main issues that I find with retro laptops is poor screen quality. SBEMU sorted a lot of the sound issues if you have a supported chipset, but the screen bleeding or poor refresh/ghosting is horrid to deal with. Ofc you can use external display.
Active matrix LCD and thumping JBL speakers! In school I found a Presario 1210 with dim backlight and, once replaced, the passive LCD was terrible. Thing was still a champion for abuse. By the time it was retired for the second time it had 40GB HDD, CD burner, and most of the letters had worn off the keyboard. $5 mix CDs funded a Thinkpad 600x pretty quickly ;-)
Make sure to try the final driver (Phil has it on his site). It's from 2002 for Windows ME but installs fine on 98se. Definitely much better than the included Rage Pro driver on Windows.
I have one and it has many positives for retro, definitely. I had one issue which I’m wondering if you did. When the CPU goes idle on mine there’s a high pitched noise that drives me absolutely nuts. Just moving the mouse makes the CPU usage go up enough to make it stop but sure enough, stop for a second and it’s back
ouch yes that would be annoying! the idle power whine sounds a bit more like the fault of power circuitry on the mainboard have you tried disabling any power management features in windows? it might give some relief but it does sound like you potentially have some investigation to do on the motherboard
Of course not, laptops were terribad in the past, and even worse for gaming. Nobody used them unless it was really necessary for travel Even today laptops are still not great for gaming, although they are now good for business work.
we used to use laptops for playing WoW and CSS at lan parties all the time in early 2000's, I can think of several great examples. Yes, generally speaking they werent/arent as good at gaming than desktops of similar value but there is something to be said for not having to carry a CRT monitor around with you to your mates place.
@@krauterz yes this illustrates my point, they were crap, so every gamer had a decent desktop at home, but if necessary, (travel) people would occasionally use the laptop for some multiplayer fun, trading performance for human opponents. also Wow CS:S was 2004 or more likely 2005 or 2006, so that's already a different world compared to this 1999 example
@@Blackadder75 you're forgetting the realities of vintage gaming. Many vintage gamers now have a wife and children, and limited space in their home. Their spouse would frown upon a full desktop and CRT setup that would only be occasionally used. So laptops are a good alternative.
@@FlyingDutchman19801 hmm, not convinced, that scenario is very unlikely. If your hobby is vintage gaming on original hardware , you can make some space for it, you don't need a dedicated man cave just for a vintage PC..... you wouldn't handicap yourself on trash hardware. Spending a few hours working out a nice storage system that the whole family can life with would be more than worth it. And if you are not that dedicated to the original hardware, you could just use dosbox on a newer system.
it's an interesting topic - I reckon there is a use case for the old laptop, but it's far from the ultimate retro experience. I used to repair a lot of these units back in the day (for a living) so for me there's a bit of extra nostalgia, maybe I am biased :-)
For Quake II, there was an AMD 3DNow! optimized version that helped quite a bit (IIRC) on those K6-2 CPUs.
i love including the green guide add to get some context of the time. Great video.
main issues that I find with retro laptops is poor screen quality. SBEMU sorted a lot of the sound issues if you have a supported chipset, but the screen bleeding or poor refresh/ghosting is horrid to deal with. Ofc you can use external display.
Active matrix LCD and thumping JBL speakers! In school I found a Presario 1210 with dim backlight and, once replaced, the passive LCD was terrible.
Thing was still a champion for abuse. By the time it was retired for the second time it had 40GB HDD, CD burner, and most of the letters had worn off the keyboard. $5 mix CDs funded a Thinkpad 600x pretty quickly ;-)
Enjoyed your video! TY for making it!
thank you! i have a few more laptop videos coming soon :)
Make sure to try the final driver (Phil has it on his site). It's from 2002 for Windows ME but installs fine on 98se. Definitely much better than the included Rage Pro driver on Windows.
I have one and it has many positives for retro, definitely. I had one issue which I’m wondering if you did. When the CPU goes idle on mine there’s a high pitched noise that drives me absolutely nuts. Just moving the mouse makes the CPU usage go up enough to make it stop but sure enough, stop for a second and it’s back
ouch yes that would be annoying!
the idle power whine sounds a bit more like the fault of power circuitry on the mainboard
have you tried disabling any power management features in windows? it might give some relief but it does sound like you potentially have some investigation to do on the motherboard
I wonder if it'd take a K6-II+/III+.
It does indeed
Siempre quise una pero no podia comprarla en la epoca en que salió :(
yes, unaffordable when new - I even had staff discount and still couldnt afford it!
1:30 yeah these days nobody would make special keys for AI features like Copilot+... oh wait!
Great👍
Of course not, laptops were terribad in the past, and even worse for gaming. Nobody used them unless it was really necessary for travel
Even today laptops are still not great for gaming, although they are now good for business work.
we used to use laptops for playing WoW and CSS at lan parties all the time in early 2000's, I can think of several great examples. Yes, generally speaking they werent/arent as good at gaming than desktops of similar value but there is something to be said for not having to carry a CRT monitor around with you to your mates place.
@@krauterz yes this illustrates my point, they were crap, so every gamer had a decent desktop at home, but if necessary, (travel) people would occasionally use the laptop for some multiplayer fun, trading performance for human opponents.
also Wow CS:S was 2004 or more likely 2005 or 2006, so that's already a different world compared to this 1999 example
@@Blackadder75 you're forgetting the realities of vintage gaming. Many vintage gamers now have a wife and children, and limited space in their home. Their spouse would frown upon a full desktop and CRT setup that would only be occasionally used. So laptops are a good alternative.
@@FlyingDutchman19801 hmm, not convinced, that scenario is very unlikely. If your hobby is vintage gaming on original hardware , you can make some space for it, you don't need a dedicated man cave just for a vintage PC..... you wouldn't handicap yourself on trash hardware.
Spending a few hours working out a nice storage system that the whole family can life with would be more than worth it.
And if you are not that dedicated to the original hardware, you could just use dosbox on a newer system.
it's an interesting topic - I reckon there is a use case for the old laptop, but it's far from the ultimate retro experience. I used to repair a lot of these units back in the day (for a living) so for me there's a bit of extra nostalgia, maybe I am biased :-)