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My question is when was 50 50 not in play? Most of us are either Gen X or Gen Y, by which I mean we don't know of a time when our fathers, if we knew them, was the only one working as if it was WWII.
@@maxpowers111 I mean he doesn't have a normal job. He runs the church hustle and he gets a lot of tax breaks and I think he makes more money and in an easier way than most normal people so I don't think he has the same respect for the dollar as most people
Ignore the fact she’s been having seggs since 15/16. Come in save the day and treat her like a traditional queen and give her whatever she want. Take all the responsibilities in the relationship, but allow her the same authority as you. And if she has another man’s kids raise them as your own. Because she’s the prize. Got it👌😂😂
@@illrizzocgg1009 And the fact they’re saying these things with so much confidence is insane. We now have low quality selections, because the guys before were willing to accept anything. Those days are gone🙅♂️.
This sh*t is getting even more ridiculous. W0men don't want to be responsible / accountable for anything. Kirk Franklin is RICH. and so is Shannon. I can't relate to their conversation.
I would provide even if I was rich. I'm doing the bare utter minimum for women. Absolutely Nothing if possible. It's all about my mentality,not my bank account.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 🕎🤴🏾Ecclesiasticus 13:23 “When a rich man speaketh, every man holdeth his tongue, and, look, what he saith, they extol it to the clouds: but if the poor man speak, they say, What fellow is this? and if he stumble, they will help to overthrow him.”
Never lead with your wallet . I learned that the hard way. Expectations are going to always follow the same path no matter what you have to deal with. My own personal experience. Before being married moving my future ex wife in with me. Im working long hours and taking care of everything to make her comfortable. Soon came health problems for me after we were married then I ended up on job disability and couldn't work anymore. Our relationship spiraled out of control and changed for the worst. It was no real love it proved to be a terrible decision
Providing for a woman=putting her on a pedestal (in her modern day mind) to her it doesn't make you the leader,it makes you her slave, because you are doing all of this for her..........BUT WHAT IS SHE DOING FOR YOU????? WHAT MAKES HER WORTHY OF YOUR PROVISION?? The vast overwhelming majority of women are selfish by default.......they will only respect men who understand the "game" and who are also selfish
Funny, our grandparents never had these conversation's, but stayed married until death did they part; people that think like Kirk, is helping women stay single. Go Passport Bros.
@@its_whatever_dani_d863Not only is that irrelevant to His comment..These Modern Women are not our Grandmothers..so it’s even more irrelevant what our Grandfathers did.
@smurf_n_wesson9064 What saddens me more is we as a people never pause and consider the source. What credibility does Kirk Franklin have among men of distinction who had fathers or a community of men around them? Family, this vertically challenged man should not be considered a threat to you. He's simply following a script that will generate revenue for him-women mostly buy his albums, go to his concerts. TP follow the same script, and so does S. Harvey. Family, recognize the play and move accordingly. Play chess not checkers...
@@africanadonis9859 Trust Me none of these Celebrities Move Me. Him and dudes like Steve Harvey read from a script and disregard the current state of emasculation in the Country
Kirk hasn’t met these women in modern day society. You can pay for everything and they still want more.Modern women constantly want more regardless of how hard you work. Tom Brady for example; he’s a multimillionaire but his Ex-wife wants more time. It’s always something they want , on the other hand men are quite simplistic
But you are a modern man. So why are you complaining about modern women? You guys complaining about women are so weak to me. You don't deserve a traditional woman.
...Even in his era , it's the same thing. The women in his era were getting away with murder, just on a less extreme scale (minus social media, dating apps, exposure etc...). The narrative of a man giving a woman everything, but still end up with pookie was a real/common thing even in his era..he should know better. But obviously he's adopted the cater to women narrative like most churches do. All the marriages that he's witnessed from his era ending in divorce in our era should highlight all reasons as to why you shouldn't do what he's saying you should do as a man. The "Larsa Pippen" effect is real, and common amongst long term marriages now that women are exposed to "more"...they get curious...hypergamy goes super Saiyan. It's no excuse for him not knowing...he is just flat out simp. He's so programmed and he don't even see it, even though it's sitting right on his nose.
As men, it’s our responsibility to set the environment and tone. We are to lead, provide, protect, correct, care for and empower. We absolutely should listen to our partner, reflect and use all available information to make wise decisions. Where I think we’re failing is we are arguing with those who don’t want it. We’re trying to change people who want things their way. Where I disagree with Kirk is, you can’t lead anyone that doesn’t want to be led. You can’t give people cupcakes with no calories (meaning they want all the benefits, but not the drawbacks). Traditional and modern generally doesn’t mix well with the main issue being, there’s going to be a power struggle. Ships crash when everybody’s the captain.
Because of FEMINISM,the era of the Provider Man,Life Long Early Marriage and the Nuclear 2 family is dead. Provider Men are now looks at as Simps by Modern Women to be exploited for for financial gain. Smart men will not provide for Modern American Woman. It's over with.
listen to their opinion, wants, needs, desires but it is up to you as the man to decide what is best and how to deliver on what is best. that is what a leader does.
@@mrbabyhughagain You won’t Lead anyone who doesn’t want to be led, nor is it My job to make someone want to follow. I’m not about to pretend I’m even remotely obligated to Lead these Women who aren’t our Parents or Grandparents anywhere honestly..unless they’re looking to Follow my program.
A man can say anything on social media but the reality is different. My man is not taking anything that I say into consideration cause he does not have the final say. And no man is correcting me, so that really goes without saying.
@@shayemoore coming from a safe, not a hate space, I know the word “correct” is triggering to most women, but it’s not about a man having control (for most of us). Let me give you some context in real world examples. I’m a retired military officer. Have also worked as a cop. Say we are out having a good time. I see something is about to go south and say “we need to leave.” You say “no, I’m having a good time.” Yet I clearly see the outline of a semiautomatic weapon in the waistband of two people. I’m trying to discretely get you to leave so that I can keep you safe, and call the police. You won’t leave. What you’re saying is nobody can tell you what to do and you’re gonna do whatever you wanna do. That mindset right there can cost you and me our lives. Or say you drive your car until gas is on zero and get gas after dark. I continually tell you to keep your phone charged and gas in the car. Yet you do the opposite and now you’re stranded somewhere with no gas and nobody can reach you. We find your car and our use, but never find you alive. Bottom line, as a man, I can’t fully protect you if I can’t correct you. As a leader, I would never take responsibility or accountability of someone without being granted the authority. Hopefully you get where I’m coming from.
Listen, we need to stop having this conversation. Men will always speak from their financial position. So it’s a ridiculous question to ask a rich man, and a crazy question to ask an average man.
💯💯💯 back in the day grandma worked outside the house or kept children for the other working women. Momma and Daddy works 8-12 hours per day. And both had skills for a side hustle.
@@brandimonique5632most relationships both pay for things in the family that’s maturity. Most couples aren’t millionaires! if she isn’t a traditional wife and has a job she’s paying for something. Woman aren’t children
The era of the traditional Provider is officially dead and FEMINISM killed it. Only Stupid Simps are not aware of this. I'm doing THE BARE UTTER MINIMUM WHEN DEALING WITH WOMEN. AND NO COHABITATION.
This is why the black community is failing. Kirk is doing what a lot of preachers are doing. Giving women excuses and helping them to ignore accountability.
@@lavark9746 it depends on what kind of simp we are talking about. Example a regular 9/5 simp vs a drug dealer simp and we all know the drug dealer simp would get the most BW and probably our girlfriends or wives behind our backs it happens all of the time. Real is real a drug dealer gave my bro wife HIV and he don't have it. Wolves in sheep's clothing are worse than the devil
They keep getting things misconstrued. Men and women are not equal. But we should both be equally respected and valued according to what we bring to the relationship.
@@jamesknight3992You are an example of a man raised by a single woman. You sound like a weak, moist, broke, feminine man. You don't deserve a traditional woman. You're not a traditional man.
We men today have been led astray by the past generation of "MEN" SMH.... I am grateful I came across this brother to teach us how we men should conduct ourselves.
I think that society changed for everyone except for men. We're still governed by rules that were made generations before us while everyone is living in 2023.
Ok so i pay for everything. When the relationship ends, I get to keep everything right? The house, the cars, all of the money in the accounts? Women leaving with nothing when the relationship is over also old school. To quote Jay - z "Now what I look like? Givin' a chick half my trap Like she wrote half my raps, yeah, I'm havin' that"
Most BW I know used their man or husband and left with a pookie ex boyfriend work husband's friends with benefits. Most BM don't even know their relationship is faker than the weave on her head
Don't listen to no one who haven't dated in the last 5 years. My grandmother just told me I can't get a relationship because I'm doing something wrong. She may be right. I'm too nice, too supportive, too protective, and too dependable.
Kirk Franklin is the last person I would take advice from anyways!! he reminds me of those preachers in my hood, who says everything that black women want to hear, but still try to incorporate the Bible and his teachings there are a lot of things in the Bible that women do not want to hear and preachers like him never preach about those things… he wants to maintain a female audience/congregation and keep these delusional baby mamas out here Filled with false hope
“I’m old school” is from a old school time when women couldn’t/wouldn’t/shouldn’t have worked. These women are going to work and making sure they rub their accolades and money in men’s faces . And if I pay all the bills why would I not have all the say? Why would I share authority but I can’t share bills? Kirk Franklin ain’t know his real daddy, he ain’t got no good frame of reference his mother was a scandalous person to say the least. I’m tired of these typa dudes having an input when their whole lives have been forced into survival and overcompensating for what they lacked coming up . Thank god for my reliable father .
Say it again. You are correct. I became a lawyer at 22. So, I had money. And instead of getting a car or something for my graduation present, my parent bought me Microsoft stock for passing the bar, which I still have TODAY. So you know how much money that is. I’ve been a lawyer now for 28 years at the same place, and became a partner in 2008. My father from when I was young without money, told me to NEVER pay for a first date. He told me to NEVER just offer money out. My father’s explanation to me was, “tell the girl you don’t have to pay her to get to know her. What is she paying you to get to know you? That’s not good business, son. Getting to know someone is FREE!” Guess what? I’ve never paid for a first date. I’ve never bought a girl a drink at the club/bar. You want to get to know me, sit down and talk. Talking is free. You get hungry or thirsty during the conversation, order something for yourself and continue our conversation. It’s really that simple
I already have my own, so if a woman wants to come in my world then I will continue to pay for my expenses that I have been paying for. She will fall under my responsibility at that point.
Women have been going on these "Foodie 🍽 Calls" since the beginning of time. Modern Women are becoming increasingly bold & are asking men to take them to ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ restaurants on the 1st date & then order a second meal for "lunch tomorrow" the whole time she's taking it home to split between her 2 kids and her baby daddy.
So don’t date women like that. Date women who don’t demand so much before they get to know you.. you know why you guys can’t do that? Because you all want Instagram baddies… why don’t you all want regular everyday women..
Almost 2024 and soo much has changed. I don’t understand how we have moved to new traditions and women still want to hold on to the traditions that benefit them. We are in a place where women and men can work together and build some amazing ish!
Every woman would be grateful for a man to “step up” ( smh) and save her from her bad choices, and allow her not to pay 50% of the nice place we stay in because of her contribution. ( in the good school system, with the lower crime rate , car jacking & theft) She could always pay 100% of the apartment she’s renting though. No pressure, make a decision.. put our money together and live like the Jeffersons or don’t contribute and we live like good times. Make a decision..
Let's not give women a chance to renege on a decision they already made long ago. Let women continue to be strong and independent and pay 100% of their own bills. They have earned it. Modern Women don't even deserve 50/50......and certainly not a provider. NO WAY.
Once i got back to stop putting women on the pedestal and stopped trynna win women over and i knew my worth. I became more confident n who i am and i stopped worrying if they would like me for me or not
Why do yall act like it’s the end of the world for a woman when her husband dies/injured? Have yall heard of life insurance policies, (my husband even has a policy in case he gets hurt at work he still gets paid) savings, equity in the home yall lived in to sale and downsize if needed be. That leaves a wife with a lot of cash to move forward with her life.
@Mrs.704 You'll be surprised by how many people do not have simple things as insurance and whatever debts a husband has, You'll be responsible and responsible for his taxes... When it's all said and done, you'll be lucky to have anything left.
Some couples are married but separate if you are like that then maybe you need insurance. My hubby and I don’t have separate accounts I can access everything, retirement & 401k passes to me after death. This is only a problem for married couples who still low key wanna be single. (I said what I said 🤷🏽♀️).
Yes i will pay for EVERYTHING, but all that sht will be in my NAME! That way a court cant give her a damn thing once she decides to leave for some bullsht reason like what most women do! I'll have a broken heart but at least I still have everything I worked hard for!!
So what Kirk is saying is what has kept men subservient for the last couple generations. She has to put in NOTHING but has an equal say?? Women don't even behave like that with their friends. Kirk setting someone up to get used.
I never seen my parents as equals they were the bar i had to meet and overcome. Like they told me you ain't got to worry about the game, if you flip the table😊😂
he just catering to his congregation and followers. we all know what its about. can talk the real truth on social media these days or youll get canceled.
It comes down to style of leadership. There are about 7 types maybe more. But you as a man have to find the one that suits you best and have a partner that is comfortable with that style. But the question as to whether the man should lead is not up for debate because both parties have always agreed to it since the beginning of time.
People keep saying “ I’m old school “ but yet only implying for men to be old school and traditional while the woman can be out on the streets and run wild lol
@@Lordamraphel yea cuz u do t want to do the work but want all the benefits. Don’t want to raise the kids just want to screw to get them. Don’t want to emotionally be available for your wife just have her there and around like a piece of art !
☮️☮️☮️…I’m pro-equality. I think people end up in these destructive situations bc they don’t take the time to know people. I try to only enter committed relationships when I feel like you are my companion. If we can’t be companions we shouldn’t be discussing finances. If we can’t be companions we shouldn’t be consummating anything.
8:39 dating for me is getting know somebody, it should not be that you gonna get in to a relationship, hook up to sleep nor marriage. Over time during dating, how it goes will determine the direction. AND, there is no such thing as "in a relationship", it is STILL DATING. You decide to date each other exclusively, fine no problem. But neither own the other and far too many people have expectations of the other and THAT is what cause so much issues prior to marriage.
"men can't go back sexually, and women can't go back in lifestyle" I don't know who said that, but it was a long time ago and it always resonated with me even to this day.
I wonder what would KF response would be if he was a normal guy working a 9-5 living pay check to pay check like most Americans, and living in an apartment in Florida.
6:30 my first car is a Audi and bruh, I CAN NOT GO BELOW THAT!! Even if a Honda today cost more than the Audi did when I bought it, that is not the same thing.
If women were "old school" they'd be still also cooking and cleaning and taking care or their man but they are up to date and not doing those things which is cool with me. Men need to update their software
It’s sad a a religious man twists himself into a pretzel to appease women. Very few black families in years past had the resources to allow the woman to not have to contribute to the household.
5:25 yes, you can make situations light hearted and let them laugh and it engages their emotions and it codes them to like you. But in THIS SITUATION, that laugh will be to LAUGH AT YOU and not with you. The world is a different place now Kirk!!! A girl paid a bill & LEFT THE DATE because he refused to add cheese to his burger, she saw him as CHEAP!!
Men should pay for everything in a marriage...BUT...a good wife would not take advantage of you. A good wife would only want you to pay for those things that benefit the family. Not pay for an extravagant lifestyle.
Depends does the woman have a job of her own in the marriage? I can only understand this if she in the role of a traditional wife . If not what is your wife using her money for if you pay for “everything “ . She’s gotta pay for something maybe family vacations or kids college
Both sides should be in oder with each other no fussing no fighting no jealous behavior no woman shouldn't be looking for happiness in another man when she married she would be focused on what she got not what ever other woman has build a strong mind that will keep you in line to focused on the tasks at hand you want more work for it a lazy hand will not feed you if you have big dreams make big moves believe in what you can do ambition is the key to success never sell no soul work for it if a woman can't love you now when u have no money why should she get to be with you when you get money if she with you because you got money she do not love you she only love what you can but her they say to a woman is doing everything for them but it never said noting about that woman staying faithful to you
I feel like the man should choose where he wants to take you on a date and you can accepted or declined since he is the one asking you on the date. I feel like he should be the one to decide where he wants to take you.
How about..........NO MORE FREE MEALS,EVER????........I will take a woman to the CHEAPEST BAR IN TOWN THAT DOESN'T EVEN SERVE FOOD. LoL 🤣🤣......and I'm only paying for 2 rounds MAXIMUM. I'm selfish and stingy with women. It's time for men to stop being Simps and putting women on pedistals.
Kirk Franklin is out here giving bad bad bad advice. This man is so out of touch with how the real modern world words now. Shannon was 1000% percent on point and correct.
@@mob4ever you contradicted yourself. You first disqualified Anton because he’s been married for 20 years. Than you champion Kirk Franklin because he’s been married longer.
@jondough9315 No I didn't. You said don't listen to Kirk yet he has been married longer. See you men need a lot of guidance. You come to the internet and look for a leader who you don't know to give you advice. Anton has lied his way to where he is. I first watched him when he wasn't popular. This is a character he's playing just like Charleston White.
The way you treat her when you first meet her is the way she will expect to be treated for then on. If you lead with your wallet she gonna already think you got it like that and even if you do your setting yourself up to get played from jump. Women already putting guys in their phone as free food why would you go into the situation putting yourself in that position to get finessed ? NEVER DO THIS . If she gotta problem with cheap date then she can go find a sucka frl cause at the end of the day she has to earn those type of dates and if she is not trying to contribute to getting to know you and always wants to be on the receiving end of everything then she need to go .
All the broken men still trying to seek validation from “mommy” who emasculated, neglected, verbally abused, tortured, or beaten them in their adolescence speak this way Your mother will be your first heartbreak, gentlemen (the level of evil they possess when damaged will continue life times)
The one thing I got from Kirk, “ IT DOESN’T MAKE THEM WRONG, IT MAKES THEM NOT YOU”. Maybe if we started thinking like that, then maybe we can get past these repeating talking points. Either don’t entertain, don’t engage, or take the meat and spit out the bones. Just go on with YOUR life and do things the way YOU see fit. It’s really not that hard.
Yes blending families is harder now when you tryin to be a leading father cause for 1 example it's to much hate from the step child's family an they know what they be doing tryin to continue to confuse the child like if a man holding it down the child's mother not going no where but its just had become to much to deal with I gave that field up all power to guys that gets into that field an tryin to make it but to me you just wind up going backwards an lost out on tons of money in the end
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Women always say they don’t want a 50/50 relationship. But if a divorce happens now all of a sudden 50/50 is ok
Women don't even deserve a 50/50 relationship with a man........ women deserve to pay 100% of their own bills and live by themselves.
More like 80/20.
They take 80.. The children takes 20..
It has a manual left with 0.
No marriage for me, I'm happily single.
My question is when was 50 50 not in play? Most of us are either Gen X or Gen Y, by which I mean we don't know of a time when our fathers, if we knew them, was the only one working as if it was WWII.
@@T.H.E.O.R.Y.They think that’s how it was back in the day 😅but Women also think every woman was getting beaten when the man only worked
They will happily take a 100%.
Its real easy to pay for everything when your get all those Jesus Checks
Jajaja
What do you mean?
They never say would they do that if they was a 9-5 guy like most guys are
@@maxpowers111 I mean he doesn't have a normal job. He runs the church hustle and he gets a lot of tax breaks and I think he makes more money and in an easier way than most normal people so I don't think he has the same respect for the dollar as most people
@@moneyman24258Because they feel 9-5 people are beneath them, more than likely.
Ignore the fact she’s been having seggs since 15/16. Come in save the day and treat her like a traditional queen and give her whatever she want. Take all the responsibilities in the relationship, but allow her the same authority as you. And if she has another man’s kids raise them as your own. Because she’s the prize. Got it👌😂😂
💯 facts fools like kirk are the reason things have gotten this bad.
@@illrizzocgg1009 And the fact they’re saying these things with so much confidence is insane. We now have low quality selections, because the guys before were willing to accept anything. Those days are gone🙅♂️.
What kind of women are you dating that have been having sex since 15/16… omg
15-16. Checkmate.
This sh*t is getting even more ridiculous. W0men don't want to be responsible / accountable for anything. Kirk Franklin is RICH. and so is Shannon. I can't relate to their conversation.
Don't date shut the hell up I'm tired off these cry babies men got dam enough already go get your passport get a cheap hoe
I would provide even if I was rich. I'm doing the bare utter minimum for women. Absolutely Nothing if possible. It's all about my mentality,not my bank account.
I think
An even bigger problem
With Franklin is he is of the black church. Jus another overcompensating trauma hustler.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 🕎🤴🏾Ecclesiasticus 13:23
“When a rich man speaketh, every man holdeth his tongue, and, look, what he saith, they extol it to the clouds: but if the poor man speak, they say, What fellow is this? and if he stumble, they will help to overthrow him.”
Never lead with your wallet . I learned that the hard way. Expectations are going to always follow the same path no matter what you have to deal with. My own personal experience. Before being married moving my future ex wife in with me. Im working long hours and taking care of everything to make her comfortable. Soon came health problems for me after we were married then I ended up on job disability and couldn't work anymore. Our relationship spiraled out of control and changed for the worst. It was no real love it proved to be a terrible decision
Providing for a woman=putting her on a pedestal (in her modern day mind) to her it doesn't make you the leader,it makes you her slave, because you are doing all of this for her..........BUT WHAT IS SHE DOING FOR YOU????? WHAT MAKES HER WORTHY OF YOUR PROVISION?? The vast overwhelming majority of women are selfish by default.......they will only respect men who understand the "game" and who are also selfish
When the money stops coming in the door the love goes right out of the window.
You could have been married 10 times if you get sick 8 of those wives leaving
You sucka for love Beta Simpsons will never win
If a hyena would let work self into the ground y
@@RatchetCoon what love????? LoL 😂😂
Funny, our grandparents never had these conversation's, but stayed married until death did they part; people that think like Kirk, is helping women stay single. Go Passport Bros.
My grandpa paid for most of everything… both of them… but go off
@@its_whatever_dani_d863Not only is that irrelevant to His comment..These Modern Women are not our Grandmothers..so it’s even more irrelevant what our Grandfathers did.
@smurf_n_wesson9064
What saddens me more is we as a people never pause and consider the source. What credibility does Kirk Franklin have among men of distinction who had fathers or a community of men around them? Family, this vertically challenged man should not be considered a threat to you. He's simply following a script that will generate revenue for him-women mostly buy his albums, go to his concerts. TP follow the same script, and so does S. Harvey. Family, recognize the play and move accordingly. Play chess not checkers...
@@africanadonis9859 Trust Me none of these Celebrities Move Me. Him and dudes like Steve Harvey read from a script and disregard the current state of emasculation in the Country
The women who get it gets married, The women who don't stay single and become baby mommas, SIMPLE
Kirk hasn’t met these women in modern day society. You can pay for everything and they still want more.Modern women constantly want more regardless of how hard you work. Tom Brady for example; he’s a multimillionaire but his Ex-wife wants more time. It’s always something they want , on the other hand men are quite simplistic
Your first sentence yep exactly.
But you are a modern man. So why are you complaining about modern women? You guys complaining about women are so weak to me. You don't deserve a traditional woman.
Yeah, I give bro a pass. He's been married 20+ years. He doesn't know where modern women are
It's best to do the bare utter minimum for women. They will respect you more when you are selfish.........just like they are.
...Even in his era , it's the same thing. The women in his era were getting away with murder, just on a less extreme scale (minus social media, dating apps, exposure etc...). The narrative of a man giving a woman everything, but still end up with pookie was a real/common thing even in his era..he should know better. But obviously he's adopted the cater to women narrative like most churches do. All the marriages that he's witnessed from his era ending in divorce in our era should highlight all reasons as to why you shouldn't do what he's saying you should do as a man. The "Larsa Pippen" effect is real, and common amongst long term marriages now that women are exposed to "more"...they get curious...hypergamy goes super Saiyan. It's no excuse for him not knowing...he is just flat out simp. He's so programmed and he don't even see it, even though it's sitting right on his nose.
As men, it’s our responsibility to set the environment and tone. We are to lead, provide, protect, correct, care for and empower. We absolutely should listen to our partner, reflect and use all available information to make wise decisions. Where I think we’re failing is we are arguing with those who don’t want it. We’re trying to change people who want things their way. Where I disagree with Kirk is, you can’t lead anyone that doesn’t want to be led. You can’t give people cupcakes with no calories (meaning they want all the benefits, but not the drawbacks). Traditional and modern generally doesn’t mix well with the main issue being, there’s going to be a power struggle. Ships crash when everybody’s the captain.
Because of FEMINISM,the era of the Provider Man,Life Long Early Marriage and the Nuclear 2 family is dead. Provider Men are now looks at as Simps by Modern Women to be exploited for for financial gain. Smart men will not provide for Modern American Woman. It's over with.
listen to their opinion, wants, needs, desires but it is up to you as the man to decide what is best and how to deliver on what is best. that is what a leader does.
@@mrbabyhughagain You won’t Lead anyone who doesn’t want to be led, nor is it My job to make someone want to follow. I’m not about to pretend I’m even remotely obligated to Lead these Women who aren’t our Parents or Grandparents anywhere honestly..unless they’re looking to Follow my program.
A man can say anything on social media but the reality is different. My man is not taking anything that I say into consideration cause he does not have the final say. And no man is correcting me, so that really goes without saying.
@@shayemoore coming from a safe, not a hate space, I know the word “correct” is triggering to most women, but it’s not about a man having control (for most of us). Let me give you some context in real world examples. I’m a retired military officer. Have also worked as a cop. Say we are out having a good time. I see something is about to go south and say “we need to leave.” You say “no, I’m having a good time.” Yet I clearly see the outline of a semiautomatic weapon in the waistband of two people. I’m trying to discretely get you to leave so that I can keep you safe, and call the police. You won’t leave. What you’re saying is nobody can tell you what to do and you’re gonna do whatever you wanna do. That mindset right there can cost you and me our lives. Or say you drive your car until gas is on zero and get gas after dark. I continually tell you to keep your phone charged and gas in the car. Yet you do the opposite and now you’re stranded somewhere with no gas and nobody can reach you. We find your car and our use, but never find you alive. Bottom line, as a man, I can’t fully protect you if I can’t correct you. As a leader, I would never take responsibility or accountability of someone without being granted the authority. Hopefully you get where I’m coming from.
Kirk's been out of the game since '96. These streets would eat him alive!
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Yes, he'll be starting over from scratch, trying to build himself back up.😂😂😂
Oh... he'd get played so smooth with his 5'5 ass.
Nothing but facts 😂
He would be smoking rocks 🪨 😂😂
The way Shannon said "NAH ain't nobody looking at NO feet..."
vs
... Kirk saying "I"M looking at FEET..."😂😂😂😂
Listen, we need to stop having this conversation. Men will always speak from their financial position. So it’s a ridiculous question to ask a rich man, and a crazy question to ask an average man.
I would NEVER provide for a Modern Woman........even if I was rich.
I couldn't have said it better myself wise words from a wise man
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You make a lot of sense!
In this day and age, a household needs the income from both husband and wife, to sustain itself and prosper.
💯💯💯 back in the day grandma worked outside the house or kept children for the other working women. Momma and Daddy works 8-12 hours per day. And both had skills for a side hustle.
Thats easy for him to say now that he's a millionaire, I wonder if you asked Kirk Franklin when he was homeless if he would have felt the same way????
As your relationships mature so will your perspectives.
@@brandimonique5632most relationships both pay for things in the family that’s maturity. Most couples aren’t millionaires! if she isn’t a traditional wife and has a job she’s paying for something. Woman aren’t children
Don't date get your passport and leave us black women alone
The era of the traditional Provider is officially dead and FEMINISM killed it. Only Stupid Simps are not aware of this. I'm doing THE BARE UTTER MINIMUM WHEN DEALING WITH WOMEN. AND NO COHABITATION.
@@brandimonique5632 most mature couples the women pay bills.
This is why the black community is failing. Kirk is doing what a lot of preachers are doing. Giving women excuses and helping them to ignore accountability.
If the devil can get more women than Jesus what chance do a good man have against a wolf in sheep's clothed women
💯 facts
These Beta Simpsons will never win
@turahngordon you are 1000% correct!!! 👍
@@lavark9746 it depends on what kind of simp we are talking about. Example a regular 9/5 simp vs a drug dealer simp and we all know the drug dealer simp would get the most BW and probably our girlfriends or wives behind our backs it happens all of the time. Real is real a drug dealer gave my bro wife HIV and he don't have it. Wolves in sheep's clothing are worse than the devil
Most women are single, and are single mothers...I'm supposed to pay 100% for another woman with another man's child in the picture. 😂😂
They keep getting things misconstrued. Men and women are not equal. But we should both be equally respected and valued according to what we bring to the relationship.
Thank you Anton. Thank you. I do not understand why it is so easy for men such as this to throw us men under the bus?
This is an example of a man raised by a single mother.
@@jamesknight3992You are an example of a man raised by a single woman. You sound like a weak, moist, broke, feminine man. You don't deserve a traditional woman. You're not a traditional man.
@jamesknight3992 well damn...... so true.
That's his customer base
Bro this man married a baby momma the programming needs to stop because wen the roles are reversed its different
We see why the cycle never end because of simps like Kirk Franklin giving women options to act outside of their purpose.
We men today have been led astray by the past generation of "MEN" SMH.... I am grateful I came across this brother to teach us how we men should conduct ourselves.
I think that society changed for everyone except for men. We're still governed by rules that were made generations before us while everyone is living in 2023.
Ok so i pay for everything. When the relationship ends, I get to keep everything right? The house, the cars, all of the money in the accounts? Women leaving with nothing when the relationship is over also old school.
To quote Jay - z
"Now what I look like? Givin' a chick half my trap
Like she wrote half my raps, yeah, I'm havin' that"
Most BW I know used their man or husband and left with a pookie ex boyfriend work husband's friends with benefits. Most BM don't even know their relationship is faker than the weave on her head
Don't listen to no one who haven't dated in the last 5 years. My grandmother just told me I can't get a relationship because I'm doing something wrong. She may be right. I'm too nice, too supportive, too protective, and too dependable.
Stop looking for a relationship.
Overseas
Kirk Franklin is the last person I would take advice from anyways!! he reminds me of those preachers in my hood, who says everything that black women want to hear, but still try to incorporate the Bible and his teachings there are a lot of things in the Bible that women do not want to hear and preachers like him never preach about those things… he wants to maintain a female audience/congregation and keep these delusional baby mamas out here Filled with false hope
Real talk 💯🎯
@freddyrocksteady420 why “Black women” ? Nobody said a race sir. Jesus
“I’m old school” is from a old school time when women couldn’t/wouldn’t/shouldn’t have worked. These women are going to work and making sure they rub their accolades and money in men’s faces .
And if I pay all the bills why would I not have all the say? Why would I share authority but I can’t share bills?
Kirk Franklin ain’t know his real daddy, he ain’t got no good frame of reference his mother was a scandalous person to say the least. I’m tired of these typa dudes having an input when their whole lives have been forced into survival and overcompensating for what they lacked coming up . Thank god for my reliable father .
Say it again. You are correct.
I became a lawyer at 22. So, I had money. And instead of getting a car or something for my graduation present, my parent bought me Microsoft stock for passing the bar, which I still have TODAY. So you know how much money that is. I’ve been a lawyer now for 28 years at the same place, and became a partner in 2008.
My father from when I was young without money, told me to NEVER pay for a first date. He told me to NEVER just offer money out. My father’s explanation to me was, “tell the girl you don’t have to pay her to get to know her. What is she paying you to get to know you? That’s not good business, son. Getting to know someone is FREE!”
Guess what? I’ve never paid for a first date. I’ve never bought a girl a drink at the club/bar. You want to get to know me, sit down and talk. Talking is free. You get hungry or thirsty during the conversation, order something for yourself and continue our conversation. It’s really that simple
What a goofy. I thought prostitution was illegal..😂😂
Whenever anybody asks "Well what's wrong with that?", you know you're in for an annoying debate.
I already have my own, so if a woman wants to come in my world then I will continue to pay for my expenses that I have been paying for. She will fall under my responsibility at that point.
Women have been going on these "Foodie 🍽 Calls" since the beginning of time. Modern Women are becoming increasingly bold & are asking men to take them to ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ restaurants on the 1st date & then order a second meal for "lunch tomorrow" the whole time she's taking it home to split between her 2 kids and her baby daddy.
You can thank Simps who put the 📦 on a pedistal for that non-sense. NO MORE FREE MEALS.
So don’t date women like that. Date women who don’t demand so much before they get to know you.. you know why you guys can’t do that? Because you all want Instagram baddies… why don’t you all want regular everyday women..
Without reciprocation relationships are doomed to fail.
Almost 2024 and soo much has changed. I don’t understand how we have moved to new traditions and women still want to hold on to the traditions that benefit them. We are in a place where women and men can work together and build some amazing ish!
Bro you took the words outta my mouf. Big 📠
Every woman would be grateful for a man to “step up” ( smh) and save her from her bad choices, and allow her not to pay 50% of the nice place we stay in because of her contribution. ( in the good school system, with the lower crime rate , car jacking & theft)
She could always pay 100% of the apartment she’s renting though. No pressure, make a decision.. put our money together and live like the Jeffersons or don’t contribute and we live like good times. Make a decision..
There's a young person reading this and wondering "Who tf are the Jeffersons?" and why is it bad if it's "Good Times"?
Let's not give women a chance to renege on a decision they already made long ago. Let women continue to be strong and independent and pay 100% of their own bills. They have earned it. Modern Women don't even deserve 50/50......and certainly not a provider. NO WAY.
Facts @@JonThompson-bt8rw
More like Pay 100% on your own or Contribute to the household. Them Paying Her Bills days died with Her ability to Work
@@ibervillezee9142
Dang 😂
I didn’t think about that
I do what's best for my household. Glad my grandfather taught me how to think for myself
Once i got back to stop putting women on the pedestal and stopped trynna win women over and i knew my worth. I became more confident n who i am and i stopped worrying if they would like me for me or not
His net-worth is 8.5 million, so it’s easy for him to say stuff like that.
My husband pays for EVERYTHING….but he bought me a food truck so I work for us. So it’s not 50/50 but I contribute 🤷🏽♀️
Yes, as you should, because if something happens to your husband, then what..🤷🏾♂️
Girl I salute you! These men mad
Why do yall act like it’s the end of the world for a woman when her husband dies/injured? Have yall heard of life insurance policies, (my husband even has a policy in case he gets hurt at work he still gets paid) savings, equity in the home yall lived in to sale and downsize if needed be. That leaves a wife with a lot of cash to move forward with her life.
@Mrs.704 You'll be surprised by how many people do not have simple things as insurance and whatever debts a husband has, You'll be responsible and responsible for his taxes... When it's all said and done, you'll be lucky to have anything left.
Some couples are married but separate if you are like that then maybe you need insurance. My hubby and I don’t have separate accounts I can access everything, retirement & 401k passes to me after death. This is only a problem for married couples who still low key wanna be single. (I said what I said 🤷🏽♀️).
Yes i will pay for EVERYTHING, but all that sht will be in my NAME! That way a court cant give her a damn thing once she decides to leave for some bullsht reason like what most women do! I'll have a broken heart but at least I still have everything I worked hard for!!
The only game that he can give up is getting the 504c to get money from the people
So what Kirk is saying is what has kept men subservient for the last couple generations. She has to put in NOTHING but has an equal say?? Women don't even behave like that with their friends. Kirk setting someone up to get used.
Very good point…”too many ppl are having children out of wedlock”……
I never seen my parents as equals they were the bar i had to meet and overcome. Like they told me you ain't got to worry about the game, if you flip the table😊😂
“How you start off is how you gotta continue” is one of the b real thing said.
Only channel I watch just about every day .. Daniels is solid! Not giving anyone a pass male or female.
You must be broke if you watch every day
You’d figure he’ll have some sort of bacc bone seeing that his mom lied to him for his entire life. Some men are just naturally simps I guess.
he just catering to his congregation and followers. we all know what its about. can talk the real truth on social media these days or youll get canceled.
@@sterlingkayon84 I say he’s just a natural simp. It’s in his DNA.
It comes down to style of leadership. There are about 7 types maybe more. But you as a man have to find the one that suits you best and have a partner that is comfortable with that style. But the question as to whether the man should lead is not up for debate because both parties have always agreed to it since the beginning of time.
This old school terminology is horrible it can be used in so many outlets. Great commentary Anton
😂😂 I'm with Shannon on this one
No no no we dont need OG like this. We need to look to REAL men that have done it and go from there. Keep up the good work Anton.
People keep saying “ I’m old school “ but yet only implying for men to be old school and traditional while the woman can be out on the streets and run wild lol
Gynocentric
YOU CAN'T TAKE MY JOY DEVIL!😂shout out to Kirk
Shout out to Anton speak in real facts and not sugarcoating shit we gonna leave it at that ‼️
Fellas protect your sanity your seed and your wallet in these current times!!
As if anybody is looking for a man to be with in this current time 😂
@@joyceg7859 National statistics of 60% of men choosing to remain single say the same thing. we're better off alone.
@@Lordamraphel yea cuz u do t want to do the work but want all the benefits. Don’t want to raise the kids just want to screw to get them. Don’t want to emotionally be available for your wife just have her there and around like a piece of art !
☮️☮️☮️…I’m pro-equality. I think people end up in these destructive situations bc they don’t take the time to know people. I try to only enter committed relationships when I feel like you are my companion. If we can’t be companions we shouldn’t be discussing finances. If we can’t be companions we shouldn’t be consummating anything.
Kirk is so goofy 😂😂
Love it when someone says something crazy and you look at the screen at us LMAO! @0:22
8:39 dating for me is getting know somebody, it should not be that you gonna get in to a relationship, hook up to sleep nor marriage. Over time during dating, how it goes will determine the direction. AND, there is no such thing as "in a relationship", it is STILL DATING. You decide to date each other exclusively, fine no problem. But neither own the other and far too many people have expectations of the other and THAT is what cause so much issues prior to marriage.
Kirk Is out his GOT DAMN MIND!!!!
"men can't go back sexually, and women can't go back in lifestyle" I don't know who said that, but it was a long time ago and it always resonated with me even to this day.
Chris Rock
I wonder what would KF response would be if he was a normal guy working a 9-5 living pay check to pay check like most Americans, and living in an apartment in Florida.
6:30 my first car is a Audi and bruh, I CAN NOT GO BELOW THAT!! Even if a Honda today cost more than the Audi did when I bought it, that is not the same thing.
Amen!! bro bro my dad taught me as a child always know your worth and never put a woman on a pedestal
If women were "old school" they'd be still also cooking and cleaning and taking care or their man but they are up to date and not doing those things which is cool with me. Men need to update their software
"cooking and cleaning and taking care or their man with a smile on their face" and not refer it to as slavery
Here’s the thing. She wants the man to be traditional meaning paying for dates etc. however, she not being traditional.
@@theboss2077 🎯🎯🎯🎯
I never believed in trying to impress anyone. That is BS.
When u got money it depends on what they want But the man is the provider
Am i mean to say that Kirk Franklin is talking that Will Smith Simp Talk...no disrespect.
When simping and the sunking place collide😮
Its always older men teaching young men to crash out for a woman
Facts with their catch phrase “happy wife happy life”. Then come to find out they are all alcoholics
Pushover, happy wife happy life came from prior generations of gynocracy
Even uncle was like ooo Nooo 🤣!!!
It’s sad a a religious man twists himself into a pretzel to appease women. Very few black families in years past had the resources to allow the woman to not have to contribute to the household.
5:25 yes, you can make situations light hearted and let them laugh and it engages their emotions and it codes them to like you. But in THIS SITUATION, that laugh will be to LAUGH AT YOU and not with you. The world is a different place now Kirk!!! A girl paid a bill & LEFT THE DATE because he refused to add cheese to his burger, she saw him as CHEAP!!
That’s a stupid answer time has changed we’re not in 1950 !
When Anton looks into the Camera 0:24
LMMFAO 🤣
I busted out laughing🤣
Kirk is a proud international simp 😂😂😂
These dudes can pay a whole family salary. The average Joe can’t relate
Men should pay for everything in a marriage...BUT...a good wife would not take advantage of you. A good wife would only want you to pay for those things that benefit the family. Not pay for an extravagant lifestyle.
Are you married?
Depends does the woman have a job of her own in the marriage? I can only understand this if she in the role of a traditional wife . If not what is your wife using her money for if you pay for “everything “ . She’s gotta pay for something maybe family vacations or kids college
Those women haven't been created yet!
@@maxpowers111 No. Because I couldn't find a good wife. I should've been a passport bro when I was younger.
@@demond1818 Exactly. 100%
Nice hearing these fools. Go ahead and try that right now today
LOL yo your expressions crack me up man, had me hollerin when you watch the adam 22 & saint podcast.
Both sides should be in oder with each other no fussing no fighting no jealous behavior no woman shouldn't be looking for happiness in another man when she married she would be focused on what she got not what ever other woman has build a strong mind that will keep you in line to focused on the tasks at hand you want more work for it a lazy hand will not feed you if you have big dreams make big moves believe in what you can do ambition is the key to success never sell no soul work for it if a woman can't love you now when u have no money why should she get to be with you when you get money if she with you because you got money she do not love you she only love what you can but her they say to a woman is doing everything for them but it never said noting about that woman staying faithful to you
I feel like the man should choose where he wants to take you on a date and you can accepted or declined since he is the one asking you on the date. I feel like he should be the one to decide where he wants to take you.
I wholeheartedly agree. The man should lead. Since we in modern times, a lot of women don’t want a man to lead
How about..........NO MORE FREE MEALS,EVER????........I will take a woman to the CHEAPEST BAR IN TOWN THAT DOESN'T EVEN SERVE FOOD. LoL 🤣🤣......and I'm only paying for 2 rounds MAXIMUM. I'm selfish and stingy with women. It's time for men to stop being Simps and putting women on pedistals.
I am taking you out to jack in the box .( I bet you won't reply )
I feel you. Overall I would agree. My girlfriend started in aBMW. Now my wife she drives a mitsubishi. I bought both
Homie leaned in and loudly whispered "I'm looking at feet... sips water slowly... I'm looking at feeeeetttt..." LOL
Kirk Franklin is out here giving bad bad bad advice. This man is so out of touch with how the real modern world words now. Shannon was 1000% percent on point and correct.
Gentlemen please stop listening to these mother raised simps for relationship advice. Kirk is out of touch and he doesn’t have the game.
So you want us to listen to anton who has been out of the game for 20 years and never had game?
@@mob4ever who better to take marriage advice from than a man that’s been married for 20 years?
@@jondough9315 Kirk has been married longer. So that defeats your point.
@@mob4ever you contradicted yourself. You first disqualified Anton because he’s been married for 20 years. Than you champion Kirk Franklin because he’s been married longer.
@jondough9315 No I didn't. You said don't listen to Kirk yet he has been married longer. See you men need a lot of guidance. You come to the internet and look for a leader who you don't know to give you advice. Anton has lied his way to where he is. I first watched him when he wasn't popular. This is a character he's playing just like Charleston White.
The way you treat her when you first meet her is the way she will expect to be treated for then on. If you lead with your wallet she gonna already think you got it like that and even if you do your setting yourself up to get played from jump. Women already putting guys in their phone as free food why would you go into the situation putting yourself in that position to get finessed ? NEVER DO THIS . If she gotta problem with cheap date then she can go find a sucka frl cause at the end of the day she has to earn those type of dates and if she is not trying to contribute to getting to know you and always wants to be on the receiving end of everything then she need to go .
Kirk said “I gotta give you youngstas simp. Y’all ain’t got no simp.”
That’s what I heard him say. Some claim he said “game”. I heard simp.
SIMPin aint game playboy
I don't usually comment but anton is 💯 percent correct this programming has to stop
Isnt this the same Kirk who's grown ass man of a son acted like a child? Kirk is a Gospel Derrick Jaxson with his pandering
😂😂😂😂he’s a joke and when he said social construct that sealed the nail in the coffin 😂😂😂😂
Someone is going to take his advice too 🤦🏽♂️
All the women will praise him
Anton said it best. "Im not trying to WIN you."
Good topic and conversation ANTON! salute 🫡
All the broken men still trying to seek validation from “mommy” who emasculated, neglected, verbally abused, tortured, or beaten them in their adolescence speak this way
Your mother will be your first heartbreak, gentlemen (the level of evil they possess when damaged will continue life times)
What
The hell?
Naw my wife and I go 100-100… We don’t let the outside world determine anything. Reasons we’re 13 years into our marriage
The one thing I got from Kirk, “ IT DOESN’T MAKE THEM WRONG, IT MAKES THEM NOT YOU”. Maybe if we started thinking like that, then maybe we can get past these repeating talking points. Either don’t entertain, don’t engage, or take the meat and spit out the bones. Just go on with YOUR life and do things the way YOU see fit. It’s really not that hard.
*Thank U bro. The burden of performance is always on the Man*
Yes blending families is harder now when you tryin to be a leading father cause for 1 example it's to much hate from the step child's family an they know what they be doing tryin to continue to confuse the child like if a man holding it down the child's mother not going no where but its just had become to much to deal with I gave that field up all power to guys that gets into that field an tryin to make it but to me you just wind up going backwards an lost out on tons of money in the end
Shannon trippin’ cuz I’m def checkin’ out feet!!!…
PAY & PROVIDE are not the same..when you PAY that mean you OWE something..when you PROVIDE that mean you are GUIDING..but do as you please