What an awesome treat!! You don't hear the psalms done like this anymore; such movement; such speech rhythm; just absolutely gorgeous!! May God be praised!
At Southwell Minster in the 1970's under Kenneth Beard we used to sing the psalms quickly and with expression rather like thus. There is a recording of Choral Evensong from October 1977 on RUclips on this channel. I'm on that recording as one of Cantoris, singing the second treble line.
Thank you VERY MUCH for uploading THIS! This is the second recording of the St. Paul's service by Howells that I have listened to this week courtesy of your channel so I shall soon know it off by heart! (The other one was Barry Rose's superlative rendition from St. Paul's Cathedral in 1978.) Interesting that the two services both featured a chanted Creed. Oh, I LOVE the Stone setting of the Lord's Prayer especially from King's! I'm still listening while I write sorry I know that's not playing cricket... Shortly after this recording was made, Boris Ord retired and someone moved to Cambridge from Worcester and then there was no stopping them!!! (King's College Choir, I mean...)
PS I hope that comment didn't sound derogatory towards Boris Ord; both he and his predecessor Dr A.H. Mann did so much for the Choir of King's College, Cambridge to help make it what it is today. It's just that the late Sir David Willcocks (1919 - 2015) is a long-standing personal hero of mine!
Better, for my money! I was weaned on the Willcocks recordings of Howells, so I have a great and enduring fondness for them, but this is far more colourful, nuanced and developed singing, especially the A.T.B. lay clerks (dispensed with since DW's time). Their style contributes to the vocal culture of the boys' sound, which is all the better for it. Thank you for this wonderful, priceless sonic artefact!!
Yes Intoningbthe Creed once was always done and in my humble opinion should still be done if it intended to sing the Lesser Litany and Lord's Prayer. If not resume the sing at O Lord show thy mercy upon us. We still observe this at the village Church where I play
To be fair there aren't too many directions a choir can go once it's reached perfection; and under Boris Ord music at Kings was perfection. If only Boris Ord had been born 6 decades later when recording technology became able to faithfully record all the nuances that Boris was achieving.
Why are organist always appointed choirmasters? Why not appoint a true choral expert? And most organist and so called choral experts these day, don't know how to correctly train boys and girls how to sing correctly; lowered relaxed jaw, throat and Adam's apple.
The position of the organist and choirmaster is typically combined due to the nature of the work and those who are in those positions. Many of them were choristers who also excelled at piano and later were students of organ. Being an organ scholar at a place like King's you become immersed even further into that world, mastering the repertory of hundreds of choral works with organ accompaniment. I agree that not all are great voice teachers or models of singing, which is why many choristers today also take private or small group voice lessons as a part of their choir school education too.
@@wftjet I know full well the situations. I am a former Anglican cathedral choirmaster and organist, concert violist, professor of voice and composer. I have been in men and boy choirs for many decades. I studied with George Guest, David Willcocks, George Thalben-Ball and many others. I am considered a world class expert on the adolescent voice and classical sacred music. With all respect to many of my great teachers and many other choirmasters, they were in fact organist first and foremost. Guest and Ord knew the singing voice well of boys! On occasion I have heard some correct singing come from the boys at Montserrat, Thomaskircke and Drakensburg, some boy choirs in Russia and a few other eastern countries. I have spent my whole life studying the adolescent voice and many vocal teachers are clueless as to what to do with a child's voice. They have forgotten that the basic foundation is built upon "yawning."
@@SarumChoirmaster I have not heard of the amazing yawn technique in quite a while. Maybe that's why everyone sounds so pinched towards the top end these days.
What a delight Choral Evensong as it should be thank you
What an awesome treat!! You don't hear the psalms done like this anymore; such movement; such speech rhythm; just absolutely gorgeous!! May God be praised!
At Southwell Minster in the 1970's under Kenneth Beard we used to sing the psalms quickly and with expression rather like thus. There is a recording of Choral Evensong from October 1977 on RUclips on this channel. I'm on that recording as one of Cantoris, singing the second treble line.
At last - a Boris who is capable of running something.
Rest in Peace, Hugh Maclean, 5th Jan 1930 - 30th July 2017, the first Canadian to be Organ Scholar at King's College Cambridge.
This is truly phenomenal. I don't know how I missed this one until today.
Wonderful my kind of music
Chants to the Psalms are Psalm 93 - Sir Joseph Barnby. Psalm 94 vv. 1 - 17 William Woodcock vv. 18 - end William Crotch
Thank you VERY MUCH for uploading THIS! This is the second recording of the St. Paul's service by Howells that I have listened to this week courtesy of your channel so I shall soon know it off by heart! (The other one was Barry Rose's superlative rendition from St. Paul's Cathedral in 1978.) Interesting that the two services both featured a chanted Creed. Oh, I LOVE the Stone setting of the Lord's Prayer especially from King's! I'm still listening while I write sorry I know that's not playing cricket... Shortly after this recording was made, Boris Ord retired and someone moved to Cambridge from Worcester and then there was no stopping them!!! (King's College Choir, I mean...)
PS I hope that comment didn't sound derogatory towards Boris Ord; both he and his predecessor Dr A.H. Mann did so much for the Choir of King's College, Cambridge to help make it what it is today. It's just that the late Sir David Willcocks (1919 - 2015) is a long-standing personal hero of mine!
Delighted you have enjoyed! Boris Ord left Willcocks a very fine choir as we can hear from this recording.
I'm just about to tune in to the Evensong from Salisbury directed by Dr Douglas Guest who then SUCCEEDED David Willcocks at Worcester!
Better, for my money! I was weaned on the Willcocks recordings of Howells, so I have a great and enduring fondness for them, but this is far more colourful, nuanced and developed singing, especially the A.T.B. lay clerks (dispensed with since DW's time). Their style contributes to the vocal culture of the boys' sound, which is all the better for it. Thank you for this wonderful, priceless sonic artefact!!
Yes Intoningbthe Creed once was always done and in my humble opinion should still be done if it intended to sing the Lesser Litany and Lord's Prayer. If not resume the sing at O Lord show thy mercy upon us. We still observe this at the village Church where I play
Boris Ord gave our musicality, David Willcocks our words, after that King's declined.
Bah!
I can't agree with you more! I think it's a crying shame what's happened to Kings over the past years after Ledger!
To be fair there aren't too many directions a choir can go once it's reached perfection; and under Boris Ord music at Kings was perfection. If only Boris Ord had been born 6 decades later when recording technology became able to faithfully record all the nuances that Boris was achieving.
what are the chants?
Ps xciii: J. Barnby ( www1.cpdl.org/wiki/images/c/c7/Barnby_Double_Chant_E_flat_major.pdf )
Ps xciv v1-17: Woodcork (no. 131 in Cathedral chants, Bennet imslp.org/wiki/Cathedral_Chants_(Various) )
Ps iciv v18-end: Croft ( books.google.co.uk/books?id=SjnNmJaj46UC&pg=PA103&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false )
The first is by J. Barnby
Why are organist always appointed choirmasters? Why not appoint a true choral expert? And most organist and so called choral experts these day, don't know how to correctly train boys and girls how to sing correctly; lowered relaxed jaw, throat and Adam's apple.
The position of the organist and choirmaster is typically combined due to the nature of the work and those who are in those positions. Many of them were choristers who also excelled at piano and later were students of organ. Being an organ scholar at a place like King's you become immersed even further into that world, mastering the repertory of hundreds of choral works with organ accompaniment. I agree that not all are great voice teachers or models of singing, which is why many choristers today also take private or small group voice lessons as a part of their choir school education too.
@@wftjet I know full well the situations. I am a former Anglican cathedral choirmaster and organist, concert violist, professor of voice and composer. I have been in men and boy choirs for many decades. I studied with George Guest, David Willcocks, George Thalben-Ball and many others. I am considered a world class expert on the adolescent voice and classical sacred music. With all respect to many of my great teachers and many other choirmasters, they were in fact organist first and foremost. Guest and Ord knew the singing voice well of boys! On occasion I have heard some correct singing come from the boys at Montserrat, Thomaskircke and Drakensburg, some boy choirs in Russia and a few other eastern countries. I have spent my whole life studying the adolescent voice and many vocal teachers are clueless as to what to do with a child's voice. They have forgotten that the basic foundation is built upon "yawning."
@@SarumChoirmaster I have not heard of the amazing yawn technique in quite a while.
Maybe that's why everyone sounds so pinched towards the top end these days.