All The Reasons 'The Marvels' Will Fail | Part 2: The Politics
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2023
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The Marvels will almost certainly lose money. Lsat time we looked at the characters and overall mcu plot that isn't going to draw an audience. Today we're looking at the political history of the actors and director to predict just how much messaging they'll shove in and how it's going to push the audience away. Развлечения
Cats run the internet. That save the cat joke was "borrowed" straight from the comment section.
What are your thoughts? Do you think DaCosta's experience matters? Will the movie be political?
Not borrowed. Was a gift. 😊
I've a question that isn't political but moral - that fight scene in the trailer - that's a 16-year old Ms. Marvel involving herself in a fight amongst three adults, one of whom would presumably kill her. That seems off particularly for a Disney film - teaching kids to fight and use violence? Shouldn't CM and Rambeau have told her to get out of there?
@Guy Gadbois No, because you are a woman of color. You are so much stronger and more powerful than any man. Check that one scene from Endgame for an example.
Brie Larsen thinking shes the face of POC is delusion at best and racist at the worst.
Brie Larsen interjecting herself into race is racist
@@TheElectronNinja I need to schedule a hospital bed for 3rd-degree cringe if I watch the scene again.
Marvel's biggest problem with releasing mediocre movie after movie is that it's driving people to apathy.
It's anecdotal, but I know a good number of regular people, mostly with families, who used to see every Marvel movie the day it came out, but no longer do, if they even see it at all. They're not haters, they don't think deeply about the politics or 'cinema' - they just go to the movies to have fun. But they aren't really enjoying Marvel movies the last couple phases, and most have started just ignoring new Marvel releases altogether.
Meanwhile they're talking about how great John Wick, D&D, and Mario was. That's a terrible place for Marvel to be, and no amount of politics or rage baiting will help them.
I completely agree. I genuinely don't think anyone is hating marvel at this point. It's worse. They just don't care anymore.
Passion can be turned around, but apathy is impossible
You nailed it! This is exactly how I feel!
It's primarily Phase 4 that has been the worst. As of Phase 4 they have been pushing this "Female Empowerment girl power" shit sooo hard and for so long, it's pissing a lot of the audience off. It's alright if female characters get introduced, that is fine, but to replace the whole original team with female characters when your audience is primarily male, just won't sit well. Especially when the females who are being introduced, and smarter, stronger and just better than EVERY OTHER male character. They're just nerfing all the male characters and buffing all the female characters just to make woman look more superior. Take She-Hulk for example, when they're training, Hulk throws a rock, then She-Hulk does the same thing but gets it that little bit further just to piss him off. Then when they are holding their body weight on the ground, look how Bruce is struggling so bad and She-Hulk is literally dancing with one hand. Not to mention how that show portrays men outside the main cast is bullshit.
Take MoM as another example. Look how nerfed Dr Strange was and look how insanely buffed Wanda was. They literally nerfed Dr Strange, in his own movie, to make Scarlet Witch shine in the limelight and make her look flawless in terms of power scaling. And they make Dr Strange incapable of literally doing anything whatsoever up until the final parts of the movie.
EVERYONE hates Captain Marvel. She is so arrogant, unrelatable and one dimensional. But instead of Kevin Feige or Brie Larson listening to the constructive critisicm of the character, what do they do? Talk about how "Misogynistic fanboys are in their feelings" and all that bullshit. It's extremely ignorant. This in my opinion is what's causing MCU's downfall right now.
@Adam Robertson What you have to understand though is that everything you just said is true and Disney has no plans on changing course. You do understand this don't you. They have already come out and said so. They are willing to take the financial hit now, with the hopes of financial gain in the future. When they say you are not the target audience and that these movies are not made for you, they are dead serious. I'm on your side, I agree with you but Disney doesn't! Disney is going to push their WOKE agenda come Hell or high water. Their leadership is onboard with this, their employees are onboard with this and their board members are onboard with this! It's going to happen!
@@gregowen2022 White men in the West have low sperm count for a reason. That's just what I am going to say
"the wrong product for the wrong public". You summed up the MCU suicidal strategy perfectly ! And they just can't stop...
They've dug in too deep now. Nothing short of a full reset can change their trajectory
Its all about maintqining that esg score
Almost feels bad for the person playing Ms. Marvel and how she is caught in the middle of all of this.
That's why I don't crap on her. She and her character seem nice. Hopefully she has a career when this all ends
@@gregowen2022 I did watch miss marvel him to give her credit. She really does seem to understand her character. Plus, she actually has demonstrated good knowledge of marvel comics. I do hope she’s able to move on to better projects when this is over.
She is probably an activist herself.. I dont really care.
@@moon1night7 she has been nice in interviews and one of the only actual Marvel Comics fan to have been cast in the MCU
@moon1night7 look at her at 5:35.
Unlike the other two actresses, she looks bored.
I bet the director was talking about how she was saving lives and such, since is the only thing those people can talk about.
Liberal guy here. You hit the nail on the head. Even if I agree with the messaging, I don't want to see it in my fictional fantasy worlds. I don't want to be reminded of modern day problems when I just want to turn my brain off for a couple hours and be entertained. Especially if I'm paying for it. I bet this movie doesn't make it past the $200 million point. Great video!
Thank you so much!
It's the same way on the conservative side. I've spoken before about Kirk Cameron movies. I totally agree with his message, yet I'm not interested in his movies. I want entertainment when I want entertainment
I'm sick of diversity and inclusion at the expense of storytelling. As much as I despise Larson, this whole plot was created so they could replace the white chick with so called minorities.
I'm sick of diversity and inclusion at the expense of storytelling. As much as I despise Larson, this whole plot was created so they could replace the white chick with so called minorities
It’s their intellectual property… they can literally do what ever they want with their company
@@waverider6133 and? Last time I checked no one is saying Disney is legally unable to make preachy divisive crap.
They can do it... and reap the rewards.
But we don't have to be like it and we aren't compelled to be silent about it.
It’s a Disney princess problem. Rather than letting Marvel and lucasfilm keep their own culture, the Disney culture imposed itself on the acquired properties and ruined them.
If The Marvels fully embraces the comedy aspects of WandaVision and Ms. Marvel...The Marvels would still be a box office flop, but it could actually be a much better movie than any of us expect if The Marvels' style of humour is smart and clever enough to go all the way in parodying what people dislike about the MCU and the M-She-U today. If a movie focusing on one comedic strong female lead is not good enough for Marvel and Disney, especially when it does not take itself as seriously as it should, then maybe a movie focusing on three comedic strong female leads who play well off of each other and are much better to watch together than they were apart, when that movie does not have to be serious at all and stay true to the spirit of Ms. Marvel, that movie will be good enough for Marvel and Disney to rise out of their doldrums. It is an ambitious idea that might just be silly enough to work, so if Nia DaCosta and her three co-writers have enough creative knowledge to write The Marvels differently from how she wrote Little Woods, then Carol, Monica and Kamala could have surprisingly great character chemistry for what little we know of them from Captain Marvel, WandaVision and Ms. Marvel. They might just surprise us all by being a diverse female trio of super heroines who needed each other to be entertaining, fun people to watch. April 17, 2023, 2:14am
I don't think so given that the Disney live-action remakes have gotten so mediocre/terrible that they've started flopping.
@@theinvisibleskulk4563 Well, good! They deserve to flop harder after all of the bad publicity that the live-action Mulan got from multiple angles. I hope that was just the beginning of the end for them. April 17, 2023, 4:33pm
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Gotten? The Disney live-action remakes have always been trash.
My favorite part of the preview was when Captain Marvel declared she was no HERo but now a They/Them-o, while advancing veganism during a fight with the patriarchy, and they team up by kneeling and all yelling "BLM" to powerup (very "Shazam!"-like!!).
This movie is stunning and brave and undoubtedly will make 2 billion in its opening weekend
Hahaha, only if large blocks of seats are purchased again...
I cringed so hard the first time I heard that "it wasn't made for you" quote from Brie Larson.
I AM the target demographic; loved the book as a kid and was really looking forward to seeing it properly adapted with modern technology.
But guess what? It was a terrible adaptation and a terrible movie in its own right.
Also it's not like everyone outside your target demographic are all incapable of liking your product.
On your point about why men and women don’t like these Marvel movies, I think a good analogy is, imagine MGTOW had a stranglehold on people in the highest levels of Hollywood, and true-believing producers made a gender-swapped version of Cinderella. Same story, but Cinderella is a dude with an evil stepfather and stepbrothers and has a fairy godfather help him get to the ball where the princess falls in love with him.
Would anyone actually watch this? Of course not. It wouldn’t resonate with women the way the actual Cinderella story does, and the Cinderella story simply does not resonate with most men on an emotional level the way it does with women. It would just be just like the WNBA - something people obsessed with politics want to exist, but none want to actually watch.
Exactly, and it also wouldn't resonate with a good amount of men who aren't into the mgtow thing. That's a solid analogy
@@gregowen2022
Precisely. It wouldn’t even be liked by most men who are actually into the whole MGTOW thing because the Cinderella story does not resonate with men the way it does with women, just as you have noted the typical superhero story doesn’t resonate with women the way it does with men. The only people who would go to see this gender-swapped Cinderella are ultra-MGTOW types who would feel morally obligated to see it once and praise it on the internet. This dynamic is exactly why Birds of Prey flopped, and why the Marvels will flop as well.
@@bluelaser1012 I don't think you undestand the motivation behind MGTOW if you think they'd have anything to do with a storyline like Cinderella. In that story, romantic love and a rich love interest saves the girl. In other words, external agency. MGTOW is about two things - Individual agency, and not requiring a romantic partner to feel whole.
Great video. I never understood why Marvel deviated from what brought them massive success. No one would mind diversity if the movies were great. People love Nick Fury, Black Widow, Wanda etc. because they are well written and developed characters. So disappointed in what Marvel has become.
I agree. They started to think that superficial qualities are the most important thing. Race and gender are real, but they're like 1% of a person. We want to see characters, real people
“Would mind”
I think forced diversity is one of the problems.
To be fair, the Marvel movies are filled with one dimensional characters that hit certain heroic high points that resonate with people. I.e. Nick Fury is not really a well fleshed out character, he's just on screen to hit that "oh damn! It's Samuel L. Jackson playing Nick Fury with that Sam Jackson flair, I love it.." and the movies are content to basically leave it to that and certain.."he scowls and runs Shield like a bad ass" character traits. Black Widow is much the same, though I admit to having not seen the Black Widow movie. The well developed characters that have some sort of real arc are basically Tony Stark, Wanda and The Hulk, with an honorable mention to the Vision, since that's an easy mark to hit with the whole robot wanting to know what it's like to live trope. But by and large, there aren't any real surprises, the characters are about who they are at the beginning as the start, often just with "now I'm captain america" abilities. Aside from Guardians of the Galaxy, especially the second, which tells a supremely compelling story about found familes, sacrifices, where the characters are going through some real human stuff..Marvel movies are ALL about summer blockbuster explosions and superficial things that we all love to consume..and to think that it is somehow different now is not correct, in my opinion. The bottom line is a lot of us don't like the politics, and don't like that the superficial marvel films have been injected with superficial political messages that should be taken more seriously than the writers seem to take them. My two cents, anyhow.
The problem isn't the writers and directors. The problem is who is in charge of hiring them.
Greg, your content rocks. Really glad to see your channel seems to be growing fast, it’s much deserved.
Thank you so much! The momentum is picking up and I am so excited
some I how found the channel a week ago I’ve managed to catch up on past videos, Other channels are excited when a movie or projects fails it’s like we are the viewer/customer loses as well
@@gregowen2022 I can tell you've never seen the directors movies and are determined to judge by skin color and not the content of her character. MlK Jr was right. He integrated black people into a burning building.
Just discovered your channel and that was, so far, the most sober, clear, as unbiased as possible assessment of the REALITY of what movie goers want. Not what the filmmakers wish they want, but what they actually want. I also appreciated you pointing out that movies that tackle difficult issues are also necessary and often well done, however they are made for the budget and reality of the box office they will get. Like ANY other genre. Thank you.
This mans comedy timing and vids deserve more recognition. ❤
was watching part 1 before, and the homework topic stood out to me along with the whole "it's not made for you" line that we've been hearing a lot recently.
My understanding behind Ms Marvel is that generally it was peek "it's not made for you" media, which people just skipped given the whole teen drama (see: Resident evil) thing doesn't exactly cater to to the main audience of marvel properties, even for people who did shove it on their to-watch list, it was also released around the time I recall some people being bummed out by marvel, along a sea of many other dozen properties which took off or where posting a new season, searching around, I see references to shows like the boys, stranger things, etc
Far behind on the MCU, I only got a TV for the first time in a decade last year, and was going to watch the movies from the top as I hardly recall watching the first iron man, but, seeing the modern state, struggling through a few eps of She-Hulk, it's just moved to the bottom of the "to-watch" list, especially vs the years of anime I need to catch up with.
I think the apathy you describe is what will kill the mcu. No one is boycotting it, they just don't care. That should scare them more than protests
@@gregowen2022 As the wisdom goes: The opposite of love is not hate. It's apathy.
How about that Kamala Khan "acting"
"OH my God"
"Oh my God"
"Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God"
"OH MY GOOOOOOOOD!!!"
acting
Hahaha. I genuinely think she'll be the highlight of the film, though that isn't much of a compliment.
If they play her right, she can do well, similar to Peter Parker. "If they play it right" is a big if with modern marvel
@@gregowen2022 Yes it is indeed. I can see Ms Marvel trying to be hyped up like Peter Parker, however I feel like it won't stick even close to where Peter did for fans. There's a reason why we have all these Peter Parker Spiderman movies and see him everywhere compared to Miles Morales. Miles only had the one ok Spiderman movie and a decent reskined video game. I can't believe that Disney executives are surprised that they are losing so much money when regular people like us can spot the issues in an instant, yet they choose to live in an illusion.
My prediction: if the Marvels fails Marvel will go into defcon 1. Feige will be in serious danger of losing his job if he isn’t fired outright and a lot of projects are either going to be scrapped or built from the ground up. Then if that fails… It’s reboot time… They’ll cast a new Iron Man and try to make us forget that Kang almost ended the Matriarchy with domestic violence.
The next step to save the MCU will be bringing the X-men and Fantastic Four in. That's literally their last chance to not woke it, if they do they are doomed
@@josesarango3408 They think that promoting the woke message is worth losing sales. So no, until Disney goes bankrupt and financially collapses, nothing is going to change in THE MESSAGE.
Nah, they will think that female superheroes just don't sell. While in reality what doesn't sell is gender swapping existing heroes and not giving any compelling backstory to heroines, besides "she is an oppressed female who is better than any male around her and she is perfect from the start".
You are fast becoming my first choice of clicks when I sit down with my cup of tea :) Its lovely to see intelligent, witty and honest reviews/assessments of movies and cultural issues that come from a place of sanity, knowledge and an acknowledgement of reality.
Excellent analysis as always. Oh, and 42! And another oh... Having cats and kittens gives this movie an extra star for me. Granted, this may still only pull it up to 1 1/2 or 2, but...
Thank you! Yeah, they got me with the cats. I'm still not interested, but I'm not NOT interested...
Also,minor thing: I feel bad that Goose was dragged back into this. I really do
I loved goose. She save the movie
Your channel is great, Greg! I hope it keeps growing for you.
I really appreciate that! Thank you
Your insights are the thoughts I couldn't articulate. You're point on
Just found you a bit ago and glad I did! Loving the videos and agree with you on everything, especially with this one! 👏
I really appreciate it! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos
I don't know why they hired the Director lady as it almost looks like they're setting her up to fail. It's like getting a junior paralegal in litigation to head up the firm's biggest mergers and acquisitions project. The paralegal may be very bright and hardworking, but has no relevant experience with that type of law and is going to be in charge of a major project which will have negative repercussions for the whole firm if it doesn't go well. In addition, she'll be in charge of people who have a lot more experience than she has. This doesn't work very well for morale in any kind of job.
I fear they have done the Director no favors. It could even hamper her future. Didn't they do something similar with the Director of "the Eternals?"
Thanks for the video. I like your cat!
Nice nod to the Hitchers guide to the Galaxy. Also, great insight into what is destroying Marvel.
Thank you so much!
Everything is getting remade these days. My fingers are crossed for another try at am Hitchhiker's movie
@@gregowen2022 Did you not like the last one? I did. I also took a troop of boy scouts to the theatre who had never been exposed to Douglas Adams and they howled.
Alan Rickman was SO PERFECT as Marvin. So PERFECT! Sorry, I had a minor nerdgasm there.
Loving your channel and editing.
Thank you so much!
I do miss the good old days when superheroes fought for truth, justice, and the American way
Weirdo
Your channel and insights are excellent , bring on 100,000 subscribers.
Love from Scotland :)
That is one pudgy/floofy lookin cat you have there sir. Best part of the video.
I agree with your points throughout, I just gave up on the MCU years ago. Numb to the whole ordeal. It could break world records and I wouldn't bat an eye. Doubtful that'll happen though.
Love your content man. Keep em coming.
Thank you so much!
He's so lazy, but he's the definition of a lap cat. Has to be in contact with someone at all times.
I think many people are feeling like you and that's what's going to kill the mcu. No one is revolting against them, they are just getting bored and moving on. It's worse than hating their stuff, it's indifference, and I feel it as well
Your content is fantastic. Love these videos. Thank you for making.
I agree with you. To the point, I believe a few of the virtual signaling people hired her, but the higher up saw her as she's cheaper to hire than a name brand good director and have her piggy back with them to learn the ropes. Therefore allowing her to learn and then from there they can use in the future and she's able to direct movies with a better means of tools since she learned from the best.
I am on board with a lot of what you say regarding the preachy nature or Marvel right now. But I want to point out that Ms. Marvel was a surprisingly delightful series. I feel may people didn’t give it a fair shake. It has some cringy nonsense at points but it was overall well written and impactful where it needed to be. I do hope Iman Vellani doesn’t get tarnished by the state of the MCU.
Bro, I love your takes in stuff!❤❤❤
Imagine thinking social issues can eclipse the threat of a multiversal collapse in the superhero genre of all things
The Mantel Video and this "Marvels will Fail" Series, on point my friend. So well spoken and directed. Truly well done. Especially the part where you often say companies don't care. I agree, they don't care, they just want to sell
Thank you so much! I hope people take it to heart. We have to demand a better product from these companies
You have quickly become my favorite youtuber. I often get exhausted when some of the channels I follow pump out content daily.
With you, I wish you’d pump out content hourly. (Admittedly, I’m in a honeymoon phase with your channel, and if you _actually_ did post hourly - we’d ironically have a Marvel situation at our hands. Oversaturation of content.)
Anywho. I’ve been let down by Marvel so badly the past two years that I kinda just wish that The Marvels will suck and the whole MCU burn to the ground. I have zero good will left. (I became a Marvel maniac after the first Iron Man. I own Marvel-everything and even when people began to heavily criticize the franchise after Endgame, I childishly defended Marvel. But. They were right, I was wrong.)
What concerns me is that if The Marvels manages to make a profit. The trailer looks inoffensive and I think that the reshoots (along with demoting Larson) and reschedules ARE because Marvel actually has taken the hint from the audience and toned down the homilies.
The political messages will be more subtle and director held in a tight leash.
And when the movie is inoffensive enough to gross passably, we’ll be hearing:
“YA’LL HATERS SEE!? FEMALE LED PROJECTS CAN BE PROFITABLE AND BLACK LIVES ÜBER ALLES!”
I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
The dream is to one day quit my job and make so much content that you hate me, haha.
I hadn't considered your scenario, but it's plausible. If they can make the whole thing a CW show that no one loves but they don't hate either, it will justify all their worst impulses. That's a nightmare
I've heard that marvel usually brings in a ringer to direct the action.
It wouldn't surprise me. They likely have a ton of uncredited folks doing the lifting on these things, but I think that's why they are feeling so bland
It’s all green screen and CGI so who even needs a director.
They have so many low-experience directors coming in they'd better have some kind of support squad that makes things happen.
I swear, Marvel thinks to itself, "This director did a movie with women (or black people/Indian people/etc.) She's perfect!"
"We'll just get so-and-so to direct the pre-written action scenes and WOMAN can handle every scene with WOMAN."
Marvel seems to very much into optics these days with everything else taking a backseat
@@gregowen2022 Thanks for the response! For what it's worth, I was raised "a blue dot in a red state" (I'm NOT an SJW!) I'm enjoying your channel, and no we do not like to be pandered to, either.
..and please, no one in chat come at me for being a liberal. I think we're all on the same page here, at least for the subject of bad cinema.
@@guyvizard549 nah, no one is coming at you, there are plenty of liberals in the chat. That's my sweet spot, haha. I'm the good cop conservative, lol
Ms Marvel is Pakistani but yeah. I remember people are calling people who disliked the trailer sexists and racists
Plus they still don't give the CGI artists and producers of the CGI anytime to make it look really good there was a scene with a space suit that looked very odd
Greg, I would suggest that you try to track down "The Phantom Raspberry Blower of Old London Town" by The Two Ronnies (UK). That's what I think this movie will be.
The missus has suggested that it's likely to be something more similar to that which you would like to dump on your hated boss's desk when you leave that company.
I love the Two Ronnies, I second that recommendation :)
Manly, worn out writers make good stories. None left in the marvel writers room.
Great points! 👌 New subscriber. 🙌
The Pruitt-Igoe Wikipedia was an interesting read. Thanks for the recommendation
Oh, heck yes - Pruitt-Igoe is quite the story. I hope it is still covered in architecture schools as a cautionary tale.
Initially, it was a success -- but they relied on an initial outlay of cash from the Federal govt to build the housing units, with no more promised or available for the upkeep.
Once thing started to get run down, the rent money alone was not enough to things maintained - and as more ppl moved out due to improper maintenance, the situation became worse and worse. Only twenty years after being built, they were demolished.
The architect gets a lot of the blame, but what was built was not what he recommended. The local government deserves the majority of the blame for what happened.
I've always preferred Captain Marvel when she was still Ms. Marvel, in a comma, and as a second voice in Rogue's head.
Love that your "Revenge of the Nerds" references are not only from the first movie.
Sorry to disagree. I cared little about Captain America reading the comics all those years ago. MCU came out and I was 1000% Tony Stark. Chris Evans acting, helped immensely by excellent writing and the chemistry, made me raise Cap to Iron Man status. Chris Hemsworth nailed it as well...well early on before MCU ruined him after Ragnarok. Are they actors with wide range of abilities? No, but the casting of them took what they were good at and their range fit the characters perfectly.
That last sentence . . . "be or bang" was awesome. Thumbs up!
I've just discovered your channel thanks to the Algorithm God of RUclips, but I've been absolutely loving all the content I've been making my way through. You're so good at breaking things down in ways that are comprehensive, but I don't feel like you every cross the line into just shitting on things like a lot of other RUclipsrs do.
Keep up the great work!
I really appreciate that!
That's the goal, there's no need for me to be angry about stuff. Besides, being funny is more fun. I'm glad you're enjoying everything!
I doubt the movie will be political after that many reshots. It will be a safe movie ,somewhat disjointed but I look forward to the pitch meeting.
Btw. I would love some more general topics related to film from you, like the impact from Corona on movies in the past years, general trends in style in the last years and prognosis on the future or whatever you want :)
Me too! Look, talking about marvel is funny, but it can't be everything. Actually I'm going to film a video today starting a new series called "good trope bad trope" where I'll take a common trope (enemies to lovers today) and discuss good and bad execution
@@gregowen2022 looking forward to it ! I loved the trope talks by overlzmy sarcastic production it's such an interesting topic.
@@gregowen2022 definitely is gonna be Political just listen to the Music in the trailer
@@UnknownEX0 what was political about the music?
@@Sonmmmxuan “ don’t tell me to smile“ cause they’re mad when guys tell them to smile
I think another reason why it's going to fail is that ever since Endgame all of the movies feel so self-contained and easy to skip. Like before each movie felt like it was legitimately important and contributed to the universe. For example, Captain America 2 got rid of SHIELD which made the universe feel uneasy about the Avengers and led kind of to Civil War. Ragnarok made the Asguardians as a whole more vulnerable with Asguard and Odin gone which ment Thanos would be just that much more of a threat. But with Phase 4 onward you miss almost nothing skipping Shang Chi, Eternals, Dr. Strange 2, and even Ant-Man 3 since they all make it out ok in the end. And that's ignoring the shows cause most casual fans aren't really bothering with them considering how mid they all are.
It's ironic that you said these movies are basically gonna be written by committee because the first 2 phases were said to have quite a few problems in oart due to being run by a "creative committee" that included old-school people like Ike Perlmutter. Literally switching out one committee for another
Keep going man.... Your really really good
Thank you!
At this point, everything since endgame has felt like bad television with a huge budget. Putting amateurs with hugely inflamed egos and unearned chips on their shoulders, at the helm of multimillion dollar ships is insanity.
I totally agree Gre, the raw male attraction of the Avengers dudes together on screen was a big part of civil war
Great video :) Totally underrated channel :)
Thank you very much!
I love this take. The black and white clipping that you do is hilarious and I particularly enjoy the movies you reference it’s always fun to see if I recognize them and if I don’t then it’s just something else to look into watching.
But yeah, this looks like a bomb. And you know, I can’t help but feel sorry for all in involved. I can’t help but wonder if Nia Decosta had been able to work a number of years in the industry before being handed a project like this this then maybe she could’ve had a better handle on things and there wouldn’t have been all those reshoots, assuming it’s not a committee made monstrosity. But as it is, she may never get another project like this. Vellani might fade away like a lot of child stars and never get another break out role. Hell, I even feel sympathy for Brie Larson. Her main film was subpar and she’s had bad track records with interviews and audience connection but she can’t be blamed for the poorly written character of Captain Marvel, that’s all Marvel. I think Teyonah Parris is the only one that can walk away from this without a limp but that doesn’t mean she’s got stellar prospects after this either.
Oh well, I hope we can be pleasantly surprised and this film is excellent, but I’m doubting that even more now
I actually think Vellani might be the only one who possibly gets anything from this, judging strictly off the trailer. While the trailer was.. whatever that was.. she immediately jumped out because she had an energy and hopefully talent that quite frankly neither Brie or Teyonah showed in just those couple of minutes. I personally think that she might be the saving grace just because people are going to like the fact that she actually seems to enjoy the role and be passionate about it unlike Brie and Teyonah that just don’t seem to. Just my own perspective, and I could 100% end up being completely wrong.
The Marvels is a lame 'Fury's Angels'... superhero fatigue is real, and the mergers-and-acquisitions of Disney and what they've done with them since buying them is disgraceful. They're turning Star Wars and the MCU which were both brands for boys and turning them all into female led properties. They bought Pixar for its technology and John Lassiter and they reduced a prestigious animation studio to making lame television cartoons and bad animated movies and ousted John Lassiter because he didn't fit into their corporate culture and had to be gotten rid of with excessive charges of hugging. Disney is pushing a message through their movies and streaming series and the public is slowly moving away from them because they no longer want to be preached to, they just want to be entertained and Disney has lost its way.
I'm sick of diversity and inclusion at the expense of storytelling. As much as I despise Larson, this whole plot was created so they could replace the white chick with so called .
Thank you sir!! Keep making great content!!!
Thank you very much!
I disagree about the end of the video with black widow & captain america. It wasn't just that they're good looking but they're also great characters with depth, have personality, stand for something (cap). are honest yet vulnerable (widow) etc. which is why they're my two favorite mcu characters & why I think their dynamic worked so well in winter soldier.
Greg got new sub great work
You're awesome Greg. 🤘😎
That ending statement really drove the point home.
It's the most basic math :
What percentage of Superhero film viewers are male and don't identify at all with any of these women ?
What percentage want to watch a film with three D list heroes ?
Kamala Khans personality makes this seem like a film for very young girls who like Frozen.
I keep hearing that this or that movie is "not made for you." I oblige the actor / director / producer / activist and don't go. And then they call us names for not going. If you want us to go to your movie, then make it FOR us, otherwise show it in a coffee house and SHUT UP!
That Candyman remake was the most anti-white racist film I have ever seen.
I haven't seen it because I'm a wuss with horror movies, but half the reviews I read echoed your thoughts.
Man your predictions were so on point.
I got some stuff wrong last year, but this one feels good!
This is a fantastic video, good sir.
I really appreciate that!
I simply can't understand this absurd trend of appealing to people's guilt to force them to watch this crappy products.
When movies are good people go voluntarily!
I miss that website too.
Ngl, 9:35 is what made me subscribe. Great content
Every time I hear the name Pruitt-Igoe a Philip Glass composition starts to play in my head for some reason.
The problem with modern Marvel writers, or writers in general, is they don't understand the difference between a 'Character who is X', and and X Character.'
Until they work that out, they'll keep failing.
I’m not watching. No one can convince me to watch. My decision comes from footage of a fight scene. Rambo is shooting a blue shooty beam at who I assume is generic female villain and Rambo dead az stops, stops shooting shooty beam, so that generic villain can turn around to confront Ms Marvel who appears behind her. Thing is villain lady turns a split second before Ms Marvel drops in. It’s in the center of the shot. I can’t unsee it and that’s in their trailer! I just demand a higher standard for what is in the theater I’m not going to get it so I’m done with you know the premium price. Maybe I will catch it later if the reviews say it’s not insufferable.
As far as I’m concerned there hasn’t been any marvel movies released since end game…
I never got around to watching the new trailer, but I can guess what it is going to be like. It makes me wonder which of the crazies that make these multi-million dollar decisions decide to get such inexperienced people in when there are much better people out there that can do a better job. Oh well...
I don't need feminist or gay activist telling me what doesn't work for them about my beloved superheros. They weren't made for them (Larson Voice)
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you ain't lying... teyonnah paris is very attractive, but it's definitely not enough for me to buy a ticket and sit down through this mess
7:51 This isn’t rumor the movie was called Captain Marvel 2 when it was announced.
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The movie should’ve been called Captain Marvel 2 tbh. Doesn’t matter they’ve added 2 extra Marvels. People barely care about Brie, but it’s still her Captain Marvel that gives this movie any star power or justification for even being made. 😊
I think it’s interesting this new director made two opposites of movies as in little woods and candyman.. which hopefully means she’s at least able to make a superhero movie 🤞🏼 but the thing they both had in common… was current events in America… which no one wants to see in a lighthearted marvel movie 😔😔
A Wrinkle in Time was AAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Yep, I wanna go see a little (no doubt she is an adult IRL) girl squee and fangirl in CW quality costume. This character was never even given a chance to succeed, and in his movie she is set up to be the sidekick at best. Along side the most hated "character" in the MCU and another one is so uninteresting she, nor we, can even describe or define her powers. This movie has no chance.
What do you think about the script? So far it's just average. But the average is good if it's entertaining. Although, I am worried about watching Goose's army of kids eating everyone.
Normally I would agree that average is good if entertaining. The Mario movie shows that to be true. Marvel's trouble is that people have come to expect better than average so average feels bad. Also, they are spending enormous amounts of money on each project, so average isn't profitable.
I think this script isn't going to attract a huge audience. It looks like it has fun spots, but feels like the kind of movie you will wait to rent
Meta and unfortunate history aside, 13 year old girls will go to watch this particular film as it is made for them, and seems to have been made to actually entertain. It will do fine.
I’m holding out hope for Vol. 3, but I may see this movie when it drops. Curiosity, if anything. I didn’t think BOP was that bad, and I liked Huntress. Unless the next trailers get all preachy, then we’ll see.
Doesn't help that Dune 2, The Hunger Games and Trolls are coming out in the same month.
My favorite theory on that is that they know fully well it's not going to do well. November puts the loss in the next fiscal year, and they can blame those other movies for some of the loss
@@gregowen2022 🤣 I am sure the investors will have a field day when they meet next year with probably two Disney movies even making a profit this year.
"(B)e or bang", that's either going to be my next drinking game or the title of my autobiography. lol
If you think about it, this movie is all kitty, and they're here to save us all.
Honestly, I have nothing against this trailer or film because, as you say, its not made for me - I'm not an 8-13 year old girl.
This also means that I won't go and see it, and for Disney to make money on it they'll need every 8-13 year old girl on planet Earth to see it, twice.
I wonder how likely that will be ? Gonna be tough to market in China, given the Chinese audience's preference for not seeing certain ethnic groups, and those ethnic groups making up 2/3 of the leads.
I think the real value of this film for me will be of the "point and laugh" variety.😅
Bro I love your edits.. lol this video rings true. Didn't even know they hired and inexperienced director 😢. MCU is toast
Thank you!
Yeah, something I didn't even put together before the script is that candyman wasn't even done when she got the job. Little Woods was her whole resume
Oh yeah, i forgot it's been filming for soo damned long that it'll be baked with the same batch of humor as Thor 4, and Victoria Alonso's CGI oversight, and Dr Strangemom's "Honey, I Upstaged the Lead!" trick.
Ok, "modern audiences", your turn. You turn in the box office results, bc I'm out.
Yeah, and the rumor is that the reshoots were to remove the "goofy" parts. It just confirms this was going to be a jeuvenile comdey and will probably retain some traces of that in the final product
If I wanna be lectured and/or told I'm wrong then I'll turn on FOX, CNN, MSNBC or go to church. I've never watched an entertaining virtue signalling movie in my life. I'm just looking for pure entertainment when watching a movie/TV show thanks. Until anything Disney related gets some positive reviews, by those not in their pocket, I shall keep my money in my pocket. I won't fund incompetence.
Aye shout out to zeb wells and CBR. His writing might save it, he did some great runs for the comics and I didn't know he was credited in this.
Movies are suppose to allow you to escape from our reality, politics is so annoying.
9:35 straight fire 🔥🔥🔥
If the youtube career doesn't take off, I feel like I could be a DJ, haha
Wonder if we'll ever get a team-up movie of Kamala Khan, Matt Murdock, and Ben Grimm. I mean, if we're determined to go full polarization of message, then seems like at least that team-up could be somewhat interesting, especially since those three's personalities couldn't be more different. (I joke, of course. Are there any openly Protestant superheroes?)
I miss ThinkGeek too.
Now the site redirects to gamestop. Ugh