UDA Vs Azimio La Umoja: Who Has The Best Vision For Kenya? ~ Mohamed Wehliye Vs Ahmednasir Abdullahi
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Just knew Wehliye today and he has totally dismantled Ahmednasir. Best show I have enjoyed in a while
Seeing Grand Mulla getting schooled, roasted and outsmarted in every possible by Wehliye makes a man wonder..."Did he really think that he is the only learned Somali in town?"
There a more somalis educated than weheliye and the grand mullah.
After 27 minutes of watching... I beg to disagree. Grand Mulla still holding his position. Not outsmarted. But let me watch to the end.
@@wafiworld1 still think he wasn't outsmarted in the end?
😂😂😂😂
The way this channel conducts debate is mature and educative
Dr. Weleyi beat Ahmadnassir hands down. Point by point and calm without interruptions
This is the best conversation that should prevail in the country, sobriety at work
There is something momentous here that many seem to miss. Here are two accomplished Somali Kenyans (whose community was hitherto at the periphery of national discourse) intellectually debating and influencing national politics of the day. Though Ahmednasir may disagree, Kenya has made great strides on matters inclusivity.
There’s nothing wrong with Kenyan Somalis making political decisions for themselves and their community . I don’t see why we have to keep on mentioning it all the time yet they are just as Kenyan as everyone else . It’s a complete non issue for them to have political opinions. Why mention their ethnicity?
@@rizikimichelle5885 you missed the point
This is elite representation.
Very true 👍
I am very surprised that there are people in Kenya who hold so much hate for Raila that they can not give him credit even when it due.
So sad
We need another interview with these two on how the current govt is progressing
Kudos #SpiceFM for this space, you are redefining conversations and shaping narratives!
Now it's four against one, bure sana hii spice radio
Four people against one, ahamednasir you are a real man
It's not four against one,
It's three four calling out ahamednasir on his bull shit.
I love this show and station as well
Both mulla and wehliye were excellent in their contexts,contributions and ideas of each supporting his own political incumbent .Always there is differences of choice,taste and preference be moderate in comments of upgrading and downgrading one of them
I have never seen anyone who makes Ahmed loose his cool than wehliye. Compare the jkl shows that makau mutual is a heckler and Ahmed is the cool head, today Ahmed is the new makau mutua
Very true Waliye is the calm one
Ahmednasir, he has two balls like Raila has been, he can be on opposition too, nobody stopping him.
After listening to the discussion and views expressed by members of of the panel, it comes out very clearly that Amednasir has a special relationship with Ruto and UDA. He doesn’t accept that, but his views and hate for Raila is so personal that he does not see the role Raila has played in transforming Kenya for the common good. It is very clear that Raila has the capacity to propel Kenya forward for the common good of all Kenyans while Ruto comes out as a dangerous Chiluba like individual who is greedy and aggressive who can do everything possible to destroy political enemies. That view died with Moi, we must entertain political competition in order to assess who is best for Kenya in the most civil manner.
You Just hate Ruto
Very clear analysis.....
its all of them vs Grand Mulla,...why all of them are countering welihye
Difference between first term of Jubilee and second term is that unlike in the first term, there is no mega corruption in the 2nd term… and the mitigating factor is Handshake
Because you don't know what you're talking about from eurobond, sacking of almost half CS, SGR
@@onasisthegreat1946 I think you’re the one who doesn’t know what he is talking about
I tell people that Uhuru's government was followed by corruption after corruption until he had to spit the thief Ruto. He is now able to attend to clear cartels: coffee price is now 100per kg and rising, KMC famers are getting paid on time. Raila deserves a chance to sweep these thieves from our economy
@@davincimaths9492 the only Mega scandal in his 2nd term was the KEMSA thing… in the first term it was scandal after scandal courtesy of Sugoi man.. Sasa ananunulia watu wheelbarrow na hizo pesa
How about kemsa
"Hapa hakuna extinguisher" 👏👏👏
I'm glad I'm not the only one who is tired of the juvenile, sensationalist spectacles like jkl being force fed to us by mediocre media houses as intellectual discourse in place of interviews such as these.
Wellihye is yhe bomb
It's really shameful that Ahmednasir is downplaying the gains Kenya has achieved through Raila. I admire the way Welliye is soberly articulating his points.
Why do you only mention Raila? as if he fought alone!! The likes of Gitobu imanyara,Paul muite ,muturi kigano ,Martha karua fought for multipartism & they don't brag
Of course
Ahmednasir Abdullahi is on point .
Njererre said it best anyone who wants power at all costs without the peoples mandate shouldn't not be elected. Azimio is a symtom of what fake politics is all about
Weheliye mambo yote
You need to bring these again... Wehliye was right UDA was a movie and just a show 😂😂
He is a prominent and one of the founding father of UDA...Mnafik mkubwa
Grand Mullah kudos adeer
Even though the heated debate was fierce and special of its own kind, the final proverb by Doctor Muga 'kawaida ni sheria' illustrates the norm of outcome in elections in Kenya
Ahmednasir you're so funny wallahi 🤣 😂
wallahi he's so funny 😂😂
I enjoy this program because it brings elevated mature debate and content.
Great economicst ,thanks to giving them way of living.
Who is the ruler? Hope you get sense in that question
Thank you Hamednersir you have the potential to help kenya the others are poor in mind.
Weheliye should prove what was stolen in this country and who?
Raila is loaded for change. He has fought the system all his life. He was instrumental in bringing multiparty politics here. But he deals with politicians who stand for nothing but their stomachs and is sometimes forced to find accomodation in a very politically fluid environment. Some think that his versatility is conmanship but this only because they conviniently ignore the history of the man. Those who understand the man know that it is political dexterity. With his convictions he needed to get a clear path to power to drive the change he has lived for! Wait! Watch and see how Raila changes this country in just 5 years should God give him the opportunity! South Korea and Singapore are his models and that is vision! Ruto stands for no principle and if he does, there is nothing in his history to confirm it. Handouts perhaps? That is the truth. He opposed devolution, BBI and everything that would empower the common man, yet he talks of bottom up. A seriously contradicted personality!
The countries you have named are good examples of how a country can be transformed in a short time where there is clarity of vision among the leadership. one thing you forgot however is the environment within which the transformation took place. unlike Kenya which is excessively litigious these two were constitutoonal dictorships. Nothing was challenged in the courts of law. Kenya may have missed that opportunity of pushing national agenda minus legal hurdles (Moi's time). RAO who I used to support has morphed into unrecognizable fighter for social justice. How I wish he had this opportunity around 2007? let us allow God's will to be done come 9th August
Maybe dictatorship is gud then?? Av heard kagame being called dictotor n rwanda is thriving🤐
I have worked with Somalis for 15yrs and Ahmednasir is not serious...he thinks everyone is just a client and in need of legal representation
Oh my goodness my this guy abdelnassir hates raila with every fibre of his being, could it be personal? This is dangerous for a person and country at large.
Great man
Ahmed is scared of death because Raila don't kill. There was a time Ruto people threatened to kill him and he took it very seriously but am sure inside Ahmed heart he loves Raila Odinga period.
This man wehliye is speaking the naked truth. Ahmednassir is just being too personal
Ahmednassir Abdullahi is engaging in what we term in law as an academic exercise
The likes of Ahmednasir are the people we must always be on the look out for and keep very far from power. They're wheeler dealers. They hate Raila because he has no time for them. With a simple handshake he dismantled their status quo and scattered them in all different directions. With RAO in power they are finished.
The Azimio was proper but the fear was the president wish to extend the ruling that was the only problem.nobody ever realized that otherwise the team was fine.
I like the way that guy putt his word his the master of propanda
Nice conservation. Spice
Bring on board Dr. MM, zoom or any other video conferencing.
What did Mohamed say is absolutely right, working class of Kenyans pay more tax .
Handshake is the worst thing that ever happened in peaceful Kenya, how can two individuals decide for population of Kenya, disregarding every other leader, only invite them on board, only two knows what was discussed in the handshake
Rails is one person now ok with the policies of nyayo era, now he can practice the same impunity, today Raila can change nothing, he has abdicated leader of opposition responsibility, as long as a corrupt person is in ODM, he should not be asked, case in point Ngilu as minister, whose rights does Raila stand for, Luo Nyanza haven't experienced what the rest of Kenyan community, though now western Kenya under Atwoli command
Hehe SC very slippery guy.We need another rematch .Nice debate
Great Economists entire world,
Ahmed is an intelligent guy only that he doesn’t like Raila as he said! Webiliye same but loves Raila no matter his principles
I don't understand which school Ahmed went to ?
Ahmed Nasir is intelligent person
Ahmed, We definitely know that you support Ruto. Please stand on your ground .
Seems Ahmed Nasser's problem with Raila is personal and not political or ideological.
Raila fought Ahmednassir not to be made chair of a “certain” board in the judiciary. So yes you are right, its personal
Mohamed is definitely right. Kenyans, billions never pay tax, but the working class is paying more tax .
Many people were part of the fight for change in this country. Attributing it to an individual is a distortion of facts. Some people paid the ultimate prize. If enthroning RAO is the reward we are asked to give (Murathe), what has been done for Dedan Kimathi's family? Matiba's family? Mbai's family? Gitobu Imanyara?
Your argument is a little bit shallow and pedestal, world over even in revolutions many are involved but you only hear about the leaders, when they succeed only the leader you'll hear of. Martin Luther king Jr is celebrated up to date, was he fighting alone? What of M7, Kagame, Kenyatta 1?
Are those"many people" you are saying seeking for presidency?
@@254NOMAD always go for the context otherwise you lose the plot
@@allenjustice4518 six thousand shillings can't even buy baba a lunch, what a shame wanting to keep the poor even more poorer with the economic shift happening dunia mzima. Hana sera kupayuka payuka wakisema watamfunga Ruto. Kwani kazi ya akina ORENGO, OMOLLO ETC ni gani hawajawai mpeleka kotini na kumshinda kesi?
A whole family for a month yawa? Is that what you call empowering people smh 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🍊🍊🍊🍊😂
Azimio itazimia kama NASA tu, BBI iko mortuary haiwezi fufuka tunaizika hivi karibuni. Mtandanganywa hadi lini na baba. The 2nd richest politician after uhunye. Ruto is far behind. Baba mkono gamu kuliko gorilla glue 😂😂
Bottom up ideology is the best concept or idea that has ever come up in Kenya. The ruling class cannot understand it because they are possessed with their own idol worship by the poor whom they use . Raila calls that concept TAKATAKA. Wheelbarrow is but a symbol like orage of ODM.
Achana na hiyo mambo yako naniiii
Unaskiaje uchumi kiongozi?
SC Ahmednasir is such a great thinker and debater..kudozBut the panel seems not to operate on the same level😂
"Fuata Nyayo" was never an ideology and there is nothing like that in the whole world. it was just a statement
Are you old enough to have recited the loyalty pledge..? Nyayoism was a philosophy of governance
BBI was opposed by Ruto in the court .
So court is for Ruto and not for Uhuru.
fatanyao or fuata nyayo?
weliye was calm and collected,
Grand Mulla Sounds like a politician in a podium.
SC has something personal against Baba and its not in our business to know.The other thing is you should have team up SC Nbdul Nasir with His equals in Politics and Arrogance.Orengo or Prof Nyongo
Ahmed, don't panic stand for what you believe .. I knew that Ruto. Is gonna be the fivth president of Kenya.
Ahmad says he has favorable views of Ruto but has not decided to support him. So Mr Wehelite what is your problem ?
A new talk show has been established. The other talk show is so kiddish with repeated talkers who are old and tired with stupid fire extinguishers.
watu wote hapo ni azimio apart from grand mullah
Wimbo wa ruto na UDA bonyeza hapa itacheza,...ruclips.net/video/xPkp-3RNk8Y/видео.html
But walie is given alot of airtime to air his views vividly and exhaustively. Don't u see
Ahmednasir is on point
Expected from kariuki
Fact!
Ahmednasir..is strategic..and I like it.
He is 6months ahead of everyone in panel.repesenting UDA in court after election.
Grandmulla !.. am sure he wishes election to be held today before ruto's
run out money rig
Wehliye is tired working in Saudi and he is looking 4 a job in Raila,s Goverment,and the guy sitting right to Ahmednassir is purely Raila guy,and the women asks very question when it comes to hand shake
💯🇰🇪
Four against one,abdnassir is very right
Who told these people that is only Raila who can be in opposition .... anyone can take that challenge
If Raila was with those powers.mbona alimfuta ruto kazi na Kibaki akamregesha if alikua na nguvu?.that post was only brought to cool the nation
Under Uhuru and Ruto undermistrtion , it was like Billions to be more rich and poor to be more poor
Wehliye is the ODM STRATEGIST & therefore we can understand his Shenanigans
It is absolutely laughable to suggest that Ruto represents change! What change? Ruto is the true representation of corruption. You will never hear Ruto condemn corruption. Ahmed is trying to give ‘status quo’ his owm meaning. There has never been any ideology guiding the politics of Kenya. Raila represents the change that Kenya needs today. Will ever need!
In words Mohamed is jelous of Baba!
Who is Mohamed?
The Grand Mullah is intellectually more mature than the other guy.
But every time Raila was given a chance he performed better. It is in the public domain.
I can understand now how those Pakistani TV commenters start throwing tables at one another
Ahmed Nasir needs to get his tongue checked..Its really fucked..He has changed every word in the dictionary..
Ahmed. Uko poa
How is everyone running away from Azimio, yet opinion polls are suggesting the gap between the leading candidates is narrowing, in favour of Raila?
Who is running away from azimio? Few confused Kikuyus like you plus kales are not “Kenyans”
@@kennedypaul3292 read his comment again and understand don't respond without understanding
Ahamed controlled the show. The rest are on a lower league. Despite team work
You watched your own things kalejinga
Hate will take u no where at the end .
I see a teacher and students that come to learn but got poor listening skills.
Ahmed Nasir kizungu mingi ya urongo mwingi Sana hata mungu haugopi huyu mawakili warongo always 🤣🤣
The further backward you look the further forward you are likely to see, looking back ruto track record shows disastrous, run away corruption
Ahmednasir always shine on debates. I'm enjoying how he is grilling this Wehiliye guy.
My guy watch the show closely..
Assuming jubilee had won all the perliamentary seat in the country, what would have happened, who would do the check and balance, mullah is just childish
@1:00:00 is the disgrace of all disgraces. And the absurd unintentional admission that azimio la umoja or UDA kenyans are a cooked goose.
Nasir is jst for uda.talking about people running from Azimio you're wrong.uda imejaza wakale
I went to Alliance High School. Am Petroleum and Minerals Engineer. I never knew fools are given platforms.
Hi engineer, can u mentor someone from alliance too?
Why don't you go there and represent you r Intellect.Smart people never claim their Intelligence.Wacha kujipigia Debe.
@@honestlyfreeddreams9135 Hauoni jina he is a Sudanese
Williey is off the rail. Changing parties is OK, but breaking party after party is RAO's MO.
2007 he caused chaos got nusu mkate.
2013 claimed he was rigged despite having nusu mkate by people bila tothi
2017 caused mandamano got handshake.
2022 now BBI, reggae state.
at some point the lady got bored and dozed off. . .
Wewe Ahmed Unashida kubwa sana unasema umeamua kuto unga Azimio mkono na auja amua kuonga UDA Ahmed unajichanganya farasi ni mbili Ahmed Acha Uwoga Acha Mchecheto wewe ni RUTO na RUTO ni Wewe Eti auja Amua DANGANYA TOTO. Round hii ni BABA RUTO lazima APANGWE ATAKE ASITAKE ATAPANGWA na ATA Duuuuuuuuu.!
I disagree. Raila was before Uhuru. And Raila was Kibaki when they started vision 2030. So Raila has to finish what he started.
Grand Mullah is thick, whatever he says does not make sense to laymen and the intellectuals.
This time round Ahmednasir failed..always thinking he is the only one that knows it all