Well he's a typical Spurs fan. After years of mediocrity and not quite getting there, you'll relegate your feelings to 'putting pressure,' and 'despite the loss, they had more possession....'
Love how lampard just says "you don't have to play well to win finals" and then jenas can't reply cause he doesn't know what it's like to play in a BIG final
Jason did he win a champions league trophy, a premier league trophy or even an FA cup? No, all jermaine jenas has to show for his career is one league cup trophy, one run in the champions league and a couple of England caps.
@@zaksmith6718 not really, sits their thinking he’s pep on motd, sitting there criticising every time the toon don’t win, he was a pathetic appointment and showed he is a useless manager. He is also a rude prick to members of the public. Won’t pose for photos for kids, insists to be called mr shearer, and thinks he’s god at Newcastle airport 🔔 end
@@css8636 He is a god in the eyes of most people in newcastle, without him we wouldnt have got any recognition in football, he might be a bellend but no newcastle fan should give a shit for what hes done for us
@@css8636 Everyone thinks they know how to win a game hes just doing it on tele whereas fans are debating with friends etc about it, no need to whinge on about it mate
Qwerty Qwertyson He isn't suited up in a studio and paid as a pundit. But he is the most important part of the sport. Like you and me. He pays for these studios, players, managers, everyone. He is a paying fan. He pays for match tickets, he pays for sports subscription on TV.
For a guy with no career he's got Mills in the bank and in property. I was at forest with him from 15yrs old til 17 when everyone got released other than him.
Yeah mental, what's this ex professional doing in a studio with 2 other ex professionals. Didn't know you needed to have trophies to become a pundit. Not sure what, savage, crouch, redknapp etc are doing on TV. Should only have the likes of Neville, Carragher, keane, Souness. Anyone that hasn't won anything should not be allowed an opinion, its mental haha
@@pj1995____ Oh I'm sorry, so that makes it mental that he's next to Shearer and Lampard because you think he's a bellend? I don't think it's Jenas or me that's the bellend
@@simplelife88393 he’s a shit pundit, a spade is a spade. You can’t trump a spade with a race card...people play race cards like wildcards at this point, thinking they can be played to permit foul play or incompetence without question. Rest assured, they can’t.
12 seconds in, Jenas hesitates to express his point because Shearer intimidated him with body and head movements. On top of that, 3 unbelievable English legends amongst an ok player.
I’m a spurs fan, and i agree with Shearer. We looked strong in possession but never really looked like opening them up. Chelsea has a game plan and if worked . Whereas spurs just hugged and puffed.
Lineker: Everton and England legend. Shearer: Blackburn, Newcastle and England legend. Lampard : Chelsea and England legend. Jenas: Poor man's Jesse Lingard.
Yeah I agree with the other comments, Jenas was making a good point, Shearer came back with a textbook but valid point also as he was a striker and you need to put the ball in the net. He didnt 'boy' Jenas at all.
How a team plays in a final is largely irrelevant, especially in the face of the result. The best teams capitalise on chances presented to them even if they're playing badly. You don't win the game simple by creating chances, it's the scoring that counts.
Look at his face when Shearer talks, "I know better than you" he's thinking. He's sat in the presence of two Premier League icons and (it pains me to say this) a true Football Icon in the shape of Gary Lineker and he acts like he knows better than all of them and that they're just ball boys.
years ago, during the KD era, there was an open day at the training ground, a few of the players were doing keep ups and tricks, one fan asked Shearer, why carnt you do it, so he took the ball and did some keeps ups, he turned to the fan and said, id do it more if there was a point to it, you just have to put the ball in the back of the net, and im good at that.
@@Anonymous56657 no he's just someone who never accomplished much in his professional career comparing to Shearer and Lampard but he's not a nobody. He is entitled to give his point of view as he works as part of the pundit in the studio. He can't just keep quiet and say nothing about what transpired in the match, maybe he's a fan of the team but let give the man respect for holding his ground and confident despite the others status well as how he was being cordially and respectful to the other greats in the room.
@IRISH LAD There's plenty of terrible boring white pundits, Michael Owen for example. I know you may not be 100% serious but that sort of attitude makes life difficult for black people, because regardless of how good they are it always boils down to 'you got the job because you're black'. For the record I like Jenas, he's eloquent at least
Literally a point that is made 50 times a season but this is somehow singled out. He was also replying to Shearer saying he thought they deserved to win.
Jenas has always been a weird one for me as pundit selection. I mean, fair play to him, he's had a career in football, made his living, can retire. But there are absolutely fucking loads of retired players who's opinions and knowledge is worth more for tuning into.
There's a reason Jenas is a bit part MOTD guest presenter and Frank Lampard is managing one of the world's biggest clubs. Oh and it isn't just playing careers.
Dude Frank lampard isn't a good manager. Very few people think he is good. The only reason he ever was allowed to manage Chelsea is cause he played for Chelsea. And the only reason it looks as though Chelsea are doing well is cause he spent a ton of money on like 10 attackers.
The point is this. No matter how many titles, trophies, goals or caps they may have won, Shearer was saying that Chelsea deserved the victory. Even Chelsea fans would be hard pressed to say that they deserved it, they were under the cosh for large chunks of the game, just as Man Utd didn't deserve to beat Southampton in the League Cup final. Jenas was just calling him on his misplaced view. In football though, you often don't get what you deserve.
csb73 The only point Jenas had was that Spurs dominated possession and kept Chelsea in their own half. If you knew anything about football you'd know Chelsea are a counter attacking team, so they were happy to sit and soak up the pressure from Spurs and hit on the break, and it clearly worked
Didn’t sound like shearer was saying that at all, sounded like he was saying chelsea took their chances and Tottenham had all the possession but only managed 4 shots on target, remember watching it thinking we had no chance the way we played but we done what the top teams do, find any way to win finals
It doesnt matter who is 'under the cosh,' the one statistic that counts for anything in football is goals, and it doesn't matter how you score them, they are deservedly earned regardless. You wouldn't give Spurs 3 goals here because they 'deserved the win.' Chelsea deserved to win this game as they scored 4 goals to Tottenham's 2 and unless the scoreline was affected by a big refereeing error, Chelsea deserved the win
csb73 ofcourse Chelsea deserved the victory, they won the game, that means they deserved it, they were more clinical, possession doesn't win you games kid, Spurs only had 4 shots on goal and conceded 4 goals, obviously they didn't deserve to win
Jenas is easily the best pundit about at the moment, running circles around the dinosaurs as he actually has an idea of the realities of the modern game
Anyone would think Jenas used to play for spurs the way he went on....oh wait 😂. Shearer and Jenas weren't exactly best pals at Newcastle by all accounts.
I love how now Mourinho is at spurs and has that more pragmatic approach but is getting results, the first thing that is said that spurs got dominated as Alan said “You don’t win football matches with possession”
Aye squandering aggregate leads in the europa, couldn’t happen to a better manager, dinosaur tactics and not the manager he was, not even a tiny bit. Funny he doesn’t call himself the special one anymore
Don Jon jenas had a point but the fan side got the better of him there, usually very well composed.. i remember watching it live and cringing at the fact that he sounded quite pathetic which to be fair to him as a pundit is unlike him.
@@laidbare819 Jenas looked at it from a fan perspective, sadly he is a pundit so he should be seeing interim that perspective like shearer so hardly a moron is he
If that was Newcastle dominating against chelsea then shearer would no way be saying chelsea deserved to win.And lampard is never gonna say anything against his former club.
Sometimes you don,t open your mouth and be belligerent when you are among the greatest of your profession and argue with them,he came off looking petulant
I agree,he has criticised Newcastle in the past and with good reason as they werent playing good football,bought bad players,management was questionable.What i said though was if Newcastle had played like spurs did and dominated chelsea but still lost then im sure he wouldnt say that chelsea deserved to win. He would give credit where credits due if it was his beloved Newcastle camping chelsea in their own half.
Jenas the type of guy to keep going on about how Spurs put the pressure on that one season
Well he's a typical Spurs fan. After years of mediocrity and not quite getting there, you'll relegate your feelings to 'putting pressure,' and 'despite the loss, they had more possession....'
+davd1986 wow what an insightful chap you are
James Jarrett wow, what a salty spurs fan you are
He’s still talking shit on tv. Like offers zero insight and bland as hell
3 years later nothing’s changed 😂 he was the same last night after the Everton loss.
Love how lampard just says "you don't have to play well to win finals" and then jenas can't reply cause he doesn't know what it's like to play in a BIG final
Hahaha
Haha spot on mate
Alex Willis You kids keep talking shit yet forget that Jermaine Jenas beat Frank Lampard in a final so...
Alex Willis how many finals did Alan shearer win?
Jason did he win a champions league trophy, a premier league trophy or even an FA cup? No, all jermaine jenas has to show for his career is one league cup trophy, one run in the champions league and a couple of England caps.
Lampard done jenas a favour by interrupting. Shearer was mugging him off lol
Shearer is a c**t. And I’m a Geordie before you ask
@@css8636 Yeah but hes always right when he decides to be one
@@zaksmith6718 not really, sits their thinking he’s pep on motd, sitting there criticising every time the toon don’t win, he was a pathetic appointment and showed he is a useless manager. He is also a rude prick to members of the public. Won’t pose for photos for kids, insists to be called mr shearer, and thinks he’s god at Newcastle airport 🔔 end
@@css8636 He is a god in the eyes of most people in newcastle, without him we wouldnt have got any recognition in football, he might be a bellend but no newcastle fan should give a shit for what hes done for us
@@css8636 Everyone thinks they know how to win a game hes just doing it on tele whereas fans are debating with friends etc about it, no need to whinge on about it mate
0:14 Shearer's thinking, "oioi pet, didn't you used to dry my socks back in Newcastle? "
😂😂
A flag or smthg fell off at the bg at the timestamp 😂
Lol Gary completely stirred that up
LOOOOL shut down by players that actually had careers.
Lewigicfc99 How many England caps did you get?
Qwerty Qwertyson
He probably got more than jenas...
Qwerty Qwertyson He isn't suited up in a studio and paid as a pundit. But he is the most important part of the sport. Like you and me. He pays for these studios, players, managers, everyone. He is a paying fan. He pays for match tickets, he pays for sports subscription on TV.
For a guy with no career he's got Mills in the bank and in property. I was at forest with him from 15yrs old til 17 when everyone got released other than him.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The guy in the middle knows what he’s talking about, he should manage Chelsea!
😂😂😂
Underrated comment
That’s Frank Lampard fella, not “the guy in the middle” lol 😂
@@chaytonrobertson3692 if you couldn’t tell the guy was joking u are an idiot
@S S top comment😂😂
Could've stopped the sentence at "Frank, you'd be pretty upset if you were in that spurs team."
😂😂😂
Thank god Lampard stepped in, Shearer would’ve destroyed him.
I wish he did - I generally agree with Shearer in his points, and he usually stands his ground when I would of I’ve noticed.
shearer looks like a japanese brudda at 01:05
Jefferies hihihaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOOOOL
Jefferies Aran Sheera
@@user-xv6um9nr3z aran shirota
Two legends and Jenas. Absolute pleb.
No Name A lazy fucker at Newcastle
Three with lineker added
Basically Jenas is like my brother when I crush him at fifa and he points to how he’s had more shots and possession lol
Your bro needs to get better at shooting. Then, he will crush you.
Jenas should show a bit more reverence he is sharing the studio with 2 premier league winners
JOE HAWKINGS legends*
Giantpringle HD Gary lineker is the 3rd one
+Jesse Mbayi Lineker didn't play the prem, he went to Japan
death mam played in div 1
flying dutchman123 yeah never played in the premier league but
Typical Jenas, average player sat with 3 legends, pretending he’s got a clue
0:56 The little smirk
The fact jenas is even sat next to those two legends is mental haha
Yeah mental, what's this ex professional doing in a studio with 2 other ex professionals. Didn't know you needed to have trophies to become a pundit. Not sure what, savage, crouch, redknapp etc are doing on TV. Should only have the likes of Neville, Carragher, keane, Souness. Anyone that hasn't won anything should not be allowed an opinion, its mental haha
@@Billyb0b557 nah I just don't like jenas in general mate wasn't on about his football career, the guy seems like a proper bellend, just like yourself
@@pj1995____ Oh I'm sorry, so that makes it mental that he's next to Shearer and Lampard because you think he's a bellend? I don't think it's Jenas or me that's the bellend
@@Billyb0b557 "Not sure what, savage, crouch, redknapp etc are doing on TV" I'm glad someone else said it mate.
Lampard clever move to interrupt them
Alan just smiles in a smug way
Two legends of the game and Jermaine Jenas.
Jermain jenas should be banned from punditry he hasn’t got a clue
Too late mate...he’s trampled in far more than is needed already!
Bit racist
@@simplelife88393 he’s a shit pundit, a spade is a spade.
You can’t trump a spade with a race card...people play race cards like wildcards at this point, thinking they can be played to permit foul play or incompetence without question.
Rest assured, they can’t.
@@simplelife88393 explain how that's racist ?
He literally said hes a shit pundit - which to be fair, he us. No mention of skin color. Just that hes shit at his job, the truth.
He's a typical spurs fan. Most deluded set of fans in the world
Circle 25 except united
Badge Man how are they deluded
cody cena AFTV thank u very much
Ah just North London in general, they're all drinking the same kool-aid up in those ends
All the fans of the London clubs are delusional wankers
Jenas lucky that Lampard stepped in, Shearer was about to end him 😂
Ones a world class legend and amazing pundit, one presents the one show, occasionally, I know who I would rather listen to
Lampard subtly calming the situation. Cool dude.
Shearer just literally pulled Jenas’s pants down! Your talking to a Legend son !
Being a good pundit doesn't need a few titles behind you, just a good understanding of the game
So Jenas fails on every count, got it.
I can’t be the only one who finds ‘boys’ hilarious I can’t stop laughing. It’s so accurate tho 😂😂😂😂
what
Matt Cooper like the title could have said ‘owns’ but I haven’t heard ‘boys’ in years 😂😂
Meme Lord 😂😂
I use it all the time now.
Legend Shearer, legend Lampard and Jenas.
Spurs typical Fan boy....thinks football is possession lol
Better get used to supporting Europa League team 😂
rehim mehdi your opinion is worthless
Dough Boy so is your possession
How things have changed hahaha
@@myparentsaredisappointedin4806 not for Spain and Barcelona it isn't
I come back to this every few weeks, it's my favourite video just perfect
Randers would be proud
You sound like a sad, sad person. Try to watch some positive content
@@AB-vi8zl you must be a spurs fan
Jenas is a right melt
I love how Alan used to play with jenas at Newcastle, look at the difference between the two now😂😂😂
12 seconds in, Jenas hesitates to express his point because Shearer intimidated him with body and head movements. On top of that, 3 unbelievable English legends amongst an ok player.
Big up Shearer for letting Jenas talk and make his point
As a Spurs fan, we don’t claim him.
I’m a spurs fan, and i agree with Shearer. We looked strong in possession but never really looked like opening them up. Chelsea has a game plan and if worked . Whereas spurs just hugged and puffed.
Goals win games! I hate it when people say their team deserved to win. If you can’t score more than the other team then you don’t deserve it. End of!
not really. there is also factor named “luck“. just being unlucky and lose a game doesnt mean u didnt deserve it.
One of them dons that defends there team no matter what even when they’re wrong lmao
He’s like the Owen Jones of motd
Frank like the angel on both shoulders 👼
Jenas thinking he knows his stuff.. he's like a noob compared to Lamps and Shearer😂
He’s always putting his foot in it
Lampard wrecked him so bad with his last comment hahaha
Lineker: Everton and England legend. Shearer: Blackburn, Newcastle and England legend. Lampard : Chelsea and England legend. Jenas: Poor man's Jesse Lingard.
How Jermaine Jenas has a job being a pundit is mind blowing
Yeah I agree with the other comments, Jenas was making a good point, Shearer came back with a textbook but valid point also as he was a striker and you need to put the ball in the net. He didnt 'boy' Jenas at all.
Shearer & Lampard bouyed his talking point off for the sake of brevity.
How is Jenas still on TV?
Tbf.... i am a Chelsea fan and i remember this game, jenas isnt wrong it was a bit of a robbery 🤣
Yea I saw it too, agreed with jenas tbh
How a team plays in a final is largely irrelevant, especially in the face of the result. The best teams capitalise on chances presented to them even if they're playing badly. You don't win the game simple by creating chances, it's the scoring that counts.
0:27 Frank Lampard: Yeah.....
Never gets old
From a Spurs fan, I despise Jenas's punditry
Look at his face when Shearer talks, "I know better than you" he's thinking. He's sat in the presence of two Premier League icons and (it pains me to say this) a true Football Icon in the shape of Gary Lineker and he acts like he knows better than all of them and that they're just ball boys.
years ago, during the KD era, there was an open day at the training ground, a few of the players were doing keep ups and tricks, one fan asked Shearer, why carnt you do it, so he took the ball and did some keeps ups, he turned to the fan and said, id do it more if there was a point to it, you just have to put the ball in the back of the net, and im good at that.
Jenas knows the bench of tottenham well
Why is Jenas even in the studio
K .98 I’ve always asked this about him. He’s a f*****g nobody.
@@Anonymous56657 no he's just someone who never accomplished much in his professional career comparing to Shearer and Lampard but he's not a nobody. He is entitled to give his point of view as he works as part of the pundit in the studio. He can't just keep quiet and say nothing about what transpired in the match, maybe he's a fan of the team but let give the man respect for holding his ground and confident despite the others status well as how he was being cordially and respectful to the other greats in the room.
@@Anonymous56657 you’re a nobody lol he played in the Prem
@IRISH LAD There's plenty of terrible boring white pundits, Michael Owen for example. I know you may not be 100% serious but that sort of attitude makes life difficult for black people, because regardless of how good they are it always boils down to 'you got the job because you're black'. For the record I like Jenas, he's eloquent at least
@First Delivery exactly!!
I remember this so vividly, cringes me out still
Shearer can't take it when people disagree with him. He has that moodiness about him.
Can't recall seeing him on BBC since this moment😂
I mean he’s a host on motd but ok
2 world class players....and jermaine jenas
Literally a point that is made 50 times a season but this is somehow singled out. He was also replying to Shearer saying he thought they deserved to win.
That's why I seen him on bein sports 😂
jermaine jenas is SPEECHLESS
Jenas has always been a weird one for me as pundit selection. I mean, fair play to him, he's had a career in football, made his living, can retire. But there are absolutely fucking loads of retired players who's opinions and knowledge is worth more for tuning into.
They like yes men
he ticks a box
Reminds me of Barcelona fans crying about how they lose in the Champions League - "but we had 80% possession!!"
Jenas started the "best team lost" way before Jose, it seems...
I still refuse to believe that Jenas is in his late thirties, and not 15
Granted, he has the mind of a 15 year old
He looks very young
Lampard boyd him off at the end 2 🤣
There's a reason Jenas is a bit part MOTD guest presenter and Frank Lampard is managing one of the world's biggest clubs. Oh and it isn't just playing careers.
Dude Frank lampard isn't a good manager. Very few people think he is good. The only reason he ever was allowed to manage Chelsea is cause he played for Chelsea. And the only reason it looks as though Chelsea are doing well is cause he spent a ton of money on like 10 attackers.
@@redmondlee5174 rip Frank. My guy called it 😂
Jenas is a boy.
Be interesting to see the dynamic when JJ eventually takes over as lead anchor from Gary Lineker on MOTD.
Shearer just wants to punch Jenas so bad😅
Ended up on "the one show" 🤣🤣🤣
Glad to see that Shearer's still the don.
I actually don’t know how Jenas has become a regular pundit smh fml😒
diversityyyyyyyyyyyyy
He’s black
The point is this. No matter how many titles, trophies, goals or caps they may have won, Shearer was saying that Chelsea deserved the victory. Even Chelsea fans would be hard pressed to say that they deserved it, they were under the cosh for large chunks of the game, just as Man Utd didn't deserve to beat Southampton in the League Cup final. Jenas was just calling him on his misplaced view. In football though, you often don't get what you deserve.
csb73 The only point Jenas had was that Spurs dominated possession and kept Chelsea in their own half.
If you knew anything about football you'd know Chelsea are a counter attacking team, so they were happy to sit and soak up the pressure from Spurs and hit on the break, and it clearly worked
Didn’t sound like shearer was saying that at all, sounded like he was saying chelsea took their chances and Tottenham had all the possession but only managed 4 shots on target, remember watching it thinking we had no chance the way we played but we done what the top teams do, find any way to win finals
It doesnt matter who is 'under the cosh,' the one statistic that counts for anything in football is goals, and it doesn't matter how you score them, they are deservedly earned regardless. You wouldn't give Spurs 3 goals here because they 'deserved the win.' Chelsea deserved to win this game as they scored 4 goals to Tottenham's 2 and unless the scoreline was affected by a big refereeing error, Chelsea deserved the win
Lol why didn't Man U deserve to beat Southampton in the final? Such ridiculous statements from this guy was hilarious to read
csb73 ofcourse Chelsea deserved the victory, they won the game, that means they deserved it, they were more clinical, possession doesn't win you games kid, Spurs only had 4 shots on goal and conceded 4 goals, obviously they didn't deserve to win
Lampard saved Jenas here ahaha
Jenas said this exact same garbage a few weeks ago when United beat Arsenal in the cup.
Jenas is easily the best pundit about at the moment, running circles around the dinosaurs as he actually has an idea of the realities of the modern game
You smoke too much spliff pal...
in the tone of that "office episode" when Brent interviews that candidate...: "Jenas... what is that? is that like a philosopher?"
I can't listen to this guy, absolutely gutted when he's on the box
Jenas clearly doesn’t know what it takes to win.
he was in the team that won cup against chelsea 2008 drogba and co lol
Did you manage to put those step ladders away?
What's Germain Jenas Done?
Alan 'Thanks, see you later' Shearer Vs Jarmaine 'Pockets of space' Jenas.
Shouldn’t even be a Pundit, Jenas.
Jenas hasn't improved much since this, surprising that he can still earn a living as a pundit.
Rest assured, if he were white - he most definitely wouldn’t be
Jenas, the won the procession trophy for the tournament. Another one for the cabinet
Jenas does say granted a lot talking about radio also
Anyone would think Jenas used to play for spurs the way he went on....oh wait 😂. Shearer and Jenas weren't exactly best pals at Newcastle by all accounts.
Why? Why was there a rift between the two?
I'm a huge spurs fan but if you lose you lose!! We may have bossed the pitch but it's all about making your chances count!!
2 greats and Jenas
Ironically Jenas has won more finals than Shearer, despite Shearer's condescending words.
Stay off the meth kid 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@VictorLugosi Are you stupid or something? What I said is factually correct.
And that is why he is now on the "one show"
Who is Jermaine Jenas?
I love how now Mourinho is at spurs and has that more pragmatic approach but is getting results, the first thing that is said that spurs got dominated as Alan said “You don’t win football matches with possession”
Not anymore
Aye squandering aggregate leads in the europa, couldn’t happen to a better manager, dinosaur tactics and not the manager he was, not even a tiny bit. Funny he doesn’t call himself the special one anymore
I can see both sides of the argument
Don Jon jenas had a point but the fan side got the better of him there, usually very well composed.. i remember watching it live and cringing at the fact that he sounded quite pathetic which to be fair to him as a pundit is unlike him.
That's because your a moron 🤪
@@laidbare819 Jenas looked at it from a fan perspective, sadly he is a pundit so he should be seeing interim that perspective like shearer so hardly a moron is he
@@PlayupskybIues
Explain why you used the word interim for me concerning this topic, go on I dare ya?
@@laidbare819 it was meant to say from , didn't re-read through I apologise i don't got back and edit like you
"Frank, you'd be upset if you found yourself playing for Tottenham".
If that was Newcastle dominating against chelsea then shearer would no way be saying chelsea deserved to win.And lampard is never gonna say anything against his former club.
Sometimes you don,t open your mouth and be belligerent when you are among the greatest of your profession and argue with them,he came off looking petulant
I agree,he has criticised Newcastle in the past and with good reason as they werent playing good football,bought bad players,management was questionable.What i said though was if Newcastle had played like spurs did and dominated chelsea but still lost then im sure he wouldnt say that chelsea deserved to win. He would give credit where credits due if it was his beloved Newcastle camping chelsea in their own half.
hiddendragon1 they dominated possession not the game
Bouts tine sumones talkn sense round hears
hiddendragon1 facts
Spurs fan here and truth was Chelsea’s game plan worked. Spurs back then dominated possession but had no plan B.
But as we all know possession. Doesn’t win games. Take your result against City yesterday for example
@@72gregster that was classic Mourinho
Happy Anniversary of Jeans making a fool of himself
When did he call him boy?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still on the TV...
Jenas average footballer average still compared to these 2 legends somethings never change