Few other budget gear pieces I left out, gul dagger on switch, or blade of alli baba on switch works as well. Time stamps below!! Don't forget to join the discord. Build discussions, stream notifications, magic finding competitions, and just a friendly diablo 2 community!!! discord.gg/8GXyu7A Time Stamps Intro 00:13 Overview 01:01 Attributes 02:29 Godly Gear 03:59 Budget Gear 09:36 Merc Gear 13:39 Runs 15:39 Conclusion 18:52
@@Dbrunski125 That's easy. For x unique or x set item you need to make drop you first need the base the drop. you are hindering your kill speed by having that much mf (probably most of the time of the run is spent on running and getting past char selection + loading time; so is it like 15 secs you are absolutely not able to subtract from the run?) So at this point isnt it easier to use those 22/23 secs to shave sime time/droprate from some mid time runs? (ie. 2/3 min chaos runs) At last; it's easy for the human bot to test this. Unique droprate per hour ran, this is the only stat that matters for your holy grail.
in path of diablo i run a fire elemental druid on hardcore it does enough phys dmg to easily take on fire immunes, but for pindle i run molten boulder and i call it bowling for pindle. Good times, great zerker always blows my mind that you have so much GG gear on single player, legend.
On my barb i use as off hand: 5Isted runemaster (To have cannot be frozen), another option in a gull dagger nice mf weapon speed, or a dual isted or mf jewels on a alibaba (slow attack speed). For budget u can go for demon limb main hand (nice ias speed, high enchant and bonus dmg against undead)
I did find that cold enchanted can be a bit annoying when he hits you, it slows down the overall runtime in the long run. What I did with mine was equip Grief Berserker Axe on main hand and 5 Ist’d Rune Master Ettin Axe on offhand, which then gives me 150% mf and cannot be frozen mod as well.
@@ResTTe Indeed, you don't need that much mana. It's just a convenience thing to have your BO mana pool with wizzies not dip below your pre-BO maximum to never need to speak to Malah or drink pots. And the +1% on Item Find is nice, but... I'd still take convenience over it.
@@i_am_ergo but do you have mana issues using dual branches? The only problem could be mana burn but i don't know how much it affects gameplay, cause i don't farm pindle at all...
I'd run two Hoto for 90 FCR 60-80 Res all and +6 skills which is great for warcries also lowers the cost of teleport from enigma, then I'd use Arachnidmesh instead of goldwrap, lose 30-40 mf, make up your missing FCR and get +1 to skills
Wasn't there a rule of thumb back in the days not to go too far above 500% mf, due to the diminishing returns for unique and set items? Basically your chances of finding rare and magic items grew disproportionate to finding set and unique items, causing bosses like Mephisto to drop uniques less often at 550+ mf compared to 450-550 mf. Or was this just for bosses and not for unique mobs?
Mf, used to be extremely powerful when run very high, but you are right, it was nerfed hard. There were also glitches were like 350 worked less than 300 or something like that, but that was fixed. I believe the current consensus is that 250-350 mf is sufficient, with anything over 400 not really worth it.
The top 1% rich version of the helmet would be a rare quality barb helm with the following: 2 to Barbarian Skill 3+ to Item Find (I'm not 100% sure on the cap for secondary ability skills levels, I've seen these up to 5 before) 15%+ MF 2 Sockets If you can find one of these that ethereal with the repair modifier, then you're basically the richest guy in your area as far as Diablo 2 goes. I've seen non eth versions of these kinds of helms sell for hundreds of high runes on bnet, its ridiculous
a Blade of Ali Baba is a very nice second hand MF weapon or even 2 on switch, very nice for budget MF builds. and there is no way to not find 2-6 on the why to hell xD
So I tried this, as I'm still missing 87 items from my Grail. 662% Mf, no Enigma (Ber is one of the many things I'm missing). First 100 runs with average 29 seconds per run: Run 1: Steeldriver (I was actually missing this one 😂) Run 16: Plague Bearer Run 22: Mara's Kaleidoscope (My second, this with 20% res) Run 52: Lightsabre (4th, weak) Run 72: Ethereal Edge Run 76: Hellclap Run 94: Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer I guess I'll hear "A cowards hiding place" a few more times. 😁
yeah, enigma will really open more effecient MFing like necro @pits and hammerdin @CS, have you tried running lower kurast with sorc for the superchests? they can drop up to Ber. 😁
@@francisesguerra6326 I have no idea how many hundreds or thousands of times I've popped those chests in the past year +, the highest Rune I've had from there was a Mal. Statistically I should have got all kinds of Runes already. 😞 Monsters are weaklings, the real foe is the RNG. 😂
@@OM-jt9nk Exactly my point. Something like 300-400% mf depends on character seems high enough. Mf-ing is like rolling a dice. The quicker you kill a mob the more rolls you get in a given amount of time.
Depends on char and where your farming. This character can wear 700 plus mf and still perform 20 sec pindle runs so it makes sense to crank the mf. If your running a lite sorc for example. Running 700 mf and doing 10 min chaos runs doesnt make sense. A lot of factors have to be taken into consideration when determining an idea mf number on a char.
Hey i Like your videos, mostly because im quite new to diablo 2, but can you make a video for noobs that are somewhat fammiliar with game ? Like I am lvl 80 summ necro but i have no idea what to do, have no items and i just go for NM Countess for some low runes and NM Andy but yet so far best what i got was near perf IK helm. SO maybe some vid of, you "just hit 80 lvl and no idea what to do? here is a tutorial!".It would help a lot of new players and maybe keep them with game ?
Viable in Classic. Classic is what we call non expansion. There are less players than LoD but there are still players and they tend to be pretty dedicated. A lot of differences between Classic and Expansion D2. Rares are by far the best items in Classic. I expect the Classic community will appear larger with the release of D2R. The Classic players from all of the other servers will be consolidated on one server. One last note, Rares can be the best items to use in LoD but the [good] drops are extremely rare and people rarely pick up the items which means even less come into the game.
I made a similar one as yrs. Had to use all my runes to make him. Playing with him is not that fun though. Just running, shouting, beating pindle up, horking. Even less fun than LK runs. But I am sure that he is absolutely effective. ALSO if u are wearing IK boots for the sake of AR, u dont need them, cuz u use grief with ITD. Just wear WT for the higher MF.
ignore target defense doesn't work on champions, bosses and super unqiues. -% target defense works at reduced efficiency on super unique champions and bosses.
@@Dbrunski125 I thought that it didnt work on act bosses only. I just checked again and found out u are right! diablo.gamepedia.com/Ignore_Defense_(Diablo_II) Thx for the lessen DB!
Yes, but it mostly is talked about along with killing power and speed. More MF is always better, but you start to sacrifice killing power which causes high run times.
The Ias just determines attack speed breakpoints. The highest break point using a phase blade is 42 ias. Check out the titan seal ias bp calculator website. It determines breakpoints for all character's in d2 based on their gear skills etc
Well in this case a pindle run, in my opinion it makes more sense to item find on your main hand because of the 6 ist phase blade. Extra 180 mf. Item find speed is based off fcr not increased attack speed so I'm not sure what your asking? Does it make more sense to item find on switch becasue of more fcr for fast item find? In this situation I dont think so. Maybe for a pitzerker. I still prefer main.hand item because of the extra mf from the 6 ist phaseblade.
What ever the highest frame rate is will improve your chances on popping rares and uniques dont forget to mention that when you start adding gold find you end up with deminishing item returns I made a barb back in the day and someone on jsp told me about the frames i was trying to find facts but no luck but its true try it.
@@Dbrunski125 true youre using phase blade and not zeker you could get abit more damage youre right youre already highest frame rate if you went to zerk you would see what i mean
and i have never used a bot.. (never had engima infinity etc) could have made one once.. the year and half hc ladder.. but i collected runes and wouldnt wast them in pussy armor.. badge of shame items.. cheater gear...
Honestly do not see the appeal of playing single player like these streamers do. Whats the point of accumulating D2 wealth if you cant spend it, one small part of what makes D2 so fun.
Solo self found or grail challenge. I just deleted my whole PD2 account with godly item just to restart new solo self found. Trade make D2 a cakewalk and I dont like that at all. 2-3 hours to power level and 30 min trading = u solo map and that is boring.
Hello dbrunski can u make a detailed guide about how and which mob is the best source of dropping a tyraels might? I literally got tired of farming farming farming over over since 7 years :/
Few other budget gear pieces I left out, gul dagger on switch, or blade of alli baba on switch works as well. Time stamps below!! Don't forget to join the discord. Build discussions, stream notifications, magic finding competitions, and just a friendly diablo 2 community!!! discord.gg/8GXyu7A
Time Stamps
Intro 00:13
Overview 01:01
Attributes 02:29
Godly Gear 03:59
Budget Gear 09:36
Merc Gear 13:39
Runs 15:39
Conclusion 18:52
800 MF, way to see only magic items...
what's going on with streamers? is this d3?
@@Dbrunski125 That's easy. For x unique or x set item you need to make drop you first need the base the drop. you are hindering your kill speed by having that much mf (probably most of the time of the run is spent on running and getting past char selection + loading time; so is it like 15 secs you are absolutely not able to subtract from the run?)
So at this point isnt it easier to use those 22/23 secs to shave sime time/droprate from some mid time runs? (ie. 2/3 min chaos runs)
At last; it's easy for the human bot to test this. Unique droprate per hour ran, this is the only stat that matters for your holy grail.
And also I would take into account empty invo slots in this said formula. Because time is what matters.
I dont think these runs are slow tho so imo makes sense to stask as much mf as you can.
@SteadyChasin MoneyBags lol yea had to get the tech dialed lmfao
in path of diablo i run a fire elemental druid on hardcore it does enough phys dmg to easily take on fire immunes, but for pindle i run molten boulder and i call it bowling for pindle. Good times, great zerker always blows my mind that you have so much GG gear on single player, legend.
Most efficient build... it's just too bad griffins don't drop in Canada
Lol :D
I found a griffin while playing as a sorc in single player. 🤷🏻♂️ 😣
Is there a story to this? Or just a comment on your rough luck?
@Lawrence Cunningham drops in aus a fair bit
As a budget alternative, I found having a harmony bow on switch or on an act 1 merc is very useful for speeding up runs
Thanks for this build! I got a mara's, SoJ and Griffons all in the same night using it
The a1 merc harmony is a fantastic shout
For a mid range weapon you could use an ali buba with 2 IST's.
Extra dex would help with ar and gobs of goldfind is ok too.
On my barb i use as off hand: 5Isted runemaster (To have cannot be frozen), another option in a gull dagger nice mf weapon speed, or a dual isted or mf jewels on a alibaba (slow attack speed).
For budget u can go for demon limb main hand (nice ias speed, high enchant and bonus dmg against undead)
I have the 5 isted rune master as well. Style points out the ass haha
@@malawigw Im not worried about that. I do what I feel like is fun
So fn crucial. Haven't played in yrssss but love your channel!!
I would say a couple budget weapon options is an eth oath cryptic sword, lightsabre, crescent moon runeword or even a Passion runeword
I did find that cold enchanted can be a bit annoying when he hits you, it slows down the overall runtime in the long run. What I did with mine was equip Grief Berserker Axe on main hand and 5 Ist’d Rune Master Ettin Axe on offhand, which then gives me 150% mf and cannot be frozen mod as well.
I think suicide branches better options for switch - you also have 100 fcr and get 2 more skills
The whopping +360 mana at level 90 is better than +2 to skills and +20% to mana for Teleport and Howl.
@@i_am_ergo I don't think you really need that much mana for running pindle and with dual branches you can reach lvl 33 hork which gives you 56%...
@@ResTTe Indeed, you don't need that much mana. It's just a convenience thing to have your BO mana pool with wizzies not dip below your pre-BO maximum to never need to speak to Malah or drink pots. And the +1% on Item Find is nice, but... I'd still take convenience over it.
@@i_am_ergo but do you have mana issues using dual branches? The only problem could be mana burn but i don't know how much it affects gameplay, cause i don't farm pindle at all...
I'd run two Hoto for 90 FCR 60-80 Res all and +6 skills which is great for warcries also lowers the cost of teleport from enigma, then I'd use Arachnidmesh instead of goldwrap, lose 30-40 mf, make up your missing FCR and get +1 to skills
It has been so wonderful watching your RUclips growth. Your presentation skills and delivery has improved so much. Keep up the amazing work!!!
Since we cant get realm down anymore, this may be the best build to mf now
It is. No realm down completely changes the game.
Save your soul and don't do a pindle only barb. Make other builds that can rub pindle + more.
@@Rsxxx21 Gonna make a goldfind/find item barb after I make a mf Sorc.
lol, this is some next level budget budget build, nice video!
Did you watch the budget gear options lol?
@@Dbrunski125 Of course, I watched every seconds of your video
16:41 she's not Akara, that's Malah lol
Wasn't there a rule of thumb back in the days not to go too far above 500% mf, due to the diminishing returns for unique and set items? Basically your chances of finding rare and magic items grew disproportionate to finding set and unique items, causing bosses like Mephisto to drop uniques less often at 550+ mf compared to 450-550 mf. Or was this just for bosses and not for unique mobs?
Mf, used to be extremely powerful when run very high, but you are right, it was nerfed hard. There were also glitches were like 350 worked less than 300 or something like that, but that was fixed. I believe the current consensus is that 250-350 mf is sufficient, with anything over 400 not really worth it.
17:06 How do you go about choosing hell mode without the cursor? please answer me :, (
Hit h on the keyboard
@@jree12 Omg!! thanks you very much bro!!
The top 1% rich version of the helmet would be a rare quality barb helm with the following:
2 to Barbarian Skill
3+ to Item Find (I'm not 100% sure on the cap for secondary ability skills levels, I've seen these up to 5 before)
15%+ MF
2 Sockets
If you can find one of these that ethereal with the repair modifier, then you're basically the richest guy in your area as far as Diablo 2 goes. I've seen non eth versions of these kinds of helms sell for hundreds of high runes on bnet, its ridiculous
What is that short key to select hell without manualy clicking it?
Its an old video so you prob wont answer but i dont have enigma whats the best way to make him survive more?
Hey DB nice font on that thumbnail :P Nice guide! really enjoying your content!
What about black and a lawbringer 2h?
Well don't worry for equip for merc, ther's almoust Isenhart's Horns and Case -- a lot instead eyes.
Hey Db, you can put your tome of tp in your cube and hotkey it and it works that way too.
gull with the ist rune cannot be used instead of PB with six ists?
Was expecting either Gul or Blade of Ali Baba as a budget offhand. Never really messed with berkerker much, maybe I should try it out sometime.
Does Berserk always hit with Grief even if you have 2 weapons, or it switches between Grief and 6istPB every hit?
after a break point on magic find its not necessary to have 700% mf, It is around 200-300 if i remember correctly. After that it doesnt do much.
has diminishing returns but more is always better
Is this viable for battle net?
I am planning to Level a character up with other people, but farming will be done mostly solo
Why does attack rating vs Pindle matter if using grief?
ITD doesn't apply to champions or bosses or super uniques
Why not put the Tome of id inside the cube? 🤔
RIP for those who are building this character and get the Halls of Pain WP.
Why would anybody want to farm only one mob? i really dont understand this
what skills did you use?
Ha "if a unique diadem drops" classic db
He is in pain !
12:25 „pavise“ is pronounced „pay“-„veeze“‘, I think.
He also pronounces "tome" as "tomb" :P Cute
@@SuperballBG and what's this I hear about faster castrate?
Great video DB, still prefer fire sorc though but maybe I’ll try this out once I get bored of fireballs
a Blade of Ali Baba is a very nice second hand MF weapon or even 2 on switch, very nice for budget MF builds. and there is no way to not find 2-6 on the why to hell xD
So I tried this, as I'm still missing 87 items from my Grail. 662% Mf, no Enigma (Ber is one of the many things I'm missing). First 100 runs with average 29 seconds per run:
Run 1: Steeldriver (I was actually missing this one 😂)
Run 16: Plague Bearer
Run 22: Mara's Kaleidoscope (My second, this with 20% res)
Run 52: Lightsabre (4th, weak)
Run 72: Ethereal Edge
Run 76: Hellclap
Run 94: Sazabi's Cobalt Redeemer
I guess I'll hear "A cowards hiding place" a few more times. 😁
yeah, enigma will really open more effecient MFing like necro @pits and hammerdin @CS, have you tried running lower kurast with sorc for the superchests? they can drop up to Ber. 😁
@@francisesguerra6326 I have no idea how many hundreds or thousands of times I've popped those chests in the past year +, the highest Rune I've had from there was a Mal. Statistically I should have got all kinds of Runes already. 😞 Monsters are weaklings, the real foe is the RNG. 😂
I smell a griffons incoming
Is there any point of having >700% mf? Isn't it an overkill considering that the higher mf you have the smaller the effect is?
lol no its not, but after the break point the extra 400% magic find doesnt do much actually, considering what you loose on other things
@@OM-jt9nk Exactly my point. Something like 300-400% mf depends on character seems high enough. Mf-ing is like rolling a dice. The quicker you kill a mob the more rolls you get in a given amount of time.
Depends on char and where your farming. This character can wear 700 plus mf and still perform 20 sec pindle runs so it makes sense to crank the mf. If your running a lite sorc for example. Running 700 mf and doing 10 min chaos runs doesnt make sense. A lot of factors have to be taken into consideration when determining an idea mf number on a char.
How you getting torch or anni on single player
Plugy mod allows you to use ladder features for singleplayer plus other bonuses like stash tabs so you dont have to roll a kajillion mules
Ghoulhide over Chancies nooooooooo 😂 awesome video dude
What’s goin on dbrunski fans?😎
Goulhide with Law bringer would be a decent budget.... ptopaz after that.
Anyone watch the Breakthrough add about the movie?
Hey i Like your videos, mostly because im quite new to diablo 2, but can you make a video for noobs that are somewhat fammiliar with game ? Like I am lvl 80 summ necro but i have no idea what to do, have no items and i just go for NM Countess for some low runes and NM Andy but yet so far best what i got was near perf IK helm. SO maybe some vid of, you "just hit 80 lvl and no idea what to do? here is a tutorial!".It would help a lot of new players and maybe keep them with game ?
Man, that enigma again. It is definitely not budget at all...
Can a wealth armor be used instead?
P.S.: Sorry, that was too soon to say. Great video!
I remember being so disappointed that yellows were never viable
Viable in Classic. Classic is what we call non expansion. There are less players than LoD but there are still players and they tend to be pretty dedicated. A lot of differences between Classic and Expansion D2. Rares are by far the best items in Classic.
I expect the Classic community will appear larger with the release of D2R. The Classic players from all of the other servers will be consolidated on one server.
One last note, Rares can be the best items to use in LoD but the [good] drops are extremely rare and people rarely pick up the items which means even less come into the game.
Yeah I sold my wizard spikes..to the vendor. Great. This game and its anemic stash. When d2R gets a version of plugY i'm going offline forever.
I thought it was Javazon! Or did I watch someone else's video?
I made a similar one as yrs. Had to use all my runes to make him. Playing with him is not that fun though. Just running, shouting, beating pindle up, horking. Even less fun than LK runs. But I am sure that he is absolutely effective.
ALSO if u are wearing IK boots for the sake of AR, u dont need them, cuz u use grief with ITD. Just wear WT for the higher MF.
ignore target defense doesn't work on champions, bosses and super unqiues. -% target defense works at reduced efficiency on super unique champions and bosses.
@@Dbrunski125 I thought that it didnt work on act bosses only. I just checked again and found out u are right!
diablo.gamepedia.com/Ignore_Defense_(Diablo_II)
Thx for the lessen DB!
I built my items into 'attacker takes damage' maximal
Does this game have diminishing returns on MF?
Yep, starts at around 400-450 for unique items.
Yes, but it mostly is talked about along with killing power and speed. More MF is always better, but you start to sacrifice killing power which causes high run times.
Tome is pronounced like home not tomb.
755mf. drops rares xd
Good video, good stream
i have exact the same skulldurs :D
you dont explain how magic find works from IAS.
The Ias just determines attack speed breakpoints. The highest break point using a phase blade is 42 ias. Check out the titan seal ias bp calculator website. It determines breakpoints for all character's in d2 based on their gear skills etc
@@Dbrunski125 wrong but ok brother not going to argue you
you will find more using higher ias break points find item relays on ias just like traps.
Well in this case a pindle run, in my opinion it makes more sense to item find on your main hand because of the 6 ist phase blade. Extra 180 mf. Item find speed is based off fcr not increased attack speed so I'm not sure what your asking? Does it make more sense to item find on switch becasue of more fcr for fast item find? In this situation I dont think so. Maybe for a pitzerker. I still prefer main.hand item because of the extra mf from the 6 ist phaseblade.
What ever the highest frame rate is will improve your chances on popping rares and uniques dont forget to mention that when you start adding gold find you end up with deminishing item returns
I made a barb back in the day and someone on jsp told me about the frames i was trying to find facts but no luck but its true try it.
@@Dbrunski125 true youre using phase blade and not zeker you could get abit more damage youre right youre already highest frame rate if you went to zerk you would see what i mean
griffons drop chaos run
Oh no you used xtimus don’t again... hE’s GonNA Be mAd!!!!
GG build. Find Griffon's already. Lol.
bah i had 1350 mf on my barb
and i have never used a bot.. (never had engima infinity etc) could have made one once.. the year and half hc ladder.. but i collected runes and wouldnt wast them in pussy armor.. badge of shame items.. cheater gear...
Is this a bot
Honestly do not see the appeal of playing single player like these streamers do. Whats the point of accumulating D2 wealth if you cant spend it, one small part of what makes D2 so fun.
Solo self found or grail challenge. I just deleted my whole PD2 account with godly item just to restart new solo self found. Trade make D2 a cakewalk and I dont like that at all. 2-3 hours to power level and 30 min trading = u solo map and that is boring.
broke days
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Nob
Hello dbrunski can u make a detailed guide about how and which mob is the best source of dropping a tyraels might?
I literally got tired of farming farming farming over over since 7 years :/
I got two in The Pits in 10 years :P
GENERATION OUTRAGE oo noice:o do u know how much mf u had+ char+ mob type on the pits devilkin,archer or bone skeles?
@@fatty180 Around 350 I think. It was a necro that used poison nova and skelewarriors. I can't remember the specific mob though... sorry.