Battle of Trafalgar scene from the film That Hamilton Woman
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- The Battle of Trafalgar, as dramatically portrayed in this scene from the 1941 British historical drama film, That Hamilton Woman, brought to you courtesy of Alexander Korda Films and United Artists
Released as Lady Hamilton in the United Kingdom, the film was produced and directed by Alexander Korda and starred Vivien Leigh as Lady Emma Hamilton, Laurence Olivier as Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, Henry Wilcoxon as Captain Hardy, Gladys Cooper as Lady Nelson, and Alan Mowbray as Sir William Hamilton.
All rights owned by United Artists.
I cannot believe this movie is from 1941. I was guessing it came from the early to mid 50s! Holy crap the effects and sound design is STUNNING! That rapid editing too. Ahead of its time.
The Victory model used here is now in the Chatham dockyard museum. It’s huge!
I'd like to see that model!
As a mediocre model-builder I give the scene two left thumbs up!
This film feels very real compared to modern CGI offerings, amazing what they achieved all that time ago.
Not denying what you said, but when it's black and white, the mind uses imagination a little more to fill in the gaps. So it feels more real
Nonsense. In spite of of their efforts, it still looked like a lot of models in a tank. There's no way to make the sea look real in miniature. The best of its time, yes, but it can't compare with well-done modern CGI.
@@Axgoodofdunemaul I noticed the ships in full sail, but not moving, but the water was.
The ancient special effect stimulated our imagination.
The modern special effects sterilized what's left of our potential to "imagineer".
@@Axgoodofdunemaul Usually I would say you're right, often when people say of some old movie that the special effect are better then CGI it's a load of nonsense.
But in this case I think this looks at least as good as modern CGI, I have sailed on a tall ship before, the way the sail behaves, the waves look, etc. looks very real, they must have put in an enormous effort to made it look full size. You'd need some pretty high budged and very modern CGI to get to this level of realism. CGI from the 90's or 2000's doesn't come close.
Amazingly well made scene, given the day's technology and that England was at the same time fighting for its very existence.
Britain was!
Nelson was certainly a man who "led from the front." Captain Hardy had asked him to to transfer to the frigate EURYALUS, and conduct the battle from there, where it was relatively safe, and he said his place was on the VICTORY's quarterdeck.
There was a class of ASW frigates named for all of Nelson’s captains.
Lots of really nice little details here, like the movement of the ship when they are below decks, and the scar above Nelson's good eye that he earned at the Battle of the Nile.
Olivier was the greatest screen hero out of England...
Who?
Close in maneuvers - ships of the line - full broadsides - … think of huge, floating claymore mines banging away. Could I have held up? Well done , lads.
No one could hold up, some tours had 50% casualties, it's was a death sentence to be press ganged as a sailor. You had to do several tours to be free, hardly any sailors made it.
One of the greatest scenes ever to be filmed in a tank ..
A great little glimpse into the past-thanks for making it available to us.
The movies back then had great suspense and great action shots . They really got the audience into the movie
One hundred years later from Battle of Trafalgar, there was an another great sea battle between Japanese combined fleet and Russian Baltic fleet off Tsushima Island. Japanese flagship "Mikasa" and other major warships were built by Vickers. Admiral Togo is called Admiral Nelson of Asia.
He paraphrased Nelson in his signal too
I'd say both were equals and perhaps the top 2 admirals in history but both paled to admiral Yi of korea.
I saw his bed on HMS Victory and it looked like a child’s crib.
The uniform coat he wore when shot is on display in Greenwich and is tiny too
Wee problem, British ship guns all used flintlocks to fire, not slow matches. Thank God they didn't have Nelson with an eye patch!
Sir Lawrence Oliver as Nelson.
Or Olivier, but ok
The British didn't use matches and wicks, they pulled a cord to fire the cannon.
Until around 1805, Linstock and Slow Match was the standard for firing cannon, at sea or on land. Then, flintlock mechanisms began to take over (keeping linstock and match ready--just in case).
By the time of the American Civil War, friction primers, then percussion caps became common.
IN any case--one of my gripes about this movie: Too Much OPEN FLAME on ALL those ships.
They were fitted with flintlocks
Wow.......model ships look awesome.
Superb filming
I see a great example of tarred hats here, we see several tarred straw hats from the royal soverign and hms neptune, great film
rhe greatest ENGLISH MAN EVER BORN his crew loved him as did ENGLAND
if you get the chance go to ST PAULS in london and stand by his coffin in the crypt AMAZING heros every JACK TAR RULE BRITANIA RIP
Cromwell must come a close second
@@petermillist3779 go stand besdie cromwell s stat out side parliament, facing the road look to the other side of the road
theres a mall sta ubove a door . of CHARLES THE 1ST, they are staring at each other lol his son arles 2nd had mwell ug up and hung to rott warning not o try and take the throne away love london history
This was Winston Churchill's favorite movie. 🙂😥
Only one ship blew up in Trafalgar ,, the 74 French Achille
Indeed, all the the rest is just simply dramatization.
Die Geschütze werden mit einer Lunte am Zündloch gezündet in diesem Film. Ich dachte dass zu dieser Zeit Steinschlosszünder benutzt wurden, die mit einer Schnur ausgelöst wurden.
Yes you are right, the British did use flintlock firing mechanisms on their cannon at Trafalgar. Its shown correctly here: ruclips.net/video/bdlM6enTEys/видео.html
The one thing they get wrong was how small Nelson was. I saw his uniform at the Greenwich Museum. It’s astonishing how tiny he was. But a man of fantastic courage a good tactician and a huge ego.
He also suffered from seasickness.
At least he's not wearing an eyepatch. He did not wear one (although he was blind in right eye) but some movies have him in one.
Don't you have an ego? I have.
They were all a little stubby back then.
The only actor who could play Nelson nowadays would be Tom Hollander.
The great Nelson was shooted on the chest. God bless Nelson’s soul. Greetings from Brazil.
He was shot in the shoulder with the ball traveling downtown through his chest and into his spine.
HORATIO NELSON may the Victory always be kept safe and sound in England 🇬🇧 the only ship of its kind left in the universe ✨
And still a commissioned ship as well good sir….🇬🇧🇬🇧
Nice replicas ! ✔🆗😚
A lot of this footage was used in 'Master of the World' when Robur destroys the British fleet with his airship, ca.1862. Most of these ships were obsolete at the time when iron and steam power revolutionized naval warfare.
I vote 'to Glory we Steer' as the new National Anthem.
Its Hearts of Oak. But its a good recommendation nonetheless.
It’s Heart of Oak
It’s Hearts of Oak.
To glory we steer is a great Alexander Kent book.
its kind of funny how clean they make all the sailors look...and the matching uniforms....
Yes, all those clean, well dressed, loyal tars gazing skyward as they read the signal....knowing full well that their number will be seriously reduced by day's end.
@@david9783 always loved how in the books and in history the officers and captains took a large portion of the prize money and glory while the sailors got their badges of glory in the form of missing arms, eyes, and bullets lodged in them with a life long case of lead poisoning... Then they got tossed on the streets to starve or rot to death.. yep... these men sure knew their duty...
@@knand9936 Prize Money was more likely for crews of Frigates. Don't forget that many career sailors would buy an inn, tavern, or other business, and live comfortably.
Sailors in the USA, British, and Dutch navies tended to have life at sea, and after retirement much better than most other sailors around the world.
@@knand9936 are you aware that many British and USA Navy Captains had to purchase additional powder and shot for Gunnery practice. Sometimes Captains purchased other Ship's stores, even food for the crew. Officers had to purchase all their food, drink, uniforms, sextant, telescope, books, etc, etc.
David
They were clean, it was a punishable offence not to be.
British cannons of that period were NOT lit by fuses. In 1745, the British began using gunlocks (flintlock mechanisms fitted to cannon).
I loved this movie , Nelsons my hero . Bletchley Park , was Lady Hamilton's home . Talk about irony . Don't think all those seaman could read flag messages , but who cares great movie
Some sailors could read signal flags, Ratings, such as Bosuns'mates, some Top Men, and others.
By this time, naval cannon in both fleets were being fired with flintlock devices rather than linstocks. It was a much safer[given the profusion of black powder on a gun-deck]and more efficient in serving the guns. From what I've read of the battle, I rather doubt there was much singing or orchestral accompaniment by either fleets during the run-up to action.
Very well done for that time
One thing they got wrong was there was no orchestra accompanying them into battle 👍😊
Think there were ships' bands playing Rule Britannia and God Save the King
In 1956 my Dad borrowed an old newspaper from a friend for me to take to school with Battle of Trafalgar as the top breaking News item in it.
A good account of this battle is in the novel Trafalgar by Bernard Cornwell. It’s one of the books in the Sharpe series.
Seems that the film makers back then thought that all British ships at Trafalgar were first rates....
An old british dream....
@@TOFKAS01 And tactically unsound because first rates were slow. Nelson always used a combination of smaller and faster ships to hunt the enemy's fleet, and larger ships to follow up with the kill.
@@matthews1082 Not at Trafalgar. HMS Royal Sovereign and HMS Victory were the first to break through the enemy battle line followed by the second rates like HMS Temmeraire
@@ElizabethII-1952 Yes, that we know.
my ancestor was near nelson when he died
A French marksman?
Excellent historical detail, from the tactics (attacking the enemy fleet in two columns, breaking its line into 3 parts and cutting the forward part out of the battle for a considerable time) to the dialogue which corresponds closely to that of contemporary reports. You can see the coat Nelson wore, on display at the National Maritime Museum. The hole made by the musket ball is clearly visible on the left shoulder,where the epaulette is also damaged.
That looks like Lawrence Olivier playing the part of Lord Nelson.
It is.
**BY GUM!** Do you think there's any chance of it??...lol
I remember watching this many years ago,i used to make plasticine models and fight with them.
I would like to see the film on the big screen.
Сколько труда было вложено в эти съёмки! Одни только модели кораблей, сколько и какие шикарные! Браво! 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
И да, сигнал Нельсона перед боем был великолепен для поднятия боевого духа
Rare original recording of the Battle of Trafalgar discovered 😂
I need this film in colour
I like a neat and tidy sea battlefield. This is anything but.
Nelson was a brilliant tactician but lacked the brains to not advertise to the French he was the head honcho by wearing all of those medals on his chest and making him a prize target.
Hard to beat this scene today; a realistic account. Olivier joined the Navy in WW2 and for a while, flew Westland Lysanders....but authorities released in 1944 that he was better employed in his acting roles.
This is amazing.
i will say most of these old so called movies WOW THEY HAD GREAT SHAVING TOOLS HEHEH SO CLEAN CUT
Was Nelson shot in the back or in the front? Different movie's different depictions! * Funny that the rifleman that shot him is always shown to be killed after doing the deed!
Shot in the shoulder and crushed his spine. Well, that the french marksman was killed right after his shot is at least official history. But well, who knows?
He was shot in the front of his left shoulder, you can see his uniform in the National Maritime Museum, in Greenwich
LEFT SHOULDER IN THE NECK BROKE HIS SPINE AND WENT THROUGH HIS LUNG COVER MY FACE I DONT WANT THE MEN TO SEE ME LIKE THIS AS EVER ALL WAYS THINKING OF HIS MEN ENGLANDS GREATEST PATRIOT
「ネルソンタッチ」という戦術でフランス・スペイン連合軍の船を
22隻沈め壊滅に追い込むも、この戦いでネルソン提督は帰らぬ人と
なってしまった。
しかし、この海戦の一か月半後、アウステルリッツの戦いでフランス軍は
オーストリア・ロシア連合軍を破り、フランス軍の陸上での優勢がまだ
しばらく続くのだった。
This battle in 1805 gave Britain total superiority on the seas and avoided also an invasion of England by the french fleet. Napoleon would be totally defeated also on land in 1815.
The models are larger than you think. Michael Korda, son of designer Vincent Korda, tells of crouching inside one of the hulls!
LETS NOT FORGET NELSONS FOE ON HIS SHIP , THEY SAY BOTH OF HIS LEGS WERE BLOWN OFF THEY PLACED HIM IN A BARREL OF RUM WERE HE GAVE ORDERS TILL HE BLED OUT THEY WERE ALSO HEROS FOR FRANCE FROM A ENGLISH PATRIOT AMEN
Agreed, a true hero. Although I'm sure it wouldn't be advisable to prop him in a cask of Rum, the pain would kill him. It was however a cask of oats.
terrible way to go though hero,s all t y for the reply and imagine all those hundreds of splinters coming at you when the ball hit
Capitaine Lucas!!
Where did they get this ships from? Are those models?
Yes these are all models. One of them, the model of HMS Victory, is now housed in the Command of the Oceans gallery at Chatham Historic Dockyard in the UK. The model took three months to build, cost $5600, weighs 2 tonnes and fired a full broadside on screen with electrically triggered guns. I do not know how many were built in total or what happened to the rest of them. 100objectskent.co.uk/object/victory-model-20th-century-model-representing-georgian-1765-ship/?fbclid=IwAR2WQaZljNpU6_YQHOff7N_nfZIXS0_5MpFJh9KbjNmaCC6VvgDSTWnuSD4#tab-learning
ruclips.net/video/NMIUsMvboGY/видео.html
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They used Models for this scene?, is just amazing how real it looks who needs CGI when you can do it this way.
Una de las batallas que desgraciadamente marca uno de los grandes hitos de la historia de nuestra Armada . Aunque cierto es que analizando el contexto geopolítico de la misma la flota española , cómo el resto de la nación se hallaba subordinada o aliada , llámalo como quieras , al imperio francés por lo que era una flota combinada pero mandada por Francia. En fin ... " En Lepanto la victoria y la muerte en Trafalgar " Viva España !!
La Armada Española tiene una larga y noble historia, que merece ser honrada y celebrada.
@@yeoldegunner785 Si . Estaba viendo escenas y no pude pasar por alto el comentario. Aunque los ingleses celebren haber vencido a Francia , para nosotros Trafalgar representa , a pesar de ser una derrota , todos los valores que sostienen a nuestra Armada . La fidelidad inquebrantable , el honor y el valor necesario para llevarlo a cabo. Me emociono al recordar que yo y como yo tantos somos gente de interior pero a raíz de nuestro servicio nos convertimos en gente de mar para siempre. Ya tenemos un dicho aquí : Castilla , tierra de almirantes.
Un saludo a todos los hombres de Mar , más allá de las banderas.
@@xLesstatx Saludo
In Roy Adkins book Trafalgar he mentions several occasions where Spanish ships surrendered and offered to switch sides to fight against their hated occupiers. Sadly lots of these brave men on crippled ships perished during the hurricane which followed the battle.
9:03 Not one ship sunk during the battle.
Actually the French ship 74 gun Ship of the Line Achille, after suffering heavy casualties and with most of her officers dead, caught fire and when the fire reached her magazine she blew up and foundered at about 5:45 p.m., marking the end of the battle.
The sound is like aircraft bombing.
Impressive for it's day. A certain grainy realism about it all. But. Linstocks? By now all cannon had flintlock mechanisms, fired by pulling a cord. Hence lock and lanyard.
It was Collingwood who led the attack.
This really was toe to toe warfare.
Nelson only had one eye at Trafalger?
Yes
Since 1794 and the invasion of Corsica, his right eye could only "...distinguish light from dark but no object.”
No, two but what James said above.
@@jefthing I think he was meaning functioning eyes.
There is a question of how damaged his eye was.
Nelsons uniform in whitch he was killed is in the museum in Greenwich along with other momentous from the battle of trafalgar. If you go to Greenwich look up the painted hall it is well worth a visit.
Is Lawrence Olivier on the role of Nelson?
Yes
R.I.P Harotio Nelson.
6:10 That is the man who was in The Ten commandments.
Henry Wilcox on from Antony and Richard the Lionheart n DeMille's Cleopatra and The Crusades, to Major Heyward in '36 Last of the Mohichans to producer/assistant director and supporting actor in Ten Commandments to Viking Chieftan in The Warlord (still spry in his 60's) to the Bishop in Caddy Shack
F___ing crazy how the Captain and 2nd in command (forgot what his rank was called) walked about so casually on deck like 🧐 while all sorts of insanity was flying about.
First Lieutenant.
Reassuring for the men to see them unfazed
@@TheJTMcDaniel thank you
@@pwollerman I get THAT part, but still...
“Don’t duck your head, you might duck it into a cannonball!”
The Name of film??? Thank you
That Hamilton Woman, 1941, Released as Lady Hamilton in the UK. Read more in the description.
Lord Nelson soll noch immer in Rum konserviert sein, nach seinem Sieg bei Trafalgar über die Franzosen? ✌🏻
I seem to recall that Nelson only had one eye.
No, Nelson had both eyes. But one was useless, being blind on that eye. But the eye was still there.
I've been to Trafalgar square I'm American...so what happened to Lady Hamilton?
Lady Hamilton died in poverty in Calais in 1815, aged 49. Heavily in debt she fled to France to avoid her creditors and Debtors' prison.
@@yeoldegunner785 ah thank you...I saw the movie years ago...Hamilton was as pretty as Vivien Leigh..!
The most accurate so far
Well, how dreadful.The guns have no recoil and what the heck was the flaming torches and naked flame on the gun deck? Talk about death wish 8:37
They had muskets , not rifles.
DIE Segel geblüht, die Schiffe scheinen in Kiellinie zu fahren und trotzdem weder Bugwelle, noch Kielwasser. Das ist sehr schade, die Aufnahmen hätten dadurch viel imposanter gewirkt!
Auch bei den Offizieren und Seeleuten weht kein Haar im Wind, schade, das sind die Details, die einem Film leben einhauchen!
IT WAS A VICTORY FOR THE ENGLISH LOOPERS OVER ANOTHER UNTRUSTABLE NATION. BOTH FIGHTING TO BE THE MOST POWERFUL.
English cannon: Boom Boom Boom
French cannon: Pew Pew Pew
Don Blas de Lezo laughs loud 📢
Guts and Blackpowder Again?
Hombre..ya era Hora. Una película de piratas ingleses
🤣
Another butt hurt Argie
Ask the Potugees if the English were Pirates!
Why? If a de facto state of war exists between two states, the term piracy does not apply. Privateering and piracy are two different concepts. As was the case between Elizabethan England and Spain where they were at war although it was never formally declared.
Cope harder. You bottled it 🇬🇧💪
Heart of Oak
England's wooden walls of the early 19th cent meet the wooden acting and direction of the 1940s.
Good night
war is glorious?
Is pitty that Nelson has two eyes. Otherwise it shows accuratelly how weak the wind was and how Nelson broke French battle line on two points
It is accurate, he had both eyes. He lost only the sight on the right eye, not the whole eye. The ye was still there, but it became useless.
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Good blackpowder action.
Ah yes the Navy Life of dancing the horn pipe and singing sea chanties and a trollop or wench in every sea port for ye romantic dalliances!🇬🇧
Jolly old tosh
The Brit pirates only had to fight amateurs, not a big business. The only genius was Duncan, who was copied by Nelson.
And a nation wept.
Free men, my butt the sailors were forced to live and die on French and British ships.
A great victory 18 ,,,kiss me hardy then dies .
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Load of crap
says who, were you there ?
The best battle Scenes.....no c.g.i.
Marlin Brando, Antonio Bandaras, and Omar Sharif were all magnificent in this movie!
We cannot even stop Dinghys now.