BUDGET VS EXPENSIVE DOWN JACKETS - Warm

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  • @JustinOutdoors
    @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +3

    PackWizard.com Down Jacket Database: geni.us/PW-InsulatedJackets
    👇 GEAR FROM THE VIDEO 👇
    Decathlon MT500: geni.us/MT500DownJacket
    Rab Mythic G: geni.us/MythicG

    • @viv3d
      @viv3d 3 месяца назад

      the mt500 link is broken

  • @chad.haggerty
    @chad.haggerty Месяц назад +3

    After watching this video 3-4 times, I finally picked up the MT500 before this last Calgary cold snap. Despite the -10°C rating, it was been fantastic for the last week. Thanks for the fantastic tip, Justin. For saving me money over every other option, I want to share some of my savings with you. Also: Happy New Year!

  • @RideAlongside
    @RideAlongside 3 месяца назад +13

    It’s funny that this popped up this morning. As I make maps for an environmental planning company in GIS, I was thinking how grateful I’ve been over the last 3 years of using the ForclaZ MT100 you recommended to me 3 years ago. Although I ripped a small hole in the left sleeve years ago, some Leukotape has kept it going strong and it’s always the first jacket I reach for at this time of year when headed out on the trail in the early morning whether bikepacking, fastpacking, or a training trail run. I am so thankful for your wisdom and advice Justin. More so every time I reach for the Forclaz down jacket!
    -Nick, Prescott, AZ

  • @coltoncj1
    @coltoncj1 3 месяца назад +8

    Love my decathlon down jacket! I also love how’s its more accessible to people on a budget, and if you do rip a hole in it, you’re not going to cry as much over since it’s so much more affordable

  • @frogturtle
    @frogturtle 3 месяца назад +15

    I demand more clones of Justin after watching this video. The ultimate side-by-side-by-side-by-side comparison!

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +8

      I think I need to try doubling again. 4 Justins can likely review gear better than 2, right?

    • @Art-at-the-Fortress
      @Art-at-the-Fortress 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JustinOutdoorsjust follow the golden Multiplicity rule… Never clone a clone. 😂

    • @frogturtle
      @frogturtle 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JustinOutdoors I demand a council of Justins for all gear-related questions

  • @thelosttraveller4725
    @thelosttraveller4725 3 месяца назад +21

    This presentation is excellent, but I think you left out a very important detail when talking about the price: the quality of the zipper.

    • @9abe9
      @9abe9 2 месяца назад +7

      Ykk on the Decarhlon

  • @eckiger_luki6424
    @eckiger_luki6424 3 месяца назад +2

    I just went to Decathlon and bought the MT500 after watching your video. I was looking for a good cheap down jacket for weeks and watched every youtube video on down jackets and searched for hours. I even ordered a Columbia jacket but it was too big and way to thin and cold so i returned it. The MT500 is awesome with the soft fabric in the pockets and the hat i love it

  • @Andy-Mesa
    @Andy-Mesa 3 месяца назад +14

    I have a Rab Mythic Alpine which retails for ten times what I paid for my Decathlon MT100. I still wear the Decathlon 90% of the time.

  • @JoaJoh
    @JoaJoh 3 месяца назад +5

    Your presentation and audio have been on point lately!

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      Thanks! What have you been liking about the presentation?

    • @JoaJoh
      @JoaJoh 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@JustinOutdoors The fluid cuts and variety of scenes make make the video feel a lot more visually interesting than say a year or two ago when there were more static talking to the camera shots. The way you talk about gear has always been top notch but the overall on camera confidence gives a more professional but still relatable vibe

  • @martharunstheworld
    @martharunstheworld Месяц назад

    I have a Decathlon down jacket and I've worn it on a couple trips to NYC in the winter and it's been great and the temps got down to 10 degrees. The great thing about that jacket is it folds itself into a nice little pillow that I used on the plane. I love that jacket! I've taken it on camping trips as well. I can't imagine paying a ton of $$$ for a jacket. Probably because I don't have that kind of money to spend on a jacket. LOL!

  • @channmoga
    @channmoga Месяц назад +1

    Recently bought MT500 from decathlon under brand name Forclaz. Costs me around 80USD during year end sale. The jacket is super warm and light. I feel with a good fleece below this jacket will work as good in -10 temp. I'll be spending a week in Spiti valley next month its a good place to test this jacket the temp would be as low as -20 in spiti valley. My brother bought MT900 110USD.. we'll test both jackets will share my review here.. thanks for the awesome video.

  • @pete49327
    @pete49327 2 месяца назад +1

    The bright orange colored jacket may provide better warmth in sunny/bright conditions due to better absorption of infrared or near infrared rays.

    • @jp4431
      @jp4431 15 дней назад

      How so?

  • @IPv6Freely
    @IPv6Freely Месяц назад

    I got the REI Magma 850 just because it was on clearance and I had a whole bunch of REI rewards. I'm honestly shocked by how good it is. I didn't have high hopes and figured it'd just be a day to day "fashion" jacket, but it ended up being surprisingly warm. Also, somehow surprisingly not too warm when it isn't that cold out.

  • @dylanpausic5026
    @dylanpausic5026 3 месяца назад

    Was about to go to sleep then saw a new video from the GOAT 🐐

  • @billb5732
    @billb5732 3 месяца назад +2

    Excellent concept for a video. ;)
    (I suspected this would be the result, but it's nice to know.)
    Thank you!

  • @wadly312
    @wadly312 3 месяца назад +1

    This was really useful - I’m in the market for a new down jacket so great food for thought

  • @nephivang151
    @nephivang151 Месяц назад

    If you are out of US or will ever be going out of the US I’d recommend checking there websites in that country, just went to Japan and the MT500 down jacket is only around $95 for an 800 fill down jacket that is a solid set up, similar to the one in the US decathlon website but with some fleece lined parts that I personally love, just wanted to give a tip if you are ever looking for more options or are going to Japan and want an amazing deal for a solid down jacket. Website wasn’t in English though so you may have to ask hotel staff or a person that knows the language to order the jacket and ship it to you

    • @sureshsahu2000
      @sureshsahu2000 2 дня назад

      You won't believe that I bought this jacket in just 46 dollars from Lucknow India, Decathlon outlet.

  • @gregdavey8217
    @gregdavey8217 3 месяца назад +1

    I own a Decathlon MT100 and love it , great value, my daily winter puffy. I also own some RAB gear which is fantastic as well but at a higher price. If you live in Canada and are a short drive from the US border I highly recommend Montbell Japan. Just get your sizing right and have it shipped to a US parcel service just over the border, drive over the border and pick it up. Much cheaper with the current value of the Yen compared to ordering from the North American Montbell site. I have never had to pay duty bringing it back to Canada as long as the total value isn't too high. I have their Alpine Down Parka ( insanely warm and not that heavy for a deep winter jacket, I get cold easily ) and a Storm Cruiser rain jacket and the quality is top notch ( don't recommend the Versalite for Canada as it's not actually waterproof, mine starting leaking after 20 minutes of Tofino rain, sold it. Get the Storm Cruiser instead, it's been bulletproof and still pretty light). Will probably order a Plasma 1000 next year.

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      Montbell Japan will ship directly to Canada too! I've ordered twice and didn't get hit with duties or brokerage because they ship Japan Post.

    • @gregdavey8217
      @gregdavey8217 3 месяца назад

      @@JustinOutdoors Oh wow ! That wasn't an option when I ordered in the past. Thanks for the heads up Justin. Lover their products.

    • @kgilliagorilla2761
      @kgilliagorilla2761 3 месяца назад

      I own an Alpine jacket from Montbell. Really nice for the price.

    • @nicholasvazquez5846
      @nicholasvazquez5846 2 месяца назад

      Can you still do this? I heard they updated the website so you can't buy from japan anymore for a lower price.

  • @pithon3d477
    @pithon3d477 3 месяца назад +2

    Decathlon for the win

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 3 месяца назад

    A couple of other things to think about are zipper and material quality, and customer service. On the whole it’s a great video. I never considered how “springy” different quality levels of down are.

  • @davidcooper8390
    @davidcooper8390 3 месяца назад

    Great comparison Justin. Love my Ghost Whisperer 2, but need something warmer for the colder fall trips.

  • @kevinmurray1951
    @kevinmurray1951 3 месяца назад +3

    ❤the down jackets

  • @hike2fish
    @hike2fish 3 месяца назад

    Really good review with tangible views and real world application. Cheers.

  • @wren_jo
    @wren_jo 3 месяца назад

    Used gear is a great way to get a high quality item without the price. Patagonia and REI are examples of where you can get used gear. That's how I got my puffy 😊

  • @DarkstarDarth
    @DarkstarDarth Месяц назад

    If the decathlon had YKK zippers and internal pockets it would be a steal

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  Месяц назад

      Pretty sure it has ykk zippers (the mt100 does). I also think it has two internal drop pockets. But I'm not home right now so can't dbl check.

  • @marcusohlsson3130
    @marcusohlsson3130 3 месяца назад

    Oooo Justin, you look adoreable in both!

  • @Keefe_Outdoors
    @Keefe_Outdoors 3 месяца назад

    I just bought a $500 montbell mirage parka, but from the japan website so its only $250 cuz the yen is weak. kinda stoked to see how well it works in Colorado this winter. decathalon is great though, use it as daily jacket for around town and for backpacking.

    • @nicholasvazquez5846
      @nicholasvazquez5846 2 месяца назад

      Is this still possible I thought you couldn't do this anymore because they updated the website? Do you have a link?

  • @mikekraut7643
    @mikekraut7643 3 месяца назад

    Would love to see you get your hands on some Timmermade gear to test out

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      I refuse to be awake when the new order window opens and there is never any capacity left by morning unfortunately

  • @grahamriley8124
    @grahamriley8124 Месяц назад

    Matters little what it costs. Does it match you (fit) and your needs? Get those wrong and you could be in for torrid time. If you’re lucky the cheap one works for you!

  • @BENJAMIN-ut4rb
    @BENJAMIN-ut4rb 3 месяца назад +8

    1:05 the price is wrong fyi

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      Surprising I only messed up one spec wit ha copy and paste error!

  • @L4mTr4n
    @L4mTr4n 2 месяца назад

    Wonder if you ever tested the Black Diamond Deploy Hoodie. With 1000 down fill, I think it’s in the similar category as Montbell Plasma and Rab Mythic G.

  • @IanTheOutdoorGuy
    @IanTheOutdoorGuy 3 месяца назад +3

    Wow I didn't even know there was a thing as live plucking of geese. Definitely think there is an argument for animal welfare in mind hiking gear. Thanks for sharing

  • @Mario-cr1ik
    @Mario-cr1ik 2 месяца назад

    The decathlon MT500 down jacket (with hood) is currently at $105 (at least in Europe), my parcel is on the way.

  • @nicholasvazquez5846
    @nicholasvazquez5846 Месяц назад

    ​ @JustinOutdoors What is the warmth difference between the MT500 and patagonia's down sweater hoody.

  • @tgvaillancourt
    @tgvaillancourt 3 месяца назад +2

    Nemo tensor extreme vs naturehike r8.8 pad. It gonna get cold soon would be a good test. Naturehike is 1/2 the price of the tensor extreme

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +3

      I have Tensor XC vs Xtherm coming soon. There are a lot of new pads on the market from brands who don't traditionally make good pads that I need to try, including some of the naturehike options. That's one of the missions in 2025! Baby Josie has really cut into pad testing time...

    • @camperlists-3fulgeardistr
      @camperlists-3fulgeardistr 3 месяца назад +2

      You should choose Lighttour R7.5. That is 10cm. Lighttour is a OEM product for NH. NH R8.8 is 12cm. When you sleep on it, it shakes a lot, which is bad for your waist. Because I am the distributor of those products.

  • @Mario-cr1ik
    @Mario-cr1ik 2 месяца назад

    @JustinOutdoors: (00:51) According to Decathlon Description, the MT500 now uses 800 Cuin Down, not 850. But not much of a difference

  • @marcb1289
    @marcb1289 3 месяца назад

    In France, the Decathlon MT500 is given as 800 cuin.

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      EU vs US measuring system

    • @natea1042
      @natea1042 3 месяца назад +1

      He means that the fillpower is 800 not 850. Says as much on all the decathlon sites. The overall warmth rating is still almost the same though.

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +1

      @@natea1042 the FP is 800 using the EU measurement system and 850 using the US measurement system.

  • @AndersRamm
    @AndersRamm 3 месяца назад

    Please make same video for downpants. Really big difference between naturehike and other brands

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +2

      I haven't really found any down pants I really like. I mostly just make do.

    • @AndersRamm
      @AndersRamm 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JustinOutdoors I am also very much on the fence about them in general. But except a fire, I can’t think of another way of keeping my legs warm while being completely stationary at camp 🏕️

    • @euphonek
      @euphonek 3 месяца назад +1

      I love the Kuiu down pants. Zippers all the way up the sides, so easy to get on/off.

    • @AndersRamm
      @AndersRamm 3 месяца назад

      @@euphonek at what temperatures do you use these?

  • @Alpsbae
    @Alpsbae 2 месяца назад

    Can I ask what size are you wearing for the Rab Mythic G?

  • @ostrichhollow9327
    @ostrichhollow9327 3 месяца назад

    Can you review the flextail zero r05 ultralight mattress?

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад

      I've been testing it. It will likely get an unfavorable review because the outside baffles lack insulation, which is a deal breaker for me.

  • @alexandertourville5015
    @alexandertourville5015 3 месяца назад

    I noticed that decathlon states their jackets run small. I usually wear a size large. Do you think it would make sense to upsize to an XL?

    • @rvpcqp
      @rvpcqp 2 месяца назад +1

      Definitely. I usually wear a Large Tall size and the XL fits well over one layer but is a bit tight over extra layers like a hoodie. If you’re planning to wear in moderately cold temps over a T-shirt or something (kept me warm down to low 40’s) get 1 size up. If using over multiple layers adding 2 sizes might be better.

  • @kgilliagorilla2761
    @kgilliagorilla2761 3 месяца назад +1

    Columbia has had the reflector interior for a long time. Just saying

  • @johncarnes2688
    @johncarnes2688 3 месяца назад

    I still love my fleece even though it weighs more

  • @kevinguthrie5495
    @kevinguthrie5495 3 месяца назад

    Seems expensive for a jacket with sown-through seams. Are there any out there with box baffles?.

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +2

      Decathlon Simond Down Parka and Rab Mythic Ultra have box baffles and are really solid jackets

  • @arminhodzic8498
    @arminhodzic8498 3 месяца назад

    Right now Decathlon Germany offers MT500 for 80€.

  • @browsman2328
    @browsman2328 3 месяца назад

    Justin has met his doppelgänger

  • @johnliebel3325
    @johnliebel3325 3 месяца назад

    Justin and Dustin Outdoors

  • @xjessukx
    @xjessukx 3 месяца назад +4

    I'm lucky enough to live near the rab factory shop

    • @Mike-t9c2x
      @Mike-t9c2x 2 месяца назад

      Lol that's a supreme perk..

  • @sureshsahu2000
    @sureshsahu2000 2 дня назад

    You won't believe that I bought this jacket I just 46 dollars from Lucknow India, Decathlon outlet.

  • @EVANHIRSCHMANG
    @EVANHIRSCHMANG 3 месяца назад

    dont spend 500 on a down jacket unless you got money basically

  • @alpineearth
    @alpineearth 3 месяца назад

    That’s just Two much

  • @The_Arby
    @The_Arby 3 месяца назад +1

    Your paying $200 just for the Rab name, lol

  • @sebulban
    @sebulban 3 месяца назад

    Nice review.
    Would like to see a review from really warm down jackets. Those 2 are still considered as lightweight puffs even though they offer quite good insulation.
    I’m talking something like arcteryx alpha parka or Fjällräven expedition down jacket. There seems to be none of those in RUclips and I need a new one 😅

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors  3 месяца назад +4

      I might do a Decathlon Simond Down Parka vs Rab Mythic Ultra

    • @dave_ben
      @dave_ben 3 месяца назад

      @@JustinOutdoors do it!

  • @gregoryoutdoors
    @gregoryoutdoors 3 месяца назад

    Also Rab is very overpriced here in UK also comparing to other brand, its good and I have few items but still...

  • @davegreen7853
    @davegreen7853 3 месяца назад +1

    I want a quilt not full of down but synthetic fibers as I hate the thought of sleeping in dead animal products , I need it to go at least -5 celsius. I found out today some bags use what they call live bird feathers. This means the poor animal was plucked while it was alive then continued to live till it was fat enough to killed be eaten. I don’t want this on my conscious, and apparently many bags and quilts use these fathers. No cool no good. So man use your knowledge and support animal free products and recommend what I can buy. I am sure all reading this now will want an alternative regardless of price.

  • @Daisy_Chain762
    @Daisy_Chain762 3 месяца назад

    No live plucking? Im out😂

  • @josephnoonan82
    @josephnoonan82 3 месяца назад +5

    I love how $140 is budget.......

    • @medimalismus
      @medimalismus 3 месяца назад +8

      vor 1 Minute
      What do you expect? Labour, farbrics and especially down has its price. You could get it cheaper if you want the geese to have completely f****d up living conditions and super low quality down. Get a synthetic jacket if you want it cheap.

    • @josephnoonan82
      @josephnoonan82 3 месяца назад +1

      @@medimalismus $140 for a jacket is not budget

    • @audiojck1
      @audiojck1 3 месяца назад +3

      An ultralight down jacket is kind of a luxury item anyway though.
      If you want budget try to find a used one.

    • @conquesttsi88
      @conquesttsi88 3 месяца назад +1

      $50 is more of what a budget jacket can be at. Anything hire should not be considered as budget.

    • @audiojck1
      @audiojck1 3 месяца назад +1

      @@conquesttsi88 are you angry that a RUclipsr uses clickbaity titles?
      At least the summary is that the less premium jacket is also fine.