Nope. And it’s not a big deal. Gender is a construct not a natural thing. Sex is a natural thing but gender is mostly dictated through how the person feels about themselves.
At the very least Niantic could give players that want the old face and body style be available to select as well as keep the new styles. Kinda seems weird Niantic is pushing to be inclusive yet removing the option for the old face and body styles for those that want to rock them.
If you aren't supposed to "interact" with your avatar, then why are the clothes so expensive and you can buy em and poses and such. As an OG player since R&B, I was so disappointed with what PGo has become now a days
For everyone calling this a non-issue… If it was such a non-issue, why was the change made? Who does this benefit? Who do YOU benefit by defending it? And are those people worth defending?
You're asking to prove a negative, sure we can pontificate about why the designers decided to alter the characters but until you give a good reason for being upset in the first place none of that matters, because there's nothing to argue against other than your personal taste
Even the "woke" crowd is pissed at this lmao This was so bad that the company behind these changes went bankrupt. Maybe next time Niantic should listen to their fans?
Its not a "woke" thing. Its just a way of having other people be represented. It seems hard to believe that the company would start and randomly change peoples avatars though.
@@Riley095 Sorry, but the way these companies work, "woke" is nowadays a pejorative term and, uglyfying game characters is a very "woke" thing that´s widespread in almost EVERYTHING the western companies being doing lately... I´m ok with that, specially if it leads ALL the western AAA studios to go bankrupt, they are all crap anyway. Not talking about decent Indie studios.
@@Riley095 so the people that actually got represented by the old models dont count? if it wasnt some kind of agenda and actually about being inclusive they couldve literally just added the new models to the shop. that wouldve actually offered more options to spend money, offered more inclusivity and not angered the people who already bought a falsely advertised model (retrospectively).
You can't accept it..? It's YOUR fault that you can't accept it, and ur racist, transphobic, homophobic, hetero cis-white male supportive and even Trump-supporting Affirmative Action opposing too.
Not necessary at all. I'm not saying you can't identify as whatever else but... you're typically born with one of two options. No one complained about it before to my knowledge. More customization is almost always welcome but who legitimately asked for this?
@@turkoositerapsidi Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just let people keep the options that were already there. It just feels like someone's trying to push an agenda for the sake of people who didn't even care in the first place.
They didn't "do" anything to your character. You have the CHOICE to change your appearance. If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't be a**holes to someone just because they want their character to look more like them...
@@Levi-xl8vw Meh, they look fine. Keep in mind I never have played pokemon go so for any that don't have a before picture I have no idea what Im comparing them to.
They should keep SOME of the things from these updates, not including the part making (and forcing) females to be more broad and man-looking. Some of these designs actually work (My character actually looks more like me). But Niantic should seriously bring back the ogs, and keep away from making the genders look the same.
It didn't just look worse, it's low quality and poorly executed. The animations don't line up correctly. The head and hair and parts of the body vet morphed with different outfit items. There's a lot of clipping and even some belts basically just disappear under certain clothing now that it didn't before. Over all, it just looks terrible. I don't mind adding more options but funny take away what we already had. Also I'm disappointed that we get chest size but not butt size. All in all the models just look low quality now and to top it all off, they ruined white hair now for no reason. Can only have gray hair now instead of white.
The "wide avatars" have to be a bit to make things look worse then they actually are. Besides, do you really play Pokemon for the trainer customization?
People intentionally made their characters fat and then complained about their character being fat. Thats the level of intelligence you are siding with.
You can find actual comparisons of old and new avatars, not using the fat option. This update made everything uglier and glitchy. I tried to make my avatar pretty again and it looks barely acceptable. Sad situation to say the least
This really is not a big deal. It might be to some people but instead of freaking out about it,maybe thinking about how a system that allows you to customize your character would be helpful.
Just like what was previously implemented before? This whole situation is the epitome of that saying, y’know which one.. something something, so long it ain’t broke no need to “fix” it
Is isn't a non-issue. They are putting leftist propaganda in a game targeted to children, and the second part of your comment is just your personal view. If it were the truth then the game would have shut down years ago.
The gsameplay is fun in my opinion, its very unfriendly for the developr to ruin player characters like this and claim all is well. People spended moneys for customisationz.
Male or Female? Well I guess that question doesn't matter anymore huh?
Now Oak's gonna be asking Ugly or Uglier 🗿
Nope. And it’s not a big deal. Gender is a construct not a natural thing. Sex is a natural thing but gender is mostly dictated through how the person feels about themselves.
@@mistuhjoestar define “ugly”
This really wouldn't be an issue at all if they had an on/off switch, yet here we are and I highly doubt they'd do anything about it.
@@Riley095doesn't mean my character needs to look ugly lmao
At the very least Niantic could give players that want the old face and body style be available to select as well as keep the new styles. Kinda seems weird Niantic is pushing to be inclusive yet removing the option for the old face and body styles for those that want to rock them.
Yes, the shouldn't have removed options.
The worst part is: NOBODY asked for that update. The avatars looked so good before.
If you aren't supposed to "interact" with your avatar, then why are the clothes so expensive and you can buy em and poses and such.
As an OG player since R&B, I was so disappointed with what PGo has become now a days
For everyone calling this a non-issue…
If it was such a non-issue, why was the change made? Who does this benefit? Who do YOU benefit by defending it? And are those people worth defending?
You're asking to prove a negative, sure we can pontificate about why the designers decided to alter the characters but until you give a good reason for being upset in the first place none of that matters, because there's nothing to argue against other than your personal taste
Even the "woke" crowd is pissed at this lmao
This was so bad that the company behind these changes went bankrupt. Maybe next time Niantic should listen to their fans?
Its not a "woke" thing. Its just a way of having other people be represented. It seems hard to believe that the company would start and randomly change peoples avatars though.
@@Riley095 Sorry, but the way these companies work, "woke" is nowadays a pejorative term and, uglyfying game characters is a very "woke" thing that´s widespread in almost EVERYTHING the western companies being doing lately...
I´m ok with that, specially if it leads ALL the western AAA studios to go bankrupt, they are all crap anyway.
Not talking about decent Indie studios.
@@Riley095 so the people that actually got represented by the old models dont count? if it wasnt some kind of agenda and actually about being inclusive they couldve literally just added the new models to the shop. that wouldve actually offered more options to spend money, offered more inclusivity and not angered the people who already bought a falsely advertised model (retrospectively).
No they aren't go check vaush
@@stagaries1696There's a hidden agenda, by Gaymer X
The avatars are digusting now. It easily could have been an option, but it's forced upon everyone. Pokemon games seem to do that a lot actually
You can't accept it..? It's YOUR fault that you can't accept it, and ur racist, transphobic, homophobic, hetero cis-white male supportive and even Trump-supporting Affirmative Action opposing too.
The update is horrible in Go.
Pokémon Go needs to stop updating the avatars for the players, or else the Pokémon Go players will have no choice but to boycott, again.
Pokémon Go needs to make player characters have options to be like they used to be, or close to that at least.
On the contrary, they should fix the avatars. The arms are too long and big, the head is too small and the butt is missing.
@@danielmalinen6337 Player characters should be fixed yeah, they were better before the update.
I hate this update, it’s lazy and disrespectful. I want my avatar to look good, not like a morphless blob.
Very rude of Niantic doing this.
Not necessary at all. I'm not saying you can't identify as whatever else but... you're typically born with one of two options. No one complained about it before to my knowledge. More customization is almost always welcome but who legitimately asked for this?
only people at Gaymer X asked this
The update was a bit harmful in my opinion, removing the options players had, and did not give anything similar enough to compensate it.
@@turkoositerapsidi Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't just let people keep the options that were already there. It just feels like someone's trying to push an agenda for the sake of people who didn't even care in the first place.
@@animeodin4755 Yeah, it really makes one think. I have read that Niantic has not listened to players before either so makes me worried on this.
Unnecessary update tbh.
Good seeing you back Proto
I'm already boycotting
I'm okay with the bodies but the default face is needed back
With this, I add reason #3 for why I'll never get this game.
I'm glad I stopped playing pokemon go since they shut down my account for ignoring the story mode....
Fire Emblem Engage: First time
I still have you as a friend on pokemon go proto lol
Awesome!!
They didn't "do" anything to your character. You have the CHOICE to change your appearance. If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't be a**holes to someone just because they want their character to look more like them...
Aside from 1:25 they look fine for the most part.
Have you seen the hips and arms of the female characters? Looks more male than female.
@@Levi-xl8vw Meh, they look fine. Keep in mind I never have played pokemon go so for any that don't have a before picture I have no idea what Im comparing them to.
@@klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik 1:36 look at them hips.
@@klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxniktell the female players that
They should keep SOME of the things from these updates, not including the part making (and forcing) females to be more broad and man-looking. Some of these designs actually work (My character actually looks more like me). But Niantic should seriously bring back the ogs, and keep away from making the genders look the same.
Anyone else only have female character options?
as a nonbinary person who doesnt really identify as male or female i see it as a useless change
It made me a fat black female in a white male😭
Wow
Owo
I've missed you proto
I was a boy now I'm a girl in the game
I was the 100th like what did I win protomar….
Just give us more hair styles
Just in time for Groomer Awareness month. 😸
What?
It didn't just look worse, it's low quality and poorly executed. The animations don't line up correctly. The head and hair and parts of the body vet morphed with different outfit items. There's a lot of clipping and even some belts basically just disappear under certain clothing now that it didn't before. Over all, it just looks terrible. I don't mind adding more options but funny take away what we already had. Also I'm disappointed that we get chest size but not butt size. All in all the models just look low quality now and to top it all off, they ruined white hair now for no reason. Can only have gray hair now instead of white.
The "wide avatars" have to be a bit to make things look worse then they actually are. Besides, do you really play Pokemon for the trainer customization?
I mean, they sell you stuff for your avatar. The money you spent went to shit after the update since even some of the oufits were deleted.
People did spend money to customize their character, I did a bit as well, tho not very much, but I am annoyeed the update ruined my characters face.
People intentionally made their characters fat and then complained about their character being fat. Thats the level of intelligence you are siding with.
You can find actual comparisons of old and new avatars, not using the fat option. This update made everything uglier and glitchy. I tried to make my avatar pretty again and it looks barely acceptable. Sad situation to say the least
No
This really is not a big deal. It might be to some people but instead of freaking out about it,maybe thinking about how a system that allows you to customize your character would be helpful.
Just like what was previously implemented before? This whole situation is the epitome of that saying, y’know which one.. something something, so long it ain’t broke no need to “fix” it
Just leave an option for the original body. No matter what the female doesn’t look dimorphic and now looks trans/uncanny.
No point wasting time customizing a character that will always looks like crap...
@@impactsuit9871 You do have a point. Characters look worse than before.
Another non-issue that everyone is freaking out about. The game/app was cool for a year or two at most to begin with.
Is isn't a non-issue. They are putting leftist propaganda in a game targeted to children, and the second part of your comment is just your personal view. If it were the truth then the game would have shut down years ago.
The gsameplay is fun in my opinion, its very unfriendly for the developr to ruin player characters like this and claim all is well. People spended moneys for customisationz.
This is such a non-issue. I don't understand why people are freaking out so much about it.
You see their ugly face in the bottom corner 90% of the time.
Also, if it's such a little deal why did they need to ruin the models to begin with
The fact you are not given a choice and your avatar is forced to change makes it kinda suck.
How do you see nothing wrong with this? Are you demented?
@@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 especially since the avatars looked fine for 7 years straight
@@mistuhjoestar well describe "looking fine":