My Mustang GT is also manual and has adaptive cruise control, but if it didn't have it, I wouldn't be bothered as I am not a big fan. I turn off most of these modern "tech" features like lane departure as I like to drive and control the car myself. If I can't steer a car between 2 white lines by myself, I shouldn't have a license.
My thoughts exactly Tim. I just passed on the new BMW 230i and M240xi because you can't turn off lane assist! If you can't drive all the tech in the world won't make you better. Hmmm on further thoughts, maybe the lane assist is for when your fiddling with the enormous touch screen.
You know what I hate most about modern car reviews? The amount of time they spend on chrome highlights, carbon fiber look bits and so on. Tell us how well it fits together (are there any squeaky parts, do they look like they're a quality build, is it cheap plastic...) and quickly switch to the actual guts of the review. Is it built to last (is the drive train proven, is something updated to fix blemishes in the last variant), does the motor offer more economy, does it cost performance or add to it.. the meaty stuff.
I just came to laugh at the title and premise. If you know how to drive manual and love driving, then there is zero reason to get the cvt. There is a reason why 85% of wrx drivers choose manual.
Here in the U.S. we don’t get the 4th brake light or heated rear seats. Also with our Limited trim which has the alcantara seats only the driver’s seat is electronic. Feels bad, but I’m going with this car in World Rally Blue and 6MT. I drove it back in November and have been torn between this and a used STI. For me I’d rather have a new car that hasn’t been abused the way every STI has been.
I gotta be honest I love the analog gauge. I enjoy the screens for the consoles and such but something about the screen style digital displays bother me. Don’t know why but it just makes the car feel more like a Subaru.
Your headline says avoid the manual, the Cvt is probably better. But you didn’t drive the Cvt, explain why you think it’s AWD system is better or note how much driver engagement you need to give up in order to get the extra buttons on the steering wheel you want. You seemed to enjoy driving the manual, so why the negative headline?
Yeah headline little strangely written. Still fun review. PS Ok car but last Gen was better. Just get GR Corolla if you want STI kind of car. I will stick with my GR Yaris for a while but would love new Type R next to it.
Oh geez people Jacob is reviewing the manual if you listen CAREFULLY he tells the difference between the manual and the CVT so give him a break! Good on you Jacob! Got ya back bro
@@slavstojnic7279 To be fair to Jacob, he has taken on board this feedback and changed the headline from “Avoid the manual cvt prob better” to “phenomenal performance ultimate sports sedan” which better reflects the content of the video.
Great timing for this review! Was in Werribee Plaza Subaru today looking at this in their show room. Looks superb. I can only drive auto so the CVT it is for me. Organising a test drive. So far 95% sold.
I hate to admit it, but If I was buying one, I'd also get the auto as adaptive cruise is a feature I won't live without. It's one of those features that once you lived with, you can't go back.
Nice review. Have driven one and agree its fun to drive. But like you mention the lack of safety features is disappointing, and its performance (lack of) in comparison to other competitors means I'm not planning to upgrade.
DO NOT GET THE CVT. I have one and it’s shit. Feels like im driving with a rubber band as the transmission (basically is a big ass rubber band in a box). If you’re wanting to modify the car to make more power, you can’t because the transmission can only hold around 300-330 hp/lbft before exploding. Probably the worst transmission on the planet for a “performance oriented” car.
@@JoeNocella well lets just say they are expensive to replace. roughly $10k per trans. They will eventually start to slip. They don’t handle power that well. 330 crank max and thats pushing your luck. Now if you’re just gonna have it as a grocery getter than its fine. It handles really well and is a smooth ride. But like i said. if you’re wanting to modify the car, get the manual. They cant hold up to more abuse and power compared to the CVT.
I just don't think they've gone anywhere in so many years.. Usually with almost every model of car, there's generational leaps - the WRX is no quicker, if at all, than the first model ever was decades back, and that's silly. The auto version is actually slow with the CVT. I just expect this price point to have lush leather, digital cluster, launch control for manual and auto, and a sub 6 second time but ideally more like 5. I don't see the value in it at all, sorry. It wasn't even a shortlist for me let alone a consideration.
I had an MY98 WRX and it had a pissweak sewing machine sound even back then in peak rally car times. All those farty boxers you heard on the road were aftermarket exhausts/mufflers. So you should expect all the review cars to also have crappy exhaust sound. I was in the market for a quickish compact/medium suv and I visited Subaru's web page and they seem stuck in the past. Their interiors are below average, their exterior design is below average and their only good petrol engines are teamed up with CVT. Even the brand new Solterra has an average interior. All very ho-hum. I settled on an iX1 (but almost got a Cupra). I'm still an old school Colin McRae Subaru fanboy but I think it's better not to relive memories this time around.
I’m not impressed with the performance. At a time of falling AU Subaru sales, they release “performance “ car with the performance of a Camry v6. Maybe with Toyota’s share of Subaru, there might be something better in the near future.
@@pauld6556 take the dct any day over a shit cvt. And the wet clutch DCT in them now is a lot more stout then the old dry clutch system. Or just get the manual which is even better
@@pauld6556 crap dual clutch? Wtf? It's a 8 speed wet clutch DCT , literally no other dct comes close except a PDK from Porsche... It shits on a Volkswagen DSG lol you've got no idea. The WRX has a worse interior than the i30n sedan 100% . No heated and cooled seating , techs terrible compared to the N, just as much hard plastic anyway and looks extremely dated.
Bro, a fat man in a tuxedo is still a fat man. This thing is a disgrace. Yes it has a very refined ride and handles very well. The interior is done very well in the Limited and GT version. Steering wheel very nice. But that’s where it stops. Performance? 1st gear is a dog. From 2nd gear on it does start to pick up a bit, but it’s no Sti. Looks? It looks like a Crosstrek Sport GT conception😅 You may grow to like the look, but you’ll never love the look as well as anyone else. $30k plus for any version of this car is a total waste of money. Find a used Sti and put what you really want in it. You’ll be far happier in the long run without ridiculous payments to make.
This car is fully trash! There is no engine sound from any subaru ever. That us the saddest. You know it isn't gonna live even half way to the subaru name when it's the model they stopped making the sti's in. I've seen its even slower than the previous generations. Subaru please stop making these if your going to worsen them PLEASE!!!
seeing how you use the gearbox almost brought me to tears! One of the best gearboxes you can find used like a bricklayer use the pickaxe! I can't see dealing with jewels like this!
Wow you were stabbing the gears across the shift like a hot cross bun with unnecessary force. Take it easy these gears are designed to slide through with clutch engagement as smooth as whipped butter. I cringed at your driving - surprisingly you declare you drive a manual? Daily? Geez who would’ve thought?💭🧐🏎️🤔
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My Mustang GT is also manual and has adaptive cruise control, but if it didn't have it, I wouldn't be bothered as I am not a big fan. I turn off most of these modern "tech" features like lane departure as I like to drive and control the car myself. If I can't steer a car between 2 white lines by myself, I shouldn't have a license.
Maybe you should buy a horse and cart
@@grizzlyelchapo4219 Horses are unpredictable
@@timcollins380 so are people
@@grizzlyelchapo4219 I agree, but people aren't as good with carts.
My thoughts exactly Tim.
I just passed on the new BMW 230i and M240xi because you can't turn off lane assist!
If you can't drive all the tech in the world won't make you better.
Hmmm on further thoughts, maybe the lane assist is for when your fiddling with the enormous touch screen.
I hate digital speedometer. In negative temperatures, it lags. I like it analog. Simple, clean, and functional.
You know what I hate most about modern car reviews? The amount of time they spend on chrome highlights, carbon fiber look bits and so on.
Tell us how well it fits together (are there any squeaky parts, do they look like they're a quality build, is it cheap plastic...) and quickly switch to the actual guts of the review.
Is it built to last (is the drive train proven, is something updated to fix blemishes in the last variant), does the motor offer more economy, does it cost performance or add to it.. the meaty stuff.
I just came to laugh at the title and premise. If you know how to drive manual and love driving, then there is zero reason to get the cvt. There is a reason why 85% of wrx drivers choose manual.
100%
Here in the U.S. we don’t get the 4th brake light or heated rear seats. Also with our Limited trim which has the alcantara seats only the driver’s seat is electronic. Feels bad, but I’m going with this car in World Rally Blue and 6MT. I drove it back in November and have been torn between this and a used STI.
For me I’d rather have a new car that hasn’t been abused the way every STI has been.
I gotta be honest I love the analog gauge. I enjoy the screens for the consoles and such but something about the screen style digital displays bother me. Don’t know why but it just makes the car feel more like a Subaru.
Hi jacob. Like how u have taken note of feedback and slowed down your speech. That was the only gripe I had with you. No more complaints🙂
Thanks for the feedback!
Love how you changed the title and thumbnail when you realized the clock bait was horrible
Learn from your mistakes I suppose!
Your headline says avoid the manual, the Cvt is probably better. But you didn’t drive the Cvt, explain why you think it’s AWD system is better or note how much driver engagement you need to give up in order to get the extra buttons on the steering wheel you want. You seemed to enjoy driving the manual, so why the negative headline?
Agreed no real in depth explanation for the reason to buy the cvt!!
Yeah headline little strangely written.
Still fun review.
PS Ok car but last Gen was better.
Just get GR Corolla if you want STI kind of car.
I will stick with my GR Yaris for a while but would love new Type R next to it.
Click bait worked.
Oh geez people Jacob is reviewing the manual if you listen CAREFULLY he tells the difference between the manual and the CVT so give him a break! Good on you Jacob! Got ya back bro
@@slavstojnic7279 To be fair to Jacob, he has taken on board this feedback and changed the headline from “Avoid the manual cvt prob better” to “phenomenal performance ultimate sports sedan” which better reflects the content of the video.
Those wheel arch vents would only funnel air to the brakes if the car was in reverse bruh
My 19' Tacoma is manual and has adaptive cruise control. You're right. They can definitely do it on a manual.
The hexagonal pattern on the wheel arches serve the same purpose as dimpling on a golf ball- drag reduction
Nothings beats the 90s wrx model.😅
Slick review, awesome to see a manual in the review world
Better even to drive one 😄
Excellent review 👌
Dang they got heated rear seats and rear adjustable headrest…… kinda cool
Great review.
Thank you!
Great timing for this review! Was in Werribee Plaza Subaru today looking at this in their show room. Looks superb. I can only drive auto so the CVT it is for me. Organising a test drive. So far 95% sold.
Why not i30N if you want an auto? That's like the most capable automatic sports car sub 60k.
@@paulklp8262not awd
Horse and cart is better than a cvt
hey Jacob, pascal (Pa) is the unit for pressure, essentially in Bar (100 kPa = 1 bar).
If only they add a turbo to the xv crosstrek. That will be perfect.
Bro that tablet screen looks super laggy. Honestly looks annoying to use
I hate to admit it, but If I was buying one, I'd also get the auto as adaptive cruise is a feature I won't live without.
It's one of those features that once you lived with, you can't go back.
Who ever thought we’d be saying buy the CVT 😜
@@CarSauce I'd also get the wagon. Looks prettier
I’d buy the manual…. I hate adaptive cruise control
@@craigelliott2524 Me too
Yeah I here ya. Wouldn’t go back
Nice review. Have driven one and agree its fun to drive. But like you mention the lack of safety features is disappointing, and its performance (lack of) in comparison to other competitors means I'm not planning to upgrade.
I just wish it had those!
the real big safety feature is you. put a moron in the drivers seat and all the safety features in the world will not help!
DO NOT GET THE CVT. I have one and it’s shit. Feels like im driving with a rubber band as the transmission (basically is a big ass rubber band in a box). If you’re wanting to modify the car to make more power, you can’t because the transmission can only hold around 300-330 hp/lbft before exploding. Probably the worst transmission on the planet for a “performance oriented” car.
Mind if I ask, if the CVT is so bad, why did you buy it? Did you test drive it?
@@JoeNocella well lets just say they are expensive to replace. roughly $10k per trans. They will eventually start to slip. They don’t handle power that well. 330 crank max and thats pushing your luck. Now if you’re just gonna have it as a grocery getter than its fine. It handles really well and is a smooth ride. But like i said. if you’re wanting to modify the car, get the manual. They cant hold up to more abuse and power compared to the CVT.
@@JoeNocella i did test drive it. I got it originally just as a grocery getter, but my carcain addiction wanted me to modify it. So i did.
Can you get factory wing on this car? Would look so much better
The aero at the back of a wheel arch is to help air leave the wheel arch. Not sure? Go watch Porsche videos
I miss my MY05!
Hey, awesome review. I hope you are paid well as this review was excellent. Liked the lack of bullshit most reviewers give. More please.
The black plastic just looks cheap like a base model truck. Painted to match would be much better IMO.
Super cool wheel arches, really. They make the car look like a flattened SUV.
Flattened RAV4.
the rear looks like the BRZ/GR86
Can someone please tell me what exact color this WRX is??
sapphire blue
@@JoeNocella ty
"Super cool wheel arches" *Dislikes* Bro I love the car, but that is simply a Lie. ahahah
15:55 quite agree on blindspot.. We do need blindspot indicator due trafic on out country quite heavy and fast and close..
It doesn't look as good as the older models..
I just don't think they've gone anywhere in so many years.. Usually with almost every model of car, there's generational leaps - the WRX is no quicker, if at all, than the first model ever was decades back, and that's silly. The auto version is actually slow with the CVT. I just expect this price point to have lush leather, digital cluster, launch control for manual and auto, and a sub 6 second time but ideally more like 5. I don't see the value in it at all, sorry. It wasn't even a shortlist for me let alone a consideration.
Yeah it could do with some theatre.
For example the GTI golf has rumble and farts and its fun!
6,6 IS REALLY BAD! IT HAS TO BE 3,8
Im still waiting for the BRZ review😢
I had an MY98 WRX and it had a pissweak sewing machine sound even back then in peak rally car times. All those farty boxers you heard on the road were aftermarket exhausts/mufflers. So you should expect all the review cars to also have crappy exhaust sound. I was in the market for a quickish compact/medium suv and I visited Subaru's web page and they seem stuck in the past. Their interiors are below average, their exterior design is below average and their only good petrol engines are teamed up with CVT. Even the brand new Solterra has an average interior. All very ho-hum. I settled on an iX1 (but almost got a Cupra). I'm still an old school Colin McRae Subaru fanboy but I think it's better not to relive memories this time around.
I’m not impressed with the performance. At a time of falling AU Subaru sales, they release “performance “ car with the performance of a Camry v6. Maybe with Toyota’s share of Subaru, there might be something better in the near future.
GR WRX 😁
I'm glad I bought an i30 Sedan N now... RIP WRX
Love STI ❤️ but not wrx👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Just avoid them both and get a i30n sedan
Japanese over Korean any day of the week
Horrible plastics inside and crap dual clutch. No thanks.
@@pauld6556 take the dct any day over a shit cvt. And the wet clutch DCT in them now is a lot more stout then the old dry clutch system. Or just get the manual which is even better
@@pauld6556 crap dual clutch? Wtf? It's a 8 speed wet clutch DCT , literally no other dct comes close except a PDK from Porsche... It shits on a Volkswagen DSG lol you've got no idea.
The WRX has a worse interior than the i30n sedan 100% . No heated and cooled seating , techs terrible compared to the N, just as much hard plastic anyway and looks extremely dated.
@@deathtozemotherland manual isn't better than the DCT in the i30n sedan. It's slower.
Bro, a fat man in a tuxedo is still a fat man. This thing is a disgrace. Yes it has a very refined ride and handles very well. The interior is done very well in the Limited and GT version. Steering wheel very nice. But that’s where it stops. Performance? 1st gear is a dog. From 2nd gear on it does start to pick up a bit, but it’s no Sti. Looks? It looks like a Crosstrek Sport GT conception😅 You may grow to like the look, but you’ll never love the look as well as anyone else. $30k plus for any version of this car is a total waste of money. Find a used Sti and put what you really want in it. You’ll be far happier in the long run without ridiculous payments to make.
performance is really disappointing
This car is fully trash! There is no engine sound from any subaru ever. That us the saddest. You know it isn't gonna live even half way to the subaru name when it's the model they stopped making the sti's in. I've seen its even slower than the previous generations. Subaru please stop making these if your going to worsen them PLEASE!!!
Stage -1 tune and cold air intake and this car is a torque monster
seeing how you use the gearbox almost brought me to tears!
One of the best gearboxes you can find used like a bricklayer use the pickaxe!
I can't see dealing with jewels like this!
Yeah I was thinking that when it was being launched.. brutal
Wow you were stabbing the gears across the shift like a hot cross bun with unnecessary force. Take it easy these gears are designed to slide through with clutch engagement as smooth as whipped butter. I cringed at your driving - surprisingly you declare you drive a manual? Daily? Geez who would’ve thought?💭🧐🏎️🤔