I have the original 4 FliHi with my 225's in 5-GW. The 225 4 iron didn't carry far enough for me hence the FliHi. These are great irons to blend with your set, particularly if you aren't a hybrid fan.
I've got the old one (3iron) it blends so well with my 225 4 and 5 iron. I don't see my bag changing because i'm playing my best golf when i put my bag together last year. 223 down to gw. All time low round level par in a tournament. Started that as a 7.9 hdc.
This is a perfect example of if it's not broke don't fix it 😊 you are playing great golf, keep playing, enjoy and don't bother about changing anything in the bag unless you really need to. Thanks for watching and the comment 👍🏻
These videos are fantastic. You need to compile all of this data across brands/models and then provide a flow chart. EG if you like a player’s style head, miss thin and toe, your best bet is XYZ model. (That’s me btw if you have a recommendation).
Compare against ping Icrossover? I was using the old Fli-hi but ended up having better performance with the Icrossover so I’m curious how they compare now.
If the video gets decent coverage and I get enough likes etc then it'll show me that more people want this kind of content. Everyone hit the Like button 👍🏻
Had a fitting today for a utility iron (looking mainly at 2-irons) and found the fli-hi was much better distance wise, felt faster off the face and felt great off the deck. The I-crossover was slightly more forgiving but was a fair bit shorter distance wise, but that might just be me.
@@adambarnes4191 yeah I tested both. found that the u505 was more forgiving off the tee and looked a bit kinder than the fli-hi, but had a thicker sole so was harder to hit off the deck. it was really tough to decide between the two but I felt I would get more use out of the fli-hi and it would still suit my game as I got better, whereas the u505 may fall out of favour. I would definitely recommend going to try them both out if you get the chance as they are a bit different, and for me trying different shafts made a big difference 🙂
Hi Jay, nice review. Rather than comparing to the 22 version, how does this compare vs. a similarly lofted st230 or st230 max hybrid? is it longer or more forgiving for example? Unless you expressly don't like hybrids then this looks like a niche product for the faster swinger. I have a sneak feeling this might win for distance though.
Awesome review. Playing 225s 4-PW and looking to plug the gap between the 4I and 15 degree 3 wood. FliHi 3 or 225 3 iron?? Fli Hi sounds pretty hot but some versatility the 3I 225 wouldn't have. Cheers Nick
Hi Nick, out of the two I'd go for the Fli Hi, although for versatility I'd actually replace with a hybrid 3. You'll have a potentially greater array of shots with a hybrid 👍🏻
@@lkae4 as Mizuno has learned and stated more and more golfers are swinging steep so the turf interaction has become critical. Srixon really jumped on it before Mizuno did. Handicap isn’t the best way to measure who fits what anymore and that’s why their swing analyzer is such a key component.
@@thomasgodfrey758 Yes, I have 243s and I love the sole improvements for diggers. It's been a revelation. I hit the pin the other day from 140. I think that's the first time ever not including my two holes in one. But a narrower sole doesn't help with steep swings. And I agree, swing speed determines iron type as we see all the +5s on the LPGA playing cavity back irons. But most 20 handicaps aren't carrying 7 iron 150+ on average. They're probably carrying 7 iron 130 to 135 on average. So forgiveness will help.
I'm very late to this video so suspect I won't get a reply now but trying anyway. Firstly, thanks Jay for the fantastic content as always. This is a club I've always been interested in. I'm considering the 2 iron (16.5*) and would really only use it off the tee (I have no confidence with driver). Would you expect it to go further than a 5 wood and would you expect it to be easier to hit than a 3-wood? My swing speed is 86mph with 7i and I typically hit my 5-wood 235 yards total.
Hi George, I would say that it may be easier to strike the centre due to the slightly shorter shaft than that of the 3 Wood. Miss strikes however may see a little more drop off due to the lack of Roll and Bulge on the face and also the CG of a 3 wood is lower and further back than the 2i. Saying that, I have seen myself with golfers, that some just get on better with Long Irons and Driving Irons in particular so for those golfers, absolutely I would say that its a worth while endeavour 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks Jay. Really appreciate you taking the time to reply to a question on a video you posted quite some time ago. Your level of engagement with your viewers is exceptional. Thanks again.
@GCasRod I always try my best to engage with viewers. I think it's the least I can do, when you guys spend the time to watch and comment on the videos 👍🏻
My average swing speed for a driving iron is around 92 mph. I’ve lost all confidence in my driver so I’ve been using a pxg 3 iron off the tee, would the mizuno fli hi 24 be a lot better option especially with the dry summer months coming and the fairways starting to get firm?
only way to find out would be to go and test one if you can. I found the fli-hi 2i to be insanely springy off the tee and it rolled out almost as far as my driver while swinging it at about 105 club speed
I’m looking for a club to fit in between my 3 wood and 5iron pro245, thinking the 4 fli hi made 1degree stronger might be the club after watching this.
That's absolutely true, although it also goes further than my 4 hybrid, but my hybrid has a higher flight and is more forgiving with that roll and bulge face 👍🏻
You're going to miss it every time if too close to the green! What a beast..... I can send my 921 HM 4i around 200 on my best strikes, but then my swing speed is high 80s.
@@AskGolfNutAt my current handicap, I'm not even supposed to be using a 5i. When I was fitted, I didn't like the 225 or FliHi. But once I got used to how easy 921 HMs were so easy to hit, I brought them back into my game. If the winter swing work gets my driver up where it should be, there may be a reappraisal of my set make-up.....
@@AskGolfNut Yes I suppose to get reasonable stopping power. For that you should have ideally over 45 degrees descent angle right? So seemingly you could at least be using the 4 iron version at your speed. So maybe 10-15 mph more for the 2 iron?
@freddym6643 anything 40 degrees and over is sufficient, obviously the more the better, but you'd have to be high 90s 7 iron speed to have a functional flight on a 2 Iron 👍🏻
It's there for certain courses, that's for sure. It won't beat a hybrid for functional flight though and still have more flight options with the hybrid over the slightly flatter baseline flight of the Fli Hi. Still for a flat faced driving iron, it does a pretty good job 👍🏻
Im still gaming a X2Hot Hybrid 4 Hybrid. What benefits would there be over this hybrid? Inch shorter that can only be s good thing. I just got the 243 and quite fancy this as my 4 iron..
In all honesty, no DLR can match the design of a hybrid, no different that a hybrid can't beat a fairway wood for pure ball dynamics. But they are all designed for different flights and also uses. The new Fli Hi is very much for the golfer that doesn't like hybrids or fairways woods possibly and needs something that just works the best it can from the fairway and also off the tee 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNutProbably similar everywhere in the UK but I'm wondering if these HI FLis would suit UK summer golf where you need the ball to stop on the green. I expect a lot more spin Vs a hybrid? I have only ever hit hybrids so I don't know but might go get fit for one. Hit my 5 iron 243 absolutely fine off the floor. Play off 9
@@AskGolfNut thanks. I had the stock steel fiber and was really loose. Then has the tt mid 115 that was in my 245 and not crazy about it (had an extra one so worth trying). Always like the Hzrdus black and was thinking that is what it looked like from video.
It would be less than my blade 4i due to the loft difference and also slightly larger and more tech inspired head of the 245s but still there would be a difference 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Thanks. I am still in MP225 and find that my 4i and 5i are only 7yards apart, so changing the 4i out for a fli hi should give me the extra 5+ yards I need? Would spin and launch change considerably? I tend to not struggle with either of those, so would be banking on the FliHi giving me more ball speed
@@fransjooste2331 I'm the same (225 and small 4-5 iron gap) and have placed my order for the Fli-Hi 4i which should arrive next month. Hoping to properly fill the gap between my 5 iron and 3 hybrid. I'll try and remember to come back and let you know my results.
@@fransjooste2331 I haven't had it long enough to play more than a couple of rounds. With my modest swing speed I'm not really getting anymore yardage than my 225 4i even though it seems to launch a bit higher. That may change with more experience because it feels different to a normal iron what with the bigger head and graphite shaft and may take more time for a mediocre golfer like me to adjust.
I have the original 4 FliHi with my 225's in 5-GW. The 225 4 iron didn't carry far enough for me hence the FliHi. These are great irons to blend with your set, particularly if you aren't a hybrid fan.
Gonna need those 2-iron off the tee numbers Jay! 😂 what a rocket launcher!
I've got the old one (3iron) it blends so well with my 225 4 and 5 iron. I don't see my bag changing because i'm playing my best golf when i put my bag together last year. 223 down to gw. All time low round level par in a tournament. Started that as a 7.9 hdc.
This is a perfect example of if it's not broke don't fix it 😊 you are playing great golf, keep playing, enjoy and don't bother about changing anything in the bag unless you really need to.
Thanks for watching and the comment 👍🏻
Love your reaction to the first 4 swings.
Me too..... Its the first ever DLR that I've considered gaming... 😮👍🏻
These videos are fantastic. You need to compile all of this data across brands/models and then provide a flow chart. EG if you like a player’s style head, miss thin and toe, your best bet is XYZ model. (That’s me btw if you have a recommendation).
What kind of hitting strip do you use in your flooring? I’m replacing my bullseye strip soon and looking at options
A modified custom version of what's in this video........
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Head to head with the 245 4i? With the increased tungsten iin the 245, will it launch higher and stop faster (and maybe more forgiving?)
Compare against ping Icrossover? I was using the old Fli-hi but ended up having better performance with the Icrossover so I’m curious how they compare now.
If the video gets decent coverage and I get enough likes etc then it'll show me that more people want this kind of content. Everyone hit the Like button 👍🏻
Had a fitting today for a utility iron (looking mainly at 2-irons) and found the fli-hi was much better distance wise, felt faster off the face and felt great off the deck. The I-crossover was slightly more forgiving but was a fair bit shorter distance wise, but that might just be me.
I would hit tge like button twice if I could. I shared it with a few folks
@@clarkeyw2000 Did you happen to test the u505? I'm trying to decide between that and the fli hi.
@@adambarnes4191 yeah I tested both. found that the u505 was more forgiving off the tee and looked a bit kinder than the fli-hi, but had a thicker sole so was harder to hit off the deck. it was really tough to decide between the two but I felt I would get more use out of the fli-hi and it would still suit my game as I got better, whereas the u505 may fall out of favour. I would definitely recommend going to try them both out if you get the chance as they are a bit different, and for me trying different shafts made a big difference 🙂
Gave the 2022 flihi to my son to take to Uni. Just ordered 2024 flihi 2 iron 😊
At least Dad has the upgrade 😂👍👍
Hi Jay, nice review. Rather than comparing to the 22 version, how does this compare vs. a similarly lofted st230 or st230 max hybrid? is it longer or more forgiving for example? Unless you expressly don't like hybrids then this looks like a niche product for the faster swinger. I have a sneak feeling this might win for distance though.
I'm still go do the ST230 Max Hybrids so will reference this within the review for people wondering the same thing 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome review. Playing 225s 4-PW and looking to plug the gap between the 4I and 15 degree 3 wood. FliHi 3 or 225 3 iron?? Fli Hi sounds pretty hot but some versatility the 3I 225 wouldn't have. Cheers Nick
Hi Nick, out of the two I'd go for the Fli Hi, although for versatility I'd actually replace with a hybrid 3. You'll have a potentially greater array of shots with a hybrid 👍🏻
Great show. Mizuno, please release an entire set of MP Fli Hi irons down to gap wedge!
I'll be sure to feed that back 😊
Pretty much have with the Pro 245’s
@@thomasgodfrey758 245s are sneaky narrow in the sole. I think they're probably for 16 and better. A Fli Hi set could be for the 20 golfer.
@@lkae4 as Mizuno has learned and stated more and more golfers are swinging steep so the turf interaction has become critical. Srixon really jumped on it before Mizuno did. Handicap isn’t the best way to measure who fits what anymore and that’s why their swing analyzer is such a key component.
@@thomasgodfrey758 Yes, I have 243s and I love the sole improvements for diggers. It's been a revelation. I hit the pin the other day from 140. I think that's the first time ever not including my two holes in one. But a narrower sole doesn't help with steep swings. And I agree, swing speed determines iron type as we see all the +5s on the LPGA playing cavity back irons. But most 20 handicaps aren't carrying 7 iron 150+ on average. They're probably carrying 7 iron 130 to 135 on average. So forgiveness will help.
I'm very late to this video so suspect I won't get a reply now but trying anyway. Firstly, thanks Jay for the fantastic content as always. This is a club I've always been interested in. I'm considering the 2 iron (16.5*) and would really only use it off the tee (I have no confidence with driver). Would you expect it to go further than a 5 wood and would you expect it to be easier to hit than a 3-wood? My swing speed is 86mph with 7i and I typically hit my 5-wood 235 yards total.
Hi George, I would say that it may be easier to strike the centre due to the slightly shorter shaft than that of the 3 Wood. Miss strikes however may see a little more drop off due to the lack of Roll and Bulge on the face and also the CG of a 3 wood is lower and further back than the 2i.
Saying that, I have seen myself with golfers, that some just get on better with Long Irons and Driving Irons in particular so for those golfers, absolutely I would say that its a worth while endeavour 👍
@@AskGolfNut Thanks Jay. Really appreciate you taking the time to reply to a question on a video you posted quite some time ago. Your level of engagement with your viewers is exceptional. Thanks again.
@GCasRod I always try my best to engage with viewers. I think it's the least I can do, when you guys spend the time to watch and comment on the videos 👍🏻
I am still playing the 2022 Hi Fli and hate to say this but the new 2024 is MUCH BETTER
Thanks for the comment, how did you find the differences between the two? 👍🏻
My average swing speed for a driving iron is around 92 mph. I’ve lost all confidence in my driver so I’ve been using a pxg 3 iron off the tee, would the mizuno fli hi 24 be a lot better option especially with the dry summer months coming and the fairways starting to get firm?
only way to find out would be to go and test one if you can. I found the fli-hi 2i to be insanely springy off the tee and it rolled out almost as far as my driver while swinging it at about 105 club speed
With both hit in the middle the ‘24 is longer than the ‘22 by ____yds? Thx for reviewing
I’m looking for a club to fit in between my 3 wood and 5iron pro245, thinking the 4 fli hi made 1degree stronger might be the club after watching this.
Either the 3 or a slightly stronger 4 would be a good choice 👍🏻👍🏻
Not hard to hit it further than your 4i as it goes nowhere if not in your bag😉😂
That's absolutely true, although it also goes further than my 4 hybrid, but my hybrid has a higher flight and is more forgiving with that roll and bulge face 👍🏻
Is the NS pro Modus GOST available too ? And what shaft do you recommand ?
Whichever shaft fits your own bend profile requirements 👍🏻
You're going to miss it every time if too close to the green!
What a beast.....
I can send my 921 HM 4i around 200 on my best strikes, but then my swing speed is high 80s.
At high 80s it would definitely be worth seeing what benefits the new Fli Hi has! It's a rocket 🚀 😊
@@AskGolfNutAt my current handicap, I'm not even supposed to be using a 5i. When I was fitted, I didn't like the 225 or FliHi. But once I got used to how easy 921 HMs were so easy to hit, I brought them back into my game.
If the winter swing work gets my driver up where it should be, there may be a reappraisal of my set make-up.....
How fast do you need to swing to effectively use the 2 iron version of the deck? Also any thoughts on how the fli hi compares to the T200 utilities?
When you say to use it, what flight characteristics are you looking for? If it's functional stop into a green then faster than me 😊
@@AskGolfNut Yes I suppose to get reasonable stopping power. For that you should have ideally over 45 degrees descent angle right? So seemingly you could at least be using the 4 iron version at your speed. So maybe 10-15 mph more for the 2 iron?
@freddym6643 anything 40 degrees and over is sufficient, obviously the more the better, but you'd have to be high 90s 7 iron speed to have a functional flight on a 2 Iron 👍🏻
My guess is that club went straight in the bag
It's there for certain courses, that's for sure. It won't beat a hybrid for functional flight though and still have more flight options with the hybrid over the slightly flatter baseline flight of the Fli Hi.
Still for a flat faced driving iron, it does a pretty good job 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut no arguments from me. Still need a driving iron. Gonna go down and test em out after I finish my irons
Im still gaming a X2Hot Hybrid 4 Hybrid. What benefits would there be over this hybrid? Inch shorter that can only be s good thing.
I just got the 243 and quite fancy this as my 4 iron..
In all honesty, no DLR can match the design of a hybrid, no different that a hybrid can't beat a fairway wood for pure ball dynamics. But they are all designed for different flights and also uses. The new Fli Hi is very much for the golfer that doesn't like hybrids or fairways woods possibly and needs something that just works the best it can from the fairway and also off the tee 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNutProbably similar everywhere in the UK but I'm wondering if these HI FLis would suit UK summer golf where you need the ball to stop on the green. I expect a lot more spin Vs a hybrid?
I have only ever hit hybrids so I don't know but might go get fit for one. Hit my 5 iron 243 absolutely fine off the floor. Play off 9
can you test this one against the stz or stmax hybrids.
I'll include the datasets in the ming hybrid review if my aging brain remembers 😊
What shaft is in the one you were testing?
By memory it was the Hzrdus Black 6.0 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut thanks. I had the stock steel fiber and was really loose. Then has the tt mid 115 that was in my 245 and not crazy about it (had an extra one so worth trying). Always like the Hzrdus black and was thinking that is what it looked like from video.
How many yards extra would you get from this versus the 245 4i?
It would be less than my blade 4i due to the loft difference and also slightly larger and more tech inspired head of the 245s but still there would be a difference 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Thanks. I am still in MP225 and find that my 4i and 5i are only 7yards apart, so changing the 4i out for a fli hi should give me the extra 5+ yards I need? Would spin and launch change considerably? I tend to not struggle with either of those, so would be banking on the FliHi giving me more ball speed
@@fransjooste2331 I'm the same (225 and small 4-5 iron gap) and have placed my order for the Fli-Hi 4i which should arrive next month. Hoping to properly fill the gap between my 5 iron and 3 hybrid. I'll try and remember to come back and let you know my results.
@@Surfbird11 Thanks for the message. Any feedback as yet or are you still waiting?
@@fransjooste2331 I haven't had it long enough to play more than a couple of rounds. With my modest swing speed I'm not really getting anymore yardage than my 225 4i even though it seems to launch a bit higher.
That may change with more experience because it feels different to a normal iron what with the bigger head and graphite shaft and may take more time for a mediocre golfer like me to adjust.
Please compre with a Takomo 2 Iron. I have one and it's awesome!!!
whats the raw head weight
Unsure as the head was supplied with the shaft and grip attached ready for use. 👍🏻