there was an advanced global civilization before our modern time. perhaps many times over and over. something wiped us out and destroyed most of the evidence. I can't think of a better theory and I dont know why more people don't study this! it's absolutely mind-blowing! Never stop Brien, one day ill buy a ticket to see these with my own eyes
We are not the first advanced civilization on this planet, the native American hopie tribe & the hindu yuga cycle both tell how we are the 4th cycle on its decline
thank you for answering in advance my thoughts, I see perfect fitting between block, what have you seen in the interior blocks of pyramids, do they fit as this or there are gaps as from random block, I do not mean cover stones which I see perfect fitting cheers
Does this include the Roman columns as well? I ask because I understand that they were the Kings of Concrete tech. The Baalbek site’s history reminds me of the vestigial ruin inheritance by the Egyptian Dynastic civilization and probably the same as what the Greeks experienced and incorporated into their mythos. As the Egyptian scholars told the Ancient Greeks, theirs is but a very young civilization built on the foundations of something much older and more sophisticated.
How about *melted* and poured? These are worn enough that it's hard to tell, but some of those walls in Peru look every bit like they were poured in place. Though they're clearly not concrete.
So glad u got urself commentary without wind on mic...this is bucket list for me that i know i will never tick off so thank you for taking me Brian....keep up the good work
The small stones under the big stones are for shock absorption during earthquakes , advanced engineering for the time ... this place is much more older than they , like a previous advanced civilization that they denie
Thank you so much Brien! It's a treat for those of us who cannot travel out there. There must be a way to carefully move a stone (or found one already moved) and take samples of trapped organic materials left there at the time of construction - insects, pollen, leaves, etc. In the worst case, a contamination of recent organics would be easily discarded, while the eldest material would tell when they were laid on top of eachother. It would need special permission but it could be done scientifically and it would be soooooo worth it! My bet is that it predates the great flood, and was built by Sumerians. Thanks again. Your channel is like an exotic vacation, and you're an outstanding tourist guide, shedding light on our lost past history.
My guess is that this building, like so many megalithic works was unfinished; it's hard to imagine that stonework on this scale could ever have been dismantled or destroyed without the evidence being all around. Furthermore, they were still quarrying these enormous blocks.
So.... I have 2 give you the credit of being the one and only RUclips channel that not only has the most detailed content on this entire platform... But the vast majority of all the great ancient structures on earth... So what im trying 2 say is you hold the first place trophy for ancient video.. no one comes close 2 you.... no I dont just say this stuff... I've looked at this platform for years trying 2 find you.... Thank you for all your hard work.. in the future theirs a good chance schools will look at your channel for teaching students...
The size of these stones are amazing. We are not even able to duplicate this today without developing specialized equipment to handle the task yet many thousands of years ago they could. I can't help but wonder what that time in history and the structures they built must have looked like.
Even for the best mobile crane lifter would be a serious challenge to lift those blocks, the only mobile vehicle that can lift more than 500 tons is the Liebherr LTM 11200-9.1, its a huge vehicle with more than 18 wheels and it can lift 1200 and i am pretty sure it wont operate with those 1200 maximum weight in any terrain, it will certainly need very flat solid terrain to be cappable of doing it so... Needless to say, the Romans didnt lift those stones, neither who ever was there after... This stones are way older than we can date them, they were cut using high precision tools and who ever put them there was likely more advanced than we are today.
We can do this today if we have fire, rock, rope, timber and a shit ton of labour. If we had either the time or inclination to 👍 A decent knowledge of rope rigging is pretty essential though
I would have liked to see more close up of those fine reliefs. I have a very hard time believing the Romans did such precision craftsmanship in this stone.
Romans had a very good stone work all over EU. I think they left some testimony about this place. They had the time and money to do something like this work (small stones).
WHY is it that no one talks about the MANY stories of the tombs in catacombs beneath Ba'albek? I learned about them almost 60 years ago and yet no one EVER speaks of them? Why?
The lathing tool must have been a very strong material to hold that weight and shape the pillars. I belive that we have an ancient forgotten history of knowledge and inventions, and that it pops up in our known history from time to time.
They were able to turn it into a fort because people did not travel very quickly back then, which gave them plenty of time to build, but it must have been an enormous task at that!
@ 2:17 min the pink granite cylinder is a cross groove for the drive end of a lathe the close up views the pink columns has to be spun there's no flat spots anywhere Thanks for the video Brien
@@johno9507 i highly doubt that`s what they were originally for, it`s not just this one or two there are examples all over Egypt, Christopher Dunn goes into great detail about why these single piece granite pillars were turned on lathe`s, not only because of the precision of the circumference along the entire length of the pillar, which is to within 50 microns accurate which is the thickness of a human hair approximately, but also tooling marks that can be seen, totally disproves the `these were made with diorite pounding balls and sand as an abrasive by a primitive culture`, the holes aren`t just holes like a tube hole where a wooden or stone peg was placed for alignment, these are cone shaped holes which if you go look at a lathe`s Live Centre is also cone shaped, i dare say they may have used this hole as an alignment tool when placing these pillars on their bases but i can`t see that being their original purpose.
I can even fathom how they did this.. the only thing I can possibly come up with is, with no distractions of modern world issues like taxes, bills, computers, phones, drama ect... this would enable people's minds to work together in greatness to come up with strategies. Synced minds of thousands of intellectual people that aren't distracted have endless amounts of time to wonder and create these unmatched marvels that will never be replicated in our life time. We have become lost as a society and far too separated. We need to link together with no distractions in order to once again unlock the magic that give us the power to create these wonderful monuments.
Kudos to you Brien for speaking out loud the obvious facts about all the megalithic sites having high technology to create manipulate hard stone and who knows the power source that was used, no one has the courage to speak the obvious except you and a few others, Whoever created these megalithic places they probably had the power and technology to to come and go from planet earth as well.
Great, fantastic tour around one of the most enigmatic places in the world. As in other ancient sites, we find the harder, to make, arquitechture at the bottom, while others add, less valuable items of their own style on top. Demonstrating that ancient civilizations new how to build, by far, a lot better. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
At 2.45 in imagine how much power was needed to spin these huge pieces of marble on lathes as they shaped them and then moved them. Absolutely mind boggling!
A-m-a-z-i-n-g!! I never knew the place is such filled with multi hundred ton blocks. people always only talk about the trilithon stones! so so much thank you mr. Foerster for letting us see all else of it! if this site was rediscovered by humans after few thousand of years, they'd assume it was built around 2000AD, because we are the only civilization even remotely capable of this size of stonework who they can discover from here.
It's amazing that modern academia wants the world to believe that Roman's built these structures when it is clearly obvious that is not the case. All they did is find and repurpose the places, stacking up old blocks to make walls again in a very haphazard way. A good portion of the smaller blocks show the Cyclopean hallmark of the raised rectangle on the front face. This same design is seen all over the world at ancient sites, alongside Polygonal rock work with the stone-softening techniques, like at Macchu Picchu. How someone could look at those truly amazing pink granite columns and believe that Roman's had the powered technology of giant stone lathing is mind boggling. The evidence of their construction stands out like a sore thumb and clearly is a slap in academia's face to their continued denial of letting the world know that our antediluvian cultures (more so the worldwide one that is evident everywhere, not just isolated pockets of people) were just as technologically advanced as we are now, though way more so in many ways due to their abilities of stone working, softening and concrete creation; flying vehicles that could travel into space with easy, as well as rain down atomic destruction when displeased (India's history is very open about that subject); the craftsmanship of making microscopic electronics; and the list goes on and on. Other than Brien, the two "Mystery History" YT channels have also covered the ancient knowledge, designs, technology and architecture of that modern academia strives to hide from the populace. Thanks for sharing another great video, Brien.
They did build these structures. A little research would reveal many simple engineering techniques for moving and placing the blocks, e.g., building wheels on the ends and middle then rolling them from the quarry to the site -- you can see come along holes drilled in the sides of the blocks. Something like this has been done in recent history: In the 18th Century Catherine the Great had her subjects move a 1500 ton stone on rails over frozen ground to St. Petersburg where it was used to make a monument.
@@markcorreale8495 Sorry, but moving small blocks is one thing, shifting megaton ones around is altogether a different thing. You can try all the wheels and man-power you have at the time, along with "come along holes", and you are not going to be moving those huge blocks. If you did, it would be at very tiny intervals and only in a straight line. Believe all you want that the bases of these structures were somehow constructed and moved by our more recent ancestors, but their advanced techniques of the time were not so well crafted as to carve and shift megalithic stones on a scale that size. Even a group of giants would be hard pressed to move those, though they are more likely the builders than modern man. The "Thunderstone" started off at 1500 tonnes, but got smaller and lighter during the flat overland trip since the sculptors were shaping it in-route. Now, try doing the same, but keeping the dimensions and weight equal to the foundation site, as well as moving it around to the proper alignment on unlevel ground. You can have thousands of people doing it, but getting one of them in place would be near impossible, let alone multiple stacked ones. Wooden tracks, ropes, frameworks and slings can only do so much. Yes, there have been some people that shifted small obelisk stones into a standing position using conceivable Old World methods, but they still had modern techniques to assist in certain ways and the stones were not that big.
Great video and thanks for sharing. I wonder how deep the chuck holes would have been originally? I maybe underestimating the strength of the granite; but I would have thought they'd have to be considerably deep as the weight of the columns would have made them snap in the middle if they were only supported at a thin depth at either end. Regardless, could the depth of the holes be used to identify the strength/properties of what ever was holding them in the lathe and the lathe itself?
Given the weight and length, yes vertical makes sense. Those holes looked more like positioning holes (dowel pins). It would not have been easy achieving that level of polish at a slow speed. Those tradesmen were absolutely the best this planet has seen!!!!!
Dear Brien, thank you a lot! Now I try to imagine to myself this Baalbek place WITHOUT smaller blocks and stones - only thrilitons. Interesting, what it was? What it could be firstly?
Remember 1000 years have been added to the timeline(Vatican). Dates were written with a capital letter J or I (number 1 replaced the capital letter adding 1000 years )then year. 1776 is really J or I 776 and this year is, not 2022 but 1022. Ancient Rome was not too long ago.
I'm a weights engineer. Only in the last hundred years have we had cranes capable of lifting those blocks. The Romans, who were amazing engineers, had a general weight limit of 5 tonnes. 1 cubic meter of stone is roughly 2.5 tonnes.
It must have been easy fro them to work with blocks of that size, otherwise they would much smaller size bricks like we do. Also look at the size of the doorways. It's like they where designed where designed for much larger people.
has there been underground observations? does the foundation go deeper? in Israel they dug under Solomon's temple (i think it was that place), and they found giant megalithic blocks exactly like these Baalbek ones.. great video, thank you so much
Strikes me looking at how far gone even the later work is, just how old are some of these megalithic sites where the weathering and damage is so much further along? Truly an amazing puzzle.
I have been to Baalbek myself and its really amazing. But what I don't see is what you and a lot of other similar channels seem to see. I would ask a few questions concerning your theories: 1. What makes you think, that the romans could not build such a structure, but much older civilizations could? 2. What do you think this, as you call it, megalithic structure, would have been good for without the roman temples on top of them? If there was a much older building made by megalithic structures, where should the stones ended up? If the romans could not build it, they could not remove the "much older" ruins either. 3. Isn't it just likely that the different color of the stones is caused by the fact that this part of Baalbek was covered by earth until it was excavated? 4. Isn't it just more likely that the romans just used these huge stones to build strong fundamentals to have their huge temples standing strong? 5. Have you ever been to, for example, Jerusalem? If you go to the western wall tunnels, you can see similar structures under the city with huge stones that are similar great fitting together, but just on the bottom of the structure for fundamentals. And the Temple Mount is Jerusalem was clearly build up at the times of Herod The Great at the end of the first century BC, the same timeframe you have for the Baalbek temples, just that the construction is Jerusalem was mentioned by a lot of historians of this time. My conclusion is: Only just because we don't know exactly how they did, it is not a good argument to conclude that a much older civilization could have been more advanced and been able to do it. The romans could have build it for sure, as you can see in Jerusalem (even though the Temple Mount was not build by the romans but by the jews) and other places in the ancient Middle East and around the Mediterranean.
At 10:07, is the angle of that massive corner block at all related to the angles of any of the pyramids at Giza or elsewhere? Maybe a dumb question but it popped into my head as soon as I saw Yousef.
I think that the GIANTS built these structures, imo. Also, at 10:52 minutes in, looks like someone was doing a lot of digging, hence the sand on top of the wall, and piled up at the bottom.
Holy crap. I'm a machinist. I want to see that lathe so bad, must have been giant. Giant faceplate at the headstock, giant tailstock...Man that must have been so cool
Does anyone have any theories on what these gigantic "lathes" looked like? Or theoretical drawings or plans. It's hard to wrap my head around a tool that could shape granite pillars by spinning them.
Vertical lathe is an interesting idea. I was picturing horizontal. Although the Greeks, Romans and many other ancient cultures achieved similar precision to the ancient Egyptions without giant lathes. Although I guess they did have steel tools.
After all these years I still can't understand how they executed such incredible stonework! Something is missing from the story. Some tool technology, transportation technology, or concrete technology that we still know nothing about. We need to study these sort of stones under an electron microscope.
You would think with all the ruins with the same masonry accuracy and so many years of archaeological study and findings that they would know how this was done. Another what they most likely considered is how surprising it is what humans can do by being persistent. Maybe like with the pyramids there was a spiritual motivation and peer group pressure that have profound impacts on the psyche. I wonder what they will find once they unravel the scrolls of Herculaneum, or open the vast store of literature held at the Vatican for centuries that is deteriorating. Thanks for a great video! I never heard of this place!
When you make dry fit stone walls,you need a "cap" stone to retain all the small pieces of the wall together. It is not rare to have a big stone on top of the others,that´s why the walls are almost intact and very well preserved I think.
The Pillar lying on it`s side, at it`s base is a `HOLE` right in the centre, i believe this could prove that these large pillars, as you surmised were in fact turned on a LATHE, in order to steady a large piece for turning it would have to be held in a 3 or 4 jaw chuck `possibly a 4 jaw as the rough pillar would have originally been square` one end and at the other you would drill a small centring hole and insert a `LIVE CENTRE` that rotates as the piece is turned i have some understanding of how to turn cylindrical objects on a lathe, as well as the LIVE CENTRE one end, they must have also employed a FIXED STEADY REST somewhere down it`s length to support the centre of the pillar to support the weight and to stop the piece bowing in the centre, the decorative details on the top that radius MUST have been cut with a `Button Insert` one of the channels i follow is an engineering channel called `Cutting Edge Engineering Australia` the guy on there Kurtis is always on lathe`s and mills and he shows how to take square stock and do what`s called `interrupted cuts` on a piece of square stock to eventually turn it into a perfect round piece or even tapered, i`m not sure whether these centring holes in these pillars have been seen and commented on before by you or Christopher Dunn, but i highly recommend you look into them and possibly even contact Chris and get his take on them, with this level of precision shown on these artefacts they MUST have been done on machines, there`s no way one could get this level of precision by hand, no matter how long you worked the material for, cheers mate, ive included a link to the CCE AUS channel where Kurtis makes some long bolts and then uses his end mill to form the 6 flat hex surfaces just to give you an idea. ruclips.net/video/J4Yy6oD1nis/видео.html&ab_channel=CuttingEdgeEngineeringAustralia
As a man studying #AncientArt, I always thought of you very highly, before I realized you couldn't reveal everything but through a slow disclosure, without being banned. Rumble is now on the stock market come over there, I'm sure they'll welcome you, I'm definitely not affiliated though, I love your work!
As we envision modern (horizontal) lathes, it seems easier to extend the concept of pottery-making to a vertical-mount lathe...turning platform and support frame.
Fantastic! but 'where are the tools' that worked these stones???? Surely there must be something found somewhere - or aren't we allowed to see such things. I wouldn't be suprised that in the dusty basement of an Egyptian museum there's a laser cutter or two!! (only partially joking!).
We have a 180 ft beam, 44O ft long sevtion of what was probably a six hundred ft wooden shpiwreck on Bailey's beach in New Zealand. It carbon dates 5000BC. But could be much older due to recent c14 adsorption. Supertanker size. Probably 100 thousand ton displacement. I have moved and launched ships up to 250 ton personally with ropes. People don't understand that stone and wood are the strongest and most durable technologies there are. The descent to ages of copper, down to iron, and plastic, and finally virtual fleeting microelectronic Fake reality means nothing we are doing now will be decipherable or even possible to recognise as civilization within a thousand years.
@@bob_frazier There's pictures, and an interview with Dargaville Maritime Museum founder and Historian the late Noel Hilliam on skeletons in the cupboard, 1& 2, cousin's across the Sea, by Plumtree productions. Can't remember which one the Ship piece is part of. But they are all must watch, well made and littered with the covered up real ancient history of NZ. Noel got the carbon dating done on that ship, Which is still there under the sand. It was exposed by a storm, and then buried again. If you turn up with grong penetrating radar, are going to publish the 3D mapping of it, and are prepared to be driven to the spot of the beach blindfolded ( it's 100 km long), there's people that will take you. But no-one wants it dug up and destroyed. Well some might still. But the Waitangi blood money has been paid, so it's becoming a lot easier to talk about the Ancestors, rather than keep pretending there was no-one here before the Maori invaded in 1350AD. It's still a little hot. If the Scott's all knew the English had teamed up with the Mongolian invasion to sack and claim their Ancestral homeland, would they stay in GB, with their North Sea oil and gas? Noel also had the Gene tests done on the 4000 BC skeletons in stone coffins in the stone city. That proved they were the same Genetically as the people in Wales at that time. Evidence backing up the Welsh legend of the ancestral homeland, an Island directly under the earth. Noel was a good friend of my late grandfather Dudley Lloyd, who grew up at Baileys beach, was Editor of the Dargaville Times, and President of the Returned Serviceman's Association for 25 years. He did Newspaper pieces on this and many other such things around there. But the paper got taken over and now the web is being sterilised. There will be microfiche records.
@@aaronfranklin324 Thanks Aaron! I'll be checking that out. Read a book once that talked about the possibility that there were huge ocean going ships out of China, could be one if them. Nice of you to respond. Cheers.
@@bob_frazier out of China/Into China who can really say? The Mummies from China around that time are those blue eyed blonde ones wrapped in Tartan cloth, Trussed in a fetal position like in Peru. The timber in that ship was possibly Chinese Teak. On the other hand it's very difficult to tell the difference between Teak and New Zealand Puririri, and with all the oral histories here from the early Tribes and in Australia and Vanuatu of how their ancestors walked between these locations, I find it very interesting, that Colonel James Churchwards Mu the Ancient Motherland of Humanity, shows a very accurate outline of Zealandia just slightly north and rotated, to fit his theory that it was submerged with mountains where Fiji Tonga etc are now. He spent 25years getting histories from Asia Polynesia, Australia, South American, including ancient maps. It may be that the "Tail of the Dragon" on these ancient maps is the land ridge of the Lord Howe rise that is a broad extension of the South Island, to West Cape North Island 400m average depth now. But with half that in Glacial times, and a icecap extending to Antarctica to our south. It would almost certainly have been Seesawed out of the water, and Extend to Asia. When the Waitaha left Wharrkaurinui (the great Green turtle, Nth America), and Waitangi Ki Roto ( singing of the waters within, South America) to RETURN to , Waitangi Ki Raro ( Singing of the Waters far away to the south, New Zealand) it was by very well mapped sea routes from ancient times when they left some twenty five thousand years ago. When the Oruanui Taupo Eruption triggered by deglaciation, obliterated most of the country, and it probably sank then. They do speak of the Ancient ones they learnt their knowledge from. I strongly Recommend Whispers of Waitaha, nice big Hardcover, NZ$50, $US25. You don't often find a contiguous oral history covering over 20000 years in 25 different countries. Not that it's All In That book. 🙄How could it be! 🤭 But it's friggen mind blowing what is.
If the Romans erected the megalithic columns what makes you think they didn't also place the megalithic blocks in the foundation? The columns would have been more difficult to construct than the blocks.
amazing topic ,raising thousands of questions ...like why this ancient evolved civilization with ....im sure numerous proof that we dont even know ab it,why was so carefuly hidden from humanity by "rulers " ? was like cutting off our roots
I would suggest the lathe was a vertical not a horizontal setup. Stone is very strong in compression but very weak in tension A horizontal setup would have the entire piece unsupported and it would snap in the middle under the stress of gravity. Engineering 101. Lathe probably rope belt driven as is a Roman granary mill is powered by donkeys turning a capstan.
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I must say, I never get tired of seeing this.
there was an advanced global civilization before our modern time. perhaps many times over and over. something wiped us out and destroyed most of the evidence. I can't think of a better theory and I dont know why more people don't study this! it's absolutely mind-blowing! Never stop Brien, one day ill buy a ticket to see these with my own eyes
Check out cosmographia and unchartedx
younger dryas event theory possibly ..
“wiped us out” ?
-there was no “us” in anything about those stones. let go of your ego, it’s holding you back.
@@mikebockey4125 lmao wuht? humans bro, humans.
We are not the first advanced civilization on this planet, the native American hopie tribe & the hindu yuga cycle both tell how we are the 4th cycle on its decline
No evidence of concrete or geopolymer here.
do you think Pyramids could be made with geopolymer? thanks again for amazing video
thank you for answering in advance my thoughts, I see perfect fitting between block, what have you seen in the interior blocks of pyramids, do they fit as this or there are gaps as from random block, I do not mean cover stones which I see perfect fitting cheers
Does this include the Roman columns as well? I ask because I understand that they were the Kings of Concrete tech.
The Baalbek site’s history reminds me of the vestigial ruin inheritance by the Egyptian Dynastic civilization and probably the same as what the Greeks experienced and incorporated into their mythos.
As the Egyptian scholars told the Ancient Greeks, theirs is but a very young civilization built on the foundations of something much older and more sophisticated.
It is amazing that such a huge piece of granite can be turned in a lathe. Thank you for this video!
How about *melted* and poured? These are worn enough that it's hard to tell, but some of those walls in Peru look every bit like they were poured in place. Though they're clearly not concrete.
So glad u got urself commentary without wind on mic...this is bucket list for me that i know i will never tick off so thank you for taking me Brian....keep up the good work
The small stones under the big stones are for shock absorption during earthquakes , advanced engineering for the time ... this place is much more older than they , like a previous advanced civilization that they denie
Thank you so much Brien! It's a treat for those of us who cannot travel out there. There must be a way to carefully move a stone (or found one already moved) and take samples of trapped organic materials left there at the time of construction - insects, pollen, leaves, etc. In the worst case, a contamination of recent organics would be easily discarded, while the eldest material would tell when they were laid on top of eachother. It would need special permission but it could be done scientifically and it would be soooooo worth it! My bet is that it predates the great flood, and was built by Sumerians. Thanks again. Your channel is like an exotic vacation, and you're an outstanding tourist guide, shedding light on our lost past history.
it's hard to imagine how huge the original structures must have been-those gigantic stones on the ground levels were only the foundations!
My guess is that this building, like so many megalithic works was unfinished; it's hard to imagine that stonework on this scale could ever have been dismantled or destroyed without the evidence being all around. Furthermore, they were still quarrying these enormous blocks.
Amazing how megalithic blocks are just retaining walls foundations stoops or lintel. Almost as if it's the only place they were needed.
This is my favorite coverage so far. Thank you. I hope you have more footage to share with us.
Love hearing and seeing things to do with Baalbek 😎👍♥️🕊️
as always thank you for your impeccable vocalization you get 4 thumbs up from my family
So.... I have 2 give you the credit of being the one and only RUclips channel that not only has the most detailed content on this entire platform... But the vast majority of all the great ancient structures on earth... So what im trying 2 say is you hold the first place trophy for ancient video.. no one comes close 2 you.... no I dont just say this stuff... I've looked at this platform for years trying 2 find you.... Thank you for all your hard work.. in the future theirs a good chance schools will look at your channel for teaching students...
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It´s an incredible site. I would love to see it with my own eyes sometime. Thanks for the presentation!
I live how some stone work looks like puzzle pieces fitting together, without anything binding them besides themselves
The size of these stones are amazing. We are not even able to duplicate this today without developing specialized equipment to handle the task yet many thousands of years ago they could. I can't help but wonder what that time in history and the structures they built must have looked like.
Even for the best mobile crane lifter would be a serious challenge to lift those blocks,
the only mobile vehicle that can lift more than 500 tons is the Liebherr LTM 11200-9.1, its a huge vehicle with more than 18 wheels and it can lift 1200 and i am pretty sure it wont operate with those 1200 maximum weight in any terrain, it will certainly need very flat solid terrain to be cappable of doing it so...
Needless to say, the Romans didnt lift those stones, neither who ever was there after...
This stones are way older than we can date them, they were cut using high precision tools and who ever put them there was likely more advanced than we are today.
Excellent speech. 👽👍
We can do this today if we have fire, rock, rope, timber and a shit ton of labour. If we had either the time or inclination to 👍 A decent knowledge of rope rigging is pretty essential though
@@user-cg9yu4gx2q don't need a crane to move heavy objects.
No sweat labour was involved in any of this work. The gods were real and manipulated the Aether with their minds.
I would have liked to see more close up of those fine reliefs. I have a very hard time believing the Romans did such precision craftsmanship in this stone.
you are wright.. they did not made it
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Romans had a very good stone work all over EU. I think they left some testimony about this place. They had the time and money to do something like this work (small stones).
@@josemorenoporras7506 hahahha...they were adequte for instant sex, or toilet..
When the man turns the corner at 5m42 sec so impressive the wall. It is so amazing! Than you Brien! 💯
WHY is it that no one talks about the MANY stories of the tombs in catacombs beneath Ba'albek? I learned about them almost 60 years ago and yet no one EVER speaks of them?
Why?
The lathing tool must have been a very strong material to hold that weight and shape the pillars.
I belive that we have an ancient forgotten history of knowledge and inventions, and that it pops up in our known history from time to time.
Other than longevity, what would be the point? Concerning the huge base stones.
Those huge blocks are insane wow
the evidence of giant humans is still everywhere in egypt and india. in ancient images and carvings, statues etc.
These structures amaze me, thank you for your work all over this world, I've been able to see so much through your videos!! Awesome stuff !
Amazing, skills lost through time. Our past elders where gifted and had tools we can only dream of in my opinion!
your elders had absolutely nothing to do with that
They were able to turn it into a fort because people did not travel very quickly back then, which gave them plenty of time to build, but it must have been an enormous task at that!
As fast as the wind in a boat.
@ 2:17 min the pink granite cylinder is a cross groove for the drive end of a lathe
the close up views the pink columns has to be spun there's no flat spots anywhere
Thanks for the video Brien
There are similar 1 piece pillars at Tanis and Bastet, also showing `live centre holes` used for lathe turning
Those holes in the centre were usually used for alignment with the pillar above, they would have a wooden peg inserted to keep the alignment.
@@johno9507 i highly doubt that`s what they were originally for, it`s not just this one or two there are examples all over Egypt, Christopher Dunn goes into great detail about why these single piece granite pillars were turned on lathe`s, not only because of the precision of the circumference along the entire length of the pillar, which is to within 50 microns accurate which is the thickness of a human hair approximately, but also tooling marks that can be seen, totally disproves the `these were made with diorite pounding balls and sand as an abrasive by a primitive culture`, the holes aren`t just holes like a tube hole where a wooden or stone peg was placed for alignment, these are cone shaped holes which if you go look at a lathe`s Live Centre is also cone shaped, i dare say they may have used this hole as an alignment tool when placing these pillars on their bases but i can`t see that being their original purpose.
I can even fathom how they did this.. the only thing I can possibly come up with is, with no distractions of modern world issues like taxes, bills, computers, phones, drama ect... this would enable people's minds to work together in greatness to come up with strategies. Synced minds of thousands of intellectual people that aren't distracted have endless amounts of time to wonder and create these unmatched marvels that will never be replicated in our life time. We have become lost as a society and far too separated. We need to link together with no distractions in order to once again unlock the magic that give us the power to create these wonderful monuments.
Kudos to you Brien for speaking out loud the obvious facts about all the megalithic sites having high technology to create manipulate hard stone and who knows the power source that was used, no one has the courage to speak the obvious except you and a few others, Whoever created these megalithic places they probably had the power and technology to to come and go from planet earth as well.
Mr Brien Foertser should have his own shown on the history channel
they will not tell the truth because if they did. no one would play their game of life. people would be getting ready for what's coming again
Great, fantastic tour around one of the most enigmatic places in the world.
As in other ancient sites, we find the harder, to make, arquitechture at the bottom, while others add, less valuable items of their own style on top. Demonstrating that ancient civilizations new how to build, by far, a lot better. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
These are the most amazing ruins on earth imo. Unbelievable, I wish we knew more.
At 2.45 in imagine how much power was needed to spin these huge pieces of marble on lathes as they shaped them and then moved them. Absolutely mind boggling!
Baal: a truly mostorous deity writ in cyclopean stone. How is just as important as why this was created.
A-m-a-z-i-n-g!! I never knew the place is such filled with multi hundred ton blocks. people always only talk about the trilithon stones! so so much thank you mr. Foerster for letting us see all else of it! if this site was rediscovered by humans after few thousand of years, they'd assume it was built around 2000AD, because we are the only civilization even remotely capable of this size of stonework who they can discover from here.
Best ever footage Brian,thank you Tones NZ.
Heck even we don't know who did this and it baffled us as well - Nephilim
Thanks!!
Nice virtual trip
It's amazing that modern academia wants the world to believe that Roman's built these structures when it is clearly obvious that is not the case. All they did is find and repurpose the places, stacking up old blocks to make walls again in a very haphazard way. A good portion of the smaller blocks show the Cyclopean hallmark of the raised rectangle on the front face. This same design is seen all over the world at ancient sites, alongside Polygonal rock work with the stone-softening techniques, like at Macchu Picchu. How someone could look at those truly amazing pink granite columns and believe that Roman's had the powered technology of giant stone lathing is mind boggling. The evidence of their construction stands out like a sore thumb and clearly is a slap in academia's face to their continued denial of letting the world know that our antediluvian cultures (more so the worldwide one that is evident everywhere, not just isolated pockets of people) were just as technologically advanced as we are now, though way more so in many ways due to their abilities of stone working, softening and concrete creation; flying vehicles that could travel into space with easy, as well as rain down atomic destruction when displeased (India's history is very open about that subject); the craftsmanship of making microscopic electronics; and the list goes on and on. Other than Brien, the two "Mystery History" YT channels have also covered the ancient knowledge, designs, technology and architecture of that modern academia strives to hide from the populace. Thanks for sharing another great video, Brien.
You should make videos.
@@Eyes_Open for real lol.
@@Eyes_Open - To then be spread by the followers of this channel as if the fantasies this man conceives is absolute fact.
They did build these structures. A little research would reveal many simple engineering techniques for moving and placing the blocks, e.g., building wheels on the ends and middle then rolling them from the quarry to the site -- you can see come along holes drilled in the sides of the blocks. Something like this has been done in recent history: In the 18th Century Catherine the Great had her subjects move a 1500 ton stone on rails over frozen ground to St. Petersburg where it was used to make a monument.
@@markcorreale8495 Sorry, but moving small blocks is one thing, shifting megaton ones around is altogether a different thing. You can try all the wheels and man-power you have at the time, along with "come along holes", and you are not going to be moving those huge blocks. If you did, it would be at very tiny intervals and only in a straight line. Believe all you want that the bases of these structures were somehow constructed and moved by our more recent ancestors, but their advanced techniques of the time were not so well crafted as to carve and shift megalithic stones on a scale that size. Even a group of giants would be hard pressed to move those, though they are more likely the builders than modern man. The "Thunderstone" started off at 1500 tonnes, but got smaller and lighter during the flat overland trip since the sculptors were shaping it in-route. Now, try doing the same, but keeping the dimensions and weight equal to the foundation site, as well as moving it around to the proper alignment on unlevel ground. You can have thousands of people doing it, but getting one of them in place would be near impossible, let alone multiple stacked ones. Wooden tracks, ropes, frameworks and slings can only do so much. Yes, there have been some people that shifted small obelisk stones into a standing position using conceivable Old World methods, but they still had modern techniques to assist in certain ways and the stones were not that big.
Truly incredible....one day I hope we get answers to this riddle....thank you for this spectacular work...cheers
The 4K UHD used on filming these massive ancient megaliths clearly shows high advanced technology.
great
Thanks Brien.
Great video and thanks for sharing.
I wonder how deep the chuck holes would have been originally? I maybe underestimating the strength of the granite; but I would have thought they'd have to be considerably deep as the weight of the columns would have made them snap in the middle if they were only supported at a thin depth at either end.
Regardless, could the depth of the holes be used to identify the strength/properties of what ever was holding them in the lathe and the lathe itself?
They could have been vertical during turning.
@@dougmcpheters1546 Ah yes didn't think of that as have never seen a vertical lathe
Given the weight and length, yes vertical makes sense. Those holes looked more like positioning holes (dowel pins). It would not have been easy achieving that level of polish at a slow speed. Those tradesmen were absolutely the best this planet has seen!!!!!
vertical lathe perhaps?
Inimaginable! The dimemsions and the conditions în the ancient time. The evident impossibilithy. Thanks for the images.
Dear Brien, thank you a lot! Now I try to imagine to myself this Baalbek place WITHOUT smaller blocks and stones - only thrilitons. Interesting, what it was? What it could be firstly?
Whoever paid for that wall sure got their money's worth.
Herod the great.
Really insane construction...even for today standards. Would be interesting to know if there are salt deposits at that baalbek site..
I strongly encourage everyone here to read.
Remember 1000 years have been added to the timeline(Vatican). Dates were written with a capital letter J or I (number 1 replaced the capital letter adding 1000 years )then year. 1776 is really J or I 776 and this year is, not 2022 but 1022. Ancient Rome was not too long ago.
I'm a weights engineer. Only in the last hundred years have we had cranes capable of lifting those blocks. The Romans, who were amazing engineers, had a general weight limit of 5 tonnes.
1 cubic meter of stone is roughly 2.5 tonnes.
Great video !
I am very surprised the area is not kept up.
Brilliant content !
Thank you !
Amazing. How many of the “giant” megalithic blocks (> 500 tons) exist at Baalbek?
staggering - i must see this one day
Easy to believe in the global histories of Giants, seeing this astonishingly impressive site.
*@**3:14*
Brien-
The opposite end of a lathe that holds the workpiece is called the "Tail Stock*.
Just WOAW !
It must have been easy fro them to work with blocks of that size, otherwise they would much smaller size bricks like we do. Also look at the size of the doorways. It's like they where designed where designed for much larger people.
Forgive my ignorance, but did the Roman's ever make ANY solid granite columns elsewhere? That in itself would seem proof they did not make these. (??)
has there been underground observations? does the foundation go deeper?
in Israel they dug under Solomon's temple (i think it was that place), and they found giant megalithic blocks exactly like these Baalbek ones..
great video, thank you so much
Strikes me looking at how far gone even the later work is, just how old are some of these megalithic sites where the weathering and damage is so much further along? Truly an amazing puzzle.
I can’t imagine anything capable of shifting that load - truly puzzling
You’d need a crane to get it out
I have been to Baalbek myself and its really amazing. But what I don't see is what you and a lot of other similar channels seem to see. I would ask a few questions concerning your theories:
1. What makes you think, that the romans could not build such a structure, but much older civilizations could?
2. What do you think this, as you call it, megalithic structure, would have been good for without the roman temples on top of them? If there was a much older building made by megalithic structures, where should the stones ended up? If the romans could not build it, they could not remove the "much older" ruins either.
3. Isn't it just likely that the different color of the stones is caused by the fact that this part of Baalbek was covered by earth until it was excavated?
4. Isn't it just more likely that the romans just used these huge stones to build strong fundamentals to have their huge temples standing strong?
5. Have you ever been to, for example, Jerusalem? If you go to the western wall tunnels, you can see similar structures under the city with huge stones that are similar great fitting together, but just on the bottom of the structure for fundamentals. And the Temple Mount is Jerusalem was clearly build up at the times of Herod The Great at the end of the first century BC, the same timeframe you have for the Baalbek temples, just that the construction is Jerusalem was mentioned by a lot of historians of this time.
My conclusion is: Only just because we don't know exactly how they did, it is not a good argument to conclude that a much older civilization could have been more advanced and been able to do it. The romans could have build it for sure, as you can see in Jerusalem (even though the Temple Mount was not build by the romans but by the jews) and other places in the ancient Middle East and around the Mediterranean.
It is almost unbelievable that the ancients made these buildings, if you do not see it you would not believe it
Muchas gracias Brien, wow!..
The Roman's kept such great records. Is there no written account of them first happening upon Baalbek?
Thanks for sharing! 👍
Brien, has anyone that you know of, ever excavated down those walls to see what is holding them up?
It is hard to believe they were turned on lathes…most likely vertically cause that weight horizontally would destroy bearings.
Mystery I love it. I don't have the imagination to even begin to understand how they put these in place or even shape them?????
At 10:07, is the angle of that massive corner block at all related to the angles of any of the pyramids at Giza or elsewhere? Maybe a dumb question but it popped into my head as soon as I saw Yousef.
It looks a little steep at 10:49.
On those mega blocks, what are the square holes we see in the block behind the pine trees!
How far was the Quarry where the largest stones came from? How were they moved and stacked?
I think that the GIANTS built these structures, imo.
Also, at 10:52 minutes in, looks like someone was doing a lot of digging, hence the sand on top of the wall, and piled up at the bottom.
Holy crap. I'm a machinist. I want to see that lathe so bad, must have been giant. Giant faceplate at the headstock, giant tailstock...Man that must have been so cool
Disbelief in the mysterious megalith builders creates a modernistic sequence of explanation,ie geopolymers etc
@3:25 the person is tiny relative to the pillars, it seems they are more to the tune of 30-35' tall no?
perfect thanks!
mindblowing
The romans and the crusaders had some great architects, what did they say about the original construction?
Does anyone have any theories on what these gigantic "lathes" looked like? Or theoretical drawings or plans. It's hard to wrap my head around a tool that could shape granite pillars by spinning them.
How was this precision achieved?
@@Eyes_Open yes, hand work is still done to this day.. and it actually proves the point that these were done on lathes.
@@Eyes_Open thank you for your Wikipedia knowledge. but some of us choose to think for ourselves based on reason, and the evidence at hand
Turning the stones keeping them vertical so they don't crack
Vertical lathe is an interesting idea. I was picturing horizontal. Although the Greeks, Romans and many other ancient cultures achieved similar precision to the ancient Egyptions without giant lathes. Although I guess they did have steel tools.
Excellent thank you sir. 👽👍
After all these years I still can't understand how they executed such incredible stonework! Something is missing from the story. Some tool technology, transportation technology, or concrete technology that we still know nothing about. We need to study these sort of stones under an electron microscope.
You would think with all the ruins with the same masonry accuracy and so many years of archaeological study and findings that they would know how this was done. Another what they most likely considered is how surprising it is what humans can do by being persistent. Maybe like with the pyramids there was a spiritual motivation and peer group pressure that have profound impacts on the psyche. I wonder what they will find once they unravel the scrolls of Herculaneum, or open the vast store of literature held at the Vatican for centuries that is deteriorating. Thanks for a great video! I never heard of this place!
We are being lied to on a massive scale
When you make dry fit stone walls,you need a "cap" stone to retain all the small pieces of the wall together. It is not rare to have a big stone on top of the others,that´s why the walls are almost intact and very well preserved I think.
TY!!!
The Pillar lying on it`s side, at it`s base is a `HOLE` right in the centre, i believe this could prove that these large pillars, as you surmised were in fact turned on a LATHE, in order to steady a large piece for turning it would have to be held in a 3 or 4 jaw chuck `possibly a 4 jaw as the rough pillar would have originally been square` one end and at the other you would drill a small centring hole and insert a `LIVE CENTRE` that rotates as the piece is turned i have some understanding of how to turn cylindrical objects on a lathe, as well as the LIVE CENTRE one end, they must have also employed a FIXED STEADY REST somewhere down it`s length to support the centre of the pillar to support the weight and to stop the piece bowing in the centre, the decorative details on the top that radius MUST have been cut with a `Button Insert` one of the channels i follow is an engineering channel called `Cutting Edge Engineering Australia` the guy on there Kurtis is always on lathe`s and mills and he shows how to take square stock and do what`s called `interrupted cuts` on a piece of square stock to eventually turn it into a perfect round piece or even tapered, i`m not sure whether these centring holes in these pillars have been seen and commented on before by you or Christopher Dunn, but i highly recommend you look into them and possibly even contact Chris and get his take on them, with this level of precision shown on these artefacts they MUST have been done on machines, there`s no way one could get this level of precision by hand, no matter how long you worked the material for, cheers mate, ive included a link to the CCE AUS channel where Kurtis makes some long bolts and then uses his end mill to form the 6 flat hex surfaces just to give you an idea. ruclips.net/video/J4Yy6oD1nis/видео.html&ab_channel=CuttingEdgeEngineeringAustralia
As a man studying #AncientArt, I always thought of you very highly, before I realized you couldn't reveal everything but through a slow disclosure, without being banned. Rumble is now on the stock market come over there, I'm sure they'll welcome you, I'm definitely not affiliated though, I love your work!
I just know you have more to say!
As we envision modern (horizontal) lathes, it seems easier to extend the concept of pottery-making to a vertical-mount lathe...turning platform and support frame.
Fantastic! but 'where are the tools' that worked these stones???? Surely there must be something found somewhere - or aren't we allowed to see such things. I wouldn't be suprised that in the dusty basement of an Egyptian museum there's a laser cutter or two!! (only partially joking!).
Why the different colors of the stones according to layers?
We have a 180 ft beam, 44O ft long sevtion of what was probably a six hundred ft wooden shpiwreck on Bailey's beach in New Zealand. It carbon dates 5000BC. But could be much older due to recent c14 adsorption.
Supertanker size. Probably 100 thousand ton displacement. I have moved and launched ships up to 250 ton personally with ropes.
People don't understand that stone and wood are the strongest and most durable technologies there are. The descent to ages of copper, down to iron, and plastic, and finally virtual fleeting microelectronic Fake reality means nothing we are doing now will be decipherable or even possible to recognise as civilization within a thousand years.
Baylys Beach? I can't find anything about this. Can you point me in the right direction? Interested.
@@bob_frazier There's pictures, and an interview with Dargaville Maritime Museum founder and Historian the late Noel Hilliam on skeletons in the cupboard, 1& 2, cousin's across the Sea, by Plumtree productions. Can't remember which one the Ship piece is part of.
But they are all must watch, well made and littered with the covered up real ancient history of NZ.
Noel got the carbon dating done on that ship,
Which is still there under the sand. It was exposed by a storm, and then buried again.
If you turn up with grong penetrating radar, are going to publish the 3D mapping of it, and are prepared to be driven to the spot of the beach blindfolded ( it's 100 km long), there's people that will take you.
But no-one wants it dug up and destroyed. Well some might still. But the Waitangi blood money has been paid, so it's becoming a lot easier to talk about the Ancestors, rather than keep pretending there was no-one here before the Maori invaded in 1350AD.
It's still a little hot. If the Scott's all knew the English had teamed up with the Mongolian invasion to sack and claim their Ancestral homeland, would they stay in GB, with their North Sea oil and gas?
Noel also had the Gene tests done on the 4000 BC skeletons in stone coffins in the stone city. That proved they were the same Genetically as the people in Wales at that time. Evidence backing up the Welsh legend of the ancestral homeland, an Island directly under the earth.
Noel was a good friend of my late grandfather Dudley Lloyd, who grew up at Baileys beach, was Editor of the Dargaville Times, and President of the Returned Serviceman's Association for 25 years.
He did Newspaper pieces on this and many other such things around there. But the paper got taken over and now the web is being sterilised.
There will be microfiche records.
@@aaronfranklin324 Thanks Aaron! I'll be checking that out. Read a book once that talked about the possibility that there were huge ocean going ships out of China, could be one if them. Nice of you to respond. Cheers.
@@bob_frazier out of China/Into China who can really say? The Mummies from China around that time are those blue eyed blonde ones wrapped in Tartan cloth, Trussed in a fetal position like in Peru.
The timber in that ship was possibly Chinese Teak. On the other hand it's very difficult to tell the difference between Teak and New Zealand Puririri, and with all the oral histories here from the early Tribes and in Australia and Vanuatu of how their ancestors walked between these locations, I find it very interesting, that Colonel James Churchwards Mu the Ancient Motherland of Humanity, shows a very accurate outline of Zealandia just slightly north and rotated, to fit his theory that it was submerged with mountains where Fiji Tonga etc are now. He spent 25years getting histories from Asia Polynesia, Australia, South American, including ancient maps. It may be that the "Tail of the Dragon" on these ancient maps is the land ridge of the Lord Howe rise that is a broad extension of the South Island, to West Cape North Island 400m average depth now. But with half that in Glacial times, and a icecap extending to Antarctica to our south. It would almost certainly have been Seesawed out of the water, and Extend to Asia.
When the Waitaha left Wharrkaurinui (the great Green turtle, Nth America), and Waitangi Ki Roto ( singing of the waters within, South America) to RETURN to , Waitangi Ki Raro ( Singing of the Waters far away to the south, New Zealand) it was by very well mapped sea routes from ancient times when they left some twenty five thousand years ago. When the Oruanui Taupo Eruption triggered by deglaciation, obliterated most of the country, and it probably sank then.
They do speak of the Ancient ones they learnt their knowledge from.
I strongly Recommend Whispers of Waitaha, nice big Hardcover, NZ$50, $US25. You don't often find a contiguous oral history covering over 20000 years in 25 different countries. Not that it's All In That book. 🙄How could it be! 🤭 But it's friggen mind blowing what is.
If the Romans erected the megalithic columns what makes you think they didn't also place the megalithic blocks in the foundation? The columns would have been more difficult to construct than the blocks.
Wow, amazing turned columns. Where and when will we find lathes and tooling used to make these pieces??? Thanks for the tour Brien!
How does brien explain all the partially finished work? The ones in the quarry that clearly show being done by hand tools.
All the tools were destroyed in a catastrophic period of history.
They will never be found.
@@johnbirch4089 - How convenient that is for your woowoo fantasies.
amazing topic ,raising thousands of questions ...like why this ancient evolved civilization with ....im sure numerous proof that we dont even know ab it,why was so carefuly hidden from humanity by "rulers " ? was like cutting off our roots
Ben Foster is amazing
I would suggest the lathe was a vertical not a horizontal setup. Stone is very strong in compression but very weak in tension A horizontal setup would have the entire piece unsupported and it would snap in the middle under the stress of gravity. Engineering 101.
Lathe probably rope belt driven as is a Roman granary mill is powered by donkeys turning a capstan.