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My TOP 10 Oceanliner Liners | 30,000 Subscribers Special
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- Join me live as we count down my picks for the top 10 greatest ocean liners of all time! I am looking forward to celebrating the 30,000 subscriber milestone with my wonderful community!
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Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s great ocean liners - from Titanic to Queen Mary but not forgetting the likes of Empress of Ireland or Chusan. Join Mike Brady as he uncovers the myths, explains the timelines, logistics and deep dives into the lives of the people and ocean liner ships that we all know and love.
0:00 Intro
6:40 Number 10
12:16 Number 9
15:40 Number 8
19:40 Number 7
23:58 Number 6
29:50 Number 5
35:40 Number 4
45:15 Number 3
53:07 Number 2
57:50 Number 1.5
59:00 Number 1
rms queen, rms queen elizabeth, rms olympic, rms britannic, rms titanic, kronprinzessin cecilie, kaiser wilhelm II, kaiser wilhelm der grosse, kronprinz wilhelm, ss rex, ss conte di savoia, ss bremen, ss europa, ss johan van oldenbarnavelt, rms lusitania, rms mauretania, ss united states, ss america, ss normandie, ss france
Anyone else notice how Mike's 'Top Ten Ocean Liners' was actually about 33 ships, not including his 'honourable mentions? Hey, it's his channel, his rules!😁 PS - I'm a Brit and think that Normandie was elegance personified.
I'm just so indecisive! Haha
@@OceanlinerDesignsLol, it's not just you!
Special Interests can be like that! There's just so much to love that asking us to whittle it down can seem impossible.
Like for me, (I work with dogs for a living,) people will ask for my favorite dog breed and it's a three-way tie for first place. Or my top 5 favorite daycare dogs is actually 6 dogs, I count the pair of siblings as one bc I needed the extra space on the list! (And of course the daycare list has to be separate from my pet sitting/walking list of favorites bc there's NO way I could choose-)
It happens 😅
Glad to see a fair share of Clydebuilt ships here. It's only a shame we don't built ships like the Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth, QE2, Lusitania, and Aquitania on Glasgow's River Clyde anymore. Brings a tear to a Scotsman's eye.
Check out one of the multiple YT videos on the ship breakers of Alang, Gujurat on the coast of lndia. After that have a listen to Mark Knopfler's "So Far From The Clyde." Nothing like it.
If I was a crazy billionaire who dreamed of building a modern ocean liner, I'd pick nowhere else to build her than Clydebank. After all, my favorite liner, the Queen Mary, was built there.
I think Aquitania is hugely under appreciated , and would love to see a whole video comparing her with the contemporary Olympic class . Both Olympic and Aquitania saw long service lives , but Aquitania went on to be the longest surviving four stacker .
@@derekheeps1244 the ship beautiful.
@@wildsmileyI’d want it riveted too lol
Normandie was a beautiful ship and tastefully done inside and out she was innovative in many ways I had no idea people hate her she is a wonderful ship so was France
Normandie was and continues to be one of the most beautiful ships ever built. I’d have put her higher on the list. The France was also a beautiful ship before the Norwegians got ahold of her.
was their suppose to be a sister ship to normandie?
@@randomrazr Yes, the BRETAGNE. There were two visions for it. An all Tourist Class version with a radical new design by Vladimir Yourkevich, and a conventional two funneled design, which the CGT ultimately decided on, but, alas, war got in the way.
i agree with Dean Stephen
Wrong.
@@Toast0808 You know your stuff. Sadly, Normandie caught fire 2 days after my parents wedding in New Jersey, and you could smell it over there. Sadder still, Russian emigrant
Yourkevich was IN NYC when it caught fire. He rushed to the pier, begging the fireboats to stop, and let it burn out. They refused, and it capsized that night. Many suspected N*zi
sabotage, but not true: outrageous incompetence States side. Old saying: "If truth is the 1st casualty of war, beauty is most certainly the 2nd".
The Normandy was spectacular. She was lost to us in 1942.
Here's my story on my favorite Ocean Liner of all time, the SS Normandie. All your choices are basically the same that I would have listed.
Back in 2008, I was living in San Francisco and I was invited to participate in a focus group about a new kind of credit card. There were 18 people in the group and we all had to introduce our self's by answering this question, If you had a time machine where would you go and why? I was the second to last to answer the question and everyone wanted to go into the future. When it came to me I calmly said "May 29, 1935." Everybody looked at me with questions in their eyes and asked me "Why that date?" I simply said "That I would have loved to have been on the maiden voyage of the greatest ocean liner ever conceived the SS Normandie." I explained that the SS Normandie was a brief moment in time and that her design transcended a time that will never come again. Plus I was also on the Board of the Art Deco Society - I lead all the Art Deco Architecture Historic Walks. Plus I was a known Francophile. I love everything French - Architecture, Fashion ( Christian Dior, Yves Saint Laurent and Pierre Balmain), Automotive Design (Gabriel Voisin, Talbot-Lago, Delage, and Delahaye), and Food.
During World War II my father served in the European Theater when he was sent home to the United States he sailed on the RMS Aquitania and he would tell me how beautiful she was inside even though it was 1945 and she was still outfitted as a troop ship.
Aquitainia was sublime. What a gracious looking ship!
Yes yes yes! Brilliant selection! Shame Empress of Britain, Leonardo Da Vinci, last Kungsholm etc had to be left of!
I don't get why so many are against Normandie, either. She was a beautiful ship and I can only imagine what she could have done to aid the allies in WWII. With her speed and size combined with QM and QE, there is no telling. Great live stream, sad I had to miss it.
Very short, wide funnels.
Normandie forever ♥️
I was going to say this but you beat me to it: how can anyone who loves ships hate Normandie? Anyone who has an appreciation for engineering, design, or art would at least respect and value her.
There's no hatred!
She did finish third but got cut off due to the war as well and scuttling.
@@peoplehavetherights no hatred from our friend at Ocean Liner Designs and Illustrations. He was saying that when he mentioned Normandie as one of his favorites people were posting throwing up emojis in the feed.
Sadly Americans these days largely dislike France and the French. This is a “freedom fries” knee-jerk reaction to France maintaining its own foreign policy whenever Uncle Sam takes his English poodle out for a walk. These people should remember that the US probably wouldn’t exist but for France.
For some people she may be a bit too much, her public rooms were really impressive for like a museum, but for a ship were you live for a couple of days, they seem not so comfortable.
@chrisi06 Sure, and that's fine, but feeling that a ship is too grand for one's preferences and comfort is different from hatred and disdain. It shouldn't prevent anyone from appreceating world-class craftsmanship, innovative hydrodynamic design, and technology that changed the way ships were made and raised the bar in style, elegance, and service. Normandie was more than a match for Queen Mary's speed even though she used far less fuel, because of her forward-thinking engineering. There's just so much to say and it's hard to understand why any appreciator of ships would hate this one, even if she was fancier than they happen to prefer.
Love and am obsessed by the Normandie
Growing up in New York City in the 50's and 60's, living on the lower bay Narrows, the passenger ships were easily identified, and I could name them from a distance without seeing their nameboard. The biggest sensation was when the QE 2 arrived. Now I would be hard pressed to see a difference between cruise ships and livestock carrying ships. The lifeboats would be one clue that it is carrying people instead of cows.
There's a good reason you would be hard pressed to see a difference between cruise ships and live stock carrying ships. They're both ugly as hell and the only real difference is that human passengers willingly pay to be treated like cattle and eat often poisonous food, while the cattle are traveling unknowingly and in misery to their impending slaughter, sometimes to be later be eaten by the passengers of the cruise ships.
Livestock carriers before WW1 were more elegant than today's cruise ships!
Trés bon for putting the Normandie in the top of wonderful ships! I was lucky enough to snag replica of the Lalique clock give to maiden voyage guests. Truly fantastic design throughout. It was magnifique! Merci, merci, merci beaucoup.
You are right about #1 Queen Mary. She is my all time favourite. Regards from Canada 🇨🇦
I worked on liners when they were aquiverlent to buses today but far more beautiful. It cheers me that you love liners as much as I do. I’m afraid cruse ships do not have thee aesthetic consideration’s that ocean liner’s had. Spending six years bobbing around the world’s oceans in a tin can but wouldn’t swop that with any other experience I loved it. Thank you for your postings they make me feel quiet nostalgic.
When people hate on Normandie I just become genuinely confused...so I agree with you, Mike!
I came in later to the live. Normandie was impeccable. She was FABULOUS!! The Lalique fixtures alone were fantastical! I just have to say thank you for loving all of these liners! Each broadest presentation is a confection! I love your content. I love the way you present it. I love your fashion sense. I love your accent. I love your encyclopedic knowledge of these liners. You are amazing!!
Okay, I was thinking of what you should cover next. I have two suggestions. First, wouldn't it be fun to cover Recreation on the Great Liners? Show the pools, the tennis courts, the gyms of the liners. It would be fascinating.
And then -- I suggest covering the transition from liner to cruise ship. I would certainly suggest Sitmar or Chandris.
Okay, if you come to Texas, let us know and we will host you and help you sail out of Galveston. Thank you for all you do!!
30,000-500,000 is an insane jump
There’s no great hate for the NORMANDIE. Just a very small group who are insanely jealous because their preferred liner doesn’t get the praise, love, and adoration that NORMANDIE receives and deserves. She was a chic, beautiful, stunning French mademoiselle and no ship has ever surpassed her overall. And no ship ever will.
Well-said :)
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
Yeah I don’t like it tbh.
I don't like Normadie cause she was to much in my opinion, not because I'm jealous, that and the small group of fans who hate on people that don't praise her
@@Delirious_Imperius I don't like Normandie because I don't like the style, that's it. I don't like art deco on ships.
RMS Queen Mary 2 is my top 1 favorite ocean liner
You are right about Normandy, beautiful ship - AND electric powered too (OK by oil-fired boilers but...)
Olympic & Queen mary 🔥🔥😍😍
I’m catching up on this channel like crazy. Partly because it’s so informative but also Mike is a likeable and watchable personality. Loving it!
"The Lurline" (pronounced "Lurleen") was my mom's favorite ship as she worked for the Matson Line. She had beautiful first class menus that you could tape together as my big sister did, to make a sort of history of Hawaii in Art Deco style...
We went to see the American Star off the coast of Fuerteventura in the late 90s. We hired a jeep and drove across the island. There were no proper roads to it. By the time we seen her she had broken in half. It was a sad sight, though you could still see she was a beautiful ship. The sea around there is very rough, it’s amazing she lasted as long as she did, sitting there with huge waves crashing against her.
Like you, love Normandie, see her as part of a succession of liners, Paris, Ile de France, Normandie, France....
I agree with the Queens being the greatest liners of all time. The most beautiful of all has to be the Normandie.
What a lovely man I love how much effort and knowledge he puts in and u can see how enthusiastic and happy he is about each topic . xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Nice frozen smile at the end. It reminds me of your classic demonstration of the "rudeness" of Titanic's Marconi operator by brushing off a friend's cell phone call. Pure gold.
As an ex marine coast station radio operator, I can say that the MGY's operator was not being deliberately "rude". The reason's why the "SU" was sent to the Californian was due to the signal from her close proximity overwhelming the MGY's reception.
The Marconi radio installation aboard Titanic was primarily to earn revenue for them from radiotelegrams from passengers and the shipping line. It was of course used for safety of life at sea purposes, such as ice and meteological reports, and for emergency events.
@@bazza945 Not sure what your point is. Mike's previous video showed precisely that it wasn't rudeness, just normal Marconi Operator banter.
I have loved ocean liners ever since a child in Southampton where I could see the funnel of the QE2 whenever she was in from just up the road from my parents house. I spent a wealth of time at the Wool House museum each Saturday morning when I wasn't playing soccer and even began writing a book when I was about nine on the "Great Ocean Liners". It was never finished but I think there's still a copy at my parent's house. I've now visited the QM twice, my favourite ship as well. Such an awe inspiring sight yet somehow spooky and quite saddening to see her deteriorating state. Unfortunately though, my father's cabin, he was the last ship's carpenter, was removed along with the third class cabins but I still have the brass plate he took from the 'carpenters' mess.
Binging this channel thanks to Sam from Historic Travels. I clicked for the Titanic videos but gained so much knowledge on other great ships :) Thanks for the excellent content!
What a fantastic website you have done!
I've never been on board, but I loved reading "The Only Way To Cross."
Hello, thank you fo your great work, I enjoy your videos a lot. At 17:23, you mention the "Stars & Stripes" flying from Europa's foremast - well this is in fact the city flag of Europa's port of registry Bremen (my hometown!), where the headquarters of the North German Lloyd were (merged in 1970 with the HAPAG (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft) of Hamburg to become today's Hapag-Lloyd). Bremen was built by the shipyard A.G. Weser in Bremen and commissioned in 1929, whereas Europa was built by Blohm & Voss in Hamburg and commisioned in 1930 (the delay being caused by an on board fire during fitting out and the subsequent repairs). Best regards!
can't believe i missed this, hes so wholesome.
Your technical drawings and animations of Grand Liners are way more than merely OK-they are so impressive, helping us gain deep insight-simply superb work :-) Thank you!
Great list of beautiful ships. Long, sleek, graceful,beautiful. You can’t compare the huge ugly monstrosities that are built today. Now the Queen Mary, Your no.1 choice was spot on. Having been on that glorious ship. Great choice.👏👏👍🏻.
I was hoping to see The Oceanic. I worked on her for 3 years and have many great memories of her.
I recently stayed overnight on the Queen Mary (and had some very strange unexplainable experiences). I wish they had funding to give her a facelift. Even the suites are kind of rundown. But what a beauty. I'm glad she ranked #1 Mike!
Micheal,for a marina in the 5060your story’s given me a lot of really important information that you so eloquently pass on in easy way.i get that liners mean as much to you as it has to me,the exterior is its me that can bring tears
Well deserved mention for the "Beautiful Sisters" of P&O's 'Strath' ships. All of which, i.i.r.c, were built in my home town, on which they bestowed at least two legacies. One, of comparatively short duration, apparently being a disproportionate number of local houses boasting very smart buff coloured exterior paintwork. The second and more longer lasting being a series of Walney Island street names that still commemorate them today.
I was so happy to see you put the Ballin Trio on this list … having been heartbroken at your previous critiques of these ladies. Then you smashed my heart to pieces by leaving off the Nieuw Amsterdam - the absolute most beautiful ship ever built. Ahhh Mike … you kill me. I’ve actually stayed on the Rotterdam, which is a hotel in Rotterdam now. Wonderful experience to board an actual historic ocean liner.
My top 10:
1. Nieuw Amsterdam
2. Leviathan / Ballin Trio
3. Queen Mary/Elizabeth
4. Ile de France
5. Mauretania I
6. Aquitainia
7. Olympic Class
8. Rotterdam
9. Belgenland
10. Mauretania II
Honorable mention: Bremen/Europa, Statendam II, Normandie, Leonardo da Vinci
Love your channel!!!
I love the Ballin trio. I have a 39-minute documentary about the Imperator class on my channel. You're welcome to take a look if you'd like.
I have to agree that Nieuw Amsterdam probably should have been on the list.
@@DeanStephen thanks! 😊
I think you're right.... I like all of them , no matter who puts what ship where on their list. Just love the look of them, especially the older ones.
Oh my gosh I never knew about the blue ribbon on perroni being on memory of rex what a delightful Mann x
There's a cheese brand that is named after the French liner the Ile de France and has the logo of a two funnel ship like the liner in her post-war years.
There is also a cheese brand named after the NORMANDIE
Hi Mike, I am subscribed and watching from Western New York State 👍😊
Greetings from Melbourne, Australia! :)
I knew it! I called it! The Johan van Oldenbarnevelt reigns supreme!
My parents did a trip from Wellington to New York on JVO in 1961. They enjoyed it a lot. Thank you for another great video.
For long-lasting impact, Queen Mary is unbeatable, but I like the Normandie better. Never has there been a better-looking ocean liner.
My number ONE Oceanlimer is Nieuw Amsterdam. I made two Atlantic crossings with her. The first was a westward bound crissing Rotterdam New York from June 11th to June 19 in 1969. The second crossing was the return trip from June 24 to July 1 in 1971.
Excellent picks, I agree with you. Ya I don’t get why people hate in the Normandie, although the Queen Mary is my fave, Normandie is the most beautiful
I remember as a child with my dad driving through Peireus .. and I looked right, and down this street I saw the France, with the towering “France” lettering on the top part of the ship
Great big move , this Channell , nautical study and part time explorer are my go too
I feel honoured to be included in such a qualified list :)
Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse is the liner my great-grandmother immigrated to America on.
Another interesting Quirk about the Aquitainia is that she was a Beautiful ship! But they had to give her a second wheelhouse because the original one in the photograph was apparently too low so she was given a second one above the one in the photo which just made her even more stunning to look at
Great list Mike, got to cruise on the Norway/France, and I’m glad she was high on your list! See my avatar.
I always preferred the Queen Elizabeth over the Queen Mary. The latter always looked ungainly, while the former and Normandie had beautiful lines and proportion.
I'm so glad they reopened the Queen Mary to sail again!!
Normandie was a tragic loss. The fire was completely preventable.
i'm surprised that canberra and oriana weren't on the list
they are my favorite P&O liners and i'd love to see a video about them
Canberra yes, Oriana meh.
@@miketackabery7521 ok oriana looked kind of weird but she was still a well built ship
The glasses look great!
I really like all the choices on the list, I pretty much agree with all of them on the list.
Normandie is my favorite ship actually
My top 3 are United States, Queen Mary, Aquitania, so in my very humble opinion your list is just about perfect LOL!
Love this. It’s YOUR list, you put them where ever you want. I do look forward to a Ballin video, Swedish American Line and Matson. The original 4: Malolo/Matsonia, Mariposa, Monterey and Lurline, had incredible careers. You gotta give Chandris some love for saving 3 of them. Home Lines took Mariposa and renamed her Homeric
Wish I could’ve been here. Even set an alarm to be up early but I’ve got Covid so I just fell back asleep. Congrats on 30k
Hope you feel better soon!
Hello from Latvia as well🤭🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻
Solid reasons for the #1 pick
William Francis Gibbs most important design wasn't an ocean liner; it was the Liberty Ship.
I could not agree more than your number one
I am biased as I served on the Queen Elizabeth in the 60"s a wonderful ship.
I also served on Mauritania 2 , Chusan and Himalaya
Totally enjoy your channel as a very old sea dog .
You mentioned the awe of seeing an ocean liner pull up and how you don't get the same thing with cruise ships, and I wanted to share an experience!
Unfortunately, I don't have the same experience seeing any ocean liners in operation... Only ever seen the Japanese ocean liner NYK Hikawa Maru which is permanently harbored in Yokohama as a floating museum. Interestingly, though, the day I discovered the Hikawa Maru (just happened to be wandering around Yokohama a few months ago), JUST next to it was docked a destroyer from the JMSDF (maritime self-defense force). I've seen cruise ships before, moving and docked, and it was of some interest to me just to see a massive ship moving, but both the Hikawa Maru and the destroyer were simply *gorgeous* in a different way.
Hastily took photos of both ships as best I could (although none turned out as stunning as both ships were), but the most AMAZING thing happened when the destroyer pulled out of the harbor followed by several other destroyers from areas I hadn't seen, all making their departure together into the greater Tokyo Bay. Though I'm much more into ocean liners overall, watching the convoy of destroyers head out was a totally unexpected but extremely memorable moment for me.
I hope to have more experiences like that in the future!
I unfortunately missed the stream but I love nomandie's design and fun fact the reason she is the shape she is,is for maximum speed and minimum wake
Frisit it's the ones that didn't sink love the story telling Mike thx
I like them ALL!!!
2 ships of iconic designs, ahead of their day, worthy of mention were the Canberra with it's rear twin funnels and the Oriana with it's dormant false funnel
Both beautiful ships. Canberra a troop ship in the Falklands war too
There is something about the Carpathia and her two half sister ships, and it has legendary status of course
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Greetings from 🇫🇷 !
Those are some beautiful ships!
In most cases the lines don’t really have a choice about their ships being seized for use in war.
For a Dutch liner, the SS Rotterdam, run by the Holland Amerika Lijn, would have been a nice inclusion. Which has nothing to do with the fact that I used to live in the port of Rotterdam for 20 years, the port where the SS Rotterdam is restored and functioning as a hotel 😉
I had no idea the Bismarck became the Majestic. The heck! 😮
Normandie Perished 9 Feb 1942. France arrived at Pier 88 on 8 Feb 1962
On your point about Olympic and Titanic having shared heads in 1st Class, it's what naval ships are like. Even officers share heads/showers except the CO, XO, and Navigator (on some ship classes).
My favourite ship is RMS Lusitania. But my favourite shipping company is The White Star Line!
New Amsterdam.. she was one of the few to actually make a profit from the 1930's well in to the 1960's and she wasn"t the largest or the fastest, she was just GOOD and THAT is what matters
I loved ocean liners since I was the age of 7.
[Jan 2024 comment]: 6:25 and still not properly started! We love your work and need you to *get going!* Streaming troubles no biggie, as they say.
Does anybody here know how to get a hold of a list of ocean liners still running today? We are not terribly interested in modern cruise ships. This channel has been a real eye-opener.
It would be interesting to hear you talk about the second France, which was launched just a few days (weeks ?) after the titanic and had a really similar design, with a lot of improvement that, I think, were implemented even before the Titanic sinking. The France/Norway is the third of its name, and the first was, I believe, a ship from the late 19th century.
Anyway, greetings from France (the country with the baguette and stinky cheese ^^)
Only got up to no.5 at this point, but if Strathnever and her replacement Canberra aren't mentioned...
I enjoyed this. Thanks for your content.
I Was On Your Website its very Nice I Respect You And Every Of Your Drawings!💙 I Know It Takes Very Long To Draw These Ship I Really Do And Thats Why Respect You
The SS Normandie is at the top of my list for hull design alone.
I know the opulent interior design was a big selling point for its customers, but they are all opulent and luxurious! All the ships were loaded with glitz. (Well, maybe the Swedish ships are the exception) It doesn't matter that much to me. Haha!
I'm more about good ship design. Good construction. The technology race of the propulsion method.
Anyway, At least I can't think of a reason not to like Normandie
One ship that never gets much mention because her life span was so short is the Beautiful little Awatea From New Zealand's Union Steamship Company. Can you please do a video on her?
My Top 12:
1. SS/MS Queen Elizabeth 2 (1969-2008)
2. RMS Olympic (1911-35)
3. RMS Aquitania (1914-49)
4. SS Ile de France (1927-58)
5. RMS Adriatic (1907-34)
6. SS United States (1952-69)
7. MV Britannic (1930-60)
8. SS France/SS Norway (1962-74, 1980-2003)
9. SS Europa/SS Liberte (1930-39, 1950-61)
10. SS Belgenland (1923-36)
11. RMS Majestic (1922-36)
12. RMS Empress of Britain (1931-40)
My guy you are amazing and badass. Thank you for all the work you do and the art you create. Can’t wait to purchase my first print. I think I’m going to go with the Olympic (war paint) !
I don’t have a top ten, just a top three: NORMANDIE, QUEEN MARY, and the UNITED STATES. After that, there are just ships that I really like. Some other favorites: CHAMPLAIN, CONTE DI SAVOIA, QUEEN ELIZABETH, ILE DE FRANCE, L’ATLANTIQUE and several others.
l'Atlantique! Oh Yeah!
My Favourites are Definentely the Normandie and QE2. Thank you for the video.
The Queen Mary still holds the record for the most passenger to sail at one time with over 16000s troops plus over 1000s crew.
Imagine the effect if Long beach had got both Queens? It would be unsurpassed as the Mecca for ship enthusiasts and a tremendous visual of what both those ships did during the War, carrying, over a million troops between them, if only ship preservation could be made profitable but the Queen Mary has had many ups and downs over the last 55 years or so and it's a credit to the city that they've persevered in keeping her and as she gets older she will become more treasured as something unique and her hundredth birthday will come in a decade .
You tell em Mike
Queen Elizabeth 2 and Queen Mary 2 were in service together for almost five years, from January 2004 (when QM2 entered service) to November 2008 (when QE2 was retired).