Loader Lift Capacity! Round #4 of 8! Kubota BX vs Deere 1025R!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Which tractor has the most loader lift capacity - the John Deere 1025R or the Kubota BX2680? Tractor Time with Tim puts both tractors through several lifting tests to determine which one has the most lifting capability. Tim discusses the loader functions and gives real world examples of lifting capabilities.
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Tim, I'm really disappointed to see you handicapped the Kubota with those green weights. You should know it only prefers to lift orange ones. The entire test was invalid :-)
Few notes. You did not point out the ssqa and its significant lift penalty. With the pin-on or pin grabber qa coming in higher. The QA offset is also a big hit on rollback. We sell 90% with SSQA, so it's fair to include it in the test, but it deserved mention as there is a tradeoff.
I personally would say I think you understate the difference in lift\curl between the two. It's a widely held belief kubota excels there. As an experienced operator you've perfected it on a harder to run tractor, but your average operator will run the kubota with more fineness with less seat time.
I think you largely reflected what the spec sheets show, the Deere does life more.
Nice work.
Hey Neil!
Ssqa...you and I have already had that debate, right?
Both machines have a quick attach bucket. Seems apples to apples to me. Too bad the bx chooses the overweight ssqa version rather than a lighter QA mechanism.
...for others, Neil and I agree on larger tractors, ssqa is the way to go! We only differ on subcompact and small compact.
The two functions test...perhaps you are right. However, the 2018 and later 1025r has a much better feel. It isn’t that hard.
...but I agree it is a ‘widely held belief...’
I would still like to know the factory spec for hydraulic pressure on the bx. ...just to make sure this one is in spec. I think it is, as the loader lift capacity seems to be close to spec.
Thanks very much for your comment!
@@TractorTimewithTim The internet tells me 1790-1850 PSI. My BX2350 manual tells me the implement relief valve should be set to 1778 to 1849 PSI. Presumably in later models they rounded what they converted from 125 to 130 kgf/cm2.
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We did. Just thought the QA conversation should have been part of this video since its very relevant to the testing you did. Most people are not aware, but Kubota offers pin-on, a pin-type QA not disimular from the JD one, and the SSQA. I see Deere just started offering an SSQA... so they came around on that just in time for your video :-).
Another thing you may want to show, all your testing was theoretical loads and not typical material handling chores that most people would do. For example, maybe 1 in 20 people own pallet forks. It's worth adding that every configuration of all these tractors will move pretty well whatever material you scoop up into their buckets.
Messick's It doesn’t really matter, lift is lift and that John Deere walked all over that Kubota. It probably would still out lift it even without the SSQA. With these tractors every 50 pounds matter. It matters when you’re coming into a pill of heavy material or using pallet forks.
@@barelystablefarm7151 I don't think the SSQA has as much of a weight penalty as a geometry penalty. The farther away from the pin you put a weight the harder it is for the tractor to lift it. The weights on the end of the pallet from the load a trailer test for instance. If the SSQA puts 3" more between the weights and the pin that alone would cause quite a bit of difference in the amount able to be lifted. The Deere QA is pretty "Compact" in the regard and doesn't offset the attachments nearly as far as a SSQA.
These videos are absolutely invaluable to folks like myself currently trying to make this exact purchasing decision. Thank you so much for taking the time to make them! Having grown up on a farm in Wisconsin which had only red tractors I've noticed myself inherently and wrongly biased against Team Green. Looking at these demonstrations, I find myself softening on my long-held avoidance of them. It's still going to take a test drive on both machines to make the final call, as I already own a Kubota M7040SU with a bucket loader and pallet forks for heavy work. For my situation it's mostly going to be a monster lawn mower "with benefits".
Yep! Would highly encourage the test drive. They do feel different!
This series is pure gold, just lovin it. For the record I have zero tractor experience, but after visiting the Kubota dealer a couple of times I really taught that the BX would do better. The dealer really pushed the ability of the BX loader to do 2 functions at the same time and not the Deere. I am new to your channel, but love your honesty....thumbs way up. You have almost persuaded me to go green.... God bless.
Please go GREEN you won't be disappointed!
I'm glad I brought the 1025r, test or no test. Nice video Tim.
Truly EXCELLENT review segment! I love that they're real world tests, things we'd actually experience during ownership, and not just lab simulations or something. Thanks Tim and fam!!!
I know it’s a lot of work, but I’m glad someone finally made a head to head video of real world scenarios with these two tractors.
Did anyone else find it amusing that this comparison was done while Tim was wearing a Case t-shirt? Great Video Tim, again, not really surprised by the results.
You have a great delivery style in all your video's as well as a very honest nature in the presentations ( and real life I would imagine). Love the caparison test, keep them up as I hope to buy my first tractor next year. Thank you!!!
Thanks very much for the kind words.
Mind blown at dueling Tims.....that is some fancy video editing.
That was my favorite part!
Definitely impressive! I was hoping they would talk to each other at the end of the clip ;) haha
That was Tractor Jim, ...Tim's evil twin
If I had any idea she would try this, I would have had an argument with myself.
When she showed it to me, I was clapping and screaming. I loved it!!!
Tractor Time with Tim I thought you were just beside yourself! Tim @ Cliffside Acres
An example of literally being beside himself! Great video!
Great video, You just hit on reality. I bought a 2019 JD1025r ( My first tractor) back in April. I needed help with lifting IBC Tote crates of firewood on and off of my trailer. I towed my trailer to each dealer with a 3/4 filled IBC Tote of dried Ash firewood ( about 500#) to each dealer JD and Kubota and asked if the 1025r or Bx 2680 could take the tote off and on. The JD1025r did it with no problem while the Kubota could not. The Kubota dealer wanted to sell me the L3901 or the L4701. He said I would wear out a compact tractors doing this kind of task. I explained it would just be about 16-20 of these totes a year (seasonal ) and the rest of the time I would be using the tractor to till a small garden and help with landscaping and cleaning up dead trees on our 1-1/2 acre property and helping out parents and friends. I had no use or the finance committee (LoL) approval for anything bigger. We choose the JD1025r and have been happy with it. GOD BLESS
That was a brilliant idea. ...and yes, sounds like those larger tractors would not be what you needed for the rest of the year.
Very good comment. I wish I had a way to text my bx 188p out before I bought it. It was weaker then my Jdx series. The bx is a garden tractor.
The B2601 is only a little bit more expensive, and only a little bit larger (probably still about the same size as the 1025R, depending on discounts may be the same price). It lifts a lot more than the BX - they made compromises to make it so small.
I did not think there would be that big of a difference between the two tractors, thanks for the video.
I think those were pretty clear results.
The Kubota had a smaller, but not necessarily lighter bucket and heavier SSQA attachment system.
I have never measured, but perhaps you already covered how far out the loaders and buckets extend. Could also factor into lift capacity.
Do you feel the BX would lift it's rated figures?
Excellent video. I'll always be wondering which identical twin I'm talking to from now on 😜
Yes, I believe the BX would lift its rated capacity. Perhaps even more.
The differences are larger closer to the ground, confirming your theory about the loader being extended further on the BX.
I should graph each one with many different weights. That would be fun.
I love my BX, but this comparison is pretty clear. Advantage JD! Thank you for presenting ALL of the videos in this series with clarity and honesty. It’s a breath of fresh air! Also, LOVE the Proverb at the end.
An eye opener for sure!! Thank You!!!! So many very applicable comparisons! I bought my BX 1880 with a 3rd function valve installed. I think I'll wait before buying a grapple and forks. Anyone interested in buying a sub compact needs to watch all of your comparisons. I wish I would have been able to. Thanks again!
Now this makes me smile. I like real world tests on the machines. Not just data out of a book that I can read. Thank you.
Tim, love these videos. I’ve been watching all these videos on RUclips about the 1 series and the BX for the last couple months and I was on the BX side. But after your demonstration and unbiased testing I’m now on the 1 series side. I am going to wait until you’ve completed this video series to buy my tractor, but I want to thank you for the time and effort you’ve put in to showing us what these tractors are all about. You , in my option, have the best unbiased videos on RUclips for Deere and Kubota. -Rich
Please go to GOOD WORKS TRACTOR if you have concerns as he sells both tractors. He can answer any of your questions! He is one of the most honest people on this earth.
Chris 3M he is one that I also follow and watch all his videos. He does great stuff too. Thanks 👍
I have a bx24 for years now and I have ran into so many issues with lifting or even running hot while mowing. I'm finally upgrading to a 1025r this week and I couldn't be more excited. Thank you for your video's, they was very informative and I really enjoyed watching. Thank you and stay safe.
Finally a real world weight rating g test. No sales BS.
Great video! I agree with the "no curl" emphasis, as I use my tractor like a forklift a lot. I can say that my 1025 helped unload a "big gun safe" from the back of my friend's pickup with no real problem. I even got it to the door for him! Cost? Some beer and stuff on the grill after we got it placed inside. Good day for everybody!
I love seeing real world differences. We can watch you do scientific testing that the manufacturer provides or we can show what it really does.
I really like the “real” scenario tests it gives you a really good idea on how each tractor will handle - good job guys
Love the videos Tim! Keep them coming. Would love to see a 1025R vs 2038R too! That would answer a lot of questions for potential buyers. I myself have a 2038R and absolutely love it!
I'm waiting for that too.
Thanks for the video was great. Would love to see 1025R vs 2038R also. Looking to buy one in the next year or so.
PS Title says round 4 did I miss round 3?
Mower operation. It was a good one!
1 advantage of the BX no counter balance needed it won't lift it. LOL
That was pretty cool... He said he was able to do two functions at once... while he was functioning both of them at the same time... I Get your humor Tim... and I just ordered my JD 1025R it will be delivered in a few days... I cant wait... I am going to make all kinds of videos about playing in my yard... thanks for all the great info you have given me... I never subscribe but I always see your videos... you earned this one... I just Subscribed... Thank you for selling me my Tractor... lol I knew more than my dealer... thanks Much Respect
Congratulations! You will love the 1025r!
Right on Tim. This has been a great series
Thank you so much for your comparison videos, I go pick up my new JD 1025R this weekend. Your videos are great.
Congratulations!
I did months of reviews before choosing my BX. Lift capacity was a huge factor but according to all the other videos online I wasn’t going to lose much. I wish this series was out a few months ago when I made my purchase as I most likely would have gone green. I also find very annoying the fact that the BX loader barely moves at idle while the Deere has about 70-80% of its capacity at idle. Thanks for the amazing series.
Andre Regimbal lots of people get lots of work done with a BX. You are going to love it.
@@suburbantractor9125 I found doing real work with my bx to hard. Its just not strong enough. I traded in mine fpr a L2501
If a person only read the owner’s manual before attempting to overload either tractor.....
Well just goes to show all tractors have their pro's n con's in different situations. Think you may of put a frown on the orange folks though... I love my deere, and if it takes awhile longer to accomplish certain duties, that's a plus for more tractor time. Very fair video of differences TTWT... thanks.
Another very good comparison. It wasn't a surprise to me to see that the JD could lift more but it was a surprise to see exactly how much less the BX could lift in the forklift comparison. Even though that is disappointing to me as a BX owner, I am happy that I now have a real world example of how much mine can lift. Thank you!
That's for this video. This one was the one I was look forward to
What an eye opener, thank you. You have blown me away by how little each can actually lift in the real world.
Yep. Much more at ground level, but at full height, the capacity is limited.
I am looking at both of these tractors. I appreciate your honest reviews. I think both will do what I need. The front loader curl and lift simultaneously was one of my concerns.
Katriel says "FUN sized!" I died!
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Multiple functions on the FEL: I fly R/C airplanes and controllers have two joysticks that give four controls in three dimensions plus throttle. Smooth flight rerquires multiple imputs for throttle (speed), rudder (yaw). elevator (elevation) and ailerons (roll) simultaneously; which marks an experienced pilot. Takes some practice. Transitioning to my JD 1025R it didn't take me long to apply the same smoothness in two-axises to the bucket that I had to a model aircraft to get smooth movements. It's like music or golf. Timing and rhythm. Zen tractoring.
I bought an EA 185 Lb. Hardox 42" tine pallet fork and, while pricy, it has almost paid for itself in the savings of not needing a lift gate for palleted goods I have had shipped to my home. When you can get shippers to agree to a residential address shipment, that is. If not, for lifting them off the trailer when I get home. Weighs less so I can lift more. Probably my most used attachment, as I use it to shuffle my other attachments out of shelter and also as a firewood shagger to carry logs or split wood on pallet "cribs" with side rails. Another great use is to stab and turn/aerate the compost heap!
Keep them coming Tim! Really big difference in this test. I really like that you are taking almost every scenario possible.
Nice comparison, I owned a BX tractor w/ loader and loved it, however the biggest weakness was the lifting capacity
Whow tim that is a big difference between the two tractors 💪💪
Great comparison. This is a clear advantage of the 1025 and applications in real life.
Great video! I'm still looking for a comparison between either of these machines and a GC1723E. I use one at work and I love it!
I surely enjoy your videos. I can tell you have many gifts, and you share His gifts in very neat ways. I marvel (and sometimes chuckle) at the correlation between the video content and the Scripture passage. Keep ‘em coming “good and faithful servants”!
This scripture almost stung when related to this video. Made me go back and double check our work! That is for sure!!!
In Canada this is called a Tim's double double. Lol. Great video. Glad I went with the mean green hulk machine. Keep them coming👍
Really telling Tim!!! Great job at devising a real world test!!
Thank you for taking the time to make these comparison videos. I recently purchased a Kubota. When comparing between the Kubota and Deere two items stood out for the type of work I am currently using it for. (1) Using a grapple, with the Kubota the addition of the third function capability is really convenient and a factory option. The buttons are located on the knob of the joystick. When I inquired about this with the Deere it seemed to be more of an afterthought and more inconvenient. Deere did say it was available in the 3000 series. (2) The ability to quickly change attachments on the Kubota. This has been wonderful. I realize the ability to do this requires an attachment on the loader arms which decreases lift capacity but for my uses the tradeoff is worth it. Currently I am moving a lot of 5'-8' logs and obviously the length depends on the trunk diameter but have not had an issue with the Kubota grapple and lift capacity. About a year ago my property got hit by a couple tornadoes resulting in over 150 downed trees and the ability to quickly attach/detach attachments as well as a convenient third function switch has made the job much easier. As you mentioned, they are both good tractors and it just comes down to what your needs are.
Deere has a quick attach bucket which is standard without the weight penalty of SSQA.
Both now have factory 3rd function options. Deere only introduced theirs in 2019...Kubota had it a couple of years earlier as you indicate.
We were considering one of the other color tractors until we watched this video. After seeing this comparison, we are set to purchase a Deere:) This is a VERY informative video! Thank you! By the way, the "twin Tims" video editing was amazing! ROFL
Yes. Christy came up with that. I was just being lazy and didn’t move the camera. Christy took my lemons and made lemonade...as usual!
@@TractorTimewithTim Great idea Christy!
Tim you have done a great job with comparing the Kubota vs John Deere. I can’t imagine anyone doing a better job. I really enjoy watching your videos!!!
Big thanks to Tim, his wife, Johnny and Martha. About 6 months ago started researching small tractors....to help with my dead and dying ash trees as a result of the Emerald Ash Borer. Im tired, getting old, have taken down about 30 large ash trees with simple old fashioned tools and procedures. Hoping a tractor will give me a helping hand...help save my back.. with another 40 trees that need to be taken down....
I reside in Southern Ontario, Canada. I must say that this loader comparison video was the very very most important video in my months of researching...along with watching My Cluttered Garage, GP Outdoors, Messicks to name a few of my favourites. My eyes were opened in regards to lift capacity of the two models...
To back track a little, a few years back a friend needed somewhere to park his 20?? series compact Deere. He parked it at my house, and allowed me use of it. I was surprised with the capabilities of the front end loader or should I say incapabilities when I went to pick up a large rock. Now, in fairness, I was a total newbie and really didnt know what I was doing, so Im not knocking the tractor. Anyways, this stuck in my head, and came to light during Tims comparison video. I went tractor shopping....1025R and BX23S. In my area, Johnnies were quoted at $6000 more than the comparable Orange Kubbies!!!. I wasnt real impressed with the Green Salesman and the dealership was 30 minutes away. I was impressed with the Orange salesman, the dealership is 10 minutes away and I have done business with them before. So, I took the $6000 extra and moved up to a B2601 TLB orange Kubbie. Presently anxiously awaiting delivery with hopes these troubled times dont hold it up too much. R14 tires, 3rd function etc are all back ordered, but dealer is expecting basic tractor delivery sometime this month..hopefully. Thanks again for your efforts and time in posting your vids. OH, by the way, your channel is the very first channel I have ever subscribed to.
Thanks for the kind words! Thanks for subscribing!
I bought a landpride box blade from a guy that bought it new with his Kubota bx2370 and never used it and it could barely lift it into my truck. He jacked up the throttle and still wouldn't lift it high enough. He lowered it and tilted it and then was able to get it just high enough to load it into the bed of my truck. I'm just driving a standard 1500 Ram. I came home and lifted it out with my 1025r at idle and barely felt it on the loader. I can also do two functions at the same time with my loader on my 2018 1025r and easy to find the sweet spot. Not sure if the 2018 is easier, but watched videos of previous models like Messick's review saying how terrible and hard it was to find it on the 1025r and made my decision difficult. So far, still glad I went green, especially after seeing the Kubota struggle with lifting a box blade into a truck.
Yeah with my kubota 2620 I can lift my 5 foot bush hog hanging off my bucket as high as I want like 3 point is facing the bucket and still lift it with it being 4 foot off the front the BX series must have the hydros plumbed differently than the 1025r's
@@jasperpetersen8241 That's a B series. Not really a comparison in my book to the subcompacts like the BX series or JD 1023/1025 series.
@@cashxx I wasn't comparing them I was just saying for everything else similar in HP the bx series hydraulic performance is kinda weak Hence why I think it is plumbed differently for hydraulics than everything else because my to Botha 2620 is only one horsepower more and it has plenty of hydraulic power so that must be hydraulically plumbed differently than the B series Hence why I brought it up thinking that might be what is causing the weak hydraulic performance from the kubota BX series
You have done a great job with this comparison series.
Kubota is a Kubota and John Deere is whatever and quality and dependability Kubota is king.
This is one of the deciding factors for me.
I'd love to see this same loader comparison between the 1025r vs your 2038r
Plenty of time for that. Good idea
Yes! Especially because you got me really looking at the 2038r. This is the main function I'm looking for.
I would love to see it as well. I have a 2018 2032r, and recently attempted to move a pallet of concrete bags off our trailer to our morton building. The forklift at Menards had no problem with placing the pallet load on our trailer, but I ended up having to manually move half the bags onto another pallet in order to unload with my forks... I didn't expect to come anywhere near the capacity of the forklift, but was a little bit disappointed with the "real world" loader capability since I was only attempting to lift a minimal height. My car hauler sits lower than Tim’s B Wise, but even at the lower height, I only managed 13 - 60# bags (780#) of concrete on one pallet. That plus the forks and the weight of the pallet conservatively places the total weight at around 1,150# and I had the majority of the bags closer to the fork frame to help with lift. That load is only about 180# more than Tim lifted with the 1025r in this video... I was expecting a 300+# difference between the 1025r/110r and the 2032r/220r. Tim’s Artillian fork setup may be slightly different than my Titan, and the large hardwood pallet used for concrete may weigh a bit more - so there could be some slight variability there, but the weight distribution and lift height were definitely in my favor. Would be great to see an “apples to apples” comparison with the 1025r and 2038r.
If you're going to do that comparison why not throw an L Series Kubota in there
Don’t have one!
Great comparison. The forklift test was eye opening. Need a loader that will lift when you need it to.
Great test! Very simply explains a lot about lifting capabilities. Good work. Lovely signature proverb, too. Captures frustration!
Thanks for the kind words. Hope you get a chance to check out some of our other videos.
I’m not surprised, this is why I traded my BX for JD due to the lifting capacity. The BX always seem to fail lifting heavy weights, but now my 1025R always amazes me on the weight it will lift.
Big question is what does Neil think of all this?
Neil V Tim tractor showdown!
In all seriousness this is an incredibly practical comparison. I’m quite surprised about many of the outcomes.
Tim great job, one thing I have done in the past with Skid steers while lifting pallets full of landscape blocks that were too heavy to lift, was to rock the hydrostatic levers and bounce the machine forward and backward and you can usually lift just a little bit higher with the bouncing of the machine to get it off the ground high enough to just move the pallet.
Yep. Lots of little tricks to get those extra few pounds lifted!!
I have a 790 and 3032E tractors from John Deere and they can lift quite a bit, but I have not measured how much they lifted and they both are speedy also and I out drove my brother while on the 3032E and my brother on his Mahindra tractor as we drove about 4 miles one way to do work at our church and I beat him driving there and back home.
It's all about max oil pressure, just tune the valve and you can tip your kubota without any problem 😉😄
Is the world ready for 2 Tim's!
Scary isn’t it?!
@@TractorTimewithTim Naw! Just more informational videos. Dueling Tim's
Ok, now do Vinny!
I've always wondered what Ventrac would do with a loader... not expecting it to beat either, just curious
Excellent and (reasonably) fair video, but what does this really show? It shows the largest possible nail/spike an under-sized hammer can drive in. I can eventually get a 16-penny framing nail through a header with a tack hammer, but comparing one tack-hammer to another for that application only shows the inadequacies of both. For most loader work one might do with a sub-compact tractor (moving gravel, for example) the ability to lift and curl smoothly and simultaneously cannot be understated. The old adage about figuring out what size tractor you "need", and then buying the next size up, is demonstrated very well in this video. Use the right tool for the work being done instead of pressing a garden tractor into the realm of a utility tractor. If a sub-compact is what you've got to work with, you're compromising from the start...adjust your work load accordingly?
Great video, Tims. Quite shocking differences in this one, for sure. Couple that with the turning circle shocker from the last video, and I'm definitely leaning green in this comparison.
💥 This will be one of your best videos I’m sure. The results are in and I’m disappointed in the BX. It should do better than that. I hope Kubota finds a way to get more out of their loaders. Might be time to shim things up a bit.
Your comparison looked very fair to me. I hope “Kubota” pays attention to this. This will effect their sales.
Keep on tractoring! 👍
Thanks Jon. This is the worst of it for the bx. The rest will be better.
Two Tim’s, two tractors... It just can’t get any better
This is a great comparison. Thank you! 💯💯💯
It looks like Johny is winning. Fare test. Not what a dealer would. Thanks for showing us the differences between these two Tractors.
God Bless.
Awesome REAL WORLD tests!!
Wow! That was shocking. The only thing more impressive than your editing was the loader Lift capacity between these 2 Tractors. I wasn't surprised at what Johnny could lift because I know what I lifted with mine but I was surprised at how much the BX couldn't lift. I'd be curious to see if our buddy Neil post a comment on this one and what it might be. Are there more comparisons To come Tim? Thanks again my friend look forward to the next one.
As Chuck Berry said in his song " Go Johnny Go" . Great video guys . Just wondering if there was enough money in the filming budget to cover the cheeseburger costs for 2 Tims.
Oh my. We didn't consider the extra food budget!
Pretty interesting test. I have never run into maxing out the lift capacity yet on my bx. I did slide my xb tiller from the bed of my 1987 Chevy 4x4 onto the bucket and lower it to the ground without any troubles. So with crate, just shy of five hundred pounds and I was able to hold it there (I would guess three feet off the ground) and slowly lower it to the ground.
I have found that the curling force is my best friend while using the loader to dig. I usually drive straight into it then curl to break free and then I can lift it up when I couldn't just lift it straight up. What it comes down to is you find work-arounds to get the job done with the equipment you have no matter the brand. As long as you aren't just plain dumb about it, you will be amazed what you can accomplish with such a small tractor.
I ran into multiple situations where it maxed out mine. It seems like lots of home owners toss out opinions on the bx and never even put them to use. I have a small farm and my bx was way under powered...waiting on my L2501 to be delivered
It didn't work for you but it has done everything I have asked it to. You have to match the equipment to the actual jobs you need it to do. It sounds to me like you were asking too much of the bx. That's my opinion and if someone is wanting a tractor for mowing, hauling a little dirt around the yard, tilling, and a host of other chores around the house I would definitely recommend a bx or any other sub compact. If you want to bale hay or bush hog large fields I wouldn't.
@@ChrisBrown-mq5cz It is truly a garden tractor. Its a great home owner garden tractor. It cant do the lightest farm work. I wish people were more honest about the pros and cons of the bx tractors. Nothing wrong with what it is.. a garden tractor!
Your gauge of a garden tractor are vastly different than mine.
@@ChrisBrown-mq5cz Lipstick on a pig. Up untill recently JD garden tractors had factory loaders and lots still have pto options, still can buy after market loaders. The BX is the same size if not a few inches smaller then the current JD x7xx series and others that JD calls garden tractors. Thats why so many were saying that the bx shouldnt have been used and insted a B series should have been because have much more underpowered the bx is. No hard feelings, I just bought another Kubota product! Hoping L2501 is dropped off today!
I love that you had the tractor nuetral shirt on.
The kubota weight capacity increases a lot by shimmng the pump. Kubota has it adjusted low from factory.
This is a perfectly executed side by side test of the John Deere Tractor and the Kubota TOY ! This is an absolute embarrassment to Kubota. The sad thing is, I have the Kubota with the exact LA 344 Loader. I am so glad you pointed this out!
I love my 1023E! That’s why I’m a Deere fan!
Scrolled through all the comments looking for a retort from Messick's 😁
Neil commented.
Great tests, Tim and Tim, Christy, and Katriel. I wouldn't have thought there would have been that much difference in those comparisons. I like my 1025R.
Great editing Christy.
First, love your video's and approach. I have posted a few times in an effort to provide some real world examples to support your great information. I have a BX23s, i have had a B2650 and Deere 2038R in the past. I like both Brands.
Today I was able to move my Trailer, Dry weight of 6,900 pounds, packed but with no liquids for camping with my BX23s. The Tongue weight of the trailer is 685 pounds. I used a titan hitch from amazon that slides onto the face of your pallet forks (you remove the forks).
The BX lifted, pulled, turned and controlled the trailer without any issues or worries. I put it between 2 trees and need to get around a rock wall. Summary: The BX23s can handle 685 tongue weight on a 6,900 dry weight trailer over grass.
Hope you decide to make more video series in the future, ignore all the haters!!
Since you have the crane scale you could use it find somewhere to over hang a load you know you cannot move, and see what curl weight is applied and lift. Could even use different buckets/grapple/forks to see what it affects.
I like these real world test need to do on a 25 tym and a kioti cx2510 and throw in a mahindra 26xlt and fergie true results love it
Oh good grief 2 Tims. I dont think the world can handle 2, but maybe this means twice as many videos. Poor Christy
Hey Now!! For a few seconds there, the world was a better place :-)
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Thank goodness it was only for a few seconds, LOL
Yeah, who knew he was a twin?!
Coming soon, 4 Randalls!!!
Hope we don’t all have to fit in the cab of the 5075e!!!
I just did this with aluminum bucket forks on a danco loader on a cub 149 from the 70s with a 400 lb stone on the front and it lifted it great no problem to trailer deck height...
Never knew you had a twin brother.
Also never seen pallet forks used inverted. Pretty cool you can lift 2 feet higher.
i bought a Kubota B2620 and im really happy with it i can get at least 900 pounds at max height leveled and for my purposes thats more than enough the kubota bx was a little disappointing but its all relevant its more so about what you can get serviced and parts for if you live around nothing but deere dealerships then it would be foolish to buy a kubota and vise versa its really all about whats around you and what your purpose is i personally needed the extra ground clearance the Kubota B series offered me but that might not be the same for others and in my area Kubota reins so thats what i bought as anyone else would do
Wow. Just wow. Epic smack down using just useable facts. Nice video.
Nicely done
Great real world test. Enjoyed watching your twin brother on the lift and curl demo! 😀
I think that other Tim is even better looking than me!!! :-)
Omg neil from messicks must be pulling his hair out on this video.
He'd be pointing out the smaller Kubota lifts higher sacrificing lift capacity
LOL
Very interesting, and honestly, very surprising. I'm a fan of the JD quick attach, and I'm sure the Kubota was hurt by the SSQA system, both in wight and extra distance of the load from the pins imposed by that system.
how about 1025R vs MF GC equivalent?
Yes i would like to see MF 1725 and john 1025r...
Wow that 2025R sure did look good! Great video again Tim and Christy!
Thanks again, Matt! Very good memories! You are a wonderful man.
Love the case tee shirt.
Hey, Tim, I am a BX owner who will testify that not only was that a fair comparison of FEL capacities, but you actually lifted more on the BX than I could do with my BX. Given that the BX and 1000 series are about the same vehicle weight and hp, Kubota needs to do some engineering on their hydraulic systems. Can't say if it is the pump or the lines or what, but they are losing.
I think it is a geometry issue. The loader sticks out much further to the front than the Deere. This creates huge leverage disadvantage.
The differences in capacity decrease as the loader lifts higher.
Love this guy!! Such a great job with these videos. Oh, I love tractors, too 🥰
Nice editing - at first I thought Christie was on Johnny, but in the same thought was thinking, hey Christie's handling that pretty smoothly, she's upped her game - lol
She has upped her game in the editing department, that is for sure!!’
I know your a couple years in on these, but if you place links to the whole series in the description it makes it easier for the viewer and so would also get you more views.
Each video links to the next in the end screen. Also, we have a playlist which contains all of them
@@TractorTimewithTim thanks for the reply! Maybe I'm not doing it right, but it would work better for me all listed in the description. Personal preference and I'm only one person, but that's my 2 cents. Thanks for the videos!
Always good to see Katriel. Seems she is near the perfect height ( As tall as her mother, also her legs go all the way to the ground, Perfect ). I went from Pittsburgh to the Penn State Ag Progress Days - got to dream and see some tractors and post frame buildings. Now I know how big a 1025R is and a B series Kubota. Thank always and take care.
OMG! Awesome lil vid trick with you running both tractors at the same time.
It seemed obvious that the BX is lacking in its ability to lift slight to moderately heavy objects. This doesn’t make it useless. If you have no plans to lift heavier objects and you find a good deal on one then it’s fine. Just buyer beware.
how does the smallest Kubota B series compare?