Seattle Kraken CEO talks possible Sonics return

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @theFORCEismyallie
    @theFORCEismyallie Год назад +112

    I'm a Lakers fan and I would like to see the Sonics back in the NBA. Seattle should never have lost their team to OKC in the first place.

    • @principalmcvicker6530
      @principalmcvicker6530 Год назад +14

      "I got the booze she got the chronic, the lakers beat the supersonics"

    • @leythonlopez-ty5dm
      @leythonlopez-ty5dm Год назад +4

      Tell that to ok fans

    • @caidendaniel24
      @caidendaniel24 Год назад +3

      Jesus saves ❤

    • @Dweller415
      @Dweller415 Год назад +2

      OKC had an arena and a buyer for the Sonics.
      Seattle had a bunch of moronic politicians, Howard Schultz and the Sonics were playing in front of small crowds.

    • @ErlingEra
      @ErlingEra Год назад +3

      2024🙏🏼🟢🟡

  • @rentfree2377
    @rentfree2377 Год назад +128

    Worked on the arena, from a big hole in the ground until it was built. Blueprints have large spaces(currently empty rooms) labeled as “NBA locker rooms” both home and away. They absolutely planned on the SuperSonics returning.

    • @luishernandez05
      @luishernandez05 Год назад +8

      That was a fun project I was on it too

    • @davidnguyen270
      @davidnguyen270 Год назад +4

      Wow. That's an Awesome peice of information

    • @mostbestjia627
      @mostbestjia627 Год назад +1

      😮 thanks for sharing

    • @saraleila773
      @saraleila773 Год назад +2

      😃 Wow! Sweet! 💚💛💚

    • @koimatai4600
      @koimatai4600 Год назад +3

      I did too bro I worked with cives good company it was mind blowing thinking of all the Sonics games I went to as a kid to that were coming back bro believe it 💪🏽💯

  • @derpy.1
    @derpy.1 Год назад +56

    Once Seattle comes back, those games against the Thunder are gonna be FUCKING LOUD

    • @splashnskillz37
      @splashnskillz37 Год назад +8

      This rivalry will be so lit

    • @ChevyLS1454
      @ChevyLS1454 10 месяцев назад +1

      For Seattle maybe but Oklahomans can careless.

    • @georgeleavitt4487
      @georgeleavitt4487 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@ChevyLS1454nah that’s like saying Baltimore doesn’t care about browns rivalry, okc still west coast so they’ll play games frequently

    • @Kudeghraw
      @Kudeghraw 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ChevyLS1454 When OKC dropped their final game to the Mavs, ending their #1 seeded playoff run, you cared. You know its real as it has bitten OKC multiple times. The curse of the Seattle Supersonics.

  • @bball3048mm
    @bball3048mm Год назад +74

    Not an NHL fan but will support the Kraken for making the return of the NBA in Seattle a possibility.

    • @algrundau9441
      @algrundau9441 Год назад +8

      "Not an NHL Fan???"....The Kraken are killing it in the playoffs. how can you not be a fan?

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs Год назад +3

      @@algrundau9441 they might not watch nhl

    • @JHockeyFan
      @JHockeyFan Год назад +3

      @@0fficialdregsThey should

    • @0fficialdregs
      @0fficialdregs Год назад +4

      @@JHockeyFan agree

  • @tahuyachris
    @tahuyachris Год назад +12

    I'm grateful Tom brought hockey to Seattle! I am now a hockey because of the Kraken! I hope the Sonics come back soon.

    • @TOCC50
      @TOCC50 11 месяцев назад

      Why don’t blacks like hockey

  • @ChesterWilsonJr
    @ChesterWilsonJr Год назад +61

    Bring the Seattle Supersonics back to the NBA next season

    • @squidMB
      @squidMB Год назад +11

      I’d give it 3-5 years personally, but would love to be wrong and see it announced sooner

  • @MrBreezeLI516
    @MrBreezeLI516 Год назад +21

    Not even from Seattle but bring them back baby!! The world is a sucker for a story about wrongs being " righted" 👊🏻

    • @TOCC50
      @TOCC50 11 месяцев назад

      Blacks don’t like hockey because they’re prejudiced

  • @jesphermacaliag1551
    @jesphermacaliag1551 Год назад +7

    Im a Supersonics fan because of NBA 2k, I'm a Filipino, and i want the Seattle Supersonics back in NBA! Man i want them back so bad, please make it happen Adam

  • @scottbogen1168
    @scottbogen1168 Год назад +20

    I went to a game this season where the CEO spoke to the crowd, “We’re gonna bring the Sonics back to Seattle.” He may have been playing to the crowd a little, but it felt like there was no uncertainty in his voice.

    • @WWaduheky
      @WWaduheky Год назад

      He has openly said he will sell his shares in another NBA team, if we can bring them back and he is fully invested in Seattle

  • @dr3693
    @dr3693 Год назад +28

    i will buy season tickets immediately i can’t wait

  • @dreamcage1801
    @dreamcage1801 Год назад +24

    Sonics will be back in the NBA in the 24-25 season after the NBA decides to return to NBC.

  • @JonZ1930
    @JonZ1930 Год назад +29

    NBA is Seattle will be amazing

  • @zakykemal_1444
    @zakykemal_1444 Год назад +3

    Let's Goo! Bring back the Sonics!!

  • @carljustinenuestro8771
    @carljustinenuestro8771 Год назад +5

    Laker fan here, I was still disappointed that what happened when the Sonics were “moved” to OKC because of an owner who actually want to keep in Seattle but instead, he moved the team to his hometown. I tell you what, I was 4 years old back then when the Sonics are “leaving” Seattle. I just wanna say for those beloved Sonics fans out there, I hope that your beloved team will return to the NBA one day and we were gonna bring back our rivalry during the 1980s and 1990s. If the Cleveland Browns did that when they “moved” to Baltimore and they return in 1999, the Sonics should also do that if the NBA wants to return to Seattle.

    • @adrianramone-ey9hi
      @adrianramone-ey9hi 11 месяцев назад +1

      They loved them so much couldn't build arena for them

  • @JustAddMovement
    @JustAddMovement Год назад +2

    I’m 38yo been a Seattle SuperSonics fan since the age of 8, 1993 til Infinity ! I still got my 1998 tickets against the Denver Nuggets, unfortunately we traded Shawn Kemp for Vin Baker, but still got to watch the Glove, Sam Perkins, Detlef, Hawkins, Nate… what an era 🥹

  • @GenX_US_Marine
    @GenX_US_Marine Год назад +13

    It will be the biggest sports comeback in the history of basketball when my Sonics return.

    • @OnePrince93
      @OnePrince93 Год назад +4

      It’ll be the biggest Sports comeback in the History of Sports in General!

  • @Melbester9
    @Melbester9 Год назад +11

    Knicks fan here, Sonics need the team back. NBA, get this franchise back in Seattle. The league is more fun when they're around.
    I'm glad the NHL gave Seattle Kraken their expansion team and they're doing very well in playoffs as a second year team. TV deal with NBA expires next year and NBC will attempt to bid & bring back NBA on NBC again.
    You guys are glad to have a caring and wonderful CEO who cares about the Kraken team. Now with Climate Pledge Arena built, Seattle can get the Sonics back.
    I watched the documentary Sonicsgate a long time ago and I know everything how Clay Bennett betrayed the Sonics and took them to OKC his hometown and NBA wanted the team out of Keyarena for a modern NBA venue and the city government couldnt get funding for it.
    My older brother grew up watching 90s NBA and had a Shawn Kemp sneaker. Sonics coming back once the rest falls through and NBA expansion in future.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад

      After Sonics return to Seattle and NBC reunite with the NBA than other cities like San Diego, Kansas City, Louisville and Pittsburgh will have a nba team.

    • @Melbester9
      @Melbester9 Год назад +1

      @dreamcage1801 Las Vegas will get an expansion team. NBA likes Nevada and the summer league + in season tournament Semis with finals is in Vegas.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад

      @@Melbester9 oh Vegas fans will be electrified when they get a NBA team.

    • @Melbester9
      @Melbester9 Год назад

      @dreamcage1801 Golden Knights Stanley Cup championship in Las Vegas solidified that city with an NBA expansion franchise and Oakland As relocation to Vegas

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад

      @@Melbester9 don’t forget the Raiders too. NBA team Las Vegas will be on NBC when they become a winning team.

  • @MarkDimon12
    @MarkDimon12 Год назад +5

    I’m not a fan of any NBA team but when the SuperSonics return I will be a fan Day 1

  • @shermanngjazz
    @shermanngjazz Год назад +5

    I would definitely love to work in the Sonics front office when the Sonics return in the future!

  • @Us0253
    @Us0253 Год назад +14

    We’ve be hearing this shit for years smh ever since they took the sonics

    • @squidMB
      @squidMB Год назад +2

      True but they actually have a functional arena now

  • @studentofthesaviors.o.s
    @studentofthesaviors.o.s Год назад +3

    Sonics are so wanted that even other diehard fans of other teams would want sonics back. Enemies and rivals of Seattle even want the sonics back... It's only right

  • @davidnguyen270
    @davidnguyen270 Год назад +8

    Sonics fans. I will be waiting on that beer, kind sir.
    (Now, how can I afford season for both the Kraken AND the Sonics?!) 😅

  • @Ra7111
    @Ra7111 Год назад +2

    I haven't watched basketball since they took my super sonics away so this makes me really excited

  • @laurocoman
    @laurocoman Год назад +6

    It would be nice if the Sonics came back and whipped the Thunder's ass.

  • @セックスマシーン愛好家

    Bring Seattle Supersonics back! 🎉😢

  • @orlandoobeso5135
    @orlandoobeso5135 Год назад +4

    You know KD is going to request a trade and finish his career in Seattle ❤

    • @CouLands
      @CouLands 9 месяцев назад

      Loooolll if you think KD is loyal to anyone

  • @renegademan83
    @renegademan83 Год назад +1

    I hope so. I always liked the SuperSonics

  • @OzanOzz
    @OzanOzz Год назад +2

    Sonics was my only fav team in the NBA and they took it from me :( Bring Sonics back!!!

  • @studentofthesaviors.o.s
    @studentofthesaviors.o.s Год назад +2

    BRING BACK THE SONICS !!!

  • @jonathanatencio86
    @jonathanatencio86 Год назад +1

    I’ll believe it when I see it. There’s been numerous talks about the Sonics coming back and it’s yet to be seen 🤷🏽

  • @Jrs310
    @Jrs310 Год назад +2

    I want my Sonics back

  • @asu5632
    @asu5632 Год назад +4

    Bring sonics back! I’d love to watch games live and root for them! Payton, Kemp, Hawkins, Shrimp and Perkins! That was an amazing team!

  • @Kudeghraw
    @Kudeghraw 5 месяцев назад

    This was the plan before the Sonics left. They wanted a combined facility that would host a hockey team and the Sonics. Then the Renton talk, then they skipped town. So they built a bit backwards but should be coming back as the metrics suggests over a 4 million viewer market.

  • @TheShahofBaltimore
    @TheShahofBaltimore Год назад

    As a Laker fan we NEED THE SONICS! they can be western conference and Vegas can get a team for Eastern conference. New Orleans Pelicans is western conference maybe they can do some swaps who knows?

  • @Shakester71
    @Shakester71 5 месяцев назад

    The logistics of an expansion are pretty complicated when talking about two new teams. As it stands, there are 15 teams each in the West and East with three divisions within those conferences and 5 teams per divisions. Adding two more teams would have to expand each conference into 4 divisions with 4 teams each and that can be a bit tricky. The two most logical locations for expansion are Seattle and Las Vegas, but both are in the West. Should they move Memphis into the Eastern conference? It makes the most sense.

  • @alecgooding4429
    @alecgooding4429 Год назад

    one of the best stadiums in the world

  • @joesakic91
    @joesakic91 Год назад +2

    Seattle gets an NBA franchise and Seattle makes Vancouver, BC, Canada as their NBA G League affiliate.

  • @krierp8
    @krierp8 5 месяцев назад

    I'm a Spurs fan, but its time for the Sonics to return or just NBA team in Seattle in general. Vegas would be great as well, like to see Pittsburgh and Kansas City or St Louis get one as well. Should be a 34 team league.

  • @xFearlessNomad
    @xFearlessNomad Год назад

    I can't wait. I can't do capitalizing... yall broke our hearts out here in the south side. PLEASE BRING IT BACK or your not my person.
    I lasted this long... i dont fell good for the time i have left...

  • @genxtechguy
    @genxtechguy Год назад

    Great to hear.

  • @alecgooding4429
    @alecgooding4429 Год назад

    dude, if the sonics come back i stg ill lose my mind. seattle needs that asap

  • @jacksonconley5117
    @jacksonconley5117 Год назад +2

    He would have to buy the naming rights and history of the Sonics back from Oklahoma.

  • @TSeattle206-bj7qk
    @TSeattle206-bj7qk Год назад +1

    Haven’t watch a full nba game. Since our sonics left. Bring back our Sonics😢

  • @lighty805
    @lighty805 Год назад +7

    Silver wants to add more teams one in Seattle and other in Las Vegas. 2 others on the east coast.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад

      2 east coast team will probably be Kansas City and Montreal

    • @gregpaspatis9425
      @gregpaspatis9425 Год назад +1

      @Why so sleepy@Dream Cage Somewhere else in the first parts of 2023 a comment on you tube mentioned Seattle and Las Vegas with St. Louis as another possible place along with the fantasizing of the commenter for a team (presumably at the KFC Yum arena) in Louisville, except for the fact that Kansas City built their arena in the 2010s (?) decade especially for a potential return of the NBA there, they were looking into having possibly the Orlando Magic (?) move there.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +1

      @@gregpaspatis9425 oh don’t forget Mexico City is mentioned too

    • @chaimdb8
      @chaimdb8 Год назад

      ​@@dreamcage1801 Kansas City on the East Coast? Bro what?

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад

      @@chaimdb8 yes it is look it up yourself bub

  • @DrLuke49
    @DrLuke49 5 месяцев назад

    After watching this interview then I would like to see the Seattle Kraken and the future Supersonics expansion team switch names.

  • @warwin3154
    @warwin3154 Год назад +1

    Key arena may be owned to Seattle Storm in WNBA. But many still want the Sonics back in the NBA and no longer in OKC

  • @butchgriggs6325
    @butchgriggs6325 Год назад +2

    LEAVE STARBUCKS OFF THE SPONSER LIST FOREVER!
    Still ticks me that it's a Kraken sponsor. Go with Seattle's Best or whatever other brand.

  • @satoncho
    @satoncho 4 месяца назад

    Gary Patton as Sonics president please!!!

  • @scootover7
    @scootover7 Год назад

    Seattle deserves an NBA team again , bring back the SuperSonics, green and white jerseys

  • @Slimthegoat23
    @Slimthegoat23 8 месяцев назад

    Bring back the Sonics!

  • @Aussie1276
    @Aussie1276 Год назад +11

    I have not watched the NBA since the Sonics were stolen from us and won't until they're home...

    • @richardjohnson6590
      @richardjohnson6590 Год назад

      Shit on nba
      They shit on us.
      Don't want them back.

    • @PapaT79
      @PapaT79 Год назад +2

      Some of us may never again!

    • @Aussie1276
      @Aussie1276 Год назад +1

      @@PapaT79 And with what the NBA has now become, I can't say I'd miss it if I never watched again

    • @PapaT79
      @PapaT79 Год назад

      @@Aussie1276 exactly

  • @AIi8n
    @AIi8n 11 месяцев назад +1

    FEEL BAD FOR TALL HE KIDS WHO MISSED OUT ON THE SONICS

  • @alwayskul
    @alwayskul 10 месяцев назад

    Enough talk, just make this happen. Yes, Adam Silver I'm talking to you! What hell are you waiting for? Make the damn announcement. You got the arena now.
    Undo the damage that David Stern and Clay Bennett did (and Howard Schultz too). Those Sonics fans never deserved to see their team move to OKC.

  • @mew1534
    @mew1534 Год назад +7

    We need NBA Sonics back! Seattle is one of the best cities to have an NBA team. Seattle is also great for events as the city is very clean, nearly drug-free, and very little to no crime.

    • @justinland1208
      @justinland1208 Год назад +3

      LMAO!!! That is by far the most incorrect statement I’ve ever seen. I mean Jesus, you’re wrong on every single point.

    • @TheTokyoPartners
      @TheTokyoPartners Год назад

      ​@@justinland1208 ever heard of sarcasm 😂😂

  • @702TifosiGambler
    @702TifosiGambler Год назад

    Move the Grizzlies to Vegas and Move Pelicans to Seattle

  • @willgreig4077
    @willgreig4077 Год назад +1

    When the Sonics come back the city will explode if your an outsider who thinks The city is insane about the Hawks just wait 😂

  • @georgeleavitt4487
    @georgeleavitt4487 6 месяцев назад

    Sonics have been gone longer then the Winnipeg keys we’re it’s time to bring them back

  • @jpx08
    @jpx08 Год назад

    I look forward to the day the Sonics return and the day they play OKC! It will be payback time and I hope the new Sonics tear the them up good!

  • @primoxxl71
    @primoxxl71 4 месяца назад

    Goodness, this guy could run for president AND wun.

  • @Dweller415
    @Dweller415 Год назад

    “It’s going to get fixed”
    It won’t come cheap…

  • @tamakalepe9537
    @tamakalepe9537 Год назад +1

    I’ll fund the Seattle Sonics with my Emerald gem and love for family gem.💚💎❤️God bless WA! 🤙🏽 God gave me the power to find the gems in a secret location in WA. Enjoy and thank you for the torture and suffering and mistreatment!! It belongs to you WA! 😉

  • @DougYokum
    @DougYokum Год назад

    A lot of talking I heard that many times before.

  • @StevenBeinke
    @StevenBeinke 3 месяца назад

    YOU MIGHT ASK SEATTLE IF THEY CAN DELIVER OUR MAIL FROM THE POST OFFICE BEFORE ANY NBA TEAM SPENDS THE MONEY FROM STOLEN MAIL OF BENEFICIARIES OF WILLS.

  • @michaelmapes4119
    @michaelmapes4119 Год назад

    This will never happen....Silver (AKA Stern's MiniMe) will not ok it. The Owners will vote against it, like they did back in '13. Head of the Expansion committee Clay Bennett (Name sound familiar?) said he would veto ANY Seattle expansion bid....But I could be wrong (I hope I am), and if so for the love of God PLEASE LEAVE WALLY WALKER OUT OF IT!!!

  • @tubefaze
    @tubefaze Год назад

    As a Houston Rockets fan I want the Sonics back. ASAP. We need something to hate on besides the Utah Jazz.

  • @seanstours3913
    @seanstours3913 Год назад

    Expand to Seattle and Vancouver!

  • @Shmoneyteam34
    @Shmoneyteam34 Год назад +1

    Bruh we’ve won the Super Bowl!! Seattle ms soccer team is good and our stadium is good.. why tf does Seattle not have a fucking nba team wtf Seattle a better city then any other city wtf

  • @timmyturner013
    @timmyturner013 Год назад +2

    Seattle doesn’t hold the sonic names rights OKC still does

  • @thenorthman515
    @thenorthman515 Год назад +4

    Maybe you should just be thankfull that you have the kraken.

  • @ckrgksdkrak
    @ckrgksdkrak Год назад +8

    appropriately rename seattle super needles 💉

  • @khure711
    @khure711 Год назад +2

    Booo, NBA doesn’t deserve Seattle. Why anyone would want the NBA back. They stole the sonics from Seattle. Why should the NBA be allowed to make money off of Seattle. Don’t let them win.

  • @FAITHandLOGIC
    @FAITHandLOGIC 9 месяцев назад

    If im Seattle, i don't even want the NBA back.

  • @AbsoluteADCC
    @AbsoluteADCC Год назад +5

    If I was an NHL or NBA player, I’d never want to play in Seattle long term. Both sports have 9-months long season, you would want to settle down, have your family live with you in the city you play. Can’t imagine any of these athletes willing to settle down in this crap hole.

    • @MastRk
      @MastRk Год назад +6

      these dudes are loaded, they live in Bellevue or lake WA areas where they are insulated from the grime of the city...not only that they typically take lavish vacations in the offseason....Seattle is great for no income tax.

    • @oneofthelastfewleft
      @oneofthelastfewleft Год назад +2

      ​@@MastRk sure no income tax but the 2nd highest taxed state in the country. 2nd highest property tax and and excise tax off the charts. All important factors.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +3

      If I was a nba player I’d definitely want to play for the Sonics

    • @AbsoluteADCC
      @AbsoluteADCC Год назад

      @@MastRk Unfortunately those communities are no longer safe. Bellevue and Issaquah is getting target hits, especially with non pursuit laws it's a paradise for the criminals.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +1

      @@AbsoluteADCC gun laws

  • @kamman1374
    @kamman1374 Год назад +2

    Idk, basketball nowadays kind of sucks. But, bring it back with a different name. Sonics is a dumb name.

    • @Kevin-it4fh
      @Kevin-it4fh Год назад +5

      What a stupid idea. It's the Supersonics, based on Seattle's aviation history, and the name has basically history behind it...

    • @kamman1374
      @kamman1374 Год назад +1

      @@Kevin-it4fh still a dumb name. Fk the history. Come up with something fun.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +2

      @@Kevin-it4fh absolutely….SuperSonics and color is green, Gold yellow and white

  • @integrity-ut8ff
    @integrity-ut8ff Год назад +8

    Climate Pledge Arena ? should be called : Snowflake Woke Arena ! that fit`s the cities label around the country / around the world ...

    • @vdubb4751
      @vdubb4751 Год назад +9

      Lol good one look at the sharp brain on YOU I know NOBODY has ever thought of that clever witty line before absolutely amazing! Tucker Carlson would be proud

    • @algrundau9441
      @algrundau9441 Год назад

      "Snowflakes?"....Have you seen the Kraken play? they are fucking savages...hahaha....I dare you to call one a Snowflake.

    • @nemonewbourne
      @nemonewbourne Год назад

      Yeah, we should be really ashamed of building a climate-neutral effort by year one. How callous of Seattle.

    • @sebastianbelcher5354
      @sebastianbelcher5354 11 месяцев назад

      What a comment lol. I can tell you think Gutteld is peak comedy....

  • @Ribo-qj1ud
    @Ribo-qj1ud Год назад +3

    Let Oklahoma keep them we aren't basketball state..... rains too much here.... we are ok with Portland blazers

    • @BrockMak
      @BrockMak Год назад +1

      I grew up believing it was one of the top reasons that Shawn Kemp wanted to leave, wasn't it?

    • @Ribo-qj1ud
      @Ribo-qj1ud Год назад +2

      @@BrockMak funny you mention him... he stayed living up here was actually arrested couple months back for a drive by shooting at the Tacoma mall.... not kidding either

    • @bball3048mm
      @bball3048mm Год назад +5

      @@BrockMak He wanted a trade because the Sonics wouldn't renegotiate his contract after a stellar performance in the 96 Finals vs the Bulls. During that summer the Sonics gave $35 million (~7 years) for an unproven 7 foot shot blocker.

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +1

      @@bball3048mm Sonics should have gave Kemp his money

    • @BrockMak
      @BrockMak Год назад

      @@bball3048mm Jim Mcilvaine. I used him a bit on NBA Jam for exactly his shotblocking if nothing else.

  • @dutchberry
    @dutchberry Год назад +5

    Build a arena in Bellevue. Not in Seattle. It is too dangerous Seattle

    • @dreamcage1801
      @dreamcage1801 Год назад +5

      State of Washington won’t let it happen

    • @rentfree2377
      @rentfree2377 Год назад +2

      Bellevue won’t let it happen 😂

    • @Kevin-it4fh
      @Kevin-it4fh Год назад

      Would be a huge waste of money

    • @DaveBoy
      @DaveBoy Год назад +2

      I'm a regular guy who lives in Northwest WA. I go down to Seattle all the time for Kraken games and for events. Very safe city center and downtown, unless you think seeing the occasional panhandler is scary.

  • @andrewheitmeyer9945
    @andrewheitmeyer9945 Год назад

    I remember you Seattle clowns were wanting the Sacramento Kings to move to Seattle. Be glad you have a good hockey team.