思春期で悶々とするキヨマサは誰も止められない【東山動物園】2023/09/22 金曜日

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  • @Mr.Gori_1996
    @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +9

    2023/09/22 金曜日
    名古屋市にある東山動植物園で撮影したニシローランドゴリラのシャバーニ一家です。
    この日はキヨマサが興奮気味でドラミングをしたりネネにちょっかいを出したりと興奮気味。
    お昼ご飯も待ち遠しい。
    キヨマサとネネが交尾しているようなシーンがありますが、現地に毎日調査研究に来ている京都大学の先生はポーズだけだから大丈夫だと言ってました。
    年頃となりキヨマサもよくアニーにちょっかいを出しますが、ポーズだけで挿入はしていないとの確認を取っています。
    2023/09/22 Friday
    The Shabani family of western lowland gorillas photographed at Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Garden in Nagoya.
    On this day, Kiyomasa was very excited, drumming and making fun of Nene.
    I can't wait for lunch.
    There is a scene where Kiyomasa and Nene appear to be mating, but a professor from Kyoto University who comes to the scene every day to conduct research said it was okay because it was just a pose.
    Now that she's around that age, Kiyomasa often makes fun of Annie, but she confirms that she's only posing and not inserting herself.
    #Gorilla #Shabani #シャバーニ #東山動植物園 #東山動物園 #大猩猩 #고릴라 #गोरिल्ला #горилла #বনমানুষ

  • @SergFreest
    @SergFreest Месяц назад +1

    Hope they will be a happy couple ❤

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Месяц назад

      Thank you for your comment. We hope you will continue to support this channel and Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Gardens.

  • @VA4LVRS
    @VA4LVRS Год назад +20

    That’s more than a pose,, he’s got hips moving

    • @nancyjohnson5868
      @nancyjohnson5868 Год назад

      He was 100% having sex with His Mother 😡

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @dudadossantos3646
    @dudadossantos3646 Год назад +15

    Eu so fico pensando o que acontece quando não está sendo filmado 🤦‍♀️ Kiyomasa tem que sair, depois pode ter outra briga familiar. E bem apenas queria que shabani não fosse muito sensível, porque todos eles aproveitam da bondade dele. Shabani e o gorila mais carinhoso, respeitoso e romântico que eu conheço. Concerteza se nene e Kiyomasa tivesse oumbi como líder já era... eles tem muita sorte!!

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +8

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

    • @ellenknell9645
      @ellenknell9645 Год назад +5

      @@Mr.Gori_1996 I'm sure this professor is right. We often forget they are animals and live within a whole different kingdom. I'm sure the zoo wouldn't allow something that would harm them in any way.

    • @MySkinnydip
      @MySkinnydip Год назад +6

      He is a romantic for sure!😊

    • @dudadossantos3646
      @dudadossantos3646 Год назад +6

      ​@@Mr.Gori_1996Annie e muito paciente mesmo adoro ela ❤. Espero que so seja posar mesmo...

    • @JenniHanke
      @JenniHanke 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Mr.Gori_1996Und eine Mutter Gorilla wird auch nicht mit ihrem Sohn Sex haben.Da sind sie genau wie erwachsene Gorillas Töchter ganz rigoros zu Männchen,die mit ihnen nah verwandt sind.
      In diesem Video ist Nena aber entspannt und genießt die Nähe zu ihrem Sohn und sein Streicheln.Ich fand das Video sehr schön.Danke Mr.Gori❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ZombieQueen819
    @ZombieQueen819 Год назад +13

    If I was able to travel and got to go see the Shabani troop I’d be like the kids yelling SHABANI I LOVE YOU 💕!!

  • @DenisetonioSantos
    @DenisetonioSantos Год назад +6

    I wish they could live in the wild.

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +3

      I'm sorry for making you feel uncomfortable. Hello, Gorilla Japan ☆ Thank you for your support of the Japanese Gorilla Channel.

  • @BasBasuki-f4p
    @BasBasuki-f4p Год назад +4

    😊

  • @jeannielindquist3952
    @jeannielindquist3952 Год назад +17

    That's a lot of hip movement for a pose

    • @nancyjohnson5868
      @nancyjohnson5868 Год назад

      It’s called sex

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

    • @CookieWoods.
      @CookieWoods. Месяц назад

      @@Gori_1973 why do you keep regurgitating this same falsehood. That is NOT a pose, some of us have common sense! That gorilla is clearly mating! They don't want to own the fact that this is captive behavior. In the wild, these gorillas are able to leave the troop to prevent inbreeding! Japan doesn't want to admit that all of their gorillas are closely related!

  • @ShouldHaveBeenAStripper
    @ShouldHaveBeenAStripper Год назад +10

    8:32 For a few seconds I thought that was Shabani. Kiyo is growing fast! ❤

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +7

      Kiyomasa is starting to look more and more like Shabani.

    • @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь
      @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь Год назад +2

      Самки предпочитают Киемаса.Шабани там никого уже.

  • @ChristineCole-kl4vu
    @ChristineCole-kl4vu Год назад +7

    A pose? hahahahahahahaha ok then lol

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @acm9711
    @acm9711 Год назад +29

    It’s so sad that Japan didn’t have a proper breeding plan in place. Their disregard has resulted in all the gorillas in Japan being too closely related. Gorillas reaching sexual maturity have no potential mates to create new troops. So these young and upcoming gorillas will mate with whoever is available and willing to mate. Father, mother, granny, daughter, son, brother, sister, granddaughter, grandson, will seek gratification with whoever is available to them. You are correct, they aren’t humans. But that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be treated humanely. Boy haven’t humans totally failed these creatures?? They deserve better, a much better and more fulfilling life than we dumb humans have given them!! Hopefully Japanese zoos will manage birth control better than they have everything else!!!

    • @kraftdinner2336
      @kraftdinner2336 Год назад +6

      Thank You for commenting on what most of us is thinking to. You detailed and emphasized exactly what is Really happening in these zoo's. Thanks once again, take Care.

    • @CookieWoods.
      @CookieWoods. Месяц назад

      Thank you so much for saying this. I get so sick of seeing ppl in the comments attempting to convince others that this is normal in gorilla society. When the fact is, in the wild, they leave the troop to prevent inbreeding. This is captive behavior!

  • @lizzyyork
    @lizzyyork Год назад +32

    I love how the video poster gives us the thoughts from the gorilla expert as if it's okay. No one thinks is Kiyo is actually mating for real. He's humping her because he's going through natural gorilla hormones and urges. The point why people are upset, is because this type of behavior WILL eventually get him in a fight with his much larger father. It exactly what happens in the wild when the blackback is caught doing this by the Silverback. They fight, and the smaller of the two leaves. Here that can't happen, he's stuck in a cage which means both Kiyo and Shabani are in serious danger because the zoo is too crappy to recognize what every other zoo in the Western world does and WHY separating them is so important. Trying to make excuses and not saying something against this behavior to the zoo officials is wrong. Every zoo in Japan treats their gorillas like this and I'm starting to realize it's perhaps something in the Japanese culture that is seriously wrong with your lack of sympathy and awareness towards animal cruelty. Not that it's surprising with how other Asian countries treat animals but just disapponting to see that Japan and it's people not more evolved than this. You keep visiting this terrible zoo and giving them money so they can continue. Until your people stand up, and admit there is a problem it will continue and you're contributing it. And a last note, less barbaric people find incest of any kind disgusting to watch. Animals or not. Glad you get your views though.

    • @stevemorris6790
      @stevemorris6790 Год назад +10

      You are right and I don’t think they have any plans how to avoid those situations. I like you thought the Japanese were a little more sophisticated than some others Asia countries were they eat animals and treating them so badly. But unfortunately they have this way where animals aren’t that special like we think they are. I sent money to the Kyoto zoo but seems too they are not improving idem.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 Год назад +6

      Thank you for your comments and opinions. I apologize for making you feel uncomfortable.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 Год назад +6

      @@stevemorris6790
      Thank you for your comments and opinions. I apologize for making you feel uncomfortable.

    • @R52-e7q
      @R52-e7q Год назад +5

      @lizzyyork & @stevemorris6790 Would you please take your anti Asian bias and your divisive we vs. they differentiation and get lost? For good!

    • @Gretta1759
      @Gretta1759 Год назад +10

      @@stevemorris6790Это очень хорошо, что Вы помогаете зоопаркам. Но мне кажется, что надо писать петиции, запрещающие зоопаркам в Японии содержать животных, особенно - гоминоидов. Такое безнравственное отношение к ним прикрывается научными домыслами, которые не соответствуют действительности. Мы видим, что самка находится в позе для спаривания и сын ничего не имитирует, а именно - спаривается со своей матерью. Пусть этот профессор расскажет, в каком возрасте в Европе взрослых детей забирают из семьи. Такого безобразия, как в Японии нигде нет. И почему этот профессор не объяснит, по какой причине самки не спариваются с Шабани, а с удовольствием подставляют свой зад для молодого самца и какую роль в этом играет Нене. Это или полное незнание поведения горилл в природе, а скорее всего, такими объяснениями прикрывают бездеятельность зоопарков и нежелание (невозможность) менять ситуацию. Я против содержания животных в зоопарках, но то что творят с нашими ближайшими родственниками в Японии - это безнравственно и противно. Я прошу прощения, что не пишу на английском языке. К сожалению, я плохо им владею.

  • @sandraphillips1718
    @sandraphillips1718 Год назад +18

    Look how Kiyo has grown and he's mating with his mother.🙄🙄🤦😮🫣😱

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +8

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

    • @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь
      @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь Год назад +3

      ​@@Mr.Gori_1996у вас там всё нормально 😮! Деньги рулят.

    • @EmmaDee
      @EmmaDee Год назад

      @@Mr.Gori_1996ARE YOU INTENTIONALLY LYING OR STUPID?

  • @VA4LVRS
    @VA4LVRS Год назад +5

    He’s like meet me later when no cameras and you can have it all

  • @dickoardianpratomo
    @dickoardianpratomo Год назад +2

    Sip

  • @bigboytoyz541
    @bigboytoyz541 Год назад +12

    I feel sorry for these young gorillas.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @elzbietapaczkowska2098
    @elzbietapaczkowska2098 Год назад +5

    Sono annoiati e tristi 🤔😟

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @ellenknell9645
    @ellenknell9645 Год назад +10

    Let's not forget gorillas are not human.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @bluduece420
    @bluduece420 Год назад +9

    Wow, Kiyomasa mating with his mother. No wonder Shabani is mad at him all the time

    • @nancyjohnson5868
      @nancyjohnson5868 Год назад

      Yes He was having sex with His Mother and Yes it’s going to end up in a Huge Fight one day 😡

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @kraftdinner2336
    @kraftdinner2336 Год назад +9

    6:45 That is Definitely Not a Pose.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

    • @terrellrobinson3286
      @terrellrobinson3286 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Gori_1973 I don't care what your expert said.....that was coitus.

  • @Mr.Gori_1996
    @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +6

    キヨマサとネネが交尾しているようなシーンがありますが、現地に毎日調査研究に来ている京都大学の先生はポーズだけだから大丈夫だと言ってました。
    年頃となりキヨマサもよくアニーにちょっかいを出しますが、ポーズだけで挿入はしていないとの確認を取っています。
    There is a scene where Kiyomasa and Nene appear to be mating, but a professor from Kyoto University who comes to the scene every day to conduct research said it was okay because it was just a pose.
    Now that she's around that age, Kiyomasa often makes fun of Annie, but she confirms that she's only posing and not inserting herself.
    #東山動植物園

    • @acm9711
      @acm9711 Год назад +2

      Posing?? For what the cute visitor picture of the gorillas??? 🙄🙄 You believe that total ridiculousness over your own eyes?? You can’t possibly be that gullible and naive can you?? LOOK YOU COULDN’T WIPE THE SMILE OFF HIS FACE!!! That is the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard in a long, long time!!! It defies all logic and common sense!! It’s no wonder Japan was thrown out of WAZA if your supposed “experts” were speaking nonsense like that!!

    • @EmmaDee
      @EmmaDee Год назад +2

      ARE YOU CRAZY OR DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OR SMOKING SOMETHING!!!

  • @sharonb.9128
    @sharonb.9128 Год назад +6

    Not “Posing”. They are mating.

    • @nancyjohnson5868
      @nancyjohnson5868 Год назад +4

      100% !!! 😡

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +2

      @nancyjohnson5868
      I'm sorry for making you feel uncomfortable.

    • @sharonb.9128
      @sharonb.9128 Год назад +4

      @@nancyjohnson5868 posing? Something definitely has been “lost in translation”!

    • @SPMarti-69
      @SPMarti-69 6 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@Mr.Gori_1996Might as well just show what happens. They are captive animals with no healthy or normal outlet for their hormones. I doubt that gorillas prefer to mate with their relatives in the wild.

  • @katalala4330
    @katalala4330 Год назад +7

    Kiyo needs to find a better pose... 🤪

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @epicFrogman
    @epicFrogman Год назад +8

    Why does the Momotaro family eat better than this group? Isn't this zoo in Tokyo with more resources than Kyoto Zoo.

    • @stevemorris6790
      @stevemorris6790 Год назад +10

      They don’t. This zoo provides more fruit, vegetables and fruits!

    • @MySkinnydip
      @MySkinnydip Год назад +9

      Everyone has different opinions about the zoo’s. The Shabani’s are fed well and will actually leave food sometimes. And sometimes they will willingly share with each other.

    • @GypsyTarot
      @GypsyTarot Год назад +9

      I agree. I feel like Momotaro's troop eat more nature shrubs and stems rather than fruit which is a good thing. I can definitely see a difference on condition between the two groups. Momotaro groups just seem healthier and happier in my view.

    • @stevemorris6790
      @stevemorris6790 Год назад +1

      @@GypsyTarot , they aren’t! Could you please use your cognitive intelligence for once ? I know you like the Momotoro troop but facts are facts and you don’t have the right to create your own facts . Shabani troop is more healthy with black fur that shines versus grey dull fur of Genki and Kintaro plus tumor in Genki , terrible teeth on her etc etc . Aí Shabani wife is one the most beautiful female gorilla in the world and nene although older than Genki has a beautiful black fur that shines and matter of fact Momotoro troop tummies are full of gas because the terrible food they eat and it’s not your opinion because even for Japanese primates specialists the Kyoto zoo is considered one the worst in Japan based in facts so grown up !

    • @stevemorris6790
      @stevemorris6790 Год назад +9

      @@GypsyTarot , and by the way Shabani troop just don’t eat fruits but a big diverse menu with vegetables and legumes and you must be one of few ones that saying the Momotoro troop eats better and looks better than Shabani! If was the truth the zoo would ask for money and idem the videographer.

  • @williamshepley3923
    @williamshepley3923 Год назад +5

    Call it what you want but Kiyomasa is a M-Fr. I was glad to see him playing with his dad etc but that last little stir up is concerning. How Nene and Ai team with Kiyomasa. I wish Shabani would baptize them with his immense power and inflict pain and fear to restore his authority. 🦍

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @wintergem74
    @wintergem74 Год назад +4

    To my knowledge their natural habitats don’t have leeks, lettuce, cabbages, peppers, chestnuts, strawberries, corn on the cob, onions, etc al. Forest greenery is natural for them. They are not human even though many of us love & admire them.

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +1

      コメントありがとう御座います。
      _(_^_)_

  • @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь
    @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь Год назад +4

    Во!жарит старушку сыночек!😮😂😂😂 Где клоун 🤡 Шабани?Танцы танцует дурачок.

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @lisasenn86
    @lisasenn86 Год назад +4

    They are animals not humans so this type of thing happens especially in Captivity. In the Wild they leave the family to find a mate. Also He’s still a Very Young male who Maybe copying his father. But this is natural behavior, I’m sure they have birth control they give Annie and the others . Poor Nene looks so frail. I hope she is ok. Love them all ❤

    • @djporter9434
      @djporter9434 Год назад +6

      Its all fun and games until the silverback sees!! For whatever reason Japanese zoos think this is ok....weird!

    • @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь
      @ТАТАЮГ-з8ь Год назад

      Шабани всё давно видел , Шабани осёл!.Если бы Шабани гонял сына,то может тогда Киемаса и отсилили бы.Но,увы, Шабани это маникен уже.😢😢😢

    • @lisasenn86
      @lisasenn86 Год назад

      @@djporter9434 yes and if Silverback sees then he could Really hurt his Son. Silverback’s Kill other males in the wild including the female in some cases. Seen many Documentaries on them. Good thing they aren’t Chimpanzees ! Things wouldn’t end so well. Just hope this Gorilla family can live peacefully without anything detrimental happening

  • @sarrahimnottellingu1915
    @sarrahimnottellingu1915 3 месяца назад +1

    6:43 what the heck, Kiyomasa is mating with his own mother?!

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  3 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for your comment. Thank you for watching the video. We hope you will continue to support this channel and Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Gardens.

  • @maryharris2629
    @maryharris2629 Год назад +7

    I thought that the Silverback was the only one that could have sex with his wives. I thought that Nene was retired from having sex with her husband. Now Kiyomasa is having sex with his mom Nene. Ai doesn't seem to be interested in sex with Shabani. What if Ai gets caught with her brother Kiyomasa?

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.

  • @Sharmon-g6d
    @Sharmon-g6d Год назад +3

    Respectfully At what age do gorilla males no longer see their mother as such but a potential mating partner?

    • @GorillasInTheZoo
      @GorillasInTheZoo Год назад +10

      in the wild it's silverback's job to make sure that nobody mates with his females so naturally young blackbacks leave the troop

  • @フラワーロール
    @フラワーロール Год назад +3

    人間から丸見えは
    落ち着かないようおもえて、ゴリラが可哀想😢
    もう少し草むらを増やしたり木陰になる木を植えて自然に近い感じにして上げたいです。

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  Год назад +2

      コメントありがとう御座います😊📝
      野生のゴリラの群れをみると草むらの中に居ますからね。

  • @ChristineCole-kl4vu
    @ChristineCole-kl4vu 2 месяца назад +1

    ruclips.net/video/281Sg-fjdug/видео.html It goes on all the time it's all quite normal in their world,I have seen it many times between all family members of Gorillas,maybe your just not seeing it so you don't think it happens.

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  2 месяца назад +1

      Your valuable opinion is very helpful. Thank you very much.
      (@´・ω・`)_ _))

  • @ВераВерная-ж3и
    @ВераВерная-ж3и 2 месяца назад +1

    Эххх ь

    • @Mr.Gori_1996
      @Mr.Gori_1996  2 месяца назад

      ガーΣ(`・ω・Ⅲ)ーン😨

  • @tammydowell94
    @tammydowell94 8 месяцев назад +4

    DISGUSTING !

    • @Gori_1973
      @Gori_1973 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.