Here in Australia re-sellers have bought up everything maybe a few years ago. There’s literally nothing in second hand stores or garage sales anymore. eBay prices are way too high and the retro stores here are expensive too. Every now and again resellers here will come across a treasure trove of games but still they want the seller to drop their prices even more, that’s a crappy thing to do but that’s how they feed there own gaming addiction. Again this is why I buy repro games and if people want to say that I’m a fake collector then go for it coz end of the day I’m saving heaps of money.
Dang. I thought it US had it bad. I remember some of the mega drive listings in your videos and they were going for insane prices. As for those repros, I'm glad I found your channel. There are so many things you can do with them that actually makes collecting games even better. Translations, romhacks, and even customization are made essily accessible all thanks to them
Im out too, im emulating, theres a few things im still collecting for, like imports but sadly those prices are skyrocketing as well cause its about the $ not about the gameplay. As well its a cult mindset with these people literally do some research. Can you imagine someone like phoenix saying "Well im actually helping the hobby...." then insert some made up reason that doesn't even make sense. These people are sick in the head. Im just out of it alot of deception and mental illness in the hobby as well and not putting up with it anymore.
Phoenix resale made an app to sell games on and he spent over 100k to make it, this is why he has been raising his prices to help cover the price of the app.
Have you ever used the Amazon seller app and checked how listing in there works? Like on eBay it tells you how much something goes for new and used. The only difference is that overwll on Amazon stuff is just more expensive and it’s not specific to games either. It’s also a lot harder to become a seller on there for certain categories because they hold much higher standards. Same reason why you’ll see him change which games he is willing to buy because like on any other market place the prices go up and down he has nothing to do with that.
Sadly getting out of retro game collecting was one of the best decisions I ever made. It truly is a scumbag hobby though I wish that were not the case.
To be fair to DK Oldies, they have a much larger inventory than eBay sellers and can’t photograph every single game. They do break it down into categories of completion and categories of damage. So you do have some idea of what you’re getting even if there’s no photo. It would be difficult to track which specific copy of the game you got versus having the games organized into their categories and they just pick up your purchase off the appropriate shelf. I’m not a fan of DK, but I did buy a couple of games from them to test them out and to their credit, the games were in acceptable condition.
I feel some of what you are saying. However Reselling got me into the hobby. ALso I love the concept of trading, reselling, etc to build my budget for expensive games.. Some collectors were happy when prices spiked because they sold their games they collected but did not play and made alot of money. Also some that are into collecting anything arent hoarders and also like to flip stuff they collect for profit so increase in prices creates competition in the market and builds money on items. Alot of this just depends on how you look at it and how you navigate it. The only games I collect seem to be expensive ones because I like obscure and RPG. Im not wealthy at all but I love the journey of flipping games for profit to eventually get the games I want. In fact in my newest series where Im going for Panzer Dragoon Saga it has increased by 200 dollars since it started and Im not complaining and to me it doesnt make the hobby a problem rather it makes the hobby more valuable and exciting to be a part of. Once again this all depends on how you look at things
Or just capitalism in general, or to butter it up, "free" and "unregulated" capitalism, meaning anyone can abuse a system for the benefit of profit than fun
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца There is NO other kind of capitalism. Why do people keep modifying the word as if there is another kind? It's a system DESIGNED to be abused by those with power and wealth.
Comparing current prices to those at a piece of hardwares release is kind of an apples and oranges argument to make. When the consoles were released, they were new, readily available, and were about 30 years away from the market demands of nostalgic collectors. There are far fewer of the consoles now, hence adding being subject to the law of supply and demand to the equation. I will grant that some resellers are slimeballs in terms of how they acquire their supply, but at day's end, a game, console, book, or whatever you are selling is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. I resell now and then, and I tend to charge only enough to profit while still being under market value because that is how you build good will with your customers, but not everyone shares that approach.
And case after the right price is also a ripoff because they make so much money that they go to conventions buying all the Mario and other games people want most they get to go in one hour before the General Public has a chance at a fair price
You don’t want to be a drama channel yet this seems to be the second call out video. I do agree as and eBay and Amazon seller that I’ve seen some crazy prices. I do thrifting, wholesale, Retail and Online arbitrage. When I sell something it is at market value. Many times I have undercut my competitors because they had it too high and guess what? I got the sale because it’s a price people are willing to pay and it still makes my business grow and I take care of my family. It’s the same for brick and mortar. You buy low and sell for market. It’s crazy how some stuff sells for 100’s or thousands yes.
Selling fees are much higher with amazon not to mention its usual a lot faster for the buyers to buy from there then ebay not to mention amazon is strikecked on limiting sellers who are allowed to sell on amazon under media which is entirely buissness sellers ebay its everyone's market
Not only that, but these games are widely available for free or pennies on dollar via emulation. It's never been a better time in history to play these classic games and have it be affordable. It's like getting mad that you can't afford a Rolex when other affordable watch brands exist that also tell time lol
Cry about it. All these games can literally be played for free on an emulator these days. If you want to play classic games on console via a licensed physical copy, get out your wallet. These are more than just video games. They are history and collectible items that are out of production. This naturally increases their value.
by the way my new series will be showing me reselling games for the purpose of giving them away to people that think they cant get games.. I wouldnt be able to do it if I wasnt saavy enough in getting deals.. Should the collectors complain when I can find deals and give them away? No everyone wins.. I still think your video was very fair even though I disagree with some points but you showed humility and strived to be honest
same people saying stop crying about a 20-30 year old game priced at $60 or higher will be the same people crying about AAA games being way to expensive nowadays. Make it make sense.
If anything, those same people supporting these ludicrous prices will probably repeat the cycle by selling current AAA games at even more ridiculous prices years later on.
While I agree the way they go about acquiring their shit is shady, the way they go about selling things isn’t (unless you’re DK Oldies). Most of them just sell on established marketplaces, but it’s deceptive ways they get their stuff that’s the issue. However that doesn’t drive up cost alone that merely hurts the individual they did shady shit to. DK oldies doesn’t represent market price and uses shady practices like fake sales prices and paying for advertisement to trick people before they’ve had a chance to find cheaper prices. I feel like your point would’ve come across better if you separated them better. Criticizing the RUclipsrs for acquiring their stuff in really shady ways makes total sense but the prices they sell their stuff at doesn’t. They don’t sell like DK Oldies and half of the time they’re comparable to the platform they’re on. The RUclipsrs also don’t contribute to rising prices as let’s be honest the collectors buying this stuff up are telling them with cold hard cash they’ll pay. I collect games too, I refuse to pay some of these stupid prices but as long as people on the internet are willing to pay $250 for a loose copy of Pokemon emerald you can’t be mad at the dude selling it for $250, he’s just tryna to make his money and get by.
I always try to find any game below CIB or at best CIB and preferably i wont get the same game twice cause i want to collect the games but im not really into getting profits and i do want to play em. A few decades from now if i am lucky to be alive by than, il probably might sell as i would be getting old and i wont be able to take em to the grave. I think pretty much any game i collect now will increase in price and i will make my money back and than some regardless. currently i am focusing on getting ps3 games as we are at that threshold before they all spike(some already have). ps1 and ps2 i can find an occasional deal but that ship has long since passed (thanks to these guys ^). ps4 is probably the cheapest you can get right now with the ps5 out and about. as for ps5...yeah this gen sucks.
This is a rerun of the same video you already did in order to gain views and make money. Doesn’t that mean you are making money out of overpriced game sellers now too? When Retrogames started back in 1995 (were you born then 😆) I predicted that games collecting would become the same as toy collecting, and I was right. You lay into games sellers, but what about vintage toy sellers, pushing Star Wars toys up to crazy sums, or comic dealers, or baseball card sellers. It’s quite simple, as things get older, they get harder to find. As things get rarer, values rise, doesn’t matter what it is, from c64 games to David Bowie LPs, it’s just how things have always been. Despite me disagreeing with you, I still wish you’d shown our site on your video, not just as we were the first vintage game seller, but cos we’ve got some super rare stuff at crazy prices that would surely blow your mind 😂😂😂
same im going to emulation too, bro you can tell how F$#@% people are in the retro community, when they literally nearly threaten to turn you into authorities for saying your doing emulation now. Thats how F$#@%^ the community has gotten with their shelf collecting.
@@CanadianFitted you’re bring personal vendetta to something because you have personal attachement to it You all are crying about the video games most these games been around for 15 plus years you had plenty of times to pick up. And no one is telling you buying anything from them
@@iSaidStanback "You all are crying about video games." The loudest people in the comment are people defending the resellers and their high prices. You could go ahead and continue your condescending demeanor but no one in your camp has actually made any good counter points. Just now you just resorted to personal attacks and yet expect to be taken serious.
You do realize that reseller inventory accounts for likely less than .1% of all available copies of a game available on the market right? Like you're yelling at a cup of water being thrown in the ocean for the sake of clicks and it's pretty sad.
Are you dumb? Every reseller knows that games are bread and butter items. It will die eventually though, when there’s something bigger for them to jump onto and suck the life out of.
Here in Australia re-sellers have bought up everything maybe a few years ago. There’s literally nothing in second hand stores or garage sales anymore. eBay prices are way too high and the retro stores here are expensive too. Every now and again resellers here will come across a treasure trove of games but still they want the seller to drop their prices even more, that’s a crappy thing to do but that’s how they feed there own gaming addiction. Again this is why I buy repro games and if people want to say that I’m a fake collector then go for it coz end of the day I’m saving heaps of money.
Dang. I thought it US had it bad. I remember some of the mega drive listings in your videos and they were going for insane prices.
As for those repros, I'm glad I found your channel. There are so many things you can do with them that actually makes collecting games even better. Translations, romhacks, and even customization are made essily accessible all thanks to them
Im out too, im emulating, theres a few things im still collecting for, like imports but sadly those prices are skyrocketing as well cause its about the $ not about the gameplay. As well its a cult mindset with these people literally do some research. Can you imagine someone like phoenix saying "Well im actually helping the hobby...." then insert some made up reason that doesn't even make sense. These people are sick in the head. Im just out of it alot of deception and mental illness in the hobby as well and not putting up with it anymore.
Was shocked to see my comment in your video :D keep up the great work
Phoenix resale made an app to sell games on and he spent over 100k to make it, this is why he has been raising his prices to help cover the price of the app.
Have you ever used the Amazon seller app and checked how listing in there works? Like on eBay it tells you how much something goes for new and used. The only difference is that overwll on Amazon stuff is just more expensive and it’s not specific to games either. It’s also a lot harder to become a seller on there for certain categories because they hold much higher standards. Same reason why you’ll see him change which games he is willing to buy because like on any other market place the prices go up and down he has nothing to do with that.
Sadly getting out of retro game collecting was one of the best decisions I ever made. It truly is a scumbag hobby though I wish that were not the case.
sadly it has gone that way, im getting into other hobbies as well
@@BanditsBest686sadly i may be beginning to understand where this hobby is going
@@FullBeardSk8 whats that beard?
To be fair to DK Oldies, they have a much larger inventory than eBay sellers and can’t photograph every single game. They do break it down into categories of completion and categories of damage. So you do have some idea of what you’re getting even if there’s no photo. It would be difficult to track which specific copy of the game you got versus having the games organized into their categories and they just pick up your purchase off the appropriate shelf. I’m not a fan of DK, but I did buy a couple of games from them to test them out and to their credit, the games were in acceptable condition.
To add to this: I’ve bought games on eBay that look better in the photo than they do in person, so eBay isn’t perfect.
I feel some of what you are saying. However Reselling got me into the hobby. ALso I love the concept of trading, reselling, etc to build my budget for expensive games.. Some collectors were happy when prices spiked because they sold their games they collected but did not play and made alot of money. Also some that are into collecting anything arent hoarders and also like to flip stuff they collect for profit so increase in prices creates competition in the market and builds money on items. Alot of this just depends on how you look at it and how you navigate it. The only games I collect seem to be expensive ones because I like obscure and RPG. Im not wealthy at all but I love the journey of flipping games for profit to eventually get the games I want. In fact in my newest series where Im going for Panzer Dragoon Saga it has increased by 200 dollars since it started and Im not complaining and to me it doesnt make the hobby a problem rather it makes the hobby more valuable and exciting to be a part of. Once again this all depends on how you look at things
Ahh the consequences of unfettered capitalism
Or just capitalism in general, or to butter it up, "free" and "unregulated" capitalism, meaning anyone can abuse a system for the benefit of profit than fun
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца There is NO other kind of capitalism. Why do people keep modifying the word as if there is another kind? It's a system DESIGNED to be abused by those with power and wealth.
Comparing current prices to those at a piece of hardwares release is kind of an apples and oranges argument to make. When the consoles were released, they were new, readily available, and were about 30 years away from the market demands of nostalgic collectors. There are far fewer of the consoles now, hence adding being subject to the law of supply and demand to the equation. I will grant that some resellers are slimeballs in terms of how they acquire their supply, but at day's end, a game, console, book, or whatever you are selling is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. I resell now and then, and I tend to charge only enough to profit while still being under market value because that is how you build good will with your customers, but not everyone shares that approach.
And case after the right price is also a ripoff because they make so much money that they go to conventions buying all the Mario and other games people want most they get to go in one hour before the General Public has a chance at a fair price
You don’t want to be a drama channel yet this seems to be the second call out video. I do agree as and eBay and Amazon seller that I’ve seen some crazy prices. I do thrifting, wholesale, Retail and Online arbitrage. When I sell something it is at market value. Many times I have undercut my competitors because they had it too high and guess what? I got the sale because it’s a price people are willing to pay and it still makes my business grow and I take care of my family. It’s the same for brick and mortar. You buy low and sell for market. It’s crazy how some stuff sells for 100’s or thousands yes.
You’re just a POS with extra steps.
Selling fees are much higher with amazon not to mention its usual a lot faster for the buyers to buy from there then ebay not to mention amazon is strikecked on limiting sellers who are allowed to sell on amazon under media which is entirely buissness sellers ebay its everyone's market
Enjoyed the video man! Keep it up
They are running the business you don't have to buy anything from them
Not only that, but these games are widely available for free or pennies on dollar via emulation. It's never been a better time in history to play these classic games and have it be affordable. It's like getting mad that you can't afford a Rolex when other affordable watch brands exist that also tell time lol
Cry about it. All these games can literally be played for free on an emulator these days. If you want to play classic games on console via a licensed physical copy, get out your wallet. These are more than just video games. They are history and collectible items that are out of production. This naturally increases their value.
Yes, it has. If you had a couple brain cells to bang together you would know that that had nothing to do with the video
by the way my new series will be showing me reselling games for the purpose of giving them away to people that think they cant get games.. I wouldnt be able to do it if I wasnt saavy enough in getting deals.. Should the collectors complain when I can find deals and give them away? No everyone wins.. I still think your video was very fair even though I disagree with some points but you showed humility and strived to be honest
He cant afford a game thats why he bashes collectors lmao
You probably spit on homeless people.
Keep up the good work 👍🏽👍🏽
same people saying stop crying about a 20-30 year old game priced at $60 or higher will be the same people crying about AAA games being way to expensive nowadays. Make it make sense.
If anything, those same people supporting these ludicrous prices will probably repeat the cycle by selling current AAA games at even more ridiculous prices years later on.
@@HectorPryorYTThey don't actually own the games
This guy is definitely on the spectrum
Yep, I pay 50 dollars monthly for 300 gigs of speed.
While I agree the way they go about acquiring their shit is shady, the way they go about selling things isn’t (unless you’re DK Oldies). Most of them just sell on established marketplaces, but it’s deceptive ways they get their stuff that’s the issue. However that doesn’t drive up cost alone that merely hurts the individual they did shady shit to.
DK oldies doesn’t represent market price and uses shady practices like fake sales prices and paying for advertisement to trick people before they’ve had a chance to find cheaper prices.
I feel like your point would’ve come across better if you separated them better. Criticizing the RUclipsrs for acquiring their stuff in really shady ways makes total sense but the prices they sell their stuff at doesn’t. They don’t sell like DK Oldies and half of the time they’re comparable to the platform they’re on.
The RUclipsrs also don’t contribute to rising prices as let’s be honest the collectors buying this stuff up are telling them with cold hard cash they’ll pay. I collect games too, I refuse to pay some of these stupid prices but as long as people on the internet are willing to pay $250 for a loose copy of Pokemon emerald you can’t be mad at the dude selling it for $250, he’s just tryna to make his money and get by.
Hit it right on the nail my friend
I always try to find any game below CIB or at best CIB and preferably i wont get the same game twice cause i want to collect the games but im not really into getting profits and i do want to play em.
A few decades from now if i am lucky to be alive by than, il probably might sell as i would be getting old and i wont be able to take em to the grave.
I think pretty much any game i collect now will increase in price and i will make my money back and than some regardless.
currently i am focusing on getting ps3 games as we are at that threshold before they all spike(some already have). ps1 and ps2 i can find an occasional deal but that ship has long since passed (thanks to these guys ^).
ps4 is probably the cheapest you can get right now with the ps5 out and about. as for ps5...yeah this gen sucks.
This logic is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. comparing famicon to US. lol just stop.
This is a rerun of the same video you already did in order to gain views and make money. Doesn’t that mean you are making money out of overpriced game sellers now too? When Retrogames started back in 1995 (were you born then 😆) I predicted that games collecting would become the same as toy collecting, and I was right. You lay into games sellers, but what about vintage toy sellers, pushing Star Wars toys up to crazy sums, or comic dealers, or baseball card sellers. It’s quite simple, as things get older, they get harder to find. As things get rarer, values rise, doesn’t matter what it is, from c64 games to David Bowie LPs, it’s just how things have always been. Despite me disagreeing with you, I still wish you’d shown our site on your video, not just as we were the first vintage game seller, but cos we’ve got some super rare stuff at crazy prices that would surely blow your mind 😂😂😂
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Scalpers are ruining more than just game collecting. It really sucks, but that’s why Ive turned to emulation 🙃loved the video btw
same im going to emulation too, bro you can tell how F$#@% people are in the retro community, when they literally nearly threaten to turn you into authorities for saying your doing emulation now. Thats how F$#@%^ the community has gotten with their shelf collecting.
Thank you. I appreciate the support
you find these at swap meets for 5$ each
I wish I had your luck.
Please let us know where you can find half of these games for $5.
I'd travel there to find thes insane deals.
@@pseudohippie55I find stuff all the time
You make no sense, they are running a business, they have cost to cover , stop crying brother
Poaching kids game and toys collections and upselling them was never a viable business, get a real job 👍
@@CanadianFittedif they pay taxes then what do you classify as real Job working for company that pays you shitty wage ??
@@iSaidStanback Something that brings a sliver of value of society lool, McDonalds workers bring more to a country than a scammer.
@@CanadianFitted you’re bring personal vendetta to something because you have personal attachement to it
You all are crying about the video games
most these games been around for 15 plus years you had plenty of times to pick up. And no one is telling you buying anything from them
@@iSaidStanback "You all are crying about video games."
The loudest people in the comment are people defending the resellers and their high prices. You could go ahead and continue your condescending demeanor but no one in your camp has actually made any good counter points. Just now you just resorted to personal attacks and yet expect to be taken serious.
You do realize that reseller inventory accounts for likely less than .1% of all available copies of a game available on the market right? Like you're yelling at a cup of water being thrown in the ocean for the sake of clicks and it's pretty sad.
lol
wrong
Are you dumb? Every reseller knows that games are bread and butter items. It will die eventually though, when there’s something bigger for them to jump onto and suck the life out of.
@@FullBeardSk8 cant argue with that logic
@@DynamoVideoGames 😂 this actually made me laugh. u still wrong though
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@@HectorPryorYT 🥓