After feathering I look only at the cue ball to make sure I hit the correct point on the cue ball. Works fine. I tried looking at the object ball but didn't work for me.
Thank you Cool Mind, during feathers I would look up at least once to the OB. Otherwise there is too much risk that you come off the line of aim, and will have to correct this on the backswing or delivery. Think of it as just checking you are on the line of aim. No pro looks exclusively at the cue ball during cueing, backswing, and delivery - and for good reason.
I'm guessing one reason someone might want to look at the object ball on or shortly after delivery is to help the memory process. If you're not tracking the line of the cue ball as it approaches and hits the object ball, then you are missing out on aiming information. In which case how would you memorise and improve your aim in the long term?
Nic I was wondering, _why_ exactly do players look at the object ball at the end of the backstroke. One would think logically that if you can do your backstroke properly while looking at the cue ball, then you should be able to also do your forward stroke smoothly while looking at the cue ball. Is this just one final, last-second check to see if they are on-line? And if so, does that mean players will sometimes do their final backstroke and then suddenly stop and get up? Also I would like to know a little more about the feathering eye pattern. I'm sure every player has their own unique feathering eye pattern, but it would be interesting to see how the flicking of the eyes synches up with the feather strokes. Like whether they do more feathering while looking at the cue ball or at the object ball. I'm sure the pros have optimised this in different ways, since the feathering ties together the two visual perspectives. My guess is that it would be largely uni-directional, e.g. the player would feather at a point on the cue ball while looking at the cue ball, then they glance up and check the line, then they look at the cue ball again and feather at a point on the cue ball etc. But perhaps some players flick their eyes up and down mid-stroke in order to try and tie it together better. It's an interesting topic. Edit: There is an interesting video on Stephen Hendry's channel where Neil Robertson talks about his feathering eye pattern: 'Neil Robertson Shares His SECRETS For Long Potting Success!'
Ultimately pros need the majority of their cueing time with eyes on CB as you cannot aim the OB unless the tip is correctly on the CB. Also, on delivery every players has a preference after testing both options which ball they should look at on impact - test both and go with the one which yields best results.
Thanks I'm beginning to learn just how important that first sentence of yours is. Online coaches often mention looking at the cue ball in order to not put unintentional side on, but I'm slowly discovering just how important it is for aiming in general@@TheSnookerGym
Fascinating stuff! This is certainly something that should come off naturally (whichever style you choose, some players may actually look at their cue in the backswing) once you reach a certai level i.e. not an being an absolute beginner. I remember Ronnie once saying (when he was asked where he's looking) that he doesn't really know where he's looking at while playing the shot and sometimes finds himself looking at the cue ball. So that's probably the "cue ball style" right there. When it comes to myself, I honestly have no idea. I certainly watch the cue ball a lot more than the object ball (which probably is advicable) but I'm not sure if I glance at the cue ball on the delivery. If I really imagine hard I'd say probably not.
Yes Emo many players do not know where they look and I usually leave it that way because picking up new eye pattern habits is probably the toughest thing for players to co-ordinate. Unless they have random eye patterns in which case, I will help them choose a pattern and stick to it... I will put in the description about players not being aware as I forgot to add that last night!
Thank you POV... I enjoy your videos. If you look at the clip, you will see that the eyes are on the cb when the cueing finishes, and for around half the backswing to check in the peripheral vision that the backswing is straight. Most pros do this, although some look up as the backswing begins.
Hey Mr. Barrow, Im from Germany and wanna setup our Snooker Club with a camera. Maybe you can tell me your setup where you can see the whole table. Greetings, I love your content. Vincent
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Do you think there are merits to one or another? 1 train of thought is the hand follows the eyes, so look where you want to strike IE the object ball. Another train of thought is something I heard that mark Williams said : why would you not look at the white, you are just guessing where you are hitting it if you don’t look. .... closest comparison would be golf I suppose - in that case you focus on the ball, not where you want it to go.....it’s an interesting topic ....
By the same rationale, why would you not look at the object ball as you are guessing if you don't look! Ultimately each player will have a choice and preference based on which option gives them best results. personally, I strike the ball better when looking at the cue ball - but have low potting confidence and my standard reduces
@@TheSnookerGym yes fair point - I can’t imagine looking at the cueball myself - but i get the theory it may Improve the consistency of strike and timing....I suppose the alignment to the shot is done at address so the need to look at the object ball could be deemed unnecessary - where as looking at the cue ball offers something in terms of the actual shot.....I say all this but I absolutely need to look at the OB at strike - but maybe that’s because my alignment is awful 😂
Wow this is quite disturbing I’ve been playing wrong all my life. I just shot on my table keeping eyes on the cue ball and I’m potting balls easily that would always cost me a few tries. I could see my game go to another level if I can reteach myself!
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I have transcended the need to look at any ball, and exist on a non physical plane. As Rumi once said: "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I'll meet you there!"
Fantastic demonstration!!
Thank you sir
After feathering I look only at the cue ball to make sure I hit the correct point on the cue ball. Works fine. I tried looking at the object ball but didn't work for me.
Thank you Cool Mind, during feathers I would look up at least once to the OB. Otherwise there is too much risk that you come off the line of aim, and will have to correct this on the backswing or delivery. Think of it as just checking you are on the line of aim.
No pro looks exclusively at the cue ball during cueing, backswing, and delivery - and for good reason.
@@TheSnookerGym , yes that's what I am doing. During feathering looking at both balls. When striking only at the cue ball. Great to hear that's okay.
Test both options and see what gives the best result
I'm guessing one reason someone might want to look at the object ball on or shortly after delivery is to help the memory process. If you're not tracking the line of the cue ball as it approaches and hits the object ball, then you are missing out on aiming information. In which case how would you memorise and improve your aim in the long term?
Very good point - agreed but most club players don't believe this as they think there is an aiming light switch they can turn on
Your explanation of parallel line aiming system isn't cerect, and it does work
I could agree with you, but I would be wrong! I do, however, await a proof for your alternative facts!
Nic I was wondering, _why_ exactly do players look at the object ball at the end of the backstroke. One would think logically that if you can do your backstroke properly while looking at the cue ball, then you should be able to also do your forward stroke smoothly while looking at the cue ball. Is this just one final, last-second check to see if they are on-line? And if so, does that mean players will sometimes do their final backstroke and then suddenly stop and get up? Also I would like to know a little more about the feathering eye pattern. I'm sure every player has their own unique feathering eye pattern, but it would be interesting to see how the flicking of the eyes synches up with the feather strokes. Like whether they do more feathering while looking at the cue ball or at the object ball. I'm sure the pros have optimised this in different ways, since the feathering ties together the two visual perspectives. My guess is that it would be largely uni-directional, e.g. the player would feather at a point on the cue ball while looking at the cue ball, then they glance up and check the line, then they look at the cue ball again and feather at a point on the cue ball etc. But perhaps some players flick their eyes up and down mid-stroke in order to try and tie it together better. It's an interesting topic.
Edit: There is an interesting video on Stephen Hendry's channel where Neil Robertson talks about his feathering eye pattern:
'Neil Robertson Shares His SECRETS For Long Potting Success!'
Ultimately pros need the majority of their cueing time with eyes on CB as you cannot aim the OB unless the tip is correctly on the CB.
Also, on delivery every players has a preference after testing both options which ball they should look at on impact - test both and go with the one which yields best results.
Thanks I'm beginning to learn just how important that first sentence of yours is. Online coaches often mention looking at the cue ball in order to not put unintentional side on, but I'm slowly discovering just how important it is for aiming in general@@TheSnookerGym
when you shoot, do you flick your eyes down at the curb ball?
No I keep at OB - but many pros look at CB. Both are fine - it is personal preference.
sir can you explain aim from grip
It is in other videos on channel
thanks again nice demonstration sir älways appreciate your worķ
So nice of you Diwa - you have the longest user name in the history of the Tube Of Faces!
Fascinating stuff! This is certainly something that should come off naturally (whichever style you choose, some players may actually look at their cue in the backswing) once you reach a certai level i.e. not an being an absolute beginner. I remember Ronnie once saying (when he was asked where he's looking) that he doesn't really know where he's looking at while playing the shot and sometimes finds himself looking at the cue ball. So that's probably the "cue ball style" right there.
When it comes to myself, I honestly have no idea. I certainly watch the cue ball a lot more than the object ball (which probably is advicable) but I'm not sure if I glance at the cue ball on the delivery. If I really imagine hard I'd say probably not.
Yes Emo many players do not know where they look and I usually leave it that way because picking up new eye pattern habits is probably the toughest thing for players to co-ordinate. Unless they have random eye patterns in which case, I will help them choose a pattern and stick to it... I will put in the description about players not being aware as I forgot to add that last night!
Hey Nic both of these eye cue actions involve looking at the cueball as you backswing?
Thank you POV... I enjoy your videos. If you look at the clip, you will see that the eyes are on the cb when the cueing finishes, and for around half the backswing to check in the peripheral vision that the backswing is straight. Most pros do this, although some look up as the backswing begins.
@@TheSnookerGym
Thanks Nic. I used to do this a long time ago and thought it was incorrect but it seemed to help my cueing today. I’ll keep at it
Well done
Hey Mr. Barrow, Im from Germany and wanna setup our Snooker Club with a camera. Maybe you can tell me your setup where you can see the whole table. Greetings, I love your content. Vincent
Thank you Vincent you can contact me here: Full details of directions on how to reach The Snooker Gym Academy can be found here...
www.thesnookergym.com/contact-us
I usually look at the cue ball while I pull my cue back, and look at the OB as I deliver. Does that mean i am neither?
An OB player looks at OB on tip impact - same for CB player
Thanks ☺️
welcome
How can I stop pushing the cue to the left as my elbow ends up out side the line on the push through, amazing videos 😊
Hope these help:
Stance Optimisations - Back Toe
Position & Back Foot Angle ruclips.net/video/B0zeikr4DfM/видео.html
Stance Optimisations - Front Foot
Width, Open or Square ruclips.net/video/tTYCu8yW4uI/видео.html
Delivery Tests - Delivery Errors Left & Right ruclips.net/video/X3JXU6KwQbE/видео.html
www.thesnookergym.com/gems
Can it be applied in billiard?
For sure
Basically, just like golf
Do you think there are merits to one or another? 1 train of thought is the hand follows the eyes, so look where you want to strike IE the object ball. Another train of thought is something I heard that mark Williams said : why would you not look at the white, you are just guessing where you are hitting it if you don’t look. .... closest comparison would be golf I suppose - in that case you focus on the ball, not where you want it to go.....it’s an interesting topic ....
By the same rationale, why would you not look at the object ball as you are guessing if you don't look! Ultimately each player will have a choice and preference based on which option gives them best results. personally, I strike the ball better when looking at the cue ball - but have low potting confidence and my standard reduces
@@TheSnookerGym yes fair point - I can’t imagine looking at the cueball myself - but i get the theory it may Improve the consistency of strike and timing....I suppose the alignment to the shot is done at address so the need to look at the object ball could be deemed unnecessary - where as looking at the cue ball offers something in terms of the actual shot.....I say all this but I absolutely need to look at the OB at strike - but maybe that’s because my alignment is awful 😂
i have the both ways😂😂😂
i think looking at the cue ball helps avoiding any side spinn,,,, which is the actual cause of missing the balls
Yes there are pros who use both options... there is no dogma in the game.
Fair point
Nick I've got eyes like bus stops....one here and one round the corner...
Oh dear!
Wow this is quite disturbing I’ve been playing wrong all my life. I just shot on my table keeping eyes on the cue ball and I’m potting balls easily that would always cost me a few tries. I could see my game go to another level if I can reteach myself!
Thank you for the feedback Eric - let us know updates! Or you can join us here for more in depth support: www.thesnookergym.com/beat-your-highest-break-club
Object ball, and a bad one at that!
What are you Nic ?
I have transcended the need to look at any ball, and exist on a non physical plane. As Rumi once said: "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I'll meet you there!"
@@TheSnookerGym ز کفر و ز اسلام برون صحرائیست
ما را به میان آن فضا سودائیست
So Beautifully referred to 😀
Thank you
I'm a object ball player 😊
I know the feeling!
@@TheSnookerGym 😂😂
Object ball player.
Me too!