Living with an EV in the UK | a One Take Video
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Living with an EV in the UK | a One Take Video
Here's my honest take on the realities of living with an EV in the UK at the moment. This is a one take video from behind the wheel of my Tesla Model Y RWD - it's not as complete as it could be, nor is it perfect, just my take on things as they stand. Are electric cars the future? who knows, but in the meantime I'm pretty happy with this one.
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You are one of the most unbiased reviewers I have watched. Thank you.
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Don't underestimate yourself, Jim. This was interesting even for a non-EV owner.
Thanks Mate
I for one really appreciate these non-sensational type videos, that's why I'm here. So keep it up mate!
Cheers mate 👍
Great video, we have 2 EVs and can report it's uneventful. Charging at home is cheap as you say and rarely use public charging but when I do it is getting better and better. Normally ask Google for nearest rapid chargier using voice control and it seems to find me one on route so even that works better. Nice video and honest ❤
Thanks for sharing Pete
What a breath of fresh air, if you are on the fence about EVs, or anti-them without experiencing, this gentleman speaks the truth. Not all roses but not as bad as some idiots make out.
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Hi Jim - Another useful video Thanks-Had our EV for several months now we have the benefit to be able to charge at home assisted by solar - so far a great experience- we live in a rural area with no local public charging so in our case if we could not charge at home would still be using a fuel car as ours covers around 60 miles per day on average-and havnt noticed a loss of battery level much in standing in traffic jams with heater on etc -so to date glad we made the move over to EV 👍
Fantastic!
A couple nights ago I was stuck on the M4 for an hour. Moved 5 miles in that time Id say. My battery display didnt even show it dropping down by a single % in that very dull stop start jam (top tip do not pull up behind a gritter in a jam , I had to hang well back !).
Lights on, heating on at times. (it got too hot sometimes and i didnt seem to be able to geta temp that worked, 18 seemed cold 21 too hot, anything in between was one of those two. It was 4 deg C outside.
On that day i did 180 miles (9090) plus had 50 left showing, so 230 in total, car set off showing 260 (at 90% charged) . So about 10-15% drop for driving on mway at 70 for most of the way.
The title didn't put me off, I'm still watching, keep them coming. I think we are at the point now that, like you said, that they are just cars fueled by electricity. Same as you I don't understand why people watch video's about EV's if they don't like them or want one. I got a second hand EV with home charging because it works for me and if stops working I will try something else, but I like my E208 GT, born again boy race at 68. keep them coming.
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great video, I too just love my EV6 and fuel costs have gone from just over £1,400 a year to about £170 per year (90% home charging)
I really enjoyed my time with the EV6.
Ev 6 is top notch
OK but how much was the car, not anti EV but relevant if your taking about saving money
And that's great for you. Trouble is 50% of people won't be able to charge at home.
@@rwkh10 How many people can refuel with petrol at home ?
love the unbiased straight forward talking honest review / feedback.
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Hi Jim, greetings from Oxford. I went to an EV in September 2019 - a BMW i3. I’m 58, and was anxious about making the leap to EV. It’s work out just fine, and has been a joy to own. Now at just shy of 40k miles. My only expense has been a set of new tyres at 36k miles. I have not had it serviced, BMW want £300 to service it, which involves changing the cabin filter and bleeding the hydraulic brake fluid - pointless! Like you, I mainly charge at home overnight on Octopus Go. This was 5p per kWh, it has since risen to 9p per kWh. A charge from 1/4 to 90% costs me about £1.60, in the summer I get about 180 miles, winter about 130 miles. Lovely to drive, smooth, quiet, powerful. Plan to keep it for many more years, I’ve paid it off now, so it’s saving me a fortune compared to my previous Mercedes C200 estate.
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Just a word of caution, change the 12V battery in the i3 every 4 years, or at the first sign of it not holding charge. They are awkward to change yourself due to their location, but should take less than an hour with the right tools. BMW will charge you £250 to replace one. Just do not put it off, as it going completely dead can lead to a very expensive series of problems, and I am talking in the many thousands of pounds. This is from first hand experience.
I got my EV a couple of weeks after you and I've been quite surprised at how negative a lot of people have been. To live with I'm finding it great. So easy to just jump in and do all the daily journeys a family does these days. The only downside is I would say the range when it's been sub zero is poor. So my Cupra Born was doing 250 miles range back in September. Around town in the sub zero last week that range dropped to 180. Now the temps have come back up to single digits that's a little over 200. Public charging has been hit and miss. Podpoint being my least favoured. I was shocked that a lot of the chargers dotted about the place are only 7kwh. Fast chargers are excellent though. I like my EV and happy to except some compromises for the tax breaks available.
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Like the unbiased view. Says it like it is. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Jim, you knock yourself to much. As eyer, direct, honest, no bull and keep it they way you present... Honest and strange my friend..💯
Cheers mate
Thanks for this video Jim, loved the one take wonder format 😊
Thanks mate 👍
Thank you fellow local, for exactly the kind of video I was looking for. None of the sensationalist crap from either camp, just honest thoughts about the day to day living with an EV, which has helped me make a more informed decision!
Thank you! Whereabouts are you?
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru By Queens Road, over by what used to be the Kia garage
Oh wow, you are close!
What a refreshing review, honest and straight forward without all the spin 👍
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Actually Jim, I found that one of your most enjoyable videos. Even as a petrol car driver I found it very informative and, as usual, completely impartial. Wouldn't mind a few more like that, it's a pleasure to hear your fair minded views!
Wow, thanks!
Beautifully done. No drama.
It didn’t even catch fire 😁👍
Great to see an honest review... Thank you
Cheers
thanks Jim - very helpful video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Just plug in when you get home and top up like a mobile its the deep cycling that does batteries in. Ok yours is LFP and dont care if it goes to 100%. 138,000 miles in near 10 years Model S P85 me. My car has no heat pump and it preconditions the battery before Supercharging.
The term "home charger" we have adopted is wrong, when not on a DC fast charger or Supercharger your using the car on board charger and the thing at home is just a connection point allowing up to 7kW on 250v single phase so as you say if your just doing 30 miles a day charge at home well just use the 3 pin "Granny" lead set to draw 10Amps and make sure your socket and wiring is up to standard and you can put in 30 miles overnight. Good realistic video, great choice Model Y RWD.
👍 I knew a local airport taxi chap who was the first to put 400k on a Model S. and it was only ever supercharged (for free at Heathrow), it was in use 24hrs per day / 365 days. Tesla asked for it back for research and gave him a new one! Battery was still going strong.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Tesla have been real good with my "classic" although they say they have teams continuously developing to keep the old cars going no matter what. My Tyre Pressure Monitoring System went Kaput turned out it was the ECU and not available so they said can we keep your car bit a bit we will give you a loaner we will develop wiring harness and software to allow the latest ECU to be fitted so 10 days later Ive TPMS no with the latest on screen pressures display and all at cost only. They said there are teams all over developing hardware upgrades and once sorted its distributed world wide on their system for the benefit of all. Guess this is real Green transport and well impressive, so I keep running my "classic"
@@slartybartfarst9737 Wow, that's very cool
Thanks again for a great & most importantly - completely honest video again, Jim. 👍
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You’re right. No click bait. Just how it is for most EV owners, including us and our two EV’s💚🇩🇰
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Hi James, do you get rattling noise from your passenger seat belt? I’ve got a model Y SR and it rattles when I’ve not got a passenger! I’ve tried to take out the Octopus tariff but it just goes back to the quote page?
Hi Phil, funnily enough I don't. Try this link share.octopus.energy/witty-gale-608 - I guess it makes you start the quote again? it's £50 each by the way at the moment.
I think insurance costs are high due to parts costs and availability. Tesla are focused on building cars not spares?
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I've driven ev since the first. Nissan Leaf came out in 2013. Never had a problem, never been left stranded. Just been from Newcastle to Bruges in our 40kwh Leaf (via the ferry at Hull) with no problems. 675 in 5 days cost £65. I think they are great, but they're not for everyone.
Exactly mate, not for everyone but we’re happy with ours 👍
In 2017 I drove my 24kwh Leaf from South London to Leith just north of Edinburgh (to Leith in a Leaf - I'm still kicking myself that someone else came up with that). The journey way 437 miles, then 16 miles around Edinburgh in the morning and straight back to London. 890 miles total distance. My range went from 90 miles in London driving to 106 miles driving hundreds of miles on motorways in November. That busted two myths there alone. As I had recently joined Ecotricity who owned Electric Highway the only EV motorway network apart from Tesla I was able to charge for free in England and Scotland didn't charge anyway. ICE drivers NEVER get free petrol and they certainly don't drive 890 miles for free.
Really useful video - My wife had just started using a Jeep Avenger and loves it
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Awesome thanks for your efforts and sharing your experience with us ❤
Cheers my old mate 👍👍
Cheers Jim, another great honest video. 👍👍👍
Cheers Andy 👍
Great info, thanks 👌
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Love your honesty. I totally agree living with an EV is extremely uneventful, and that EV's aren't for everyone.
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Great video Jim as usual🤙
Thanks buddy
Can I ask what temperature was and you usually have in the Tesla?
Also, don't know if it has heated seats and steering wheel, if yes , do you turn them on ?
On miserable weather I like once it's warm up to be literally like a sauna and both heated seats and steering wheel regardless if the trip is for hours
I use the heated wheel in winter but I don’t really like heated seats. Air on is at 19.5 all year round. I use it the same as I do a petrol car.
Ok, saw the hat and jacket and wondered.
Not the first time I see people well dressed. Understandable if it's a short trip on this weather, but for longer a comfy temp should be expected
Thanks for a great off the cuff video. Very helpful and informative, as I am thinking of going for an EV.
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Used your octopus referral link and picking up my model y rwd end of April from tesla. Got a great deal £399pm 10k miles 9 months up front.
You’ll love it I’m sure
Great video. As an EV and diesel owner I can only agree with pretty much everything you say on here. Totally unbiased and balanced. A shame so many people like the sensationalist videos put out by GeoffBuysCars and MacMaster who seem to just thrive and get their revenue from mostly utter drivel about EVs. The heat pump is a bit of a question mark for me especially if you’re having to pay more. The benefits seem to vary a lot and if you’ve got to pay £500-£1000 for one then do the maths about how long that takes you to recoup for a few extra miles especially when cheap charging.
Yeah for me I just didn’t want a car without one and the Tesla came with it as standard. Not saying everyone must have one, just that it was a must for me.
Totally agree, I’d defo have one if it was standard but wouldn’t pay extra. £500-£1000 v the miles that would get you at 7.5p a kWh.
My main concerns about EV's are: 1) Are they financially viable, seeing that Tesla keeps slashing the prices, Ford and GM seem to be in a mess with sales. The expensive EV seems to be gaining deprecation very quickly. 2) Insurance costs, why are the insurance companies pushing up the costs for EV's way above other cars? Also the Tesla Model Y, why has Aviva got an issue insuring that car? To me it is to do with the cost and loss financially.
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Thanks Jim. Honest review as always. One comment for the algorithm .🎉
Thanks for that!
Brilliant video. We’ve had a Peugeot e208 for 14 months and love it (first EV), but want to get a family sized EV to replace our diesel estate next time. Have had a couple of range anxiety moments with longer trips in the Peugeot, so the Model Y is really on a shortlist of one for next time! Just don’t want the hassle if we’re off for a weekend with the kids/dogs finding a working and available charger.
Everyone who’s got a Tesla I’ve spoken to loves them and particularly the supercharger network. I think it’s still 5 years until others catch up. Agree with the boring comments - they just work and aren’t particularly exciting (other than the ridiculous torque).
It would be great to see some more electric estate cars in future. Personally I’m well happy with the Tesla, as is my mate up the road who has the same car.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Yeah been viewing the e308/Astra estate videos recently but no way I’m going to buy one at those prices and the leasing quotes I’ve had so far are sky high. Maybe a good 18 month used one in 2025 would be a good alternative to a Model Y, but I still love the idea of a Tesla (and the kids keep badgering me to get one!).
Simple and straightforward. Mirrors my experience of driving EVs for the last 4 years.
I'm not looking for excitement. I want reliability, comfort and cheap running costs. My VW ID.3 gives me all of that.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Joey at last someone says out pound on tv what we all talk about without a voice
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It's Jim actually ;)
Great vid as always Jim. I think the insurance companies are going to kill off EVs if they’re not careful. I ran a quick quote check on a Renault Zoe the other day, bearing in mind I insure an Audi TT roadster for £179 and a Seat Alahambra for £289 the lowest quoted price was £500 ffs. I don’t think so.
Seems harsh
If Insurance companies base the premium on risk and cost to repair this presumably reflects those costs , EV owners are not being penalised by Insurance companies. I would expect to pay more for my EV than my old classic car that only does 1000 miles a year.
Great review and attitude, enjoyed your video. I think Tesla is the only sensible EV choice out there when comes to charging network. I can't afford EV nor I've option for home charging(living in a flat), it feels they are so much overprices compare to ICE models. Coming April 2025 they will be taxed with at least £180 and all EV's over £40K will pay £390 for the first 5 years. If EV prices keep going up ordinary middle class people will not be able to afford them. Lets hope Tesla will make a £20-£25K EV for the masses. Currently driving 65 plate family diesel estate with 800+ miles of range, tax is £20, insurance £350, maintenance is affordable. EV's need to become more appealing(price+charging network). Cheers for the good video.
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I value your unbiased view on EV's. Excellent point about company car drivers and their tax implications, for them EV's are practically a 'no brainer'. I'm still going to run a petrol car (fairly new) for a while but as you imply 'that's my decision'. Your regular video on lease offers again are valued by me, I think I'll be considering that option next. Grateful for all your videos
Cheers Peter. I would never try to talk anyone into an EV, all personal choice at the end of the day and I’d buy another petrol or EV without hesitation 👍
Good video. Do you use the driving assistance features that the Tesla has?
Just the cruise control a bit
Hi Jim, is the electricity on the ev charger more expensive outside peak hours? As in more expensive than a normal tariff?
Yes. If you go on the intelligent tariff your usual electricity is the normal rate but charging the car say at midday is about 40/50% more expensive than normal. Overnight is 7.5p for me at the moment.
There are now off-peak tariffs beginning to appear, which charge the off-peak rate for charging an EV at *anytime*. Although any electricity used for other uses outside off-peak times is charged at the appropriate normal rate.
Thanks mate.
Thanks mate
I pick up my Mokka e ultimate next week really looking forward to it. What’s the best apps to get? I’ve signed up to shell and BP who are sending me rfid cards. Any other tips?
Have you got a home charging tariff? I’ve got a link for Octopus Intelligent if not? £50 each if you sign up. Octopus have got a public charging app too which is worth a look (can’t think of the name of it). I’d also get zap map and maybe the Ionity app.
I find the petrol company chargers to be some of the worst out there by the way.
Useful info, thank you. How fast does the battery go down if you are stuck in a static or slow moving jam for a length of time?
I’ve never noticed it going down in traffic but haven’t particularly taken much notice
If you are stopped with the heater running, heated seats, heated steering wheel, wipers, lights & radio on, then the car will be using between 1-3 kWh, which will phase up/down (like an oven does) as the cabin reaches temperature.
So if the car has a 50 kWh battery at 100%, then that’s enough to power it for over 2 days of constant operation.
I often am doing many of those things, I use an EV in the same way I would use a diesel.
It hardly "goes down" at all if you're stuck in traffic or a slow moving jam. An EV uses very little power from the battery in those circumstances. Remember, a typical EV has a battery large enough to power a *house* for 3 to 4 days..... Heating 2 square cubic meters of car interior while listening to the radio, will have little effect, unless you get stuck in a jam for 2 days or so......
I camped in mine in sub zero temps (Tesla has a camp mode which keeps the heating on etc). That loses about 1% per hour, so say if you were stuck for 5 hours in winter you’d lose 5%
Is it not LFP battery if you have the base model? So you can charge it to 100% it’s not a problem.
Yes, it just seems wrong somehow...
Great honest video as usual, much appreciated
Thank you
👍👍👍.Thank you Jim
Thanks for listening to me ramble
Hi. Just found your channel. Nicely put together, honest, and thoughtful- if this example is anything to go by.
Just wanted to say that it looks like you haven't removed the protective plastic on the rear view mirror. I know this because it took me 4 months to realise it on my MYRWD 😂
I probably haven’t 😂👍
Lease a new EV or buy a used EV is Jim’s advice and is spot on. I use a Renault Zoe supposedly as the second car and a diesel that delivers 70 mpg on a run. I won’t buy another diesel and buying a second EV is now tempting as I already have the charger. I will keep on this channel and other honest channels but never click on the sensational channels. Honestly, I respect people who run bangers because banger v EV is a subtle argument but Jim simply points out the little shifts to the argument with solid trustworthy info.
Yes, running a banger works out amazingly well for a lot of people; I’ve never been one of them.
It doesn’t rain when you drive an ICE car. Not sure electric cars are for me. lol 😂😂
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Nice vid, I’ve just found your channel and as I’m considering a lease car for my next vehicle I’m glad I did . I was looking for a balanced view on EV’s and this hit the mark. Unfortunately I’ve no idea what a heat pump is so I’m off to Google it !
Welcome aboard!
Hiya,
We have a new Cupra Born. This is our second ev, only reason we sold the first one was range of an e208.
Would never go back to an ice as an ev has such a lovely pick up. No turbo lag when turning a corner on a hill. Also very quiet.
Licked your video, very unbiased.
Regards Phill and Jackie. Worcestershire.
Very nice! what was the real world range of the e208? i love the design of them.
Been driving my EV for 3 years and 52,000 miles now. No issues other than minor things, none related to the battery or traction equipment. It’s not even a fancy EV, just a Corsa. It is mainly used for my commute to work (67 miles daily), but also for other short and medium trips. Park at home, charge at home overnight. No issues there, no range anxiety. If you have the right use case, like I do, the EV can be an excellent fit. If you don’t have the right use case, buy something else, no one is forcing you into what to buy. Driving 350 miles a week, the fuel cost difference is huge, having been between £1500 and £1200 each year versus my old diesel Golf depending on the price of electricity. That saving effectively comes off what the car cost me. If I drove less miles, the savings would not be that significant of course and the car would not have made sense for me at that point. Expensive to buy, but fun to drive and cheap to run, they fit some owners needs better than other cars, but in other areas that are not the best choice. Be open minded, do your research without prejudice and you should be able to work out if electric, petrol or diesel is best for you.
Incidentally, after my 3 years of ownership, would I drive another electric Corsa? Well I would prefer a more premium brand like a VW, but honestly I would not be unhappy to drive another one. I have seen year old, 10,000 mile Corsas available from main dealers for £20K and that seems like a bargain to me.
Also battery degradation has been so low over the 3 years / 50,000 has been so low, I can’t even tell if it has degraded. It is a few percent as far as I can tell, certainly no more than 5% of when it was new. That works out at around 5 to 10 miles per full tank for me, so I’m pretty happy with that.
As you say, drive what you want and what suits you 👍👍
I agree, from a financial pov home charging is a must, and that's the problem. The downside is those that can't get a home charger are probably not that affluent to start with. Gridserve's Norwich forecourt was built because "[in] the immediate 10km radius area also has over 40,000 households with no access to off-street parking to accommodate home charging." It's going to come down to the haves and have-nots in the end. I guess, some will just have to go without.
Yep, although check out what connected kerb is doing. It’ll take years to fully roll out though
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Like rural broadband -- it'll take decades, not years. Also have to take into account that EVs are mandated transition, at some point there will be no alternative. I guess higher taxation, insurance, and fuel costs will be applied to ICE to make them unaffordable at some point because subsidizing EVs to the point Norway did to equalize pricing would be unaffordable in the UK.
Thoroughly enjoying your reviews Jim. Have bought diesels (BMW X5) for years and thinking about a switch to EVs. I’ve had some test drives and see little concern with changing to an EV apart from long distance travel (Lochinver and Los Picos) where the former has no chargers within a 30 minute drive and the latter is more like an hour (even diesel!) - but with planning, I think we’re ok. My challenge is how to pay and when so will book a call with you. Thanks again for your reviews, really helpful 👍
Cheers Steve, look forward to a chat 👍
Audi have a great deal on for used EVs. I pcp’d a 20 plate etron for £500 down and £320/mth. 2yrs warranty, services included and free charger. I was going to buy another sports car but it’s a bit of a no brainer deal!
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Good video, good news on charging and servicing, not so good news on insurance. I am hoping to get a second hand EV in the next year or two. I’m hoping by then the insurance will have calmed down and there will be some decent deals.
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I used to spend at least £600 a month on petrol to run a 450hp BMW M3 Competition, but now i spend £5 a month on home charging to run a 500hp Tesla M3 Performance (i do over 20,000 miles a year) which gets free charge and priority parking at work, free road tax, no congestion zone fee, no annual service that used to cost me £1200 a year. The best purchase i have ever made and even when it is freezing outside i just walk outside of the house and get in to the car with warm cabin temperature without needing to scrape the ice off the windscreen. Just amazing. 👍👍
Nice, any jobs going at your place? 👍 😉
and how much of a difference is there for insurance?
@@ibrahimnalbant7635sounds like he is on a salary sacrifice or company car scheme. Insurance is included in the monthly cost. That Tesla will likely be around £1000 a month before his tax and NI savings. It makes sense while BIC is still very low. Won't be forever unfortunately
Oh great, you’re obviously one of those who’s planning on keeping his EV 3 years max.
An EV battery CAN be good for 200,00 miles…….BUT that’s if you treat the battery well. An EV battery is for 1500 charging cycles, so those who automatically put in some charge when they get to work, when they get home, when they go for a coffee, when they go shopping, etc etc etc are ruining the battery for the next owner……the next owner who is now responsible for sorting out your 5 year deficit in personal carbon footprint.
You are wrong about the EV charge cycle. Let’s say Eva have 1500 charge cycles that is a complete 0 to 100% cycle. Most people never take their car lower than 20%, and most people who have workplace car parks probably be only driving a few miles to work, so the 1500 charge title will last years and years. I’ve owned my first Ev for one year now, and only once have I gone below 10%, and that was on a trip to the south coast
Great video. I’m a petrol man through and through but fully accept EVs work for some people, especially as a second car. Personally I go camping quite a lot towing a trailer etc, and don’t fancy the hassle on long 300 mile trips. However for commuting if u can charge at home it must be very convenient.
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How can anyone be a petrol man? Am I an electric man? If it wasn’t for the cost I might become a hydrogen man. Petrol men will slowly become extinct like old time rag and bone men with horses.
Carry on ‘not giving a toss’ Jim - always great content from a normal (sorry) guy who is living a normal life.
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I had a Zoe ZE40 for three years. Couldn't fault it other than I found it very dull and the 22 kw charging was a pain on very long journeys (although slower chargers used to be free so it was almost worth it).
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As usual an excellent honest video. I am now on my third E.V, they are fun to drive and cost me nothing for the electricity to run them because I charge it use when the sun is on my solar panel using a 13amp plug. I only do a small annual mileage but if I needed to do a long journey would just use a petrol car which I also have. Octopus are excellent to deal and the only utility recommended by Which magazine. I would never lease a car because I don't keep them too long and if I buy and trade at the right price do okay.
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Do you think that the octopus deal on ev charging will eventually end when the narrative from the government changes and it will start to cost whatever is required to make up the shortfall in revenue,I’m not trying to be negative but I’m just curious about your thoughts on this
I fthink the Government will do as much as they can to screw over EV drivers once enough have converted.
On a serious note Jim. Do you have the FSD and do you think it’s worth the 6800?
I’ve FSD. Cost me 17 years and £350
I haven’t and probably wouldn’t use it if I did so I’m the wrong person to ask. Seems very steep to me and I actually like driving myself.
10 years before it’s worth having. Far too much hype around this. One day it will happen but 10 years until parts of USA have it and then way longer for the rest of the world, if ever.
UK FSD is too limited. The auto cruise on the Tesla is good enough for driving. Just keep your eyes on the road and hands on the wheel.
✌❤ Great video Jim. I have had an Ioniq 38kwh for the last 4 years come next July. 4 Years ago the only realistic second hand EVs were the Leaf and Zoe. Now there is a great choice priced at well below £20k, right now I could buy a later year Ioniq than mine, less miles, for about £13k. I truly am going to be spoilt for choice next year.. If there are the same deals as your recent videos on the Mercedes and ID Buzz next year on LeaseLoco, I'm in 🤣🤣
I think these couple of crazy deals are manufacturers filling end of year quotas but I guess December might be a great time to grab one next year.
I drive a 52 kWh Renault Zoe and like your self cost next to nothing to run. When travelling long distances I just hire a car as the car isn’t the problem it’s the charge network apart from that my ev is ok for me. 7 years ev owner this is the 3rd ev I have owned. Good honest assessment by yourself 👍
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Thank you for a sensible, grown up EV review. So much content is trying to push an agenda. Facts have been lost to shouty opinion. You are doing a great job!
Cheers Adam
I used to own a Toyota Avensis Estate and paid about £275 pa for insurance. I changed it for a Tesla M3 dual motor. Insurance doubled to about £550. Seemed reasonable for a massive performance increase and much more valuable car. I'm 65 and have a full NCB. I know it'll be a lot higher next time.
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Love all your videos have spent so many hours watching you and Fully Charged. Interesting about moving to octopus energy. What car would you/readers recommend for family of four in London? Also for tall driver 6'3? Currently drive 2010 Jazz. I found the MGs lacking headroom. I teat drove a Kia Soul EV and loved it but tpo pricey to buy. Looking to do business lease or buy used. 😊
Thanks mate. I’m only 5’9 so probably don’t notice headroom issues overly. There are a lot of good EVs with a ton of rear legroom though so plenty will give you the option for pushing your seat right back without squashing the kids.
Can't charge at home so petrol for me. Have seen the queues at the local motorway services though ( ionity ) most days not just peak times and have thought maybe not yet even if i could.
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Top vid as usual
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Great review very honest and unbiased,out of interest does puffer jacket and beanie come as standard or are they optional extras ,only kidding ,cheers
They’re purely optional. I’ve got alopecia so tend to use a hat as a wig when I’m out in general population 😁
How much has your home electric bill consumption been affected by charging at home?
£20 per month
My home electricity cost increased by around £20 to £35 per month, but of course my £150+ monthly petrol outgoings have vanished completely......
Like the one take , 👍
It would have probably made for a better 15 minute edited version but I might do more of these kinds of videos in future, who knows. Certainly much quicker to put together!
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I reckon it was good, like having a chat with ya mate , with the day to day stuff , also I’m was interested to hear how you get on with real life ev running, still not sure yet , liking the new Volvo ex30 and its price is roughly the same as our new petrol countryman , maybe next time we change in a couple of years
Once again Jim great video interesting informative and a very enjoyable watch but you did make me laugh going on about needing Heat pumps in winter in an EV all wrapped up in your best, duvet quilts, and Bob cap but it very true what you where saying, wish my MG5 had one I can tell you good job done
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I had the heater on and the heated wheel on too 😂
Brilliant, really enjoyed the journey. 1 year on with my EV love it, a real delight to drive and charge. Thanks!
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Brilliant video, excellent information and funny when speaking about those that criticise. I am just scouring the internet for information on EV's as my son is eligible to a Motability vehicle and I am trying to help narrow down his options. So, I have now reduced the search to the Honda Eny1 - Kia Niro2 - Peugeot GT. I would be interested in opinions as I know very little about the EV market and I would also like to thank you for this video, it has helped me towards finding the best option.
Thanks Peter, to be fair, they’re all decent cars
I'm edging towards the Honda, not sure why as it doesn't have the heat pump you spoke about where the Toyota does but I like the touch pad screen. @@DefinitelyNotAGuru
Hi Jim , Can you do a video on van leasing like you do with the cars . No one else is doing it .many thanks
I’ve tried it a few times mate but there are 2 problems. Can deals haven’t been all that amazing for a while (not that I’ve looked lately) and secondly, nobody watches the videos when I make them. I’ll maybe try one again in Jan 👍
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No problem!
Good honest review, thanks Jim. I don't own an EV, but probably will in the future, I don't think EV is the answer for everyone or every use case, but I think it is for many, for at least one vehicle in two (or more) car households. I would like to see an alternative like hydrogen as well, it will be interesting to see how that technology develops and if it makes sense to transition it from commercial applications to passenger vehicles.
👍 at the moment hydrogen cars use 6 times more electricity than battery cars so still needs a lot of development I think.
😊 interesting content....group 50 insurance...ouch !
Insane for a family car
Hi, thanks for the good review. I'm a taxi driver and I have an MG E5. Octopus doesn't recognise my car or my charger which is a hypervolt. If anyone out there in RUclips land could give me some advice as to which Electric supplier for economy 7 I should use, I would be very grateful.
Oh no, I wouldn’t know to be fair. I believe Ovo has some decent EV tariffs but I have no idea about economy 7.
Thanks maybe one or your viewers will have an idea
Thanks for review. I'm picking up brand new model y rwd from tesla in 2 weeks. £3600 down £399 pm 10k miles over 3 year lease hopefully this is 2:35 a good deal, to be honest I'm a bit nervous moving from my bmw 2016 730d xdrive to a tesla
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Great review. Changed my mind about EV cars. Like you say I think the bad publicity is fuelled by a lot of people who have a vested interest in the good old combustion engine! 👍🇬🇧
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@@longdang2681 it’s 12 years away and you’ll still be able to drive used ICE cars. You never know, we might all be dead by then and you won’t have to change a thing 😘
@@longdang2681 Whether you like it or not oil will run out. Changes need to be made.
Great video and people say having an ev means you need a home charger but my question is it worth considerating an ev without a home charger?
I personally wouldn't right now but the choice is yours.
Tnx Jim
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Oddly insurance on my new Renault Mégane E-Tech is actually 12€ cheaper per year than my 11 year old diesel Volvo C30. Whether that is because I am in France I have no idea.
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Great review of a great car. Nice to see a balance to the anti EV lot like Worcester bloke
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Omg are you from BMTH? So surreal watching this video, really being hooked into the info and then seeing shop fronts I drive past every day 😂
Proud owner of a super fun 2nd hand Model 3 that I bought looking brand new with 17 months old and 17k miles - To answer your question: tyre rotation cost is £48 at Tesla but probably cheaper at the local tyre shop.
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Redhill park here 😅Nice meeting you neighbour!
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Brilliant video, I have a problem with the "Green" agenda that is forcing people out of cars they want/can afford.
The most expensive vehicle I have ever been able to afford was £5000 in 2006 and that was a Ford Mondeo ST24 that I did 60k in trouble free motoring all up and down the country and on several occasions had a boot full with luggage and 4 adults and a child in and it easily managed what was required.
My family requires a decent size vehicle but never has more than 4-5k to spend and that is at a push, we have 0 credit rating due to issues, 2 adults, 2 kids, a dog and transport for my disabled mother so in no way can we afford to buy a EV to do what we require, just fitting shopping in the boot for 2 households when we take my Mother shopping with her walker leaves very little room in the boot of a Vauxhall Omega estate let alone time at the beech in the summer so an EV of almost equivalent size will not be available in our price range any time soon and when it is the batteries are surely going to be toast, yet the government are causing issues for those of us in these kinds of circumstances by attacking ICE vehicles by taxing and fuel costs yet even if we didn't drive for a year, put that on top of savings of 4k we are still nowhere near being able to afford a decent sized EV with decent battery life left, after a few years of motoring we will have to get rid of it due to battery degradation and be in a situation of no vehicle and may at that time not be able to afford to replace the batteries or buy a new/second hand EV.
I have always had to do all the maintenance on my cars as garages were just too expensive if we wanted to be able to get to work and eat, I have even kept cars on the road that garages would have charged me in the region of £8000 to keep on the road due to massive rebuilding of rear subframes and suspension components and paid no more than a couple of grand to do it myself.
There is also the fact of how mining takes place and China with its massive human rights violations regarding artisan mining in Africa and modern day slavery not to mention the actual chemical issues surrounding battery manufacturing and disposal that damage the planet more than the average ICE vehicle.
Average lifespan of EV's can be significantly less than a decent diesel engined car (Skoda Octavia diesel estate).
Consumerism is what destroys the environment and unfortunately it is questionable if an EV can reach mileages of 200k on the same battery and still achieve similar range (-10%) as when it was purchased, this is very achievable on a well looked after diesel and petrol car, in fact we often see high mileage heroes as they are called achieving 300,000+ miles and are still going strong achieving very close MPG to when they were purchased, only time will tell if this is possible on EV's or are we going further down the road of being a forced throw away society like we are with mobile phones as batteries have become harder to replace and software keeps getting changed making our devices unable to open apps we rely on so much for our day to day lives like our banking apps which are the two reasons I ended up having to give up my Samsung Galaxy S6 2 years ago.
The EV fires are only a bigger risk because they burn hotter, are more explosive due to battery casings, create more dangerous off gassing than ICE cars and can reignite days or weeks later, it's not about the frequency, it's about the dangers involved are so much more severe than their ICE counterparts, don't remember ever seeing a fireman put out a ICE car fire in a Hazmat suit.
If issues are addressed properly and talked about openly then as a society we might get somewhere regarding EV and ICE vehicles but the problem is facts are being ignored, agendas are pushed and division is created so the arguments will rage on and people like me and my family will be the ones at the brunt of all the crap because nothing being offered meets our needs or budgets, as usual it's the middle class and upper class against those of us that are literally classed as poor, living pay check to pay check with nothing really spare and situations not changing any time soon.
I reckon you’ll be able to get an affordable used EV to suit your needs in the next few years mate. The wider problem, as you say, is that there needs to be more open and objective conversation that is not funded or influenced by lobbyists and self-serving politicians. We all still have a choice though and if you’re buying cheap used cars then the ban on sale of new ICEs is unlikely to affect you for a couple of decades as things stand and who knows where synthetics will be by then. 👍
Hi Jim, this is going to seem like one of those "I'm not hating on EV's.....BUT" sort of questions (that then proceed to hate on EV's). I assure you I'm not hating on EV's, the situation is what it is and we will probably all end up with one in 10 years or so. I agree 100% about maximising the benefits of an EV by having a home charger, I'd save £70 a week on fuel alone (doing 80 - 100 miles a day as a community nurse).
My question is, how do I have home charging without off street parking? I want to get a £10-15k used EV, but can't have a 'charging arm' to reach across the pavement as vandals would trash it (that's if I could park anywhere near my own house), and fast charging elsewhere would cost me around £35-40 for 200 miles which wouldn't make sense. I feel like there is no solution to help me reasonably access EV motoring. The good news is "18 million (65%) of Britain’s 27.6 million households having - or with the potential to have - enough off-street parking to accommodate at least one car" according to the RAC, so 35% of Britain are also in a similar situation, hopefully someone can figure out a solution to help people like me.
I think there’s a lot of work to be done on that front yet mate, check out a company called Connected Kerb, they’re doing a lot in and around London to deal with this problem but there’s a long way to go.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Thanks Jim, I'll check them out. 👍
The only real answer here I think is pavement gulleys for a cable. Once councils pull their fingers out and start doing this. Yes you may have to pay the council to do it, and you will need to always take the opportunity to charge as and when you can get parked outside your own house.
@@paulbuckingham15 good shout
Actually it’s £50 each for the recommendation with Octopus. This is one of the most honest EV reviews I have watched as almost every other video is click baited and has only one purpose which is to put others off buying an EV so, kudos to you.
Ah ok, £50 is better than a punch in the pants so I’ll still let you use the link 😉👍
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I’ve been an EV owner for more than 3 years & had £100 from Octopus for recommendations.
Thanks for the insights Jim. We're in the market for our first family EV and the Model Y jumped up the list. Our car schemes at work don't look particularly great and we're looking to buy privately. Thoughts on the Buy Used, Lease New rule when 0% offers can bring the new car payments lower than a lease or used offer? The Model Y on the 2.9% recently looked quite appealing.
It might be worth booking a call with me via the website but my thoughts remain as they were. Would need a chat to explain why in detail.
nice no drama review as really who cares what anybody drives, its not worth getting excited about....life is too short....
Very true. Drive what makes you happy and let other get on with their lives eh 👍👍
Great video, top man. I’ve had a Tesla Model 3 for 2 years and agree with everything you say. Suggestion for your next video - depreciation on 2 year old EVs has made PCP deals very attractive when you consider saving on fuel. Options for good cheap-ish 2 year old EVs would be worth a watch
I did a very similar video to that a couple of weeks ago mate. PCP generally is a terrible way to buy a car by the way.
I would like to know how many miles you do?
Average is about 600 per month I suppose