserve to be in the conversation for world number 1 for sure. I don’t think they get enough credit outside Europe but also sometimes get too much credit within it (to be fair I haven’t listened to this whole pod yet)
@@LarryLoudiniworld rankings show how consistent you are world cups you dont have to be the best just the best on the day a lot of luck involved a perfect example NZ winning the womans T20 world cup they are nowhere near the best in womans cricket Australia,England and India are just got lucky but that's world cups
Peter lakai will take over from sam cane 22yr old
Calling New Zealnd an average team means that you guys are below average cause the last time the two teams met you were taught a lesson. World Cups matter cause thats when it counts. When no one is experiementing and everyone gives their all.
Who are the "experimental" players that NZ will be fielding this weekend? Who were the "experimental" players that SA fielded against Ireland during the summer?
Hilarious that you even consider Ireland as part of the greatest rivalry. Your best players aren't from Ireland and when you get passed a QF you can consider yourself a top tier nation 👍🏻 You say that you have the AB number and you have the bok number. But most of these games are played in the autumn series where there is nothing to play for and southern hemisphere bleed young blood
The only player I can see being ranked in irelands top 8 that's foreign would be JGP Lowe isn't on the level of the front three back row or the Irish centres. I get not liking them but you feed the hype when you talk about a team disregarding logic 👍
Yet here you are watching an irish media show.. self awareness would help
Don’t think any Irish fan dismisses NZ winning when it truly counts - they even say this in the first few mins of the pod
😂😂😂 Ireland is SA biggest rival because all you SA fans support NZ and want them to win against your biggest rivals Ireland always beat you 😂😂😂😂
Pretty funny how the metric for ireland to be considered "a good team" keeps shifting. Before it was just being able to beat NZ, then it was winning in NZ, one that was achieved (which SA haven't done in nearly 100 years) it's the QF. When the QF gets over come it'll be a WC and if we win a WC it'll be back to back WCs...
HAHA, Dont mention the All Blacks scored 3 exciting tries, and England one gift try. You northern hemisphere girls crow about winning games on penalties. Your game is soooo boring.
Wow , really? Ireland will win well, by 7 to 15 ? Geez someones confident. Typical irish pundant confidence huh...just like the world cup....endless reasons why they were supposedly superior 😂
Eh no I wouldn't agree with that. south africa are not number one in the world if we're being honest Ireland won both those tests down there. I dont like blaming refs but Luke pierce and Ian tempest caused a 7 point swing the wrong way. We are number one and we need to get comfortable with that we earned the title of the number one ranked team by smacking the world. Champions not just once but twice in their own home the record will show a drawn series but we won both of those games.
😂😂😂 Tweedie, tweet, tweet 🇮🇪
As your pundits said, you aren't number 1😂 Need to get past a quarter final first 😂
But for an intercept that game was comfortable for NZ
Nah bro SA vs NZ greatest rivalry ever
Hey fellas - the no dickheads policy only applies to all blacks - we can’t control DHs from other teams
Biggest rivalry at the moment is ireland v boks ,,,biggest rivalry in rugby ,,boks v nz ,,,,ireland beaten boks 9 times in history ,,ireland beat nz 5 times ,,,ireland have never won a series in south africa ,,ireland have only won 1 series in new zealand ....
Hey fellas - the no dickheads policy only applies to all blacks - we can’t control DHs from other teams