I know they’ve been lobbying Mark to be the next Golden Bachelor, but I’m really pulling for Johnathan. His exit line “Although this is the end of my journey on Joan’s journey, in a sense, maybe my journey is just beginning.” was just perfect for it
Hummingbirds, hawks and butterflies being signs must be exhausting, they're literally everywhere. I want the sign of my existence to be like a polar bear or a giraffe, that way when one shows up you know it's me.
Chock fell hard for Joan pretty quickly. I had thought that the attention he was giving her was his way of letting her know he really likes her, but after watching this past episode, he came across possessive and jealous...two traits that are the kiss of death for a relationship.
So were they just priming Mark for golden bachelor, because first date as the last one on one is a sealed exit. I adore him but will his calm personality groove with a lead role? I am here for it, honestly. This whole show has been a breath of fresh air compared to the og.
I missed Charles & Gary so much this episode! Though I am one of those people who is over Chock's possessiveness & overall ick, I'm really not thrilled with Joan this episode. Chock was hogging her on the group date, but instead of telling him that he needed to let the others have some time with her as well, she just sat there all snuggled with him, ignoring everyone else. I thought that was incredibly rude & totally against what she told Trista about needing to spend as much time with each guy as possible that week. The whole thing with letting Mark go early was surely a move by production, but her telling Mark that she was letting him go because he was not ready or as far along with the grieving process as she is was garbage. All season, Joan has been breaking down over her late husband & doubting her readiness for all of this. To throw that on Mark instead of just being honest & saying she doesn't feel romantically towards him was a bad look & more than just a little hypocritical. "Hi Joan? This is Pot. You're black." (If you watched Friends, you'll get the reference.)
Yes yes yes. I found Joan to be hypocritical this episode too. She told Mark "i didn't see myself in that conversation" that is making him sould like he was being selfish talking about Denise but Joan is ALWAYS bringing John up. She brought him up to strangers on her 1st date with Keith.
2:39 😢 Sweet Mark, now I know why Kelsey felt so comfortable expressing herself and her emotions. My dad was always "move on no point in crying." I hope Mark finds joy in his life.
love how sweet and supportive all these guys are to one another, but it's kind a of a bummer that I don't think any of them are a good fit for Joan. I feel like their friendships with each other will outlast Joan's relationship with whoever she picks.
Pascal: “He was my best friend [and personal chef who fed me]” But in all seriousness, the friendships built this season… I am BEYOND stoked for Mens Tell All just to see them all reunite again 😭❤️😩
I have a theory , none of them except for Chock feel any kind of connection with her ( for soo many reasons , who wants to keep hearing about your fantastic, “ great provider “ late husband?! So they connected with each other and made life long friendships. Better than any connection with Joan in my book . She is the boobie prize .
Your closing clip of "Young Keith" is hilarious, "What...you guys are getting paid?!" Thank you for taking time to make us laugh with these perfect movie clips!
At my neighbor's watch party, armed with takedown balls (1.5" diameter styrofoam), the 15 of us were ready for any and every cringe. The moment Chock cozied up to Joan at 5:08 in this video, we launched a furious barrage, pelting the TV with relentless force!
I see a lot of comments that Chock is creepy and I agree if it were ME he was constantly hovering over, but I think Joan is really into him and was starved for affection. The difference between romantic and creepy is if the feelings are reciprocated and Joan seems to like everything he is doing.
Yeah, I think a lot of people here discount what it’s like to be older and so lonely and heartbroken. All your friends are dying around you, your parents have passed, your kids are busy. We can’t look at it through the same lens as past seasons
Chock is decisive. Chock is on board. Chock is truly feeling awkward to see her go off with others. He is invested. This is refreshing. It is everything except creepy. What an interesting insult. There was so much jostling for leverage from a young guy, Devin, Deceptive, Awful, Rude Give him an L A Instead of his last letter. He really was rude. Creepy. Cringe worthy. Dreadful. Chock is a class act. He simply sat next to her put his arm around her Chock is her guy He knows it. He's not on the fence. He's secure. That is a very wonderful trait. Creepy does Not 🚫 Belong in a sentence referring to this Gentleman.
He is a sweetheart, but very naive and innocent and absolutely nothing in common with Joan. He stayed a week or two longer than he would have had the decision been entirely up to her
He did give me the ick this episode, but in his defense, I think he is a good guy. However, he needs more time to process his grief from the death of his mother.
@@nzinga8 He was giving most people the ick from day one long before his mother passed away. Joan was uncomfortable when he kept popping up wherever she was especially at the bowling alley acting like she is woman.
You would think Joan would be put off by Chock's constant popping up next to her all the time and starting all his conversations with "We could have a wonderful life together." I thought she looked uncomfortable at the bowling alley.
@@jimrebrhe's an insurance salesman what do you expect? He was a turn off from the start he hovered over Joan at the bowling alley and as far as I can see she was curled up in a ball and that just shows how insecure he is in my opinion he would have been voted off for that alone
Me too. I thought she even moved away from him a little bit when he was sitting so close to her at the bowling alley. Wish she wouldn't have chosen him but they tend to make decisions based on who is most aggressive because I don't see a connection between the two. I actually don't see a connection between her or any of those guys other than friends.
Mmmmyeah, Joan just needed to tell the truth to Mark that there wasn’t a spark there 😂. She can’t speak for him to tell him where he is on his healing journey - and I agree that she spent a LOT of time herself on expressing her own sadness over her last relationship. It’s all messy 🤣
There is absolutely nothing real about any of the people in this show, from the phony personal relationships of the men to the outrageous outfits and “show me the money” attitude of the female it is so phony people can’t get involved intellectually. What not cancel, take your losses and come up with a show that will grab audience attention
Dang! 🌹 I said it last week and I'll say it again... chock is creepy, controlling and conceited, acting like he's got this in the bag. I still have bad feelings about Chock. 😱 🌹
@@abandonablesnowmanI don't think Jordan is that cool either. He's just as quiet as Mark plus he always looks like he has something up his sleeve something sneaky.
Love the Monster’s Inc cameo 😂 I know you’ve been sleuthing and I’ve also been watching your videos but I still was shocked about Jonathan being cut over Jordan. I was waiting on a comment or joke from you about the first ever typed letter from JP. What was up with that? Did they throw the scavenger hunt together in an emergency and had to type that on the boat?!
6:05 helllooo Bachelor production! The actor/seaman handing the scavenger hunt card to Joan looks like he'd be a great contestant on the next season of the Golden Bachelorette 👀
I’m not gonna lie, I thought Jordan was going to be off a while ago idk why I just did. I’m actually really sad to see Jonathan go. Chock is starting to give me weird vibes. Mark was definitely handsome just took a while to open up and I can see how there wasn’t a connection.
@@angelaraber He's not clueless but Joan gave her late husband on her mind constantly and Mark understood that. He's ahead of her over his late wife especially saying the loved ones will always be in our heart. They should have made another one of the ladies from the Golden Bachelor the Golden Bachelorette. Joan doesn't stop talking about her late husband which is why she sent Mark home after his revelation of a hummingbird showing up as a sign he can move on.
This last epidode she sent every man she liked home. Sealing her fate, she wasnt ready to move on. A few of the men and joan should be farther along in their grief than they are. If your dealing with it after 6 yrs you should be able to talk about them in a pisitive way. Before you hate on me, ive been there, iget it.
Joan's Body Language while Chock is manspreading over her, is not suggesting she is comfortable, if you catch my drift. Bad move Chock. Learn to read the room. Bad Move. That just raised a massive red flag for me. Creepy Vibe there Chock.
@@abandonablesnowman 😂‼️ True - I totally get that; but not so much when you are on a dating show & men are vying for your attention, heart & real "L ❤️ V E" ... 🥰
Joan likes the creepy attention from Chock. He is totally giving off bad vibes and red flags. If she cant see it, she will be making a grave mistake if she picks him.
I was really surprised about Dan. Maybe something was said off-screen, but they seemed to have great chemistry and he felt genuine and emotionally stable
@@abandonablesnowman I think it was his trembling, it sad she pretended she could handle it, but I don’t think she really could. He is such a sweetheart. I love him on Instagram.❤
@@wakanda6547 I think when he said he’d fly her off to Paris that really turned her on but the sad thing is is if he works in a beauty salon and owns it and has millions of dollars and beautiful women around him all day. Why is he single? Do you know what I mean if he could have any woman he wanted if he has that much money, so somethings not adding up
Mark is not ready for a relationship and I don’t think he’d make a good golden bachelor. On the upside, each eliminated bachelor, though disappointed, has left feeling hopeful. Good for them! Hope to see fan fav Charles in the future.
I was thinking the same thing when Joan told Mark that he just wasn't far along enough in his healing journey. I think it was just easier to tell him that, rather than admit to him the spark was missing. I will say I think this is the episode where we realized Mark wouldn't be a great lead so in that respect I see Pascal as the next Bachelor with Mark coming on to host one of HIS dates. Ha-ha! That would be such a fun and passionate season! I would also root for Jonathan as a great choice.
He looks pretty good for his age. Pascal is fun and adventurous. And also $$$ because he can afford what he wants and she likes all that. Someone who is gonna wine and dine her while she looks good and happy.
Two hometowns in Chicago!! Yeah happy 😊. Pascal salon is in Glencoe a very nice suburb off the lakeshore, whereas Jordan is just 9 miles west of Glencoe- in Riverswood both are not Chicago. But, seems everyone 50 miles from Chicago is from Chicago, not!
Love the use of the Simpsons clip!! I told my family that I enjoy watching the guys/ladies with each other than compared to the Bachelor/Bachelorette shows
She literally dumped Mark because it was about her journey, not him . How superficial, he was the cutest anyway and dodged a bullet . How dare Marks' wife visit as a hummingbird ? , what a crappy way to dump him . I've lost respect of her .
I agree that she doesn't seem any more ready for this than he does and that she probably just didn't feel it with him. I don't agree that he was the cutest, though, and his personality was a bit too mellow and/or lackluster for me, especially in comparison with how he presented during hometowns on Joey's season
Guy had a restraining order that was filed against him in 2021. Chock used to be my favorite for Joan until my boyfriend and I watched the episode in which he was all over her during the GROUP date. We found it controlling/possessive, obnoxious, and selfish. He even stated he didn't care what the other men thought. She should see his behavior for the red flag that it is. Guy had a restraining order that was filed against him in 2021. Pascal would be a bad pick as well. He has some poor guy doing his laundry on the show and overall seems self-centered, vain and fake. Bad choices all around.
@@57andstillkicking That it no way means the things she was stating didn't happen. People drop restraining orders for all sorts of reasons, most likely because he is the father of their children. He even acknowledged that he did things he shouldn't have done, attempting to excuse it as a "dark" time in his life, or something to that effect. Also, why would one go onto such a public show with that sort of skeleton in his closet? It was for that reason he unsuccessfully attempted to get the record sealed. It shows very poor judgment. The bottom line is that it is a huge red flag.
And Joan's husband John Vassos was a convicted criminal felon awaiting sentencing when he died..Yet pp think men competing for her love don't deserve to know that including the franchise and ABC.
Did anybody notice when she was talking to Trista that her makeup was very thick was even like cracking in a few places I tell you whoever the makeup person is on that show at least for that moment with Trista didn't do a very good job Also I liked Chock at first but now he just seems too eager I don't know why she agreed to do this cuz it's obvious she's still not over her husband and it's not really fair to the other guys but I have noticed that during all this the other guys have become more open at least this experience has given them the confidence to start dating again
Ok, I still think it will be Guy. Chock has been giving creepy bs vibes from the beginning. Hopefully Joan will figure that out before it’s too late. Pascal seems fun but he’s way too high maintenance. Jordan seems like a bore and Keith seems like a dud. Keith reminds of Patrick from Sponge Bob world. Guy is the perfect package and he knows it but he seems caring and lovable and I think he’ll be fun to spend time with. Guy is still THE GUY. Hope I’m not wrong. 😅
I wasn't sure about Guy originally, but when he helped Charles with his grief about his wife dying and then he helped navy captain Kim with the song I liked Guy!
She has so much makeup on, my husband and I were just, ugh yuck. She spent too much time much time in the sun, she’s got crepey skin, I know she’s a senior, just like me. She is very beautiful, I don’t think any of the men on her season are right for her. I’m not really sure she has time in her life for a marriage, her priorities are her children, just like me, she’s not going to move anywhere.
@@jimrebr agree. Have you noticed there are episodes where she did not have enough makeup and all her facial wrinkles are showing. Wrinkles in arms too. She spent too much time in the sun. But her personality is kind and mature. I liked that. I think that the Golden Bachelorette/Bachelor producers should NOT choose a woman or man who is less than 5 years into the grieving process. They are 99% not ready. Joan is only 3 years and she's not ready.
@@ABM-t7v Could not agree more! And think about this: Since her husband died in early 2021, she had to have began her application process for the Golden Bachelor barely past one year of his passing. I certainly don’t know the casting process, but it can’t be an overnight
I don't know why so many commenters here don't like Chock? Yeah, he is strong and dominant, but he is playing to win Joan's hand. He's an alpha male and has to get what he wants.
I hope Jonathan will be the Golden Bachelor, not Mark. Mark isn't that energetic, and he's just there. Jonathan is more energetic, we knew more about him from the show and his talk with Joan instead from production.
❗❗The Golden Bachelorette is averaging 2.7 million total viewers and a 0.3 demo rating through its first five episodes. That’s a far cry from the 4.7 mil/0.6 that The Golden Bachelor averaged a year ago❗❗
Might be because we older people were excited to see the BN bring on older people & saw it through, but Gary was a complete LOSER, so lots of people vowed never to watch another 'older people show. Gerry's season ruined it for many older folks.
@@maryannegross8600 I'll agree to disagree, and wait for y'all to throw in all your energy for the biggest fake of them all which is Joan..When it fails, ppl will be quick with a comeback oh she's just a poor widow and can't get over her husband, she just wasn't ready...😂 She's not on Reality TV to find true love is what I'm saying, she's a gold digger.
Mark wasn’t understanding her love language. She needed him to really court her. Mark was too laid back and not assertive enough. Not many women on this planet wants a man that she has to court. It won’t last.
What is this under Joan's nose? 0:47 (you have to pause and go full screen to see it fully) I noticed it once before, she is probably able to hide it with makeup most of the time. It seems too low to be a lip lift scar, that would normally be in the crease of the nose.
Every single man on the show can find a woman to love---easily. They all have nice personalities and big hearts. I don't see much in Joan at this point. I liked her during the Bachelor but now it's like she's obsessed with going on and on about her deceased hubby. Why do the show if you're really not ready to move on and fall for someone? Every guy on the show can surely see she's not committing to anyone.
I don't think too many people could resist the offer for all the screen time or the beautiful outfits or the romantic dates as well as the money they get paid, so I've heard.
I for one am just excited to see where Pascal lives.
same
Two men from Chicago, hmmmm, I'm from Illinois. She best keep her eyes open on those two!
Glencoe is one of the wealthiest Chicago suburbs.
It’s a very nice area!
Mark and Keith both have facial hair 🤢🤮
I know they’ve been lobbying Mark to be the next Golden Bachelor, but I’m really pulling for Johnathan. His exit line “Although this is the end of my journey on Joan’s journey, in a sense, maybe my journey is just beginning.” was just perfect for it
I think Mark's a sweetheart but too low key to be interesting enough as the Bachelor. I'd love it if they picked Jonathan!
As soon as I heard that line, I was what the heck?
It's gotta come down to Mark or Johnathan for next golden bachelor.
I know it is a long shot, but I am rooting for Charles for the next bachelor.
Hopefully not Mark. @@bonanzabrandon6877
The camraderie of the men on this show has been very moving. Seems like the best of what men can show each other even when competing.
I loved the scene taken out of The Devil Wears Prada with Meryl Streep…classic!
"Ok Pascal, he's still alive" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really look forward to these videos 🔥
I have been so much more touched and invested in the bromances and the stories of healing among the men than I have been in who Joan chooses.😊
Absolutely. Except for Chock, the men are considerate and supportive.
@SAKILE1
Chock the one who acted like she belonged to him?
@@serene1275Yes.
Same !!
Came here to say this! Male friendship is so touching, I’d honestly watch a show of a bunch of old hotties just hanging out.
Hummingbirds, hawks and butterflies being signs must be exhausting, they're literally everywhere. I want the sign of my existence to be like a polar bear or a giraffe, that way when one shows up you know it's me.
Mine is every time I see the same three numbers on the clock. I know that my honey that died four years ago or my dad or son are with me.❤
😂
@@Malishiphop or maybe a lion, imagine when you really do show up 😨😱☠️
@thepinkyprincesspwh 9:32 oetc.a.5767. What's the numbers?
100%!!!
Chock fell hard for Joan pretty quickly. I had thought that the attention he was giving her was his way of letting her know he really likes her, but after watching this past episode, he came across possessive and jealous...two traits that are the kiss of death for a relationship.
The "put those guns away good sir" comment at Guy killed me, though I doubt it was intentional
I think it was intentional
You read the twitter story, didn't you?
what? @@YankeesFan0620
So were they just priming Mark for golden bachelor, because first date as the last one on one is a sealed exit. I adore him but will his calm personality groove with a lead role? I am here for it, honestly. This whole show has been a breath of fresh air compared to the og.
My thought too
Yeah they were gassing tf out of him this episode 😂
I missed Charles & Gary so much this episode! Though I am one of those people who is over Chock's possessiveness & overall ick, I'm really not thrilled with Joan this episode. Chock was hogging her on the group date, but instead of telling him that he needed to let the others have some time with her as well, she just sat there all snuggled with him, ignoring everyone else. I thought that was incredibly rude & totally against what she told Trista about needing to spend as much time with each guy as possible that week. The whole thing with letting Mark go early was surely a move by production, but her telling Mark that she was letting him go because he was not ready or as far along with the grieving process as she is was garbage. All season, Joan has been breaking down over her late husband & doubting her readiness for all of this. To throw that on Mark instead of just being honest & saying she doesn't feel romantically towards him was a bad look & more than just a little hypocritical. "Hi Joan? This is Pot. You're black." (If you watched Friends, you'll get the reference.)
Joan's a big girl...she could have just gotten up and mingled. She created and continued the imbalance.
For some reason I just haven’t really connected with her as the lead.
I couldn’t agree more with the mark thing!
@@ellicel
Me as well. If she chooses one of the guys out of four, I doubt their relationship will last.
Yes yes yes. I found Joan to be hypocritical this episode too. She told Mark "i didn't see myself in that conversation" that is making him sould like he was being selfish talking about Denise but Joan is ALWAYS bringing John up. She brought him up to strangers on her 1st date with Keith.
I’m pleading for a Golden Bachelor Pad, I need to see the men and women live under one roof!
I’m praying for a Batchelor cruise or spa / resort vacation
2:39 😢 Sweet Mark, now I know why Kelsey felt so comfortable expressing herself and her emotions. My dad was always "move on no point in crying." I hope Mark finds joy in his life.
No point in crying ? That's cold . Sorry, " dad" but grief affects everyone differently .
Cry whenever , it is a release at least for me.
love how sweet and supportive all these guys are to one another, but it's kind a of a bummer that I don't think any of them are a good fit for Joan. I feel like their friendships with each other will outlast Joan's relationship with whoever she picks.
Sadly I agree.
She should have kept Mark on and sent the guy home who was between the 2 men who didn't get a rose each.
Shes not open and i dont see a good match idk think shes ready
Shes used to it being ALL about her! Idk not impressed ......... sorry
@maryjogreen1706 i agree . My mom and I thought she was pretty superficial . To say this journey was about " her " not about him .
Joan is looking for a
friends with benefits type relationship.
On one of the podcasts she said her love language is GIFTS.
“Blue?! Blue, Pascal? That’s obviously cerulean.” 😂👌
Pascal: “He was my best friend [and personal chef who fed me]”
But in all seriousness, the friendships built this season… I am BEYOND stoked for Mens Tell All just to see them all reunite again 😭❤️😩
The men should have a reunion
I have a theory , none of them except for Chock feel any kind of connection with her ( for soo many reasons , who wants to keep hearing about your fantastic, “ great provider “ late husband?!
So they connected with each other and made life long friendships. Better than any connection with Joan in my book . She is the boobie prize .
Your videos just keep getting funnier and funnier. I love it! 😂
Your closing clip of "Young Keith" is hilarious, "What...you guys are getting paid?!" Thank you for taking time to make us laugh with these perfect movie clips!
At my neighbor's watch party, armed with takedown balls (1.5" diameter styrofoam), the 15 of us were ready for any and every cringe. The moment Chock cozied up to Joan at 5:08 in this video, we launched a furious barrage, pelting the TV with relentless force!
Now I need to get some styrofoam balls!😂😂 hilarious
Yes, he is totally cringe-worthy! Ew!!!!!
It's sweet that Pascal and Mark were best friends. Did Pascal give Mark one of his bracelets?
Yes
@@jimrebrand that’s not ALLLLL
@@mrsmacca126Please elaborate.
😂🤣
@@mrsmacca126Give me the Gay Golden Bachelor 2025 😤
I've just realized that every time Joan is sitting with the guys, Chock is always sitting beside her
Chock definitely has alpha male tendencies.
I'm wondering if he would smother her. He could be one of those guys who won't let his wife go anywhere without him 🙄
@@teriwelshanscp3528
He might get a week of visitation rights, the rest of the time he'll be sitting on his hands waiting for her to face time.
I see a lot of comments that Chock is creepy and I agree if it were ME he was constantly hovering over, but I think Joan is really into him and was starved for affection. The difference between romantic and creepy is if the feelings are reciprocated and Joan seems to like everything he is doing.
Yeah, I think Chock and Joan are a good match because she clearly is very into him, and vice versa.
Yeah, I think a lot of people here discount what it’s like to be older and so lonely and heartbroken. All your friends are dying around you, your parents have passed, your kids are busy. We can’t look at it through the same lens as past seasons
Chock is decisive.
Chock is on board.
Chock is truly feeling awkward to see her go off with others.
He is invested.
This is refreshing.
It is everything except creepy.
What an interesting insult.
There was so much jostling for leverage from a young guy, Devin,
Deceptive,
Awful,
Rude
Give him an
L
A
Instead of his last letter.
He really was rude.
Creepy.
Cringe worthy.
Dreadful.
Chock is a class act.
He simply sat next to her put his arm around her
Chock is her guy
He knows it.
He's not on the fence.
He's secure.
That is a very wonderful trait.
Creepy does Not 🚫
Belong in a sentence referring to this Gentleman.
Thought Jonathan was a lock for hometown, but it is what it is 🤷🏾♂️.
Yeah, I was shocked she picked Jordan over either Jonathan and Keith. I would have much preferred to see Jonathan’s hometown.
Same. All the POC gone 😢
I really liked Jonathan too
"greatest love story between the guys" LOL - nailed it. The best part of this show has been the bro-love!
Although the front runners are clear, the next love of Joan’s life is not among this group. 🥺
Chock gets creepier each week.
So agree! Anger issues
He seems so controlling
Stage 4 clinger.
Chock is very competitive and more concerned about the “win.”
@@SAKILE1
Like hovering around Joan like a helicopter? He needs to respect when she's alone or talking to one of the men to stay in his lane.
Once again a great recap and I had a long, hard day. Thanks! The movie clips you pick are always on the money 😂
I can't believe she kept Jordan over Jonathan and Keith! That came out of nowhere.
Although Jordan is a cutie. He looks like a mature Bradley Cooper.
He does! He seems almost too young for Joan even though they’re close in age lol
That's exactly what I thought. I saw more chemistry with the other two. Maybe it was to make it easier on her to let him go
I knew she wouldn't have chosen Jonathan... because he is black.
He does look like a mature Bradley Cooper, you're right! On the other hand, I saw absolutely no chemistry between Joan and Keith!
@@eleanorthompson425 Exactly!! She had to many high quality White males. He still wont learn tho...
I miss Charles soooooooo much...
Why? He’s boring
A decent, genuine, authentic man is more important
@@JanetteV-f7nseeing a kind, genuine, and hilarious man as boring says a lot about the dating world today. sigh.
He is a sweetheart, but very naive and innocent and absolutely nothing in common with Joan. He stayed a week or two longer than he would have had the decision been entirely up to her
These RECAPS you narrate are hilarious and spot on.
You do such a fantastic job of reviewing the week. You made me laugh and I love your clips you include. I will be watching your recaps. Awesome job.
I was initially rooting for Chock to be the chosen one but now I'm not so sure. My preference now is Guy. Chock just rubs me the wrong way.
He did give me the ick this episode, but in his defense, I think he is a good guy. However, he needs more time to process his grief from the death of his mother.
@@nzinga8
He was giving most people the ick from day one long before his mother passed away. Joan was uncomfortable when he kept popping up wherever she was especially at the bowling alley acting like she is woman.
Nothing wrong with Chock, people can just be too much
I have never liked him. He just bugs me and now he’s acting like he’s got it in the bag, which is even worse.
@@nzinga8 He gives me the ick every episode!
Thanks!
You would think Joan would be put off by Chock's constant popping up next to her all the time and starting all his conversations with "We could have a wonderful life together."
I thought she looked uncomfortable at the bowling alley.
I think Cholk is disturbing, I don’t like guys w try to corner me, I am revolted my his creep behavior…oooh yuck
@@jimrebrhe's an insurance salesman what do you expect? He was a turn off from the start he hovered over Joan at the bowling alley and as far as I can see she was curled up in a ball and that just shows how insecure he is in my opinion he would have been voted off for that alone
He lost points when he returned too soon after leaving for his Mom’s passing….imo.
Me too. I thought she even moved away from him a little bit when he was sitting so close to her at the bowling alley. Wish she wouldn't have chosen him but they tend to make decisions based on who is most aggressive because I don't see a connection between the two. I actually don't see a connection between her or any of those guys other than friends.
@chanel2018-k3z it's almost like he was rushed to bury his mom so he can get back to filming...WTH?,? Creepy Vibes 😆
Mmmmyeah, Joan just needed to tell the truth to Mark that there wasn’t a spark there 😂. She can’t speak for him to tell him where he is on his healing journey - and I agree that she spent a LOT of time herself on expressing her own sadness over her last relationship. It’s all messy 🤣
I agree. My guess is -- Mark doesn't see Joan as a partner but he is ready to date other women. Chemistry is chemistry. There was none between them.
There is absolutely nothing real about any of the people in this show, from the phony personal relationships of the men to the outrageous outfits and “show me the money” attitude of the female it is so phony people can’t get involved intellectually. What not cancel, take your losses and come up with a show that will grab audience attention
Dang! 🌹 I said it last week and I'll say it again... chock is creepy, controlling and conceited, acting like he's got this in the bag. I still have bad feelings about Chock. 😱 🌹
Idk I don’t get the best vibes from any of her guys besides Jordan and I don’t think she’s picking him
Agree!! Something is very off, he’s so creepy.
Dude just lost his mother and is no doubt overcompensating to feel like his being on the show was worth it/justified.
I know I can't believe she chose him over Jonathan.
@@abandonablesnowmanI don't think Jordan is that cool either. He's just as quiet as Mark plus he always looks like he has something up his sleeve something sneaky.
Pascal Gives player vibes
But I can't believe he was wearing that type of underwear. I was thinking maybe some nice boxers or something.
@@peekaboots01I like tightie whities
@@peekaboots01What type was he wearing? I don’t recall.
@@SAKILE1
Brief and I saw nothing wrong with it.
He is into himself. In my books, a red flag. French men are players. No morals. It's their culture.
LOVED THE MATURE BROMANCE (EXCEPT FOR SELFISH CHOCK). ALL OF THEM NEEDED THE SUPPORT, CONSIDERATION AND ACTS OF KINDNESS.
The Devil wears Prada clip was on point. 😆
As was the “We’re the Millers”! 🤣
And hysterical
I will admit I haven’t seen any episode this season in its entirety but watching these videos gives the perfect amount of information 😆 well done.
Love the Monster’s Inc cameo 😂 I know you’ve been sleuthing and I’ve also been watching your videos but I still was shocked about Jonathan being cut over Jordan. I was waiting on a comment or joke from you about the first ever typed letter from JP. What was up with that? Did they throw the scavenger hunt together in an emergency and had to type that on the boat?!
Chock so annoying...calm down, buddy!
Is Chock turning out to be like Devon from Jen's season?
@@sarahamos2197yes! I agree with that, just saying all the right things & she’s falling for it
@@sarahamos2197Thank you. I wanted to say that but couldn’t recall his name.
Jonathan as the next Golden Bachelor, please! 😊
Hes a very sweet man she kinda lead him on i feel
@@maryjogreen1706 He seemed so genuine! He looked so sad when he didn’t get that last rose! ☹️
So he can be clueless on more women’s emotions? Pass
Please no 😭
6:05 helllooo Bachelor production! The actor/seaman handing the scavenger hunt card to Joan looks like he'd be a great contestant on the next season of the Golden Bachelorette 👀
I’m not gonna lie, I thought Jordan was going to be off a while ago idk why I just did. I’m actually really sad to see Jonathan go. Chock is starting to give me weird vibes. Mark was definitely handsome just took a while to open up and I can see how there wasn’t a connection.
Omg you were so funny in this recap , thank you for the laughs 😂
Here for Pascal! 😍
That boat date with Mark was awkward
yep, I could tell and felt so bad...I sure liked him!!! :(
But in his mind it was perfect... How can a grown man be that clueless?
@@angelaraberI guess he wanted a comfortable silence.
@@angelaraber
He's not clueless but Joan gave her late husband on her mind constantly and Mark understood that. He's ahead of her over his late wife especially saying the loved ones will always be in our heart. They should have made another one of the ladies from the Golden Bachelor the Golden Bachelorette. Joan doesn't stop talking about her late husband which is why she sent Mark home after his revelation of a hummingbird showing up as a sign he can move on.
@@serene1275I read it more as that’s what they bond over most strongly. Idk what it’s like to lose a life partner like that, but it can’t be easy
This video is great! I didn't have time to watch the whole show, but watching the recap is good enough. I love your comments too!
This last epidode she sent every man she liked home. Sealing her fate, she wasnt ready to move on. A few of the men and joan should be farther along in their grief than they are. If your dealing with it after 6 yrs you should be able to talk about them in a pisitive way. Before you hate on me, ive been there, iget it.
She probably didn't wanna be rude to Mark & straight say there's no spark.
Great editing this episode 👏🏾
Joan's Body Language while Chock is manspreading over her, is not suggesting she is comfortable, if you catch my drift. Bad move Chock. Learn to read the room. Bad Move. That just raised a massive red flag for me. Creepy Vibe there Chock.
I liked Jonathan and honestly was surprised by the final picks
I don't like any of the dudes that remain. I was hoping she'd pick Jonathan actually.
Johnathon was such a great fit for her
@@mrsmacca126 How do you know that? Were you there with them on the dates? Which one is Jonathan?
@@peekaboots01 I do, I think she picked the right guys
The clips you choose to edit in are truly ELITE!!! Hahahahahha
Another banger recap!
Chock is getting creepy
He has always been creepy.
❤️ ~ Joan shouldn't be tossing the "I love you's" around so much ... 🧐
They’re friendship “I love you’s.” Old people love telling each other that lol
@@abandonablesnowman 😂‼️ True - I totally get that; but not so much when you are on a dating show & men are vying for your attention, heart & real "L ❤️ V E" ... 🥰
Chocks competativeness is a bit much for me. But its understandable.
These men are so refreshing. Their vulnerability and comradery is so heartwarming.
I wish the best for all of them. 🫶
Joan likes the creepy attention from Chock. He is totally giving off bad vibes and red flags. If she cant see it, she will be making a grave mistake if she picks him.
Another great recap!
It's impossible not to cry when people talk about their lost partners.
I can't believe she kept diva Pascal over Dan and Jonathan!
I was really surprised about Dan. Maybe something was said off-screen, but they seemed to have great chemistry and he felt genuine and emotionally stable
$$$ Pascal has a life$tyle that appeals to her.
@@abandonablesnowman I think it was his trembling, it sad she pretended she could handle it, but I don’t think she really could. He is such a sweetheart. I love him on Instagram.❤
@@wakanda6547 I think when he said he’d fly her off to Paris that really turned her on but the sad thing is is if he works in a beauty salon and owns it and has millions of dollars and beautiful women around him all day. Why is he single? Do you know what I mean if he could have any woman he wanted if he has that much money, so somethings not adding up
He may like/have nice things, but I disagree that he is a diva
Mark is not ready for a relationship and I don’t think he’d make a good golden bachelor. On the upside, each eliminated bachelor, though disappointed, has left feeling hopeful. Good for them! Hope to see fan fav Charles in the future.
Please don't label Charlie fan fav - I applauded when he went home & so did alot of other people always moping & going on about himself
@@mariem3429 People are so mean in these comments lmao y’all clearly haven’t spent much time with old people. They mourn and that’s okay
I don’t think the Bachelor is the right place for Mark.
He is too pure for this franchise!
I was thinking the same thing when Joan told Mark that he just wasn't far along enough in his healing journey. I think it was just easier to tell him that, rather than admit to him the spark was missing. I will say I think this is the episode where we realized Mark wouldn't be a great lead so in that respect I see Pascal as the next Bachelor with Mark coming on to host one of HIS dates. Ha-ha! That would be such a fun and passionate season! I would also root for Jonathan as a great choice.
I would love to see Pascal as the next lead because it would be very entertaining.
He appears to have $$ which attracts her
@@maryjogreen1706
That's what I was thinking in this episode about her choosing him.
My mom said it was because its all about her and she gets free hair-dos . @@serene1275
I honestly don't think it's money. Pascal has game. Plus, who doesn't love a sexy accent?
He looks pretty good for his age. Pascal is fun and adventurous. And also $$$ because he can afford what he wants and she likes all that. Someone who is gonna wine and dine her while she looks good and happy.
Two hometowns in Chicago!! Yeah happy 😊. Pascal salon is in Glencoe a very nice suburb off the lakeshore, whereas Jordan is just 9 miles west of Glencoe- in Riverswood both are not Chicago. But, seems everyone 50 miles from Chicago is from Chicago, not!
Love the use of the Simpsons clip!! I told my family that I enjoy watching the guys/ladies with each other than compared to the Bachelor/Bachelorette shows
She literally dumped Mark because it was about her journey, not him . How superficial, he was the cutest anyway and dodged a bullet . How dare Marks' wife visit as a hummingbird ? , what a crappy way to dump him . I've lost respect of her .
I agree that she doesn't seem any more ready for this than he does and that she probably just didn't feel it with him. I don't agree that he was the cutest, though, and his personality was a bit too mellow and/or lackluster for me, especially in comparison with how he presented during hometowns on Joey's season
They’ll media train mark. Hes definitely the next golden bach.
Pascal for Golden Bachelor!!!
Pascal is the most entertaining one although I wish BN would just do a fresh call out of guys - No one stood out this season
Yes, Pascal for the next lead.
Oh no please
Johnathan for Golden Bachelor!!
No
His younger kids work against him. No senior over 60 will want to raise kids under 18.
@@Beverleyrogheck yeah
Guy had a restraining order that was filed against him in 2021. Chock used to be my favorite for Joan until my boyfriend and I watched the episode in which he was all over her during the GROUP date. We found it controlling/possessive, obnoxious, and selfish. He even stated he didn't care what the other men thought. She should see his behavior for the red flag that it is. Guy had a restraining order that was filed against him in 2021. Pascal would be a bad pick as well. He has some poor guy doing his laundry on the show and overall seems self-centered, vain and fake. Bad choices all around.
Guy’s restraining order was dropped.
@@57andstillkicking That it no way means the things she was stating didn't happen. People drop restraining orders for all sorts of reasons, most likely because he is the father of their children. He even acknowledged that he did things he shouldn't have done, attempting to excuse it as a "dark" time in his life, or something to that effect. Also, why would one go onto such a public show with that sort of skeleton in his closet? It was for that reason he unsuccessfully attempted to get the record sealed. It shows very poor judgment. The bottom line is that it is a huge red flag.
And Joan's husband John Vassos was a convicted criminal felon awaiting sentencing when he died..Yet pp think men competing for her love don't deserve to know that including the franchise and ABC.
I said 'I love you' to my girlfriend (now wife) first. But she said she thought it first.
She has not gotten over her past love . Until she can move on from her past love . She is not ready to find a new love yet.
Did anybody notice when she was talking to Trista that her makeup was very thick was even like cracking in a few places I tell you whoever the makeup person is on that show at least for that moment with Trista didn't do a very good job
Also I liked Chock at first but now he just seems too eager I don't know why she agreed to do this cuz it's obvious she's still not over her husband and it's not really fair to the other guys but I have noticed that during all this the other guys have become more open at least this experience has given them the confidence to start dating again
Applying makeup to older skin is definitely a different skill set that her makeup artist might not have
I noticed her makeup at Disneyland wasn’t good and was surprised how bad her skin is
Ok, I still think it will be Guy. Chock has been giving creepy bs vibes from the beginning. Hopefully Joan will figure that out before it’s too late. Pascal seems fun but he’s way too high maintenance. Jordan seems like a bore and Keith seems like a dud. Keith reminds of Patrick from Sponge Bob world. Guy is the perfect package and he knows it but he seems caring and lovable and I think he’ll be fun to spend time with. Guy is still THE GUY. Hope I’m not wrong. 😅
What is wrong with people? leave Chock alone,
I wasn't sure about Guy originally, but when he helped Charles with his grief about his wife dying and then he helped navy captain Kim with the song I liked Guy!
Oh my god Keith does remind me of Patrick😂 not that’s he’s dumb or anything. I don’t know, I think it’s the voice.. something about him
Guy has a restraining order against him from his ex-wife. Y’all’s pickers are broken. Man’s been unsettling
@@abandonablesnowman that is Gil
I know this group of guys have been so kind and supportive of each other! i think joan is over facelifted and a bit of a bore!
She has so much makeup on, my husband and I were just, ugh yuck. She spent too much time much time in the sun, she’s got crepey skin, I know she’s a senior, just like me. She is very beautiful, I don’t think any of the men on her season are right for her. I’m not really sure she has time in her life for a marriage, her priorities are her children, just like me, she’s not going to move anywhere.
She also shows too much skin.
I can't believe Joan is around the same age as Rob Lowe - she looks 20 years his senior - really bad facelift
@@jimrebr agree. Have you noticed there are episodes where she did not have enough makeup and all her facial wrinkles are showing. Wrinkles in arms too. She spent too much time in the sun. But her personality is kind and mature. I liked that. I think that the Golden Bachelorette/Bachelor producers should NOT choose a woman or man who is less than 5 years into the grieving process. They are 99% not ready. Joan is only 3 years and she's not ready.
@@ABM-t7v Could not agree more! And think about this: Since her husband died in early 2021, she had to have began her application process for the Golden Bachelor barely past one year of his passing. I certainly don’t know the casting process, but it can’t be an overnight
Missed question "Mark" as a bit but otherwise killed this commentary as per usual
I don't know why so many commenters here don't like Chock? Yeah, he is strong and dominant, but he is playing to win Joan's hand. He's an alpha male and has to get what he wants.
I agree with you, seems the majority like boring, moping around Charlie 🙄
Nothing wrong with Chock, he has money that she likes, and they'll only see each other a week here and there, in the meantime she gets pampered.
@@wakanda6547 not worth it
@@bethsiler1688
Ok!...Let's catch up a few weeks after the finale. Always curious to hear what others think as time rolls on.
Mark is a nice guy but he’s too young and too reserved to be the Golden Bachelor.
Agreed Mark is too introverted and quiet to be the next GB. He's a really good guy though and I hope he finds love.
I hope Jonathan will be the Golden Bachelor, not Mark. Mark isn't that energetic, and he's just there. Jonathan is more energetic, we knew more about him from the show and his talk with Joan instead from production.
❗❗The Golden Bachelorette is averaging 2.7 million total viewers and a 0.3 demo rating through its first five episodes. That’s a far cry from the 4.7 mil/0.6 that The Golden Bachelor averaged a year ago❗❗
Might be because we older people were excited to see the BN bring on older people & saw it through, but Gary was a complete LOSER, so lots of people vowed never to watch another 'older people show. Gerry's season ruined it for many older folks.
@@maryannegross8600
I'll agree to disagree, and wait for y'all to throw in all your energy for the biggest fake of them all which is Joan..When it fails, ppl will be quick with a comeback oh she's just a poor widow and can't get over her husband, she just wasn't ready...😂 She's not on Reality TV to find true love is what I'm saying, she's a gold digger.
Joan is so boring to watch and it feels like she doesn't even want to be there.
Joan is pretty but too much Botox I think cuz her smile is so stiff of her upper lip
& really bad facelift - she's around the same age as Rob Lowe & appears 20 yrs his senior!
Mark wasn’t understanding her love language. She needed him to really court her. Mark was too laid back and not assertive enough. Not many women on this planet wants a man that she has to court. It won’t last.
Yes, he’s too Beta.
I like everybody left except Chock. Pascal for golden bachelor
Am I the only one who was surprised by Joan's picks this week? I was sure Keith and Jonathan would be getting a rose.
There were no surprises. We’ve seen the four men in previews for hometowns or the final filming location.
Not to be mean, but Keith would have left the first night….with me. 🤣
I was so surprised!
I was shocked she kept creepy Chock.
I thought she picked the right guys, I liked her choices
Thank you! ❤️👍
What is this under Joan's nose? 0:47 (you have to pause and go full screen to see it fully) I noticed it once before, she is probably able to hide it with makeup most of the time. It seems too low to be a lip lift scar, that would normally be in the crease of the nose.
Personally I think she has way too much makeup on
It is a lip lift scar - she got botched
@@jillsantiagosantiago3119 She isn’t doing her own makeup for the show. I do wonder if her day to day look is as heavy
I want to see all those guys find love. I’m hoping they do a golden bachelor in Paradise!
I enjoy listening to the narrator.
Every single man on the show can find a woman to love---easily. They all have nice personalities and big hearts. I don't see much in Joan at this point. I liked her during the Bachelor but now it's like she's obsessed with going on and on about her deceased hubby. Why do the show if you're really not ready to move on and fall for someone? Every guy on the show can surely see she's not committing to anyone.
Because it’s a scripted fake show for ratings? She’s plastic and fake, just like most of Hollywood. I’m so cynical these days.😂
I don't think too many people could resist the offer for all the screen time or the beautiful outfits or the romantic dates as well as the money they get paid, so I've heard.
Cerulean!!!!!
I enjoy listening to tthe narrator.
Imagine if he said, every time I see a bull elephant I think of her.
I thought all elephants are blue or is it grey ?! 😂😂😂
@@themalawiandiner180 Depends on what planet you are on.
Chock seems aggressive and a definite go-get-HER.
Joan really isnt ready to meet a man .
Mark, I hope that you are The Golden Bachelor!
Or Johnathan