Honestly I think 3.8 being the Human Limit is highly unlikely. I'm not really good at bridging so I'm guessing my opinion doesn't matter much. However, after being in the Geometry Dash community for 7 years, the "Human Limit" that has been theorized for hardest levels, has been broken, and broken, and broken again, and again, and again, at least 30 times by now. So it's widely accepted in the community that the Human Limit can't really be theorized well enough as of now. And we see that in tons of other games as well, like Portal 2 and the infamous "Neurotoxin Sabotage" chamber (Human Limit broken multiple times because we thought we reached the fastest cycle for cutting down the neurotoxin tubes, but we kept reaching faster cycles). Back to Minecraft, the same concept can most likely be applied. Your other video talking about how 3.9 was surely the human limit as well, being broken today, really is leading me to thinking this time will not be the last the Human Limit will be surpassed. Bridging is kind of new as well, 3 years ago almost no one could even breezily or god bridge. IMO, there is plenty of room for improvement, and strategies to be discovered; Minecraft is not solved. Neither is bridging. (Note that when I say "plenty", I am *not* saying that for example one day we could get under 3 seconds, though I don't think it's impossible. I am saying that there is plenty of effort and thoughts still to be put into that unsolved question.) Though on an ending note, **from what we currently know** about Minecraft's mechanics and inner workings, it looks like we won't get any faster than 3.8 anytime soon. However, we likely haven't even tried every possible combination of known strategies. We're not safe from at one point, someone connecting the dots just the right way to make 3.7X possible, as it already was demonstrated multiple times through breaking bridging's theorized Human Limit. I'm a believer :)
ngl ur point kinda make sense but the fastest strategies might have already been found and have been applied to the wr,its might just the matter of time but at one moment the human limit will be reached,if you trying to proof the human limit is not 3.8-3.85 you should atleast explain some strategies that could be better.
@@suziu3906 I am not trying to prove that the Human Limit is not 3.8X. I am however, trying to prove that it's more than *likely* that the human limit hasn't been reached based on examples of the past and other games. I am trying to prove the likelihood (so, the chance) of the Human Limit not being reached anytime soon, rather than the *fact* that it hasn't been reached yet. We have a difference between chance and fact. So no, I don't need to talk about some strategies that could be better! :o However, it's a very interesting subject IMO :D One side note, I must say that in my original comment, the first line is "I genuinely don't think 3.8 is the Human Limit", I think it wasn't well worded and surely lead you to think that I wanted to prove that 3.8 wasn't the Human Limit, my bad! I modified it!
it is actually 3.8 which is humanly possible, since it is impossible to get perfect momentum with chained 4b flat AND/OR 4b speeds. The game Minecraft itself also offers way too less tps to actually bridge with the maximum possible time (such as andromeda bridging)
i have 2 theories that weren’t mentioned in this video firstly if you can no clutch with slab (not yet proved possible but i’d say there’s a good chance it can be done) then you can double head hitter. this would almost definitely require a 45 strafe despite that only saving 1 pixel secondly, 4b flat 5 speed triple clutch could undoubtedly be achieved. a headhitter could also be added to this (yes i’m talking about no slab) with a 45 strafe to the left. the 45 strafe wouldn’t be used just to save another pixel of time but to get a much easier angle for the headhitter overall, i think both of these strategies can save a tick when fully optimised
with your triple clutch point, triple clutch is not possible. You can get to the block were the third block would be placed, but you arent in range of the island for long enough to place the three blocks of the clutch. You could possibly get there with a 5b flat or a 4b speed, but those will take a while for anyone to learn. As for the point about no clutch with slab, its not possible either, which has been proved by tas players. Again, the player would have to do a 5b flat or a 4b speed to do that. Good points though!
When fully optimized with a 45 strafe and 1.1 5b, you could theoretically get 3.75 but if somehow, someway you find a way to get a change in gain mm keystrokes, good enough to do at least 1 4b speeds, something like dc for 5 speeds is easy. I saw a strat used by helix that allowed him to increase the speed of a speed Telly by placing 3-4 blocks in a flat line then placing a block on top while sprinting and looking forward to increase his momentum and theoretically allow for a 4+1 jump that could allow for a single clutch with the strat I mentioned if you optimize a 45 strafe and time it enough
great video i tested the 4b strategy and doing like 4 can save a bunch of time but idk if its possible with good momentum (its a triple/double lower clutch) (also I could do chained 4b consistently to a limit }}})
would 3 chained 4b's then 3 taps dc make 3.8, maybe even 3.75. I've tested this strategy a little in tas but im not sure if it would be possible to get that much momentum legit.
3.75 may be possible. Because chaining 4b flats are actually 0.05 - 0.1 seconds FASTER because when I did 1 4b flat I got 3.95 and with 2 4b flats I got 3.85. (I did it with help blocks)
The fastest no andromeda tas I've seen is 3.6 so there's definitely still a lot of time to save purely from momentum. TAS:ruclips.net/video/ftA187NL9CQ/видео.html
yeah 3.75 may be possible by doing a 1.05 flat into a normal flat to get 3.75 + perfect mm and hh. Mabye with 2 chained 1.05s can be a 3.7 idk but I think 3.7 may be the limit
@@iiNavy the 1.05 would only save time for the first flat. and anyway from doogile’s clip with 2 4b flats it doesn’t look likely that it would be a very good strat anyway cuz ud land on the plates or too close to do a hh probably (with perfect mm).
@@amplitudemc yeah but because its closer to the pressure plate you will cover a lot more distance and get a good time if you do good mm but doogile did one bad speed that i saw so he got a bad time with the strat
BTW, for everyone saying this is the human limit, just look at tas. Even tho it is for being even better then the human limit, there is tons of place to improve.
People saying that they don't think 3.8 is the limit and say we wouldn't have thought about speed telly 3 yrs ago. We knew about speed telly long ago, the problem is to discover new strategies and time saving tricks and not only apply them into a bridging method but perfect it takes months, until a new mechanic isn't added in Minecraft that changes bridging or momentum, the record of 3.8 if even achieved, wont be broken
great video, but theres a point i disagree with. i dont think we should say for sure that nobody will get a sub 3.8 time because new strategies are being developed all the time and we never know what else can happen. in speed tellying alone, tas can get a time of 3.65 seconds, which is a huge time save and who knows, someone might be able to learn tas-like momentum! what im trying to say is that theres a small chance the current world record will never be beaten, but theres also a chance for people to get 3.8 or even lower
that'd involve really robotic movement + keystrokes which i am not sure humans are able to pull off in real time, 15 tickrate maybe but thats it. unless, someone is dedicated enough to spend like a year trying to do that, then _possibly_
But there is still more time to be saved. In the 3.8, doogile used headhitters, and in another clip he got a 3.85 with no clutch doing a 45 degree strafe at the end. So yeah, there's definitely some time to be saved that's humanly possible, it's just the dedication to make it happen
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At this point with the technologies and momentum saves, I don't think that it will be possible to beat 3.8. However, the bridge community has had breakthrough after breakthrough, time and time again. I do think that there will be another few techniques discovered, with the perfect run being lowered maybe even to a 3.7. However, I don't feel that this will be achieved for another year or longer, as perfectly mastering these new strategies will be hard. I'm not sure that there will even be an achievable 3.7 time. However. as we have seen in other games, TASers have been able to find new strats and things that were never thought of before. With that though, there most likely will be a 3.75 in the future. Not the near future, but somewhere we might find it.
Did anyone else notice that this kinda is clickbait bc he literally didn’t explain how doogile got 3.85 in the first place, he just talked about possible 3.8 strats and doogile’s other thoughts on how to get 3.85
There still might be barely enough room for 3.7x, I'm guessing like 3.78 but like, it has to be so perfect like 10 times as precise as this one. Also maybe someone will find a new mechanic that will make bridging way faster
Leaked from 2080 : Minecraft 2 isnt a thing yet Doogile got 2.5 wr using andromeda The bundle still in development Fireflies are hidden in the code of minecraft Amogus 2 released
Also dont forget that u can learn everything from tas. I mean that everything that os done in tas u can recreate. I know its almost impossible but It just slows ur momentu.
4:35 3.8 isnt the final time, its only the final time IF its the limit.. you never know, there could be many more methods in the future to get a faster time..
I think that 3.750 is possible bc there is a way that ik of that could get you 3.750 and if someone can do the Andromeda Bridge that is in the tas world record like atleast one of them you can probobly get 3.750 but it is really hard so I don't know if it's possible or not
I actually doubt it… the percentage of players who bridge that are skilled enough to even compete for world record is so small that the inability to improve times probably won’t affect the community size much
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Honestly I think 3.8 being the Human Limit is highly unlikely. I'm not really good at bridging so I'm guessing my opinion doesn't matter much.
However, after being in the Geometry Dash community for 7 years, the "Human Limit" that has been theorized for hardest levels, has been broken, and broken, and broken again, and again, and again, at least 30 times by now. So it's widely accepted in the community that the Human Limit can't really be theorized well enough as of now.
And we see that in tons of other games as well, like Portal 2 and the infamous "Neurotoxin Sabotage" chamber (Human Limit broken multiple times because we thought we reached the fastest cycle for cutting down the neurotoxin tubes, but we kept reaching faster cycles).
Back to Minecraft, the same concept can most likely be applied. Your other video talking about how 3.9 was surely the human limit as well, being broken today, really is leading me to thinking this time will not be the last the Human Limit will be surpassed.
Bridging is kind of new as well, 3 years ago almost no one could even breezily or god bridge. IMO, there is plenty of room for improvement, and strategies to be discovered; Minecraft is not solved. Neither is bridging.
(Note that when I say "plenty", I am *not* saying that for example one day we could get under 3 seconds, though I don't think it's impossible. I am saying that there is plenty of effort and thoughts still to be put into that unsolved question.)
Though on an ending note, **from what we currently know** about Minecraft's mechanics and inner workings, it looks like we won't get any faster than 3.8 anytime soon. However, we likely haven't even tried every possible combination of known strategies. We're not safe from at one point, someone connecting the dots just the right way to make 3.7X possible, as it already was demonstrated multiple times through breaking bridging's theorized Human Limit.
I'm a believer :)
ngl ur point kinda make sense but the fastest strategies might have already been found and have been applied to the wr,its might just the matter of time but at one moment the human limit will be reached,if you trying to proof the human limit is not 3.8-3.85 you should atleast explain some strategies that could be better.
but like you said,the human limit will certainly be beaten if someone could master the TAS momentum,but its almost impossible like adromedan bridging
@@suziu3906 I am not trying to prove that the Human Limit is not 3.8X. I am however, trying to prove that it's more than *likely* that the human limit hasn't been reached based on examples of the past and other games.
I am trying to prove the likelihood (so, the chance) of the Human Limit not being reached anytime soon, rather than the *fact* that it hasn't been reached yet.
We have a difference between chance and fact.
So no, I don't need to talk about some strategies that could be better! :o
However, it's a very interesting subject IMO :D
One side note, I must say that in my original comment, the first line is "I genuinely don't think 3.8 is the Human Limit", I think it wasn't well worded and surely lead you to think that I wanted to prove that 3.8 wasn't the Human Limit, my bad! I modified it!
it is actually 3.8 which is humanly possible, since it is impossible to get perfect momentum with chained 4b flat AND/OR 4b speeds.
The game Minecraft itself also offers way too less tps to actually bridge with the maximum possible time (such as andromeda bridging)
@@bettloser is speed telly all we get tho..?
i have 2 theories that weren’t mentioned in this video
firstly if you can no clutch with slab (not yet proved possible but i’d say there’s a good chance it can be done) then you can double head hitter. this would almost definitely require a 45 strafe despite that only saving 1 pixel
secondly, 4b flat 5 speed triple clutch could undoubtedly be achieved. a headhitter could also be added to this (yes i’m talking about no slab) with a 45 strafe to the left. the 45 strafe wouldn’t be used just to save another pixel of time but to get a much easier angle for the headhitter
overall, i think both of these strategies can save a tick when fully optimised
with your triple clutch point, triple clutch is not possible. You can get to the block were the third block would be placed, but you arent in range of the island for long enough to place the three blocks of the clutch. You could possibly get there with a 5b flat or a 4b speed, but those will take a while for anyone to learn.
As for the point about no clutch with slab, its not possible either, which has been proved by tas players. Again, the player would have to do a 5b flat or a 4b speed to do that. Good points though!
@@WiIIem geklow did no clutch slab 💀
@@spikelegend44 no he didnt, its literally not possible, its just very close to no clutch
@@spikelegend44 or if you're talking about the clip in his 7.3 / 3.8 montage that was with 2 4b flats, not full speed
When fully optimized with a 45 strafe and 1.1 5b, you could theoretically get 3.75 but if somehow, someway you find a way to get a change in gain mm keystrokes, good enough to do at least 1 4b speeds, something like dc for 5 speeds is easy. I saw a strat used by helix that allowed him to increase the speed of a speed Telly by placing 3-4 blocks in a flat line then placing a block on top while sprinting and looking forward to increase his momentum and theoretically allow for a 4+1 jump that could allow for a single clutch with the strat I mentioned if you optimize a 45 strafe and time it enough
LOL I was just about to comment on your "This record will never be broken" Video, When I saw this.
When you not hacked this;-)
@@youtube_master7243 wut
@@youtube_master7243 that is the better grammar i have ever looking at
i am too speedy
We could just use bows instead of blocks
This is the sort of content I need, pls more, I'll simp
Doogile literally gives a different feeling talking about bridging
Crimssel: 3.8 is IMPOSSIBLE to beat!
Stratonyminer: Hold my blocks
the amount of research and time these would take to make is insane… great job lizard yet again! ❤️
Levi uncleman?
thank you!
@@itslizard np :D u really deserve it (:
4:41-5:05 That was a great outro LOL
“Speaking of final things, we are on the final stretch to 30,000 subscribers-“
great video
i tested the 4b strategy and doing like 4 can save a bunch of time but idk if its possible with good momentum
(its a triple/double lower clutch)
(also I could do chained 4b consistently to a limit }}})
dribbly just needs mm
@@itslizard ye
would 3 chained 4b's then 3 taps dc make 3.8, maybe even 3.75. I've tested this strategy a little in tas but im not sure if it would be possible to get that much momentum legit.
U can use that doogile mm strat idk
@@WiIIem it might be but tas doesnt prove much time wise since the turns are naturally going to be better
What about the wr for long?
Also can you make a video about all the current wr on all game modes on mcplayhd and them compared to tas?
3.75 may be possible. Because chaining 4b flats are actually 0.05 - 0.1 seconds FASTER because when I did 1 4b flat I got 3.95 and with 2 4b flats I got 3.85. (I did it with help blocks)
real
The fastest no andromeda tas I've seen is 3.6 so there's definitely still a lot of time to save purely from momentum.
TAS:ruclips.net/video/ftA187NL9CQ/видео.html
this one uses 4b speeds though, they do like 3 4b speeds, i definitely think its possible that someone learns 4b speeds or 5b flat
@@WiIIem fastest time without 4b speeds is 3.7 with tas
The one place where practise actually makes perfect
i was waiting for this video to come out!
I think bridging will keep upgrading by people discovering different strategies. I think 3.75 is the human limit but I may be wrong
yeah 3.75 may be possible by doing a 1.05 flat into a normal flat to get 3.75 + perfect mm and hh. Mabye with 2 chained 1.05s can be a 3.7 idk but I think 3.7 may be the limit
@@iiNavy the 1.05 would only save time for the first flat. and anyway from doogile’s clip with 2 4b flats it doesn’t look likely that it would be a very good strat anyway cuz ud land on the plates or too close to do a hh probably (with perfect mm).
@@amplitudemc yeah but because its closer to the pressure plate you will cover a lot more distance and get a good time if you do good mm but doogile did one bad speed that i saw so he got a bad time with the strat
itslizard: no one can consistently 1.05 4b flat
Crimssel: am I a joke to you?
ze
consistently is doing it nearly every time
@@obvrak that actually translates to they
@@Dribbly pretty sure he can do it nearly every time
@@amplitudemc that was a month ago, and no, he cannot
AMAZING VIDEO LIZARD! Keep up the great content!
BTW, for everyone saying this is the human limit, just look at tas.
Even tho it is for being even better then the human limit, there is tons of place to improve.
absolutely yeah
You acually remind me of another guy how makes content simillar to you but in other game called Trackmania, his name is Wirtual
Lizard:no one can do 1.05 4b flat consisteny
crimmsel:r y sure😳
People saying that they don't think 3.8 is the limit and say we wouldn't have thought about speed telly 3 yrs ago. We knew about speed telly long ago, the problem is to discover new strategies and time saving tricks and not only apply them into a bridging method but perfect it takes months, until a new mechanic isn't added in Minecraft that changes bridging or momentum, the record of 3.8 if even achieved, wont be broken
Just wanna point out Doogile never said that 3.8 was the definite time for human limitation. He simply said he thinks that it is most likely.
yeah but there’s no strats atm for anything faster than 3.8
Itslizard: 3.85 is Impossible to beat. Crimssel: hold my drink...
Better version: Crimssel: 3.800 is IMPOSSIBLE to beat.
Stratonyminer:Hold my blocks
4:37 famous last words
0:16 that intro of doogile😂😂
watch lizard be wrong about what the lowest time is again
I’ve never thought bridging in minecraft could be this serious
Been Here since you were making shorts keep it up!
What pack is lizard using
OMG that's so crazy I love your vids hope you hit 30k soon
not doogile throwing it back😭😭
Doogile is like Feliks Zemedegs but in Bridging.
great video, but theres a point i disagree with. i dont think we should say for sure that nobody will get a sub 3.8 time because new strategies are being developed all the time and we never know what else can happen. in speed tellying alone, tas can get a time of 3.65 seconds, which is a huge time save and who knows, someone might be able to learn tas-like momentum! what im trying to say is that theres a small chance the current world record will never be beaten, but theres also a chance for people to get 3.8 or even lower
that'd involve really robotic movement + keystrokes which i am not sure humans are able to pull off in real time, 15 tickrate maybe but thats it. unless, someone is dedicated enough to spend like a year trying to do that, then _possibly_
i dont really know but the tas momentum is like kinda impossible to master but it will be really nice if someone can pull it off
But there is still more time to be saved. In the 3.8, doogile used headhitters, and in another clip he got a 3.85 with no clutch doing a 45 degree strafe at the end. So yeah, there's definitely some time to be saved that's humanly possible, it's just the dedication to make it happen
What is the advantage of doing multiple flats?
@@princemonkey3052 u mean 3.85 and 3.9 lol
"the human limit" skull emoji
skull emoji times seven
this is like trachmania speedrunning
*when 4b flats are possible
GOD BRIDGING IS NOW CALLED NOOB BRIDGING
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At this point with the technologies and momentum saves, I don't think that it will be possible to beat 3.8. However, the bridge community has had breakthrough after breakthrough, time and time again. I do think that there will be another few techniques discovered, with the perfect run being lowered maybe even to a 3.7. However, I don't feel that this will be achieved for another year or longer, as perfectly mastering these new strategies will be hard.
I'm not sure that there will even be an achievable 3.7 time. However. as we have seen in other games, TASers have been able to find new strats and things that were never thought of before.
With that though, there most likely will be a 3.75 in the future. Not the near future, but somewhere we might find it.
Did anyone else notice that this kinda is clickbait bc he literally didn’t explain how doogile got 3.85 in the first place, he just talked about possible 3.8 strats and doogile’s other thoughts on how to get 3.85
the 3.85 came from a change in momentum that cut the time of a slab headhitter down by a tick
That makes sense
Ty
keep in mind the wr with tas and autoplace is 3.650 so i think with 5b flat or 1.05 4b it would be possible to do 3.8 or even less
Doogile is just the best bridger
Doogile in 2025: this is how i got 0.00
Gonna be great when doogile breaks the 1.16 rsg world record
*laughs in scaffold*
What’s the blocks per second in a speed telly?
approximately 6.8
4:53 best transition. So close to yt rank!
Bro. You put so so so much effort into your vids! Even at 24k youre sooooo underrated keep it up
Been here since 1.4k. Hope you remember me
doogile: "I dont know if anyone would ever beat 3.8"
BedlessNoob: *Am i a joke to you?*
bedless can't even telly properly, stop being such a fanboy 💀
good lord the bedlessnoob stans are getting worser by the minutes
@@PrototypeLightLight FR
whats the background music at 4:29
the minecraft ... the new intro :0
Loving this insanely underrated video!
“3.8 is the final wr” well 3.75 is the current wr
11 months later
3.75 is the current wr
1 year later and the record is still 3.75
You should add a animation to the subtitles, that way it looks better! :D
There still might be barely enough room for 3.7x, I'm guessing like 3.78 but like, it has to be so perfect like 10 times as precise as this one. Also maybe someone will find a new mechanic that will make bridging way faster
just wanted to say, minecraft runs on 20 tps, each tick is 0.05 seconds long, so technically it would be 3.8 since it rounds up (sometimes idk)
Leaked from 2080 :
Minecraft 2 isnt a thing yet
Doogile got 2.5 wr using andromeda
The bundle still in development
Fireflies are hidden in the code of minecraft
Amogus 2 released
The word impossible literally says I'm possible
5b 6 speeds no clutch slab might be possible + hh
Also dont forget that u can learn everything from tas. I mean that everything that os done in tas u can recreate. I know its almost impossible but It just slows ur momentu.
4:35 3.8 isnt the final time, its only the final time IF its the limit.. you never know, there could be many more methods in the future to get a faster time..
UR ALMOST TO 30k!
zjekkie broke world record 3.8
me who isnt even consistent in speed bridging:
Crimssel can do 1.05 flat so might beat it
the human limit in 24/03/2023 is 3.55 or 3.65 with ''deathbridging''
Death bridging aka an April fools joke😂
itzlizard: The number one bridger in minecraft - doogile
doogile be like: meh dont really care i just want to twerk :p
u could do a drop 3 clutch
crazy vide when u upload u made my day
My man talks like if he is a scientist or something, like "years of developing in bridging." And so on.
i am almbrt enistin
so?
@@magicman256 u don't understand jokes don't you?
@@GulmeeGaming i do i thought you were being serious
we need to get a tas in on this
Your voice changed a lot holyyy
omg thats amazing
what about a double head hitter asks itslizard doogile: no 10 mounths later double head hitter is a start for 3.75
I think that 3.750 is possible bc there is a way that ik of that could get you 3.750 and if someone can do the Andromeda Bridge that is in the tas world record like atleast one of them you can probobly get 3.750 but it is really hard so I don't know if it's possible or not
Lets wrap it all up, in the next couple years there probably going to be a faster way thhan speed telly
HighMuumiu,kilness
In maybe 10 years andromeda bridging will be achievable lmao
and what is the TAS limit
2022 : "3.8 is the FINAL TIME that anyone will ever get".
3022 : OMG I JUST REACHED 0.01 SECONDS LEGIT 100%
Bedrock players: Hold my beer.
0:52 no its actally 0.16
but swift sneak
How can a 5 minute video be so good 😫
I just love how she doogile in a sus way :)
Nah Doogile is built different
if they reach the 3.8 point, bridging is definitely gonna die A LOT
I actually doubt it… the percentage of players who bridge that are skilled enough to even compete for world record is so small that the inability to improve times probably won’t affect the community size much
0:45 pack ?..
nice growth on your channel! (Modfr on a different account)
Track down the first ever telly Bridger.
Dude doogile is not a human
just wait until someone busts out full andromeda bridge and get like 2.9
That wont happend tho
@@duartevader2709 believe in the dreaaaaaaaaaaam
@@dylanplaying8550 ehhhhh, not even with TAS that was achived so i dont think i belive it XD
@@duartevader2709 someone is probably gonna practice like 500 hours straight, get the muscle memory for the mouse movements, then go god mode
@@dylanplaying8550 it wont happend its impossible
The commentary and editing is actually good. Keep it up. And no im not a bot. To verify that, then, uh, idk
Crimssel got 3.8 for info
in 2080 be like Guys i just got 2.9
the guy who get 0.500 with ghostblock
and to think people can solve a rubik's cube faster than tht
Can trycs beat Doogile with andromeda bridge?
Doogile did it without hh or slab and got 3.9 with 45 strafe
3.75 i think is the limit maybe chaining these 1.05 4 block flats 2 or 3 times can get 1 3.75