I searched for this device online, it seems to be the size of a small but thick briefcase and even has a handle on it. Exploit #2, insert hand around the handle and walk away.
@@burntalive heavily depends on how long the code is, rather than how many digits you have available. 5 digits long from 1~5 is 3125 combinations, 3 digits long from 0~9 is 1000.
@@burntalive depends on the number of digits of the password, it wasn't mentioned a 5 digit size. it could be 443214233221234231 and * to enter hahaha
I'd venture to add one more point: Since the institution recommends the product, a potential burglar could easily have access to the information and expect to see it the the housings, making it even more attractive and easy to prepare for it.
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It's honestly weird they recommended it, given that there's nothing to recommend about it. Do they have some psychological need to appear knowledgeable?
@@tcpratt1660 Well, as would a "special someone" of great experience and knowledge say: "if you're going to have crimes, It might as well be organised". (But who am I to quote the Patrician...!) ;)
This seems like a fantastic product. Make sure it's placed in a slightly hidden spot, stuff it full of random papers, mix in some old assignments - bunch of stuff that looks valuable. Nice little decoy.
I like to used credit cards for closed accounts, or expired ones. If you have a completely inoperable second hand .25 auto, that's great bait. Pick up a junk one at a show, squirt the workings full of JB weld....
I used to open locks like these with the small scissors that come in a swiss army pocket knife....or rather, the cheap knock-offs. Took all of 3 seconds to do and the owners would be amazed at my skills. Unfortunately I haven't been able to show off my skills much recently, due to most companies here having switched to at least somewhat more secure locks :)
@@chaos.corner If the lock is this easy, yes :) With the scissors you have more chance on slightly harder locks too (even pin tumblers). It just works like a jiggler.
I have a teacher that's always bragging about how they work at Honeywell and how it's a great job, very creative team, etc, etc. I showed her this video and she went awfully quiet afterwards.
there is no quality regulation in this industry.... not to mention america's culture has long been the champion of 'no regulation' for anything. So expect this crap from all companies, the bigger the company the worse the crap..... now think what that means in terms of the pharmaceutical industry giants...
Because people, by and large, don't know any better. In that regard, LPL is doing a public service by reviewing these products, critiquing them fairly (pointing out both negatives and, where applicable, positives), and sharing that information for free.
People are generally lazy, and putting more thought and testing into a product makes less money. Put it together, you get this, and they sell like hotcakes. That's how they get away with it. Even though LPL shines a very bright light on this atrocity, it won't likely get fixed any time soon, and they'll keep on making money on it, taking advantage of the majority out there who 'just buy it' in their laziness and false sense of security and false trust of quality. TL;DR Because humans, that's how they get away with it and why they do it.
@Evi1 M4chine Nonsense. Profit comes when what I want from you is less valuable to you than to me, and vice versa. A farmer profits from selling 100 tons of corn, because the farmer can't eat 100 tons of corn. He profits by buying a computer from me for $400 that he would spend $600 of his own time learning to put together.
When a wafer jiggle works that quickly, my experience shows that most keys that fit the slot will work the same as the wafer juggler. This applies for most office cabinets and desk drawers. I learned this when my desk drawer was compromised at work Lucky for me, all they found was work stuff..
yep shown that at my work, the great locks they have on display cases i used a blank key and opened them, told them your lucky im on payroll as things this easy for me are even easier for the pros.
And the best part of that? It's _totally_ covert if they're using an incorrect key to jiggle open the lock. "What? No, this is the key, this lock... Is... Just... _Finnicky._ Okay, there we go, got it! See? Opened the lock, with the key."
These videos have taught me to look out for and avoid purchasing most things with cheap wafer core locks on them. I actually was able to open one at home recently by just jamming in a random (incorrect) key that happened to fit and jiggled it in and out a bit while turning and it opened in like 2 seconds.
I will admit before watching this video I was under the same impression of "something is better than nothing." However when you pointed out the fact that "now you have put all your valuables in one place, I can totally see what you mean! Thanks for giving a new perspective on this type of situation!
How would you like this idea: Take older bulky laptop, something like Lenovo T460. Open it, remove all the normal electronics, replace them with batteries and GPS locator and leave it there as decoy. If it moves, you can call cops and give them pretty accurate location of the thief. Maybe toss in also a notepad with some random ideas and some jewelry, just to make it interesting for police.
Even if this device had a best-in-class lock, it still has one fundamental flaw in addition to conveniently packaging all the owner's valuables into one box: It's not physically secured to anything. Any thief can just put it in their bag, take it home and work on opening it at their leisure
At least this lock box comes with a cable to tether it to something less movable, most lock boxes don't have this with this as an option. Although, looking at that cable, you could probably cut through it in less than a minute with a cheap pair of wire cutters.
Idea: Store your valuables in places other than this lockbox. Purchase a big brick of lead, and put it in the lockbox, along with a printed note containing your taunt of choice. When a thief steals the lockbox, they may not bother with taking anything else from your home (or at least steal fewer things), given how heavy and presumably full of valuables the lockbox must be. Once they get home and open the box, the thief may be prompted to reconsider their life choices. As for the taunting note, personally I'm partial to a printed Word document with a winking Sans face and the message "geeettttttt dunked on!!!"
When I was around 11/12 years old I figured out many locks could open using the jiggle technique. I used to always carry nail clippers with me and the nail file that folded out from it was perfect for jiggling many file cabinets or even door cabinet locks and other very poorly pinned locks open. I was known by the teachers for being able to do it so easily that when they forgot their keys they would ask me to open it for them. This was back in like 6th grade in middle school. My science teacher needed my help the most. Even saved the day once to be able to feed the gerbils we had in the room. I think it was like 30 years ago or so now. Like around 91’ or 92’. Dang nab it I’m old and more advanced now. 😁 😎
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I fully agree. This device cons the user in thinking there is some security, while there is none. That screws up their risk management and hence makes them less secure.
"A thief doesn't need to spend time looking for your valuables, you conveniently put them all in one place for them." Hear hear! This is why concealment always comes first and cover second. You can even get away with just the first. Can't steal what you can't find.
I always think of a story my ex-girlfriend told me about some "old family friends" (though this sounded suspiciously like herself and her twin sister, of course I was dating the messy one). Two sisters who lived in the same house, one was extremely tidy, had the most clean and organized bedroom. Other had no concept of organization and lived in a total disaster zone. At some point the house got robbed. Organized sister's valuables, in the exact place anyone would expect, were taken. Messy room was totally untouched, presumably robber took one look and said "big nope!"
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A well folded paper clip has opened many of these safes, desk drawers, and file cabinets for me. Amazing the money people will spend for false security.
"Honeywell has made fantastic job proving that when it comes to security something isn't always better than nothing." I think you should include a recommendation what to get instead. For example, instead of this product you could get a transparent zip bag. When you put any valuables inside such a bag, you absolutely know that you should hide that bag well.
Use this as a decoy safe. You can put your favourite snacks in there. Since it's the recommended safe, plus a funny plausible reason for using one, they might not look for the better hidden actual safe.
I would just put a meme inside. Like the infamous rick Astley 's shoe, the "circle finger" hand 👌, or the "no, you're getting robbed" from ASDF movie 😂
@@kecukraftwork1988 yeah but only thieves looking for valuables will try. The regular dorm student wouldn't be trying to get in, just looking for snacks. So the decoy safe, still serves a purpose. Besides if you just put something crummy in there, a theif could catch on to the trick.
Some of these safes should market as diversion safes. "Keep it in the open so the thief takes it and leaves your valuables!" But even diversions would need better resistance so the thief doesn't just open it on the spot in seconds (plural because I'm including the time it takes to select the tool).
In the Hulu show “The Patient”, Steve Carell’s character is chained to the floor with what appears to be a fairly basic lock. At one point early in the show, he fails to open the lock with a half-hearted pick attempt with a plastic fork. To be sure…you would have succeeded and been well on your way, cutting the show substantially short of a full season. Consider this a challenge! I suggest starting with a plastic fork, with the backup options being anything you see that is reasonably within his reach in the first couple of episodes. Fingers crossed that you make this happen!
I love how you make your videos to the point and funny dry humor through and you added a plug for your tool without it sounding like a boring advertisement. Keep up the great work!
I wonder what's going on with that cmpany. They seem to have a serious side to their business, arom airplane APU and cockpit displays to personal protective equipment. And then license that same name to be used for absolute junk?
@@DaVoKanfr Same name, but very, very different divisions. Though if I were CEO of Honeywell I would sell the crappy divisions such as gang who made this "safe", so they no longer shame the "proud name" of the company.
So, I was given as a gift when I was a kid a Sentry Fire-Proof safe, one of the small ones with a handle. After figuring out that my mailbox had a better lock in terms on picking I also found out the the tolerances were so bad on the hinges you could simply drop it on its corner and the lid would open... I never stored anything valuable in it.
Honestly going by how much play that dial has on it, along with the cheap wafer core, I'd reason a guess that even just some heavy-duty pliers secured onto the dial could wrench this open.
Something I learned over the years watching your videos is that if you take more than 1 minute to open a lock that lock is good enough for the everyday person. 2 minutes is a holy shit that lock it good. 3 minutes, is great gooogly mooogly WTF is that lock guarding.
You really hit the nail on the head with the comment about all your valuables being in one place. That's how I lost a bunch of stuff I inherited from my dad, they just stole the whole ass safe
One has to wonder, when an organization recommends such and obviously flawed product, that it is because they know how to open it and plan to do so at their leisure.
@@legendreoli in this safe's case, I'm willing to give them some benefit of the doubt. It was old when I first saw it and I don't know how much abuse it went through. All parts were in there though, and nothing was broken. That said, the actuator was rubber and would bend pretty darn easily
My parents got me the same safe before I moved in to college. I use it for valuables but I have it hidden in my room that stays locked when I’m not there. It’s really just a convenient place to have it. The day my parents gave it to me I looked at it and picked it open. I’ve thought about replacing the cylinder since it’s so cheap
Those keys! I've seen them before! If your lock, or strong-box, or whatever comes with those specific shaped keys, you know you've purchased worthless garbage. Heck, I defeated that type of lock with literally a cheap flat-head screwdriver and some muscle. Tore that cheap lock apart into tiny pieces. The lock itself is made from cheap junk pot-metal.
I love it, it took you less then 2 minutes to tell a story, review a product, pick a lock twice while "demonstrating" how it's done and then offer assistance or a QnA if needed. 🤯
I love that the actual key was used to re-lock the safe. I understand why, but it does also give the comedic impression that it'd be less convenient to lock the safe with the jiggler than it was to unlock.
This looks very similar to the ignition locks on many construction lifts. I discovered that if the key were missing, I could use a small padlock key that I always keep on my key ring to jiggle the lock on.
Or the side effects compared to the cure from all the pharmaceutical products on TV. "Cures baldness (side effects may be, but are not limited to, cancer, epilepsy, heart attacks, vomiting, diarrhea , uncontrolled bleeding from every orifice, death, and hair loss).
This is why, when you don't know, you should say "I don't know", rather than put out some awful purchaser advice. Unless Honeywell is paying you, and then list their entire catalog.
I once did the same thing with a used file cabinet that didn't have a key to, but I happened to have a key which fit into the lock cylinder. I just jiggled the key I had on hand to defeat that lock and it took 30 seconds or less to get past it. Job done. These wafer locks are almost as bad as a Schlage door lock from the 1980s.
Reminded me of our high school lockers. All, circa 600 of them had the same type of key. And I thought it would be funny to show my classmates how to bump and rake them, using key of their own locker. That way, you could open around 40 out of 100 lockers under 5 seconds. They never stole anything, rather left the unsuspecting person a surprise, such as fire extinguishers, garbage bins, old mouldy bread in a lockbag etc.
@@softweirImagine this, you are so hungry you could eat whole cow, you open your locker just to see your laces pulled out of your shoes. Happened to almost everyone in my class at some point 😂
When I was young, my parents bought my 2 brothers and I an older version of the same box. Even worse than having an easily pickable lock, one of my brothers and my box share the exact same key pattern. As far as I know, no one has ever tried to pick the lock, but my brother has definitely waltzed right into my room with his own key and snooped around. Not sure how that happened, you'd think that they would vary their locks enough that two boxes bought at the same time from the same store would use different keys, but nope!
@@DanBowkley looked at the TL-15 safes … a bit pricey and heavy for my budget and muscle to move… $2000 and 500 lbs at least… I know you get what you pay for and they look great… but I was thinking of something a bit lower cost and lighter that I could bolt down someplace
This is an important part of any good security setup. You fill it with worthless things that appear valuable as a trap so they think they have your stuff but what they actually have is just a bunch of plastic jewelery and a calculator with a gps tag in it.
At least your covert companion goes together. Mine doesn’t. As soon as you started adding accessories mine never went back together. PLEASE have a COMPLETE covert companion video and show us how is done. Mine is just in pieces. Thanks LPL!
Maybe LPL should do a "just rolled in" with locks: "This customer brought in his lock and key and says he has trouble opening the lock" (LPL discovers he was using the wrong key...) "Customer refused the work for a new key to be cut" 😅
I dont think the point of that is to convince regular viewers. Its to convince people who arent familiar with the channel and probably came to a video to see a review of one specific product they were considering purchasing
It's always, *always* a fluke. Until it's proven otherwise. Sorta a Schrodinger's Cat situation. If he *doesn't* do it twice, it's *obviously* just a lucky hit, and the internet will never let him hear the end of it. Best to open that cat's box and prove the thing is dead right away.
I bought a cashbox made by Honeywell and sold at Target for like $16. before I got my starter kit from LPL's store I was curious about how easy it was to break into the thing. Using the smaller rounded end of a paperclip I was able to open the lock just by jiggling it in there for a second or two. It's about as fast as using the key, and I was able to lock it using the same method. Glad I didn't buy the thing for it's safety features
Honeywell has always been the Masterlock of products. The only honeywell product that mostly works are their thermostats. Its pretty hard to screw up two wires attached to a thermal switch.
In computer security, we have a concept called honey pot. This could actually fulfill the same role in the real world. And the name of the brand was so close too!
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Considering how much money law school is going to steal from her, losing a wallet and a laptop is really nothing in the grand scheme of things.
It's insult to injury: "You've lost you bank balance, now you've lost your wallet, too!"
and in the case of my friend, not have a job practicing law at the end of it.
@@jandrewmore Sounds like your friend is ready for a seat in Congress.
So the recommendation is really a deflection.
And in the EU law school is mostly free. USA the land of the free but you have a pay lot for it!
“Let’s do it again to show it wasn’t a fluke” is like incinerating a corpse you shot and gassed twice to make sure it’s dead.
Nah, the corpse could still be a zombie. Better to be sure.
I wonder if he opened it once again to his friend so they'd know it wasn't a fluke
The ashes might come back from the dead, better do it a third time to be safe.
Bit harsh ... ?
@@LugborG Exactly, better safe than sorry...
I searched for this device online, it seems to be the size of a small but thick briefcase and even has a handle on it. Exploit #2, insert hand around the handle and walk away.
Unless that shit is bolted down securely, the lock isn't going to matter to much anyway.
Especially when the school recommends this model so that many people will have identical-looking "lock" boxes.
@@Kdschaak knowing their university, she’ll probably get a $500 fine for damaging *any* of the furniture in her dorm
@@baconwizard Not to worry, the Biden administration will forgive the fine.
Bruh ur a bot only bots says
“Insert hand around handle” that’s literally the exact words a bot would say u have been caught in 4K
When they don't even bother putting all ten numbers on the key pad it probably isn't the greatest 😂
Heck you can basically bruteforce the passcode in less than 15 minutes with only 5 digits.
Why put a keypad at all…just a knob that says Open
@@burntalive heavily depends on how long the code is, rather than how many digits you have available. 5 digits long from 1~5 is 3125 combinations, 3 digits long from 0~9 is 1000.
@@burntalive depends on the number of digits of the password, it wasn't mentioned a 5 digit size. it could be 443214233221234231 and * to enter hahaha
Jokes on you; the code was 777.
I'd venture to add one more point: Since the institution recommends the product, a potential burglar could easily have access to the information and expect to see it the the housings, making it even more attractive and easy to prepare for it.
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It's honestly weird they recommended it, given that there's nothing to recommend about it. Do they have some psychological need to appear knowledgeable?
@@roidroid oh that's a law school, so they probably have some sort of convention with the local burglar's guild...
@@timothyfavarger6191 Would that be DiscLawWorld? (With apologies to both the Legal and Illegal Thieves' Guilds, and Terry Pratchett.)
@@tcpratt1660 Well, as would a "special someone" of great experience and knowledge say: "if you're going to have crimes, It might as well be organised".
(But who am I to quote the Patrician...!) ;)
When he said "defeated with one of the lowest skill attacks out there"... I expected him to punch the box and have it pop open. :D
I was expecting the mallet
you just reminded me of a friend's parents car back in the early 80s, which you COULD just punch the door and the locks would pop up.
To be fair, he did say "ONE of the lowest skill" attacks" not "THE lowest skill" :p
Sounds more like a Mrs LPL approach judging by previous videos.
I was expecting jiggling the knob.
This seems like a fantastic product. Make sure it's placed in a slightly hidden spot, stuff it full of random papers, mix in some old assignments - bunch of stuff that looks valuable. Nice little decoy.
Use it as your cats litter box.
I like to used credit cards for closed accounts, or expired ones. If you have a completely inoperable second hand .25 auto, that's great bait. Pick up a junk one at a show, squirt the workings full of JB weld....
Yep. probably better off with a void cut into the bottom of your mattress.
Don't forget the ink packet.
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"so how is the safe"
"worse than nothing"
"do you mean better than nothing"
"nope... literally worse than nothing"
"So...we should start marketing them as...a diversion maybe?"
@Jessica Marie glitterbomb that sprays them when it's opened.
@Jessica Marie Hidden in a fake panel under a bunch of rocks.
@Jessica Marie The Mark Rober approach.
@@RinIsArty now we're talkin!
I used to open locks like these with the small scissors that come in a swiss army pocket knife....or rather, the cheap knock-offs. Took all of 3 seconds to do and the owners would be amazed at my skills. Unfortunately I haven't been able to show off my skills much recently, due to most companies here having switched to at least somewhat more secure locks :)
*choked coughing* “Honeywell.” *more choked coughing*
Same.. lmao
Lol lies
Paperclips work well also.
@@chaos.corner If the lock is this easy, yes :) With the scissors you have more chance on slightly harder locks too (even pin tumblers). It just works like a jiggler.
I have a teacher that's always bragging about how they work at Honeywell and how it's a great job, very creative team, etc, etc. I showed her this video and she went awfully quiet afterwards.
That's hilarious.
@@cvmaniac7286 For sure, at least she shut up for a day.
As a former honeywell employee, I was very not surprised with this video...
The honey money is at the government vault - the job of Honeywell - you guess it.
well they make a whole lot more than just safes lol. i would say the safes arent one of their strong suits
The fact that companies get away with selling products like this is baffling
there is no quality regulation in this industry.... not to mention america's culture has long been the champion of 'no regulation' for anything. So expect this crap from all companies, the bigger the company the worse the crap..... now think what that means in terms of the pharmaceutical industry giants...
Because people, by and large, don't know any better. In that regard, LPL is doing a public service by reviewing these products, critiquing them fairly (pointing out both negatives and, where applicable, positives), and sharing that information for free.
People are generally lazy, and putting more thought and testing into a product makes less money. Put it together, you get this, and they sell like hotcakes. That's how they get away with it. Even though LPL shines a very bright light on this atrocity, it won't likely get fixed any time soon, and they'll keep on making money on it, taking advantage of the majority out there who 'just buy it' in their laziness and false sense of security and false trust of quality.
TL;DR Because humans, that's how they get away with it and why they do it.
@Evi1 M4chine ?
1) I don't buy products like this
2) I'm not affected by products like this
3) what are you even on about
4) L comment
@Evi1 M4chine Nonsense. Profit comes when what I want from you is less valuable to you than to me, and vice versa. A farmer profits from selling 100 tons of corn, because the farmer can't eat 100 tons of corn. He profits by buying a computer from me for $400 that he would spend $600 of his own time learning to put together.
When a wafer jiggle works that quickly, my experience shows that most keys that fit the slot will work the same as the wafer juggler. This applies for most office cabinets and desk drawers. I learned this when my desk drawer was compromised at work Lucky for me, all they found was work stuff..
yep shown that at my work, the great locks they have on display cases i used a blank key and opened them, told them your lucky im on payroll as things this easy for me are even easier for the pros.
And the best part of that? It's _totally_ covert if they're using an incorrect key to jiggle open the lock.
"What? No, this is the key, this lock... Is... Just... _Finnicky._ Okay, there we go, got it! See? Opened the lock, with the key."
"Worse than nothing" is a damning inditement to say the least
That's actually even worse than his condemnation of Masterlock.
Not, however, as damning as my indictment of your spelling. 😈
These videos have taught me to look out for and avoid purchasing most things with cheap wafer core locks on them. I actually was able to open one at home recently by just jamming in a random (incorrect) key that happened to fit and jiggled it in and out a bit while turning and it opened in like 2 seconds.
That's terrible
I will admit before watching this video I was under the same impression of "something is better than nothing." However when you pointed out the fact that "now you have put all your valuables in one place, I can totally see what you mean! Thanks for giving a new perspective on this type of situation!
How would you like this idea: Take older bulky laptop, something like Lenovo T460. Open it, remove all the normal electronics, replace them with batteries and GPS locator and leave it there as decoy. If it moves, you can call cops and give them pretty accurate location of the thief.
Maybe toss in also a notepad with some random ideas and some jewelry, just to make it interesting for police.
Even if this device had a best-in-class lock, it still has one fundamental flaw in addition to conveniently packaging all the owner's valuables into one box: It's not physically secured to anything. Any thief can just put it in their bag, take it home and work on opening it at their leisure
"work on opening it"?
At least this lock box comes with a cable to tether it to something less movable, most lock boxes don't have this with this as an option. Although, looking at that cable, you could probably cut through it in less than a minute with a cheap pair of wire cutters.
Idea: Store your valuables in places other than this lockbox. Purchase a big brick of lead, and put it in the lockbox, along with a printed note containing your taunt of choice. When a thief steals the lockbox, they may not bother with taking anything else from your home (or at least steal fewer things), given how heavy and presumably full of valuables the lockbox must be. Once they get home and open the box, the thief may be prompted to reconsider their life choices.
As for the taunting note, personally I'm partial to a printed Word document with a winking Sans face and the message "geeettttttt dunked on!!!"
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter stick something heavy in it to give it some weight so it doesn't feel empty
@@paulstimpson830 That's what the brick of lead is for.
When I was around 11/12 years old I figured out many locks could open using the jiggle technique. I used to always carry nail clippers with me and the nail file that folded out from it was perfect for jiggling many file cabinets or even door cabinet locks and other very poorly pinned locks open. I was known by the teachers for being able to do it so easily that when they forgot their keys they would ask me to open it for them. This was back in like 6th grade in middle school. My science teacher needed my help the most. Even saved the day once to be able to feed the gerbils we had in the room. I think it was like 30 years ago or so now. Like around 91’ or 92’. Dang nab it I’m old and more advanced now. 😁 😎
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I fully agree. This device cons the user in thinking there is some security, while there is none. That screws up their risk management and hence makes them less secure.
"A thief doesn't need to spend time looking for your valuables, you conveniently put them all in one place for them."
Hear hear! This is why concealment always comes first and cover second. You can even get away with just the first. Can't steal what you can't find.
I always think of a story my ex-girlfriend told me about some "old family friends" (though this sounded suspiciously like herself and her twin sister, of course I was dating the messy one). Two sisters who lived in the same house, one was extremely tidy, had the most clean and organized bedroom. Other had no concept of organization and lived in a total disaster zone. At some point the house got robbed. Organized sister's valuables, in the exact place anyone would expect, were taken. Messy room was totally untouched, presumably robber took one look and said "big nope!"
@@quillmaurer6563 My first line of defense!
The only case in which cover beats concealment is when trying to avoid ballistic "impingement".
Remember kids: Bonuses from cover and concealment stack, so be sure to double up on these buffs and record their modifiers on the correct entries of your character sheet!
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Yeah, it's like the lock was open and the video was over before I even settled in to watch it.
And 1:20 is just narrative.
He's explaining and greeting longer than opening stuff 😂
I wonder how much Honeywell gave the school to endorse this product? I wonder if the school is legally liable for any lost items?
A well folded paper clip has opened many of these safes, desk drawers, and file cabinets for me. Amazing the money people will spend for false security.
I wonder how much of security is just for intimidation. That bald overweight guard sleeping on his shotgun is not going to do much
"Security Theater."
We pay *billions* for ineffective security. From TSA to crap locks, our security is only so good as 'bad guys' believe it to be.
@@TheStarMachine2000 and if you pick it fast enough he wont even bat an eye - assuming you are the legitimate key holder
@@baconwizard true enough
It beat my expectations - I was expecting you to slip the latch with a piece of Red Bull can.
Maybe LPL didn't have any red bull on hand at the time of recording?
Sooo then it will be a smart thing to rig up with a microswitch and a airhorn inside and put the valuable stuff elsewhere 👍🏻
Or a camera.
Or a glitter bomb and fart spray.
Or both.
Or just to waste a bit of extra time for the thief, but a properly made safe inside the bad safe :P
Now this I can get behind.
I’m guessing the school was required to recommend the safe as part of their Honeywell HVAC maintenance contract.
"Honeywell has made fantastic job proving that when it comes to security something isn't always better than nothing."
I think you should include a recommendation what to get instead. For example, instead of this product you could get a transparent zip bag. When you put any valuables inside such a bag, you absolutely know that you should hide that bag well.
Use this as a decoy safe. You can put your favourite snacks in there. Since it's the recommended safe, plus a funny plausible reason for using one, they might not look for the better hidden actual safe.
I would just put a meme inside. Like the infamous rick Astley 's shoe, the "circle finger" hand 👌, or the "no, you're getting robbed" from ASDF movie 😂
There's no way I'm putting my *favourite* snacks in there! Those thieves want to steal something? Fine, take a rice cake or something.
@@kecukraftwork1988 yeah but only thieves looking for valuables will try. The regular dorm student wouldn't be trying to get in, just looking for snacks. So the decoy safe, still serves a purpose. Besides if you just put something crummy in there, a theif could catch on to the trick.
Great idea, but booby trapped.
Drill some air holes and keep your pet snakes in it.
I was expecting LPL to smack it with a textbook based on the construction.
I wouldn't consider it an "easy exploit" if it requires a $250 tool though.
@@quillmaurer6563 🤣🤣🤣
sub 2 minute videos are always the best
I dont remember the model. but another honeywell "safe" that Lowes carried could be forced open by well... just turning the knob really hard
*oof*
Some of these safes should market as diversion safes. "Keep it in the open so the thief takes it and leaves your valuables!" But even diversions would need better resistance so the thief doesn't just open it on the spot in seconds (plural because I'm including the time it takes to select the tool).
The amount of movement on the lid when locked makes me think you could have defeated this with a butter knife.
In the Hulu show “The Patient”, Steve Carell’s character is chained to the floor with what appears to be a fairly basic lock. At one point early in the show, he fails to open the lock with a half-hearted pick attempt with a plastic fork. To be sure…you would have succeeded and been well on your way, cutting the show substantially short of a full season. Consider this a challenge! I suggest starting with a plastic fork, with the backup options being anything you see that is reasonably within his reach in the first couple of episodes.
Fingers crossed that you make this happen!
I love how you make your videos to the point and funny dry humor through and you added a plug for your tool without it sounding like a boring advertisement. Keep up the great work!
Honeywell must be having a hard time knowing that literally no security at all is better than their safe
They make plenty of moolah off of their pentagon pork contracts, they will never worry
I wonder what's going on with that cmpany. They seem to have a serious side to their business, arom airplane APU and cockpit displays to personal protective equipment.
And then license that same name to be used for absolute junk?
Brutal, and to think that Honeywell also put satellites into orbit
It's clear what they think is important.
If the engines are as well designed as the locks...
@@DaVoKanfr Same name, but very, very different divisions. Though if I were CEO of Honeywell I would sell the crappy divisions such as gang who made this "safe", so they no longer shame the "proud name" of the company.
But the probably make the profits
So, I was given as a gift when I was a kid a Sentry Fire-Proof safe, one of the small ones with a handle. After figuring out that my mailbox had a better lock in terms on picking I also found out the the tolerances were so bad on the hinges you could simply drop it on its corner and the lid would open... I never stored anything valuable in it.
Honestly going by how much play that dial has on it, along with the cheap wafer core, I'd reason a guess that even just some heavy-duty pliers secured onto the dial could wrench this open.
Thank you for keeping us concious
Something I learned over the years watching your videos is that if you take more than 1 minute to open a lock that lock is good enough for the everyday person. 2 minutes is a holy shit that lock it good. 3 minutes, is great gooogly mooogly WTF is that lock guarding.
This was recommend by a law school? 🤔 Is it just me or could this be a lawsuit waiting to happen? 🤣
The big irony
I think it's now "The American Way" to sue everybody (with money) for anything.😬
When I saw what passed for the key bitting, I realized it wasn't going to take much.
You really hit the nail on the head with the comment about all your valuables being in one place. That's how I lost a bunch of stuff I inherited from my dad, they just stole the whole ass safe
One has to wonder, when an organization recommends such and obviously flawed product, that it is because they know how to open it and plan to do so at their leisure.
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”
I'm more inclined to suspect they're getting a kickback from the manufacturer.
@@Sashazur The opposite is true in this world
@@Emptybee This was my thought also. The only way I could think that they would mention a specific product was if they were paid to do so.
@@ReynardFuchsmann Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
When you see the less than 2 min timestamp on a LPL video you know an absolute turd salad of a lock is getting ready to be exposed. Thank you LPL!
Love the expression in the title of the video and the way you used it in the video, I'm sure I'll be adding it to my repertoire, thank you.
I remember as a kid practicing on these type of locks was over the moon when I got into my safe easy but looking back I’m not surprised
I can nearly see that friend showing this video to the grad school. "So, that's one of the things you reccomend, huh?"
I've had a safe similar to this before. It could be opened just by turning the knob hard enough.
Crazy. Haven't they tested their products before selling them??
@@legendreoli in this safe's case, I'm willing to give them some benefit of the doubt. It was old when I first saw it and I don't know how much abuse it went through. All parts were in there though, and nothing was broken.
That said, the actuator was rubber and would bend pretty darn easily
My parents got me the same safe before I moved in to college. I use it for valuables but I have it hidden in my room that stays locked when I’m not there. It’s really just a convenient place to have it.
The day my parents gave it to me I looked at it and picked it open. I’ve thought about replacing the cylinder since it’s so cheap
Great point.
Put all of your valuables in one place.
One stop shopping!
Those keys! I've seen them before! If your lock, or strong-box, or whatever comes with those specific shaped keys, you know you've purchased worthless garbage. Heck, I defeated that type of lock with literally a cheap flat-head screwdriver and some muscle. Tore that cheap lock apart into tiny pieces. The lock itself is made from cheap junk pot-metal.
When your lockbox looks like something a child could pick open, you're doing something wrong.
I love it, it took you less then 2 minutes to tell a story, review a product, pick a lock twice while "demonstrating" how it's done and then offer assistance or a QnA if needed. 🤯
"Something isn't always better than nothing." Very true statement!!!!!
Concerned consumer: “What safe should I buy?”
Education establishment: “This one will do, I guess.”
Hell, the way that dial flexed when you lifted the locked lid tells me brute force would likely be quicker...
Thanks to LPL, when I moved into my new apartment, I actually checked to make sure my keys weren't interchangeable with my neighbors. 😅
"Something isn't always better than nothing", and now I want a T-Shirt with that slogan.
I know someone with one of the honey well safes, it's harder to pick it back to being locked than it is to unlock it
I noticed that he used the key to re-lock it, one of very few times we've seen him actually use a key.
Maybe it's a manufacturing flaw, they installed the lock backwards 😂
"wait, are we 'nothing' to you?" - MasterLock
LPL with the ABUS-powered .50 Cal: "Always has been."
"We thought we had something special between us" 🥺
I enjoy the conciseness of your videos.
I love that the actual key was used to re-lock the safe. I understand why, but it does also give the comedic impression that it'd be less convenient to lock the safe with the jiggler than it was to unlock.
Wonder if anyone else has noticed that with the name as well:
So close to Honey Pot... It's a Trap!
Next, we will see him just open swiss banks around the world
i think those are mainly in switzerland, not around the world
This looks very similar to the ignition locks on many construction lifts. I discovered that if the key were missing, I could use a small padlock key that I always keep on my key ring to jiggle the lock on.
Conveniently placed all valuables together.
I laughed my brain out🤣
Husband to wife: "Can you give me my wallet from the safe?"
Wife: "Honey, well..."
Get out.
Shoot, I was just about to make a similar joke. Darn...
Rotfl 🤣
"Son, not yor place to make that joke"
Reminds me of the RAY STEVENS song "DOCTOR, DOCTOR."
A line in the chorus goes... "DOCTOR, YOUR CURE IS WORSE THAN MY DISEASE!"
Or the side effects compared to the cure from all the pharmaceutical products on TV. "Cures baldness (side effects may be, but are not limited to, cancer, epilepsy, heart attacks, vomiting, diarrhea , uncontrolled bleeding from every orifice, death, and hair loss).
@@JCWren EGG-SACKLY!!!
Honeywell - Treating thieves to your golden valuables.
The irony, honey and Well.
Thanks LPL
Honeywell, the secret step child of Master Lock.
This is why, when you don't know, you should say "I don't know", rather than put out some awful purchaser advice.
Unless Honeywell is paying you, and then list their entire catalog.
Even Masterlock didn't get such a compliment; "Worse than nothing"
I once did the same thing with a used file cabinet that didn't have a key to, but I happened to have a key which fit into the lock cylinder. I just jiggled the key I had on hand to defeat that lock and it took 30 seconds or less to get past it. Job done. These wafer locks are almost as bad as a Schlage door lock from the 1980s.
Reminded me of our high school lockers. All, circa 600 of them had the same type of key. And I thought it would be funny to show my classmates how to bump and rake them, using key of their own locker. That way, you could open around 40 out of 100 lockers under 5 seconds. They never stole anything, rather left the unsuspecting person a surprise, such as fire extinguishers, garbage bins, old mouldy bread in a lockbag etc.
Brilliant! *That's* the sort of practical joke I approve of!
@@softweirImagine this, you are so hungry you could eat whole cow, you open your locker just to see your laces pulled out of your shoes. Happened to almost everyone in my class at some point 😂
Great video
it just released
@@frankthetoaster vid is so short that 'just released' == already viewed.
Good Advice LPL. Cheers 🇨🇦
As someone who used to work for HoneyHell, it brings me great pleasure to see you roast their crap product.
When I was young, my parents bought my 2 brothers and I an older version of the same box. Even worse than having an easily pickable lock, one of my brothers and my box share the exact same key pattern. As far as I know, no one has ever tried to pick the lock, but my brother has definitely waltzed right into my room with his own key and snooped around.
Not sure how that happened, you'd think that they would vary their locks enough that two boxes bought at the same time from the same store would use different keys, but nope!
Another piece of garbage safe…
I’d love to see what LPL recommends!
That would be a service to his viewers.
Anything with "TL-15" on it should suffice.
@@DanBowkley looked at the TL-15 safes … a bit pricey and heavy for my budget and muscle to move… $2000 and 500 lbs at least…
I know you get what you pay for and they look great… but I was thinking of something a bit lower cost and lighter that I could bolt down someplace
This reminds me of a lock box I had as a teen. I would pick it open with the small “punch” accessory on my pocketknife.
Always a treat 🇺🇸
This is almost as easy to open as the small metal toy safes for children.
This is an important part of any good security setup. You fill it with worthless things that appear valuable as a trap so they think they have your stuff but what they actually have is just a bunch of plastic jewelery and a calculator with a gps tag in it.
At least your covert companion goes together. Mine doesn’t. As soon as you started adding accessories mine never went back together. PLEASE have a COMPLETE covert companion video and show us how is done. Mine is just in pieces. Thanks LPL!
That is the perfect hide for Glitter Bomb. Doesn't necessarily stop the thief, but definitely makes him/her easier to recognize.
Would be interesting to have LPL pick the lock at Mar-a-Lago that protected the room guarding classified American secrets.
Unbelivable. I can't believe they can sell this stuff.
Maybe LPL should do a "just rolled in" with locks:
"This customer brought in his lock and key and says he has trouble opening the lock" (LPL discovers he was using the wrong key...)
"Customer refused the work for a new key to be cut"
😅
1:15 Honeywell PR using this quote: “Honeywell seems to have done a fantastic job” - The LockPockingLawyer
"Honeywell seems to have done a fantastic job [...] when it comes to security" - LPL
Just like stamping TOP SECRET on the cover of documents is a great help to spies!
"This is great to secure laptops, mobile phones, etc." - Any thief that doesn't like a challenge.
Is it ever a fluke?
I dont think the point of that is to convince regular viewers. Its to convince people who arent familiar with the channel and probably came to a video to see a review of one specific product they were considering purchasing
It's always, *always* a fluke. Until it's proven otherwise. Sorta a Schrodinger's Cat situation. If he *doesn't* do it twice, it's *obviously* just a lucky hit, and the internet will never let him hear the end of it. Best to open that cat's box and prove the thing is dead right away.
Ah Honeywell. Might as well wear a big sign that says 'Bullseye.'
I bought a cashbox made by Honeywell and sold at Target for like $16. before I got my starter kit from LPL's store I was curious about how easy it was to break into the thing. Using the smaller rounded end of a paperclip I was able to open the lock just by jiggling it in there for a second or two. It's about as fast as using the key, and I was able to lock it using the same method. Glad I didn't buy the thing for it's safety features
Let me guess, Honeywell outsourced the design of this safe to Masterlock ?
Honeywell has always been the Masterlock of products. The only honeywell product that mostly works are their thermostats. Its pretty hard to screw up two wires attached to a thermal switch.
I wouldn't even expect MasterLock to be this bad.
In computer security, we have a concept called honey pot. This could actually fulfill the same role in the real world. And the name of the brand was so close too!
Honeywell used to make computers!
@@johndododoe1411 That is sad. But it would explain why they have no idea about physical locks.
great video...as always !!!
I had one of these. You can actually take hinge pin out of the hinge even when it's locked. Look for a little hole on the side
Hmmm, Master Lock appears to have competition for the quickest opening...