Yep, arguably the best balanced DD line in the game. Not counting the T-22 anyway. I love my Fletcher, but it gets dicey. The Z-23, though slower and less maneuverable, can really hold its own.
I use Maximillian Von Spee. Torp range/reload and detectibility with Bey and Tyrwhitt as inspiration. My detectibility for my Z-23 is 5,1km (about 4,9km potential) with a -4,5% camo 9,2km torps (9,8km potential not fully upgraded). 70 knots speed Will admit maneuvering is not great but speed somewhat makes up for it. Edit: just got the torpedo upgrade for torp speed and it gave me +1knots AND+1,3km torps?! so I have 10,3km torp range with a speed of 70 knots. Fun little ship
Yeah z23 is awesome dd and it’s the most flexible dd imo . I used bey for long time and now I am using von spee and both do great with different play style . the best I reached as all in torpedo build was in the z23 with von spee and 58 seconds reload, 70 knots torpedo speed and 4.8 km concealment.
You have alot of HE shells breaking from hitting turrets or upper armor on the Nelson and Rich(insert french gibberish). Get them all in the super structure. Set the fire AND the damage. Other than that, this is the perfect example of how I thinking the Z-23 needs to played as. The fact you had support is even better as I wouldnt have bothered shooting a Benson without it.
@Will Kelly Once he has 3 fires going he could focus on dealing damage with the guns Would have probably pushed him to 180k or 190k. Maybe even 200k if he was greedier and decided to trust his teammates to have brains.
Question. How can it cap and capture objectives in domination games when the entire teams runs to edge? I try contest as I understand the value but usually die early from zero help. Any helpful tips when this always happens?
How the hell were they blind firing you that accurately when not spotted and not shooting? I would really like a video on blind shooting. I cant do it to save my life and I try, but it seeks like a lot of people I run into have no problem. Maybe I am just doing it wrong.
Gotta watch for where the gun fire comes from, and aim a bit lower than that, as the guns are on the top of the ship and you want to hit it towards the bottom
Z-23 is Beast!!! I run a Jacked Von Spee with a Jacked Bey inspiring.. Nasty torp stats. Gotta be top 3 DD's in the game if not the best.. Awesome ship..
@@TbullGaming Man I'd love to get your take on the Aigle.. I Love it!! Curious to know if it may carry special H.E. shells?!? It surprisingly will melt an enemy DD.. Torps hit hard as well.. I am running a jacked Philippe due to aquiring Le Terrible a while back
I still think von spee is the better choice. Even in this video most of your damage is from torps and flooding anyway. You only did half the damage into the Benson and lightning. I think von spee guns can do the same amount of damage to those ships.
I really struggle with this DD. Seems to be ok at Everything but great at nothing. I feel ìt requires team work to get the most out of it, something I rarely find unfortunately.
Your team won't do what you want them to do most of the time, but if you stay close enough to them that they can support you, they might wind up being useful
@@TbullGaming yeah I try too. Usually end up supporting some Muppet that just yolos to one side of the map on his own. I love it tho when a good cruiser player backs me up. After watching your video I don't feel I'm doing anything majorly wrong, maybe I need to tweak a few things on my set up. Maybe that's an idea for adding in future videos a quick look at what mods you have installed for the ship in question.
Nice tactic review...you HAD to have your comments scripted beforehand, because you barely paused for breath...there was SO much commentary there...excellent! I have Bey at 14, and the Gaede almost fully upgraded...I've started prioritizing the German DDs over the Japanese. Will get them both finished one day. I broke down at Christmas and invested in a year of premium time at the 75% off rate...definitely increased my rate of silver earn...most all of my grinds are getting the tier 6 ships now, so I run the risk of stalling for a while waiting on silver...
A 16k salvo from a DD is like seeing Bigfoot, no one believes it till they see it.
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Everyone mocks the destroyer firing ap, till the entire Salvo hits your citadel.
I only just started the German destroyer line and I'm loving it, on my third game I managed a 110k game in teir 3 and it was so much fun
Good timing... just unlocked this yesterday, on to the upgrade!
Nice!
You don't always get a great score playing objectives but when you do it's the icing on the cake. Well played.
Yep, arguably the best balanced DD line in the game. Not counting the T-22 anyway. I love my Fletcher, but it gets dicey. The Z-23, though slower and less maneuverable, can really hold its own.
Nice display of the Z23's capabilities. Unlocked and purchased it a couple of days ago. Don't have the 150's yet, but loving this destroyer!
You'll probably like it even more with the new guns
I love my little Z-23. It’s more like a light cruiser with a smoke rather then a DD, but that’s what makes it fun.
Been running with the 128 mm guns a de-upgrade for the faster reload and am liking it better. Same with Tier 5 Gaede.
Great gameplay,the Z-23 is my weak spot. I find her less maneuverable than the MAASS but an extremely dangerous foe
I will try your build
I'm really looking forward to your opinions on the von spree build.
Good game, man. Thanks for bringing the content!
Thanks!
YES! Bey is the man and using the same perks except I'm using Leviathan instead of the other one for a bit more tankiness and I'm sitting at 22800 hp.
Nice, should be pretty hard to take down with that setup
I like this replay well done.
I use Maximillian Von Spee. Torp range/reload and detectibility with Bey and Tyrwhitt as inspiration.
My detectibility for my Z-23 is 5,1km (about 4,9km potential) with a -4,5% camo
9,2km torps (9,8km potential not fully upgraded). 70 knots speed
Will admit maneuvering is not great but speed somewhat makes up for it.
Edit: just got the torpedo upgrade for torp speed and it gave me +1knots AND+1,3km torps?! so I have 10,3km torp range with a speed of 70 knots.
Fun little ship
Yeah z23 is awesome dd and it’s the most flexible dd imo . I used bey for long time and now I am using von spee and both do great with different play style . the best I reached as all in torpedo build was in the z23 with von spee and 58 seconds reload, 70 knots torpedo speed and 4.8 km concealment.
That sounds pretty juicy
Who is placed in the second inspiration box? Skewersky? I don't see any commander with this name.
You have alot of HE shells breaking from hitting turrets or upper armor on the Nelson and Rich(insert french gibberish). Get them all in the super structure. Set the fire AND the damage.
Other than that, this is the perfect example of how I thinking the Z-23 needs to played as. The fact you had support is even better as I wouldnt have bothered shooting a Benson without it.
@Will Kelly Once he has 3 fires going he could focus on dealing damage with the guns
Would have probably pushed him to 180k or 190k. Maybe even 200k if he was greedier and decided to trust his teammates to have brains.
@Will Kelly thats why i said, get the fires and the damage but you fine. Someone else may have misinterpreted me too
@Will Kelly rereading it, i now see what you mean
I just got the fletcher a few days ago gotta work on her for a bit
Nice, that's a good one
Best girl Nimi
What do you think of Sims as an inspiration on her?
Question. How can it cap and capture objectives in domination games when the entire teams runs to edge? I try contest as I understand the value but usually die early from zero help. Any helpful tips when this always happens?
T. Harding always give your self a out. If you go into a cap and your out numbered disengage and try again in a few minutes.
I have the z-23 and 4 other T7 ships unlocked, but need 18M credits each to use them. It will be a while :(
They are expensive, but you'll get em all sooner or later
Did anyone get the mod list before he took down his discord?
How the hell were they blind firing you that accurately when not spotted and not shooting? I would really like a video on blind shooting. I cant do it to save my life and I try, but it seeks like a lot of people I run into have no problem. Maybe I am just doing it wrong.
Gotta watch for where the gun fire comes from, and aim a bit lower than that, as the guns are on the top of the ship and you want to hit it towards the bottom
Z-23 is Beast!!! I run a Jacked Von Spee with a Jacked Bey inspiring.. Nasty torp stats. Gotta be top 3 DD's in the game if not the best.. Awesome ship..
Yeah it's a beast
@@TbullGaming Man I'd love to get your take on the Aigle.. I Love it!! Curious to know if it may carry special H.E. shells?!? It surprisingly will melt an enemy DD.. Torps hit hard as well.. I am running a jacked Philippe due to aquiring Le Terrible a while back
Can you do another hipper video
What nation is this ship?
German
Tbull thanks
Not bad tbull
Thanks!
I still think von spee is the better choice. Even in this video most of your damage is from torps and flooding anyway. You only did half the damage into the Benson and lightning. I think von spee guns can do the same amount of damage to those ships.
I really struggle with this DD. Seems to be ok at Everything but great at nothing. I feel ìt requires team work to get the most out of it, something I rarely find unfortunately.
Your team won't do what you want them to do most of the time, but if you stay close enough to them that they can support you, they might wind up being useful
@@TbullGaming yeah I try too. Usually end up supporting some Muppet that just yolos to one side of the map on his own. I love it tho when a good cruiser player backs me up.
After watching your video I don't feel I'm doing anything majorly wrong, maybe I need to tweak a few things on my set up.
Maybe that's an idea for adding in future videos a quick look at what mods you have installed for the ship in question.
Nice tactic review...you HAD to have your comments scripted beforehand, because you barely paused for breath...there was SO much commentary there...excellent! I have Bey at 14, and the Gaede almost fully upgraded...I've started prioritizing the German DDs over the Japanese. Will get them both finished one day. I broke down at Christmas and invested in a year of premium time at the 75% off rate...definitely increased my rate of silver earn...most all of my grinds are getting the tier 6 ships now, so I run the risk of stalling for a while waiting on silver...
Yeah, the silver is the main bottleneck when it comes to T7s, but you'll get em all at some point
Plus you had sonar so the Benson really had no chance regardless. It was just an all around terrible play by the Benson.
The German Destroyers aren't "Destroyers" They are Small Cruisers!
Need 10 millions to purchase him
Z23 is better