Dean Winchester and Mary Winchester - Say Something [AngelDove]

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @AngelDove
    @AngelDove  2 года назад +2

    Got a song you want to see a Supernatural or The Winchesters video set to? go to the community thread at ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUjJE71PYa2x7X6r3sSwyMcu6KaLnG7A2 and add it there :)
    You can check out more videos here: All Supernatural Edits: ruclips.net/p/PLEYceulY4L9m3_9eroRhCeKd8xi4__gUp

  • @kimmysue42569
    @kimmysue42569 2 года назад +36

    Jensen is so underrated as an actor. This episode made you see why Dean was the way he was. Afraid to love but staying strong to protect Sam. I cried when Dean told his mom he loved her but he hated her too. The depth of emotion was intense. This is why I think he’s underrated. Look forward to his future projects!!❤️❤️❤️

    • @margaretgarside5617
      @margaretgarside5617 11 месяцев назад +1

      As soon as he told her he hated her, I knew I was going to need a tissue.

  • @Dana-dj7lm
    @Dana-dj7lm 2 года назад +27

    I consider Jensen a very underrated actor, he could be one of the most popular actors in Hollywood, if he had not given 15 years of his life to the "Supernatural" project, although this series is simply impossible without him. Dean Winchester is such a deep role, in which Jensen put all his soul and all his talent (sarcasm, pain, friendship, incredible charisma and love for the family this character has everything), bravo to the actor. I watched him earlier on social media network, he has a wonderful family and such cut children, I want to with him new interesting roles and family happiness.😊

  • @JackieNoBones
    @JackieNoBones 7 лет назад +355

    I remember watching Mary coming back in season 12 and thinking to myself: "Wow! Sam and Dean are going to live together happily with Mary and Cas, and they're going to put all this behind them!" Then myself punches me in the face, because God forbid the Winchesters be happy for once!
    Oh no... I'ma cry now...

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад +17

      Yeah the boys don't seem to be able to keep any nice "things"/people without the writers taking it away :(

    • @JackieNoBones
      @JackieNoBones 7 лет назад +7

      AngelDove Yeah... at least they have each other... really that's all they need.

    • @maelle4052
      @maelle4052 7 лет назад +2

      I agree but still : they are alone now...

    • @nikitagreen4210
      @nikitagreen4210 7 лет назад +5

      Wings of Castiel ikr I'm like ha maybe they'll be happy for a while. Then proceeds to hit myself cause I'm like wtf am I thinking

    • @MsLovestory01
      @MsLovestory01 7 лет назад +1

      Wings of Castiel Yeah and then when they had a new start she gets sucked into a freaking parallel universe.

  • @yeehaw481
    @yeehaw481 7 лет назад +293

    2:15 I'm so proud of Dean for finally saying that out-loud. And did you really have to end it LIKE THAT?

    • @TempestinBlue
      @TempestinBlue 6 лет назад +11

      I’m super proud of him for saying it- for even getting to the point where he could THINK it, let alone say it out loud- I just wish we knew if Mary remembered that he said it.

  • @sarahamsellem3470
    @sarahamsellem3470 7 лет назад +202

    "i hate you... and I love you" not only it was one of my favorite lines from this episode but it also describes perfectly how i feel about you and your videos lol @angeldove

    • @JR-ws1df
      @JR-ws1df 6 лет назад +1

      The I hate you I love, it really makes me cry...i love this girl I dated recently but she also made me so mad that I hate her at the same time. It hurts something within me that I didn't even know existed

  • @renklisapkalihayalet
    @renklisapkalihayalet 7 лет назад +80

    "I hate you."
    "I hate you. and I love you."
    ... oh,god. I'm crying. :'((
    (Perfect video!! ^^ )

  • @WibblyWobblyEtc
    @WibblyWobblyEtc 7 лет назад +69

    dean's arc with mary was such amazing character development and issue exploration and resolution, and that speech dean gave her felt like probably the biggest single leap we've seen him make as a character :') it sort makes me feel bad that sam was so sidelined where mary was concerned but it does make sense for the characters. sam got to know her as a stranger, almost, but dean had to reconcile her with the mother he already knew (or thought he did). anyway, beautiful video as always :)

    • @amberxv4777
      @amberxv4777 5 лет назад

      Well Sam got to reconcile with John. Also I feel like Sam has more arc with his father. Dean preferred Bobby as a father figure.

  • @editsx5023
    @editsx5023 7 лет назад +7

    THIS SCENE WAS SO SAD IN THE EPISODE AND NOW YOU GO AND PUT ALL THESE FLASHBACKS AND MEMORIES OVER THE TOP, ARE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY MY HEART!??!

  • @Mr4real93
    @Mr4real93 7 лет назад +45

    I identify with Dean so much. After my mom left I had to be a mother, & a brother to my little sister.

  • @eearjayy8764
    @eearjayy8764 7 лет назад +68

    Holy shit this is amazing. The editing is superb and the song always makes me cry.

  • @littletony519
    @littletony519 7 лет назад +39

    I AM NOT OKAY!!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    But I love it

  • @megafrost9960
    @megafrost9960 5 лет назад +5

    As much as I do NOT like Mary coming back into the show, this episode was amazing! What Dean said...after all these years...I'm so proud of him!

  • @Featherbow
    @Featherbow 7 лет назад +1

    I legitimately cried. Choked up, tears, everything. Well done. Dean's speech continues to break my heart

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад

      aww, Yeah, his speech and his tears, always makes me cry

  • @bellaavalos2646
    @bellaavalos2646 7 лет назад +54

    Sam Smith linked this video on her twitter!!!! OMG CONGRATS!!! You super deserve it, and all your videos are amazing and gorgeous and touching. And I LOVED THIS ONE!! Sorry. Rant over.

  • @lolawinchester4530
    @lolawinchester4530 7 лет назад +5

    when he said Sam I swear I lost it 😭😭😭😭 how could one word be this heartbreaking ? how could I continue the edit after this!!!

  • @anthuanet2750
    @anthuanet2750 7 лет назад +82

    YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS SO AMAZING I'M CRYING NOW

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад +6

      Aw, Thank you so much :)

  • @alexmoore7207
    @alexmoore7207 7 лет назад +1

    I legit sobbed my lungs out holy shit. dean winchester is the best character ever and this proves it. just like jensen deserves so many awards for his acting.

  • @avagray936
    @avagray936 7 лет назад +24

    i love deans shirt i wuv hugs 😁😂

  • @isaaccritchley141
    @isaaccritchley141 7 лет назад +2

    People wonder why I love Supernatural.... Because it's always there when I don't even know I need it. This video.... Perfect. Thank you. Everything in here, combined with the song choice.

  • @BlueEyedBabe03
    @BlueEyedBabe03 6 лет назад +13

    This is easily one of the best fanvideos--of anything--I've ever seen.
    Incredible.

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you!❤

    • @BlueEyedBabe03
      @BlueEyedBabe03 6 лет назад

      You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to make this!

  • @alexius471
    @alexius471 7 лет назад +13

    You make these scenes so FUCKING intense. That's why I Need to cry. Everytime

  • @Supergirl67-53
    @Supergirl67-53 7 лет назад +16

    I cried. It takes a lot to make me cry, but this did it. Amazing job.😢😥💔

  •  7 лет назад +8

    Noooo...My heart is broken now ! More than during the episode ! Your videos are always brilliant. This one is a masterpiece !

  • @lethialowe8626
    @lethialowe8626 4 месяца назад

    This is a well thought out point in the character of Dean Winchester. He spent his whole life trying to put his broken family back together. That’s what he wanted , in spite of everything family is what matters. Thank you Dean

  • @haleyh6642
    @haleyh6642 7 лет назад +7

    I was having a pretty good day; just relaxin, eating my Pringles. Then I see that you posted. And I'm excited. I watch and get all ready eyed. Then I guess you thought it'd be fun to rip my heart out of my chest just for shits and giggles. THANKS!
    haha. But no seriously, you are just SO talented at what you do. Thank you so much for every video you post, in always so excited to see what you create next!

  • @ducky3701
    @ducky3701 7 лет назад +11

    I'm just gonna go shoot myself in the face now. It would definitely hurt less. Ow freaking ow!!!!
    This was amazing and heartbreakingly beautiful. Can't wait for the next one!

  • @kimmysue42569
    @kimmysue42569 Месяц назад

    Jensen is an amazing actor and he’s so versatile! Hard as nails but vulnerable too. I love this character!!

  • @sbone441
    @sbone441 7 лет назад +1

    God he breaks my heart. He's such an amazing actor.

  • @wahjmohamedkhair8018
    @wahjmohamedkhair8018 7 лет назад +6

    did you hear that? it is the sound of my heart breaking! thank you! it is perfect! perfect!

  • @eveleblanc6530
    @eveleblanc6530 7 лет назад +8

    i love this edit so much, it really suits their relationship so well! *applause

  • @Missy04
    @Missy04 7 лет назад +1

    I finished the last episode a few minutes ago and I am in tears. Searching for tributes now and you are ... the best. honestly, your vids are so amazing, stunning and truly touching.

  • @hannah6557
    @hannah6557 7 лет назад

    these past couple edits have me in tears

  • @angelrouse4106
    @angelrouse4106 2 года назад +6

    Angeldove I LOVE this..Just found it. Thank you for sharing your talent. This made me cry

  • @crichardson3903
    @crichardson3903 6 месяцев назад

    Love this song and this scene. Made me cry.

  • @Athertonful
    @Athertonful 7 лет назад

    There can never be enough videos of Supernatural set to this song. I remember being in the car years ago and hearing this song on the radio and knowing there HAD to be a fan video with this song for Supernatural. Got home and RUclips'd it and sure enough more than i could count on both hands. This song is made for this show and reminds me of what an amazing big brother dean is. Just thinking about how many times Sam has doubted Dean like with Benny. Any brother who sells their SOUL to bring you back from the dead deserves the benefit of the doubt.

  • @jakeriawashington1222
    @jakeriawashington1222 7 лет назад +79

    Aww my heart!!😭😭😭

  • @jenandjocamacho2113
    @jenandjocamacho2113 7 лет назад +1

    so much feels on too many levels . I don't even know where to start. I can honestly say
    " I'm crying ". and I keep thinking about how Dean reminded Sam , Sammy our lives either going to end bloody or sad.
    still means broken. . I didn't think #SUPERNATURAL has such hold on me but it does. still helps me on ways thought not possible. Anyway amazing video love it .

  • @haydenwinchester4301
    @haydenwinchester4301 7 лет назад +1

    I myself was also one of those fans among us that was actually pretty excited about Mary coming back and thinking "Yay the boys have their mother back maybe some things will finally start looking up!" BOY am I eating my fist now or what!?
    As usual, thank you for making my heart break (in good ways!!), Episode 22 tore me in ways that you couldn't imagine (quote from Dean himself ahem), especially with Jensen's superb acting. Your editing just makes it 1000 times better.

  • @kyliegrant5518
    @kyliegrant5518 7 лет назад +14

    I have to say, even tho I say it on almost every video u upload, U did a great job on the editing.👏😭

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад +2

      Thank you so much :)

  • @philosynfonie7307
    @philosynfonie7307 7 лет назад

    I love it that nearly the whole video is basically Deans speech and Mary doesnt say a word till in the end

  • @theangelofdeath2204
    @theangelofdeath2204 7 лет назад +7

    Feel so sorry for Dean...
    ...but happy about the new upload!!! :DD
    This song - as always actually - fits the two sooo well, you captured their heart in an insanely well done way; it's awesome AngelDove, thaaaank you! ^_^

  • @ambie720
    @ambie720 7 лет назад +1

    Every single time. I'm so freaking emotional, because these videos tap into everything I'd love to do with a fanvid, but don't have the talent to accomplish. Love this so much!!!! I'm biting my nails for the day you get to my song request. ❤️

  • @LenaMuller-gr4rn
    @LenaMuller-gr4rn 7 лет назад +15

    I am at 10 seconds right now but I can already say: Amazing job, as always❤

  • @rosswinchester4367
    @rosswinchester4367 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, I am... stunned. This was a beautiful video. The color was amazing and there was just so much raw emotion. Astounding.

  • @GenesisGurl0211
    @GenesisGurl0211 7 лет назад

    That was absolutely beautifully done! Simple edits, simple cuts, nothing too flashy and it spoke VOLUMES. Nice work!

  • @deadkey
    @deadkey 7 лет назад

    Actually one of the most emotional videos of Supernatural here.

  • @julierg4885
    @julierg4885 7 лет назад +1

    I came here because of an edit in instagram and really this is so beautiful and really heartbreaking, I can't stop watching this now 💙

  • @lo-tr5mv
    @lo-tr5mv 7 лет назад +62

    i dropped everything when I got the notif

  • @zoiewinchesterthenewhunter5979
    @zoiewinchesterthenewhunter5979 7 лет назад +1

    I love it even though it is so sad. Dean really cares about his mom

  • @paolacortez500
    @paolacortez500 5 лет назад +2

    This always is going to be my favorite video of supernatural 😭❤️

  • @guitarjewlz
    @guitarjewlz 7 лет назад

    that... was... phenomenal.
    i say as i sit here trying not to bawl my eyes out..

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад +1

      aww, Thank you so much!

  • @PinkChucky15
    @PinkChucky15 7 лет назад +1

    Crying. This is sooo beautiful.

  • @aditigarg7489
    @aditigarg7489 7 лет назад +3

    I'm not crying, you are!😭😭😭
    This is beautiful😍😍😭😭

  • @LidaDudakova
    @LidaDudakova 7 лет назад +1

    I love this, love LOVE this. Great song selection, great scenes selection , great editing (as always). Thank you!

  • @samcraftstoo7616
    @samcraftstoo7616 7 лет назад

    Once again WOW, a very emotional video. I'm crying my eye's out as it hit's you right in the "feelings. " Great job as always, your brilliant at doing these. Can't wait for the next one. 👏👏👏💗💝💖👍👍👍😍😁

  • @lolawinchester4530
    @lolawinchester4530 7 лет назад +1

    OMG that hug at the end😭

  • @astaciolex
    @astaciolex 7 лет назад +3

    women i swear your videos will be the death of meeee! youre so damn amazing.. capturing every perfect scene, lines and the song for it! im so damn glad a found you!

  • @anthonymartinez517
    @anthonymartinez517 7 лет назад +17

    Who's cutting onions in here

  • @maelle4052
    @maelle4052 7 лет назад +4

    How a serie, a video can make you feel so much..?

  • @jonahkristofer
    @jonahkristofer 7 лет назад

    Holy shit! Beautiful video, haven't cried like that in a long while. Excellent work as always, keep it up the amazing videos.

  • @isyssloucks3665
    @isyssloucks3665 7 лет назад +1

    this is so freaking perfect im crying

  • @razaneabouzaid9748
    @razaneabouzaid9748 6 лет назад

    I just love the way you brought everything together the clups the song first season it is all perfect

  • @lillyath.7036
    @lillyath.7036 7 лет назад +2

    Okay now I'm crying... poor Dean😢😔❤

  • @tiffanysjogren3079
    @tiffanysjogren3079 7 лет назад

    I watch this video a lot. It kills me, but it's SO AMAZINGLY well done! I can't help but watch it over and over again

  • @pagejamie1
    @pagejamie1 7 лет назад +1

    The fact that he says "and I love you" not "but I love you" makes it more touching somehow.

  • @squirrelwinchester7432
    @squirrelwinchester7432 7 лет назад +7

    Awww my fangirl heart 😭

  • @trinityburke6813
    @trinityburke6813 7 лет назад

    I love this song so much.I can't stop listting to this song.

  • @annadau8612
    @annadau8612 6 лет назад +3

    What I see now is this: Dean is clinging onto the precious memories he had of Mary. The memories are sharply vivid and painful while Sam's memories are fuzzy and vague as a result of being a baby at the time of her untimely death. Dean is angry and confused with what Mary did to him and their family because he remembers more time and memories. Hence the "I hate you... and I love you" is so poignant to him. He's finally forgiving Mary for what she did after so many years of keeping it bottled up inside of him. It's his means of closure of sorts. Sam, on the other hand, was a baby so his memories are fuzzy and vague. He had precious little time to make any sort of long-lasting connection with his mother. Sam always had a mother-shaped hole in his heart which he wasn't ready to understand. He instead covered it up with finding a beautiful blonde haired girlfriend Jess to fill that void. He ultimately lost two significant women in the same way. When Sam has his own alone time/scene with Mary, he finally sees that his closure comes in the form of a simple but reassuring hug from her. He seals it with these gut-wrenching words: "For me just having you here fills in the biggest blank." Hence I absolutely adore this heartbreaking but beautiful tribute! Keep up the great work!!

  • @Desi1992
    @Desi1992 7 лет назад +1

    ahh okay first off amazing sweetie. second this song is prefect for these three. and third the scenes you used where perfect. I loved this. the meaning of the song well the meaning I interpreted fit very well with the storyline of the intire show now that we know what dean needed was closure. that's what the song is about. that person never getting closer the song writer I mean. The line "Say something I am giving up on you" means basically the writer is leaving there spouse or GF/BF what ever and that line is saying tell me to stay give me a reason and they the writer never got one so he gave up on the other person.
    so on that note perfect choice really great job.

  • @Infinity2205
    @Infinity2205 6 лет назад

    One of the best scenes of SPN ..Jensen is just perfect !!

  • @shanejohnson6855
    @shanejohnson6855 7 лет назад +7

    I know I'm gonna cry in this one

  • @serenitywinchester768
    @serenitywinchester768 7 лет назад +1

    So beautiful... I love it. You did a magnificent job on this.

  • @StarrySeal
    @StarrySeal 7 лет назад

    MY HEART!!!! Amazing as usual, Angel Dove.

  • @maddiekopecki1614
    @maddiekopecki1614 7 лет назад +1

    I AINT CRYING ITS RAINING ON MY FACE

  • @xxbloodqueenxx695
    @xxbloodqueenxx695 7 лет назад +1

    This is so incredible ( as your videos always are ) the audio was perfect and so was the song choice! 💕 So emotional 😭😭 I saw this notification for this well I was getting ready for the Gishwhes Tea Party and was so mad I couldn't watch it right away. 😂😂

  • @colleenbarton8340
    @colleenbarton8340 7 лет назад

    I loved this video. Made me cry like a baby. So good!

  • @ivenorea
    @ivenorea 7 лет назад +2

    wow season 12 is blowing my mind awsome

  • @enbysaurus_wrex
    @enbysaurus_wrex 7 лет назад

    Way to make me cry... And FYI that was a perfect song. Love your stuff!

  • @user-mc2em8kb3x
    @user-mc2em8kb3x 11 месяцев назад

    I love this video so much, rewatch it every year

  • @thelostbunnycastiel
    @thelostbunnycastiel 7 лет назад +1

    Okay but seriously these videos are so amazingly edited like hot potatoes (potatoes are my favorite).

  • @wendialejos5333
    @wendialejos5333 7 лет назад +1

    this video is hauntingly beautiful piece of artistry I think all the parts fit perfectly considering your time restraint ♥

  • @mamaburunduka72
    @mamaburunduka72 7 лет назад

    Can't help crying when I watch this video. If I could I would put a hundred likes. Jensen - I have no words.

  • @Aquar1u5
    @Aquar1u5 7 лет назад

    Awesome!
    I hope that Mary will come back in next season.

  • @monicamontes1203
    @monicamontes1203 7 лет назад

    This is so beautiful I'm emotional 😭

  • @lostpdreams
    @lostpdreams 7 лет назад

    You destroyed me once more
    😢😭😭 the song fits perfectly to these scenes 😍😭

  • @LostInABook247
    @LostInABook247 7 лет назад

    This is really exquisite work. You made me cry.

  • @gouravmaharshi4338
    @gouravmaharshi4338 7 лет назад

    Just Amazing Video....Heart Touching

  • @isaoliver5809
    @isaoliver5809 6 лет назад +2

    Nossa me emocionei tanto com esse episódio do início do video. Is so beautiful. 😊

  • @jessicawatson776
    @jessicawatson776 7 лет назад

    this legitimately gave me as many feels as the actual mary/dean drama in the episode.

  • @jesswiseman1699
    @jesswiseman1699 7 лет назад

    Man, I don't even like Mary and I was bawling by the end of this video. As always, BEAUTIFUL production!! ♥

  • @brendaherrera9996
    @brendaherrera9996 7 лет назад +8

    OMG YOU MAKE ME CRY.... I HATE YOU I HATE YOU .... AND I LOVE YOU

  • @akf2135
    @akf2135 6 лет назад +1

    Oh that's so sad! I can't believe Mary started all this, with Sam, and in turn, John. She's the reason they started hunting, but I do love her

  • @moose_squirrel6055
    @moose_squirrel6055 7 лет назад +1

    I love this! Perfect video as always. You inspired me to make my own channel for Supernatural videos (they'll never be as good as yours tho haha)

  • @rosiedameron6027
    @rosiedameron6027 7 лет назад +3

    I'm gonna cry now :'c but love this edit

  • @blueriver.
    @blueriver. 7 лет назад

    bloody beautiful and harrowing and heartbreaking- perfect!! and i though the song fit really well

  • @jamifulton6016
    @jamifulton6016 7 лет назад

    I am always impressed with the quality of these videos!! keep up the good work!

  • @sherriewright7024
    @sherriewright7024 7 лет назад +1

    well, my heart is broken again. but this is a wonderful vid. Thx for posting it.

  • @reedranch7723
    @reedranch7723 6 лет назад

    I cry everytime I watch this! This is excellent!

  • @hammarbykillen
    @hammarbykillen 7 лет назад +2

    Interesting take on it! When I imagined a video like this I always had the "I hate u, I love u" song in my head. But to finding the perfect song one might have to mash two together!
    Great video though, always like and fav your content! :)

    • @AngelDove
      @AngelDove  7 лет назад

      +Johan Löfgren really? If you mean the one from Gnash....the song lyrics.. have you read them? Definitely not a mother and son song unless its meant to be incest...
      Heres the lyrics
      Lyrics
      Feeling used
      But I'm
      Still missing you
      And I can't
      See the end of this
      Just wanna feel your kiss
      Against my lips
      And now all this time
      Is passing by
      But I still can't seem to tell you why
      It hurts me every time I see you
      Realize how much I need you
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I love you
      Don't want to but I can't put nobody else above you
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I want you
      You want her, you need her
      And I'll never be her
      I miss you when I can't sleep
      Or right after coffee
      Or right when I can't eat
      I miss you in my front seat
      Still got sand in my sweaters
      From nights we don't remember
      Do you miss me like I miss you?
      Fucked around and got attached to you
      Friends can break your heart too, and
      I'm always tired but never of you
      If I pulled a you on you, you wouldn't like that shit
      I put this real out, but you wouldn't bite that shit
      I type a text but then I nevermind that shit
      I got these feelings but you never mind that shit
      Oh oh, keep it on the low
      You're still in love with me but your friends don't know
      If u wanted me you would just say so
      And if I were you, I would never let me go
      I don't mean no harm
      I just miss you on my arm
      Wedding bells were just alarms
      Caution tape around my heart
      You ever wonder what we could have been?
      You said you wouldn't and you fucking did
      Lie to me, lie with me, get your fucking fix
      Now all my drinks and all my feelings are all fucking mixed
      Always missing people that I shouldn't be missing
      Sometimes you gotta burn some bridges just to create some distance
      I know that I control my thoughts and I should stop reminiscing
      But I learned from my dad that it's good to have feelings
      When love and trust are gone
      I guess this is moving on
      Everyone I do right does me wrong
      So every lonely night, I sing this song
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I love you
      Don't want to but I can't put nobody else above you
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I want you
      You want her, you need her
      And I'll never be her
      All alone I watch you watch her
      Like she's the only girl you've ever seen
      You don't care you never did
      You don't give a damn about me
      Yeah all alone I watch you watch her
      She's the only thing you've ever seen
      How is it you'll never notice
      That you are slowly killing me
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I love you
      Don't want to but I can't put nobody else above you
      I hate you, I love you
      I hate that I want you
      You want her, you need her
      And I'll never be her

    • @hammarbykillen
      @hammarbykillen 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah I know, but I was imagining just the chorus part (except the final part of course) and the you combine it with something else..