What Art tells us about Gender

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • There is a huge range of ways that gender has been understood and represented in the history of art. We look at a few examples that show us gender is a concept that has never been fixed: Hermaphroditos by the ancient Greeks, Titian's Venus of Urbino, Baule portrait masks, the photographs of Claude Cahun and Marcel Moore, and Maya stone carvings.
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Комментарии • 505

  • @kts8900
    @kts8900 5 лет назад +429

    Favorite gender thought experiment. "Written on the body" by Jeannette Winterson, in which a story is told in the first person by someone whose gender the reader never knows. This person has graphic sex with male and female partners, without ever revealing what "parts" they have. Importantly, I found that myself and others who read this have moments in the book where they think of the protagonist as having a specific gender - male or female - but we vary in those moments. For example, the protaganist strikes an ex-girlfriend, and our reaction to that violence depends on the gender we assign to that moment.

    • @AS-jj3ho
      @AS-jj3ho 5 лет назад +14

      I'm really intrigued! Thank you for sharing :)

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 5 лет назад +31

      Very true about the part about our bias based on gender of the abuser. A very important issue too. Abuse is abuse: very, very wrong. Domestic/partner abuse is even more abhorent and depressingly common in all relationships, straight/cis or not.

    • @kts8900
      @kts8900 5 лет назад +29

      @@oof-rr5nf Agree! I was shocked at myself when I realized I did not care as much about the violence when I imagined it as female on female. Unconscious bias is real!

    • @dragonsnaps9430
      @dragonsnaps9430 4 года назад +1

      That’s so interesting

    • @marinatebbenham4011
      @marinatebbenham4011 4 года назад +4

      @@kts8900 Men can cause more physical pain to a person than a woman can. Sadly I just came to this video after witnessing a cousin laughing at an article about a boy stabbing a girl in the leg; all the comments were making fun of the whole thing. When men hit women, we don't care, we make excuses, we justify, we ignore, or we laugh. When it's the other way round, we complain because it's not taken seriously enough, all the while taking it seriously.
      Men can hurt, even kill women, and expect little punishment...

  • @KelsomaticPDX
    @KelsomaticPDX 5 лет назад +328

    The whole section about the Mblo mask was FASCINATING. That's such an incredible and genius way of making gender role somewhat codified while also keeping them democratic and far from taboo. It's so interesting to see the ways that different cultures have discussed and seen. Thanks for this!

    • @jamesandchante
      @jamesandchante 5 лет назад +4

      Have you seen the dances they do while wearing the mask? If you haven't you should check it out. I guarantee you'll find it interesting. I think it's delightful! I've never seen anything quite like it. :)

    • @KelsomaticPDX
      @KelsomaticPDX 5 лет назад

      @@jamesandchante I'll check it out!

    • @troymakay796
      @troymakay796 4 года назад

      200th

  • @LilyN2099
    @LilyN2099 5 лет назад +738

    I usually get uncomfortable talking about gender because it’s such a complex topic, but i thoroughly enjoyed this video and learning the different ways to express gender

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +40

      Thanks, Lilith! This one was super challenging to write, but in the end really fulfilling to try to work thought the complexity.

    • @SuperOvidiuMihai
      @SuperOvidiuMihai 4 года назад +2

      complex? Has a pipi, doesn't have a pipi.
      Ah, I see now. The pipi is not usually shown in public, therefore is not easily identifiable. It's on u if u can't figure that out.

    • @evakordiak8077
      @evakordiak8077 4 года назад +2

      There is nothing complicated about gender, because there are only two. Male and female.

    • @Colonies_Dev
      @Colonies_Dev 4 года назад +1

      here's a cool fact, sex hormones have large effects on behaviour i believe and men and women consistently fall into distinct personality patterns and im pretty sure this has always been roughly the same

    • @Colonies_Dev
      @Colonies_Dev 4 года назад +1

      like more specifically testosterone inhibits oxytocin, oxytocin is something i think we know has certain effects on your behaviour or how you respond to things, and we can see big 5 traits from clinical psychology that correspond to this

  • @bidaubadeadieu
    @bidaubadeadieu 5 лет назад +868

    This was great! I'm nonbinary, and when I see videos about gender pop up in my subscription box I get nervous, it's so easy to get things wrong and throw trans people under the bus to try to tell a simple story. I love that I can trust the Art Assignment to both make great content and be respectful of all its viewers.

    • @exiletsj2570
      @exiletsj2570 5 лет назад +9

      As a “non binary” person would you say you just don’t particularly identify, with the traditional traits credited to your birth gender, in your particular society? Or does it mean something else to you? I’m not necessarily trying to challenge you here, I am just curious.

    • @nothisispatrick5123
      @nothisispatrick5123 5 лет назад +20

      Non-binary means to not identify with either gender but some where in between

    • @bipashamahanta6788
      @bipashamahanta6788 5 лет назад +6

    • @decepticonne
      @decepticonne 5 лет назад +44

      @@exiletsj2570 non-binary is an umbrella term that means your gender identity is incompatible with a binary gender system. there exists much more specific terms to detail what you're asking about.

    • @user-on6db4rf4s
      @user-on6db4rf4s 5 лет назад +26

      @@exiletsj2570 if you reply with shit I'm not going to bother.
      I'm a nonbinary person. My experience with being nonbinary is that I just am- I don't know how else to think of myself. When I try to think of myself in the future and the present as the gender I was assigned at birth, I just feel trapped and like an alien, even though my interests and the things I like are often associated with a binary gender. When I try to think of myself as any binary gender my mind draws a blank.
      I hope this satisfies you.

  • @DiMon-jd4lf
    @DiMon-jd4lf 5 лет назад +1021

    I love the inclusion of different cultures

    • @Colonies_Dev
      @Colonies_Dev 4 года назад +1

      cultural appropriation

    • @pr3cious193
      @pr3cious193 4 года назад +5

      @@Colonies_Dev 😒

    • @whit2642
      @whit2642 3 года назад

      It’s the art world. Art knows no boundaries.

  • @anuel3780
    @anuel3780 4 года назад +68

    The Olympia painting always makes me laugh. The absolute frankness of the painting is something to behold, plus the fact that it somehow is more realistic than its inspiration

  • @laurelsb4435
    @laurelsb4435 5 лет назад +116

    Nonbinary artist here! Cahun's words truly hit me :')

  • @Xenolilly
    @Xenolilly 5 лет назад +480

    Frida Kahlo was the first artist to inspire me to rethink gender.

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +58

      Yes! It was difficult to leave Frida on the proverbial cutting room floor for this one, but in trying to show art from a wider variety of times and places, I focused elsewhere. Still SOOOO good, and very important to this discussion.

    • @Xenolilly
      @Xenolilly 5 лет назад +4

      @@theartassignmentI'm happy I learned about new (to me) people!

    • @drewdelu
      @drewdelu 5 лет назад +8

      Frida literally just painted herself, idk how that questions the notions of gender

    • @2mcraej
      @2mcraej 5 лет назад +31

      @@drewdelu Many of her self portraits were specifically about her life as a woman. The one I thought about during this video was Frida's portrait with chopped hair. She painted herself dressed in a suit with piece of her hair scattered on the floor.

    • @bebop54
      @bebop54 5 лет назад +2

      @@drewdelu agree with your comment.....
      i love frida but this is not her platform ...

  • @panashechakabva7704
    @panashechakabva7704 5 лет назад +274

    art assignment videos are always so thoughtful and well-researched 😌

  • @griffin1155
    @griffin1155 5 лет назад +2170

    the art assignment said trans rights

    • @unlockme7763
      @unlockme7763 5 лет назад +40

      They actually didn’t. They remained completely nonpartisan throughout the entire video. In the beginning of the video she states she will cover art from a perspective of gender as a construct, not biological sex. She caps off the video by saying, “humans like a clear binary, but art does not support one. As these works show us, gender complexity is nothing new”. In other words, the social binary of feminine and masculine does not exist. She also points out an example of an intersex sculpture, and how intersex people were once persecuted. Nothing supported people making the claim it is possible to biologically change your gender. They also didn’t like your comment, so that says a lot.

    • @griffin1155
      @griffin1155 5 лет назад +132

      DaniL’s ChanneL i’m not gonna read your essay daniel lol

    • @Amelia-yu6ii
      @Amelia-yu6ii 5 лет назад +133

      the art asignment says trans rights

    • @unlockme7763
      @unlockme7763 5 лет назад +18

      Griffin The Art Assignment is too smart to support trangenderism because they know it is based on supporting sexist stereotypes and attempting to erase sex which results in the erasing of women as a class. TAA used this video to dismantle gender. Transgenders uphold it.

    • @griffin1155
      @griffin1155 5 лет назад +87

      DaniL’s ChanneL please take a moment to look through the comments section and see how many comments from trans people have likes from the channel. just because you’re a bigoted piece of shit does not mean mr. and ms. green and their collaborators are

  • @thesmartonepoint0
    @thesmartonepoint0 5 лет назад +755

    I believe in the good nature of the Art Assignment community. This comment section will be nothing but honest attempts to learn, understand and grow as people, Amen

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +85

      May you be correct, and our moderators ever-vigilant.

    • @jbtechcon7434
      @jbtechcon7434 5 лет назад +18

      Is this your first day on the internet? :-)

    • @artpipe
      @artpipe 5 лет назад +1

      Comments are usually personal opinions. Learning, understanding and growing are good things but why are hopes so high for this video?

    • @jameswatson5807
      @jameswatson5807 5 лет назад +2

      Ninefox
      What parallel earth are you from heheh.

    • @eileensmyth2505
      @eileensmyth2505 5 лет назад +5

      @redpill what form does your respect take? Because being treated and acknowledged as a woman is the respect that a transwoman is seeking and if you withhold this, refusing to offer respect in the form in which it's requested, can that genuinely be called "respect"?

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk 5 лет назад +43

    I am so glad that you emphasize "productive discussion." So often that is not what I see happening when the subject of gender comes up.
    I am fascinated by these permutations on the idea. Definitely time to go take a look for myself.
    Thank you!

  • @graphite2786
    @graphite2786 5 лет назад +142

    My Drag friend-
    " I'm over my current queeness, she has become white bread. And she is stale."
    Me - ( shares this video)
    My Drag friend-
    " I have been inspired and reborn, courtesy of the mysteriously savage Lady Shook! "
    Me "It's Spelt Xoc or Xook"
    My Drag friend-
    " Even Better!!! Tremble Bitches , know me now, for I am the Lady Xook! or i will be after a bit of art research and pre colombian beauty tips....."
    Me " Don't do the tongue thing when I'm around you, lady Xook."

  • @rustyshackleford2717
    @rustyshackleford2717 5 лет назад +195

    Anyone disliking the video because "there are only two genders" clearly didn't watch the video. Art assignment never states their opinion on gender, it simply takes a historic look on gender roles in art, and specific artists and what they thought about gender.

    • @artpipe
      @artpipe 5 лет назад +4

      Opinions about gender are stated at 01:43 and 14:12 .

    • @edawhat3737
      @edawhat3737 5 лет назад +57

      What does "opinions about gender" even mean. Saying "there are only two genders and they are completely determined biological sex" is like saying "the sky is green" - someone can say it all they want, but it is just not true. Humans have had thousands of cultures, all of which interpret gender differently and all of which have different gender roles. The ideas of a third gender, a nonbinary gender, or transgenderism are not new in the slightest, even in western culture (read: Catalina de Erauso aka Antonio de Erauso, who lived as a man in 1500s/1600s). When did other people's identities suddenly become something that everyone decided they should have an opinion on?
      /endrant
      (sorry for the tangent)

    • @artpipe
      @artpipe 5 лет назад +8

      ​@@edawhat3737 What you explained is "self identity" not gender. I believe most of the so-called issue is simply the wrong noun.

    • @edawhat3737
      @edawhat3737 5 лет назад +42

      ​@@artpipe What I am saying is all gender is self identity. When people equate "woman" to "female" or "man" to "male", they are trying to meld self identity and biological sex

    • @artpipe
      @artpipe 5 лет назад +3

      @@edawhat3737 I agree, self identity is gender but nowadays people are choosing to identify with the opposite sex or whatever their minds can imagine. While anyone can imagine (self identify) themselves as anything, gender remains the same was my point.

  • @separatista
    @separatista 5 лет назад +226

    Trans rights

    • @Tomie..
      @Tomie.. 4 года назад

      Lmao

    • @bandidocavalier
      @bandidocavalier 4 года назад +14

      @@jolynes_fingernails7147 I did. Trans rights

    • @theflatasssociety1133
      @theflatasssociety1133 4 года назад

      Okey

    • @aliceb670
      @aliceb670 4 года назад +9

      Trans rights!

    • @jadeblades
      @jadeblades 4 года назад +1

      @@jolynes_fingernails7147 Wait. Didnt you also say something? That they totally wanted?
      hmm...

  • @AmorSciendi
    @AmorSciendi 5 лет назад +21

    I always appreciate the ways Queen Elizabeth played with gender and power in her portraits. Barbara Kruger does powerful work in this space. But for me, the most important artist dealing directly with gender issues is Contrapoints.

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +8

      YES! I'm only recently enlightened to Contrapoints.

  • @orlando1a1
    @orlando1a1 5 лет назад +62

    A fascinating, thought provoking and insightful video containing an important and cautionary message about bias, along with the problematic perception of 'the clear binary' in history of art. This video is so good, it should be shown in school classrooms.

  • @reesespeanutbuttercups7584
    @reesespeanutbuttercups7584 5 лет назад +59

    Can you do a video on sleep, dreams and nightmares? The nightmare by henry fuseli comes to mind

    • @aletheiaverite
      @aletheiaverite 5 лет назад +3

      here's the case for surrealism...! ruclips.net/video/wtPBOwE0Qn0/видео.html (it's a start)

    • @kts8900
      @kts8900 5 лет назад +2

      Ooh and the overlap with mysticism...Is it a dream? is it god? can we tell?

  • @ggchiu7400
    @ggchiu7400 4 года назад +4

    As an artist myself, I often question if there are things to question or experiment with in my art so I can express the different ways I see different topics. It's nice to know that many other artists from the past have had the same idea as me which pushes me to create art and history of my own to continue to experiment, challenge, question, educate and interpret gender and gender roles in a new light. another great video, very intriguing

  • @Hiewayasha
    @Hiewayasha 5 лет назад +267

    This is a super interesting video. I'm a trans masculine artist and much of my art is about showing different expressions and expreriences of masculinity

    • @hamzaalami2138
      @hamzaalami2138 5 лет назад +13

      where can we see your creations buddy ?

    • @cubeofcheese5574
      @cubeofcheese5574 5 лет назад +12

      Dude you should respond to these people, it looks like you got fans now

    • @maxstirner8310
      @maxstirner8310 5 лет назад +1

      you are a woman. deal with it

    • @gygyuri2194
      @gygyuri2194 5 лет назад +23

      @@maxstirner8310 no one asked you. Deal with it.

    • @graveygraveyard
      @graveygraveyard 4 года назад +16

      @@_blank-_ noooo, they didn't say that

  • @isabelasabbatini4431
    @isabelasabbatini4431 5 лет назад +255

    Contrapoints' channel comes to mind when speaking of gender and art.

    • @stevenoviedo541
      @stevenoviedo541 5 лет назад +51

      Natalie IS art

    • @ramisabashar7217
      @ramisabashar7217 5 лет назад +2

      !!!

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +126

      Thank you so much for recommending her channel here. I didn't know of it, and it's wonderful!

    • @AnimeOtaku2
      @AnimeOtaku2 5 лет назад +34

      The Art Assignment I now expect the next food episode to make reference to mouthfeel. :D

    • @marshalinehamismother
      @marshalinehamismother 5 лет назад +4

      AnimeOtaku2 there’s too many people taking about the mouthfeel now

  • @marcoqueme2868
    @marcoqueme2868 5 лет назад +6

    I am literally crying, cause even tho we barely see an introduction of how we play and conceive the idea of gender is the openness to discuss and understand the social and historical expression of it. And it is so uplifting and validating to have such a conversation through respect and genuine interest.

  • @kire5442
    @kire5442 5 лет назад +11

    There are not very many videos of quality art and you have done a very thorough job at educating us... very informative.

  • @thimblepunk7359
    @thimblepunk7359 5 лет назад +20

    wish this video had been out two years ago when i was writing an essay on this subject for my a-levels lol (I ended up writing about frida kahlo, an artist i follow online, and gluck) ! still, great video as ever and great to see claude cahun getting a shout out and also great to have a less euro-centric focus. speaking of claude cahun anyone else think of gillian wearing as claude cahun with ezra miller's met gala look? the levels.

  • @noscone
    @noscone 5 лет назад +10

    Now, I rarely comment on anything on RUclips. But thank you so much for making me aware of the works of Claude Cahun. I actually had to stop at 8:37 - good gracious.
    This reminded me so much of a Mapplethorpe exhibition in Düsseldorf 2010. He too did some amazing self portraits. I went there with my mother, me at age 18, and they curated a section called "C**ks and Flowers" - yeah. BTW If you've got the chance to visit the Guggenheim in NYC: his works are on display till January 5, 2020. If anyone want's to meet there this year at World Pride, I'll be there too :D

  • @AbstractScope
    @AbstractScope 5 лет назад +9

    As an individual who is nonbinary, the topics discussed within this video were superb. The inclusion of different cultures, especially throughout history, is very empowering.

  • @RichardHannay
    @RichardHannay 5 лет назад +48

    So THAT’S where the term “Hermaphrodite” came from! 😱

    • @alexp7016
      @alexp7016 5 лет назад +24

      Pretty cool, huh? Just as a heads up, hermaphrodite is considered a slur by most of the intersex community, we prefer to be called simply intersex. The term is still used for animals though!

    • @mimmikibilly
      @mimmikibilly 5 лет назад +4

      @@alexp7016 could you give me some further insight on why that is? I'm not intersex but I always thought that being called after a god-like entity was so cool that I never considered it a slur and I kind of still have a hard time considering it as such.

    • @mimmikibilly
      @mimmikibilly 5 лет назад +12

      @@CyberVelvet420 I want to know an intersex person's perspective in order to better understand where they come from. I'm in no way saying that I am correct in my judgement. in fact, I asked IN ORDER TO CHANGE IT.

    • @mimmikibilly
      @mimmikibilly 5 лет назад +5

      @@CyberVelvet420 I genuinely wasn't trying to imply skepticism. I just want to have more empathy and more understanding on the matter, and I welcome many different perspectives on even the silliest thing, hence why I even considered posing that question. and I think that explaining why I can't 100% relate to an issue I never dealt with is important especially in this context. I understand your and other people's frustration, but I think that a more aggressive reaction could be reserved for times when the conversation revolves more on moronish behaviour or stubborn mindsets rather than someone reaching out. I am in no way trying to invalidate intersex people, quite the opposite. and I want to understand more in order to make an educated remark in case I speak to someone who is intersex or if I feel empowered to defend them. sorry but I felt a bit hurt by your comment. honestly I never knew it was a slur until recently. I'm glad we clarified. your point is valid. have a nice weekend as well!

    • @mimmikibilly
      @mimmikibilly 5 лет назад +2

      @John Lambie I managed to understand a bit better in the meantime and what I came up with that now makes more sense, even if I still might be very wrong, is that since it is a term used for plants and animals and not people, it can feel dehumanizing, so I have a bit deeper understanding about why it is wrong. I wish it was not a slur but it has been used as such. I simply never knew it. and as a non-intersex person myself I cannot decide wether the community will embrace it or not. embracing the term has the possibility of overwhelming the negative history it has in correlation to human experience, even though it might do good as well.

  • @c8lyn128
    @c8lyn128 5 лет назад +52

    I think art is inherently connected to identity, even if it not consciously attempting to be so, and I also think that gender is such a pillar of identity. No matter whether you sit within or beyond a gender identity, or whether gender means something to you or nothing to you, it is quite foundational in your identity and in your interpersonal voice.
    I think what these pieces do is show a fluidity of gender. In that, while it as an identity is seemingly innate, a binary is not. I think this is important in modern times because societally there seems to be a fixation on a binary and a belief that it is innate. History doesn’t tell us this.
    I feel like I’m leaving a lot out of this comment because I think gender is significantly more complicated than a 150 word youtube comment, but nevertheless I wanted to share my opinion and support the art assignment in their wonderful content.

    • @oof-wi7hp
      @oof-wi7hp 5 лет назад

      @John Lamee How about no..............

    • @oof-wi7hp
      @oof-wi7hp 5 лет назад

      @John Lamee Nah :/

    • @whoelseremembersthe21cryba51
      @whoelseremembersthe21cryba51 4 года назад

      John Lamee trans women are women die mad about it snowflake

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 4 года назад

      @John Lamee well, sex isn't gender. And biological sex is so much more complicated than just male, female, or intersex. As so much else in nature, it is more of a spectrum than three simple boxes.
      Same with gender.
      Nothing in nature is ever that simple.

    • @WORLD-STAR670
      @WORLD-STAR670 4 года назад

      @John Lamee As a Trans male, that's not how it works. I don't prefer dressing like a man, I want to be a man. I'm still feminine, but I'm a man.

  • @bipashamahanta6788
    @bipashamahanta6788 5 лет назад +56

    This is really a great step to respect the LGBT community and their rights to be who they are. Art Assignment, I love you!!!!!!!!!

  • @wearewhimsy
    @wearewhimsy 5 лет назад +15

    What a brilliant video (no surprise here!) Some examples from the history of staged photography might prove useful here as well: Marcel Duchamp's alter-ego Rrose Sélavy (photographed by Man Ray), Samuel Fosso's "African Spirits" series, and more recently, Chan-Hyo Bae's "Existing in Costume" series, and Rie Yamada's "Famillie weden" series.

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +2

      Really great works to bring into the discussion! Thanks for contributing them here. There were so many good recent and 20th Century examples of art that would be relevant to this discussion. Worthy of many additional episodes.

  • @ThePhoenixpaw
    @ThePhoenixpaw 5 лет назад +7

    @14 minutes and 14 seconds I spotted a ... lack of clarity. It's not so much "we humans" as "we so called westerners, that is, people raised with European values". Not all cultures believe in a strict binary.

  • @aletheiaverite
    @aletheiaverite 5 лет назад +44

    yES i've never clicked on anything faster

  • @TeaRex
    @TeaRex 5 лет назад +24

    I've been looking for a good video tying art and gender together, glad I found it

  • @thegreyman1575
    @thegreyman1575 5 лет назад +6

    I thought it’d be an interesting to show that, this has happened in the US as well, especially in the art field. I might be coming off the wrong way, but the Navajo are people that’ve explores these concepts with men taking on traditionally female related roles, like sowing and the ways of cooking and keeping the tents they’ve used, as well as herbalism, but that’s more towards the medicine man/shamanic routes. Some dressed with more feminine clothing, and took their practices towards different ways also.
    This is important, because if we don’t look at the people before us, and the ones that currently exist within their own traditions, then why aren’t we observing them more often? We adopted our Confederacy Papers off of tribes from the NE, and eventually, our own democratic system. What else could we learn?
    Small tangent at the end of this, but still, I hoped this was helpful. Stay safe all!

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 5 лет назад

      I'm glad you shared this comment. I don't much about Navajo culture, so it was interesting to read.

  • @Phoenix_7568
    @Phoenix_7568 5 лет назад +5

    I came here from Vlogbrothers….Mrs. Green, you're awesome! Thanks for doing what you do :)

  • @saint_silver
    @saint_silver 5 лет назад +1

    I love how looking and thinking about those pieces helps me "cleaning away" the tensions that our time forces upon us. Putting things into perspective, opening ourselves to other cultures is always so appeasing.
    Great video as always guys !

  • @ljmastertroll
    @ljmastertroll 5 лет назад +12

    Excellent first look into this subject. I do hope it becomes a series or maybe a topic frequently visited.

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks. I'm now mulling one about masculinity in art, but fearful of the trolls!

    • @ljmastertroll
      @ljmastertroll 5 лет назад

      @@theartassignment Trolls be damned - we need this video!

    • @oof-wi7hp
      @oof-wi7hp 4 года назад

      @@theartassignment oh please oh please do this!!!!!!

  • @lunarharp
    @lunarharp 5 лет назад +13

    It's so uplifting to learn more about history of diverse identities and topics

    • @alejandromolinac
      @alejandromolinac 4 года назад

      You never had a library?

    • @fabuloushatlady7812
      @fabuloushatlady7812 4 года назад

      alejandromolinac, have you ever been to a library? I’m guessing they didn’t search for this video, probably popped up in their recommended. So they watched it. At library’s normally you go knowing what you want, or the general idea of what you want. If you have no idea of a topic before going to the library, or no interest in it. You probably are not going to get a book on it. So when they saw it in their remcomeded they thought it sounded interesting and wanted to watch it. Now if they want to learn more on this topic, they’ll go to a library.
      Maybe you should learn what a library is before being annoying to people who just enjoyed a video YOU watched.

  • @meghancosgrove7637
    @meghancosgrove7637 5 лет назад +22

    It would be so interesting to here about the female gaze/ point of view- women looking at the world or people around them. How is that different from a male point of view. I love the channel, keep up the amazing content!

    • @kts8900
      @kts8900 5 лет назад +5

      Check out "Nanette" the netflix comedy special by Hannah Gadsby. She does a whole thing on artists(has an art degree) including her dislike of the chauvanistic picasso. How he broke art by imagining a world in which we could see all perspectives at once...but none of them were female...

    • @vornamenachname3441
      @vornamenachname3441 4 года назад +2

      strontiumXnitrate the male gaze - endlessly horny, narcissistic, looking at the world with a misplaced sense of entitlement and a male ego the size of the known universe, and instead of coming to terms with their own disfunctionalities, projects them all onto the female half of the population. Then accuses all women of doing the same exact things.

    • @vornamenachname3441
      @vornamenachname3441 3 года назад

      @Kayden McCallum sry but what exactly do you mean?

  • @_rsmdk
    @_rsmdk 5 лет назад

    Art Assignment is absolutely one of my favourite channels and I feel like it’s the only I’ve seen so far where I can genuinely learn, and art isn’t discussed in a convoluted manner. You guys are always well researched and give more than one argument to a case. Keep doing what you’re doing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @bazpugmire635
    @bazpugmire635 4 года назад +5

    I want a part two of this video!! The two lesbians that did the paper on gender non conformity/ what now a days would likely be categorized as a nonbinary identity gave me CHILLS.

  • @lorenabpv
    @lorenabpv 5 лет назад +13

    You're cool, Sarah/other people who make this channel happen. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series :)

  • @Archie0pteryx
    @Archie0pteryx 5 лет назад +7

    This is really interesting, thanks. When I took fine arts in the '90's, gender wasn't a thing that was discussed much, except in the context of feminist art like Miriam Shapiro and Georgia O'Keefe.
    Some of the work I do is scientific illustration commissions and I learned that if I disguise my gender and let them assume I'm male (I'm not), that I will be second guessed to my accuracy and knowledge and paid more in commissions, almost as if gender itself lends credibility. Of course that's nonsense, but it is the reality.

    • @unoaotroa
      @unoaotroa 4 года назад

      Tesseracttoo will or will not?

    • @Archie0pteryx
      @Archie0pteryx 4 года назад

      @@unoaotroa What are you asking?

  • @Artbunny101
    @Artbunny101 5 лет назад +3

    Oh my gosh! I wished I had this video a week ago!! This video details sooo many works from AP Art History, amazing job!

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад

      This series was designed for people just like you a week ago! Sorry our timing was off, but future AP test takers will hopefully find this useful. I bet you did well regardless ;).

  • @HugoLimarque
    @HugoLimarque 5 лет назад +1

    Please, insert captions in the videos other than automatic ones. It gives an option to people who want to see it subtitled (like me) and presents better certain names, like the african ones. Thanks a lot, your content is amazing!

  • @MsKaddelz
    @MsKaddelz 5 лет назад +41

    i study art and often focus on being transmasculine in my works ! (:

    • @JP-dh1xv
      @JP-dh1xv 5 лет назад +1

      Ooh what materials do you work in?

    • @AS-jj3ho
      @AS-jj3ho 5 лет назад +1

      Is there anywhere online we can view your work? :)

  • @allielown1542
    @allielown1542 5 лет назад +9

    I really appreciate the efforts to bring a more globally-minded conversation of art history. A lot of art education centers around European involvement in art movements, and art from other corners of the world (if taught at all) gets lost in time.
    I was wondering though, if both Claude Cahun and Marcel Moore identify as a gender other than male or female (and both changed their names to gender neutral names), shouldn't we use the pronouns they/them to describe the duo? I've seen lots of larger institutions use she/her and still refer to them by their former female names. Although they may not have outwardly identified as the word trans, can we as art folk of the present borrow this more modern approach of mindful pronouns? Just a thought! Thanks for the amazing video as always!

  • @William1942-t2w
    @William1942-t2w 5 лет назад +1

    Wonderful presentation, excellent information and insight, and beautiful pronunciation. Thank you. This gave me new understandings.

  • @nicolaspaulmoreale9728
    @nicolaspaulmoreale9728 5 лет назад +4

    If you could make a video about Bauhaus I'd be so happy to watch it :)

  • @bowtiesandcigarettes
    @bowtiesandcigarettes 5 лет назад +33

    i’m naturally drawn to art history, so these subjects are usually pretty easy for me to understand, but your videos make it so much more accessible to the general public, and that’s honestly amazing

    • @theartassignment
      @theartassignment  5 лет назад +2

      I hope you're right and thank you! If you ever see/hear me using alienating art speak, don't be afraid to call me out ;).

  • @FoiledFeline
    @FoiledFeline 5 лет назад +2

    I would love more videos going through various expressions of and reactions to gender in art throughout the world and throughout history. This video made me hungry for more oh my god I love it. I especially love that this video gave the context of how this art was a depiction of the artists’ and their society’s relationship to gender.

  • @imnotgabriel
    @imnotgabriel 5 лет назад +2

    beautifully made. really appreciate your videos as an educator and as a grad student. they are really helpful. thank you.

  • @abigailginzburg
    @abigailginzburg 5 лет назад +1

    Another thing that my art history teacher pointed out to me about the "Venus" paintings is that they always had a dog in them. She called the dog "Fido" because that means loyalty, which is what the dogs were supposed to represent. So, not only is the first Venus taken because servants are getting her things out of a wedding chest, but dear Fido reassures the viewer that this is all within the commitment of marriage, so it is okay. Fido shows up in a few other iterations of this theme.
    By contrast, the Manet has a cat in it. No loyalty here, only the inconsistent affections of a cat, and a black cat at that. There has got to be something here connected to the thread of witches and black cats, but I do not know. One last detail is that Manet is also calling out society's racism because as low on the hierarchy as a sex worker is, even she is above her black servant.

  • @rhymingvine9516
    @rhymingvine9516 5 лет назад +2

    I love this video because it shines a light on something we usually argue or ignore. Gender is only a touchy subject to those who don’t understand it. I view myself as non-binary and Im exploring ways on how to include gender in my art, after seeing this, gender needs to be shown in a modern way so that it’ll make it into art history, it’s never to late.

  • @earthdragon7823
    @earthdragon7823 5 лет назад +3

    Robert Mapplethorpe along with Claude Cahun are big influences for me

  • @moistydoooood
    @moistydoooood 4 года назад +7

    holy wow this is the first youtube comment section with top comments supporting trans rights. is.. is this a dream??? 🏳️‍🌈

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 4 года назад

      Nowhere in this is "trans rights" supported. What is presented here is that human identity complexity is both very old, and consistent. It's not advocacy, it's reality in art.

    • @littlekreeper8918
      @littlekreeper8918 4 года назад +1

      @@johnsmith1474 So in other words, art history said trans rights

  • @rabahelaawar2499
    @rabahelaawar2499 5 лет назад +1

    I think that the works of Robert Mapplethorpe and Nan Goldin prove an interesting gender 'shuffle' as Claude Cahun stated, and they reveal an aesthetic into how the anatomy whether it is masculine or feminine is challenged in its generally-accepted role by society, albeit they did photograph their subjects too while adhering to the gender norms at times. Another artist to highlight would be Wolfgang Tillmans in how he equates gender roles in his dual portraits of both male and female subjects, reflecting a slowly emerging genderless revolution towards the end of the 20th century that has become evidently more outspoken in our current one. These works will be a staple of how we view gender in our contemporary age, and will speak volumes about our gender lifestyles to the future generations.

  • @KannikCat
    @KannikCat 5 лет назад

    Ah, so good! I'm fascinated by the degree to which we gender things and ourselves -- aptitudes, ways of being, behaviour, dress, roles -- and seeing it explored through time and cultures via art is brilliant. Yet another way art is a great vehicle for so many things! I've personally not (yet!) used art as a lens for issues of gender, but that's going to change now, thank you for pointing me toward a new way to engage, doubly so for the foray into Maya artwork! I've long been interested in them and even did a thesis on their architecture and art; makes me want to dive back in and see what's newly emerged in the field. :)

  • @mouthofgabriel
    @mouthofgabriel 5 лет назад

    just took the ap art history test last week!! so cool to see some of the artworks in this video

  • @fraga2328
    @fraga2328 5 лет назад

    Once again showing many cultures and times in the same respectful light!!! Love this series!!!

  • @mayaconnor4206
    @mayaconnor4206 4 года назад +2

    Genuinely suprised people are saying that art assignment doesn't support transgender rights. Their entry point into the video brings up the distinction between sex and gender.

  • @JoshuaChowabc
    @JoshuaChowabc 5 лет назад +4

    Sarah, thank you for sharing your love of art

  • @dotdot97
    @dotdot97 5 лет назад

    it's so important when looking at gender to look at the related facets such as identity and portraiture, as like many things in life, they are not isolated realms of study. One artists who i think explores these quite well is Cindy Sherman. Her works do show many similarities with Claude Cahun, and it is interesting to see how time has changed these ideas of investigation.

  • @annamccue4728
    @annamccue4728 5 лет назад +1

    Definitely thought you might mention Gerda Wegener's paintings of her partner Lili Elbe. The move "The Danish Girl" is interesting but doesn't capture all the intricacies of Lili and Gerda's life. Gerda was a famous erotica painter, often painting women having sex together, and she asked her husband to model for one of her paintings. Lili became the dual persona of Einar Wegener, and it started through Gerda's art. "Mosaiques" by Helene Allatini is a memoir about her own experience as friend of Gerda and Lili. I highly recommend it!

  • @NataliePate
    @NataliePate 5 лет назад +2

    I am really enjoying Blinkpopshift's current journey on RUclips.

  • @JoeyTrejo10
    @JoeyTrejo10 3 года назад

    Just a random observation - The map with Guatemala has the incorrect spelling of Guatemala City, the capital.

  • @johncook6731
    @johncook6731 3 года назад +1

    Wtf is this comments section. To me, the art assignment simply talks about gender in art and the different perspectives in it. I don’t see it taking a side or a political stance. Rather it observed the fact that gender is a popularly discussed/questioned topic in art.

  • @wamyc
    @wamyc 4 года назад +1

    Thumbs up for using CE and BCE!

  • @AS-jj3ho
    @AS-jj3ho 5 лет назад +1

    HERE for this series! Thank You :)

  • @strawbself
    @strawbself 5 лет назад +14

    nonbinary human here: i loved this video!!!!

    • @flask223
      @flask223 4 года назад +2

      strontiumXnitrate ?

    • @fabuloushatlady7812
      @fabuloushatlady7812 4 года назад

      “Human” sounds like something a non human would say. Are you an alien in disguise! Or maybe a robot!

  • @billclinton6040
    @billclinton6040 4 года назад +1

    I find the conclusions posited about ancient cultures' attitudes toward gender based on their art (e.g. Mayan sculptures) somewhat specious. The first example of Hermaphroditus sculptures in ancient Rome could easily suggest that Romans had very accepting attitudes towards hermaphrodites, barring the existence of other contemporaneous evidence to the contrary.

  • @timothyb3893
    @timothyb3893 5 лет назад +6

    gender and art? what better example is there than contrapoints

  • @PogieJoe
    @PogieJoe 5 лет назад

    Wow! Claude Cahun's work is incredible! Thank you for introducing me to their work. :)

  • @Toastwig
    @Toastwig 5 лет назад +1

    Mary Cassatt is one of my favourite painters :)

  • @alphaemarfa4941
    @alphaemarfa4941 5 лет назад

    Love this topic and thank you Art Assignment for diving right into it. May i know what was the first video? Thanks ♡

  • @intrusiveshadows724
    @intrusiveshadows724 5 лет назад +8

    For me as a gender bon binary person this art is first and foremost validation. We are not new. We are as old as humanity.

  • @tkopey
    @tkopey 4 года назад +1

    this is the only channel I can binge watch guilt free

  • @andromedaputraharyanto5420
    @andromedaputraharyanto5420 5 лет назад +2

    Futanari is already known by the Greeks and Romans?

  • @rabahelaawar2499
    @rabahelaawar2499 5 лет назад +1

    Many, many thanks for this lovely and enlightening video. I found it very educational and on point! 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @jimmyjimmy5574
    @jimmyjimmy5574 5 лет назад

    Great video. But the audio is the background is annoying. It's too loud.

  • @nerdporkspass1m1st78
    @nerdporkspass1m1st78 4 года назад +1

    “Ideals proposed by men, but requiring the acceptance of the community’s women.”
    Yo, just imagine a man wearing a mblo starts to breakdance and all the women laugh... imagine what kind of future would continue from that! Imagine the women embrace breakdancing as being feminine, and every male dancer has to embrace it too, learning how to breakdance and performing it at the African dances to everyone’s amusement. That would be amazing, I think.

  • @jupiterinaries6150
    @jupiterinaries6150 5 лет назад +1

    This was wonderful and important to chellenge notions of gender binaries. It opens up a vein of creativity and self-expression. In particular I like how you referenced the feminine aspects of bodhisattvas.

  • @lunevermeil1400
    @lunevermeil1400 4 года назад +2

    No idea why, but my subconscious knew the first statue would be a subversion of typical gender standards with a beautiful hermaphroditic sculpture.
    I saw the statue and knew what it was, though I never set eyes upon this before.

  • @rayhinojosa69
    @rayhinojosa69 3 года назад

    It is absolutely beautiful how the human condition is laid bare when you jump from european art, african art, to ancient mexican, and even asian art. How so similar we are to eachother yet with all unique perspectives on the same subject. Art history is truly a window not only to history, but tells the story of humanity that no other medium can

  • @Moscato_Moscato
    @Moscato_Moscato 5 лет назад +3

    Please do more vids on gender!! This was so great!!

  • @LifeLostSoul
    @LifeLostSoul 5 лет назад

    When I was a student at SAIC I saw Claude Cahun's photos on display and I contacted with them so greatly. When I saw them I didn't know words like gender queer, non-binary or Agender but seeing them helped me discover that about myself.

  • @ardakarabocek4484
    @ardakarabocek4484 5 лет назад

    Now researching Gillian Wearing and Cahun relation. Next I will try connect to these pieces with Marisol Escobars' works (specially 'the party').

  • @armalvior
    @armalvior 5 лет назад +1

    Art is a sanctuary where we can be anyone we like regardless of gender...

  • @sandraturk241
    @sandraturk241 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this. I come from a very traditional family that believes men and women have strictly defined gender roles because "that's how nature works. It's been that way for hundreds of years, you can't fight nature" etc. This video offers evidence of what I believed but couldn't prove: nature has never been black and white and strictly defined gender roles have not existed in this form since the dawn of humanity at all. Thank you. :)

  • @jessiepottsschwark2766
    @jessiepottsschwark2766 5 лет назад +1

    It's amazing how all of this is not something new. Loved to know that in the past there is a lot of fusion between men and women! I think that also in the hindu culture with all of the different gods and goddesses, men and women are a representation of great power, in different ways, but equally important.

  • @liqsor
    @liqsor 4 года назад +2

    So you can determine that the handprints in the cave were female based on the size of the hands.
    I’m just curious. How do you know that the person was female? Should biology such as hand size determine sex or gender?

    • @Antipius
      @Antipius 4 года назад +1

      Sex is a biological spectrum where most people are male or female, but where hormones and body parts deviate from the binary.
      Gender is a social construct that helps us live with the complexity of biological sex.
      Certain hand sizes are common in biologically feminine people, so one can, even with wide margin of error, figure out what kind of people what hands belonged to!

    • @deedevon7468
      @deedevon7468 4 года назад +1

      @@Antipius That definition of gender is about five minutes old and false. Men have certain biological differences than women. There are no complexities.

    • @Antipius
      @Antipius 4 года назад

      @@deedevon7468 define man and woman. Then find a way to fit intersex people into that binary. Nature is simply more tricky than our often Victorian understanding of it!
      It being a "new" definition also isn't an argument. Definitions change all the time and what matters is accuracy. For gender (not sex) the most consistent and useful definition right now seems to be one of self identity. There's no ambiguity or room for error there! If you think you're a woman, then you are. Awesome and facilitates a lot of people's happiness. :)
      Cheers!

  • @gayejurisich3054
    @gayejurisich3054 4 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this video as I do with all your work 😊

  • @EnigmaticPsyche
    @EnigmaticPsyche 5 лет назад

    THANK YOU for naming Laure! Conversations about Olympia has erased her presence for so many years.

  • @arturonegretearte
    @arturonegretearte 5 лет назад

    Also in southern Mexico there’s a place where there was no king, there the Red Queen ruled all her life. Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico

  • @markdodd1152
    @markdodd1152 5 лет назад

    It makes me so happy to see all the comments from open-minded people. I expected to find negative comments and I'm very happy to see they're not here. Great job on the video and drawing the best viewers

  • @1343-w1m
    @1343-w1m Год назад

    I have a question for Latino people. Isn't the word 'Latino' gender-neutral already? The term 'Latinx' was used in this video to avoid gender binaries but I have seen many say that it is an incorrect usage. Please educate me on this.

  • @ahmadwattoo4892
    @ahmadwattoo4892 5 лет назад

    never knew about that greek reclining nude sculpture. Oddly ingenious and profound in it's own tongue in cheek way

  • @thaovi11
    @thaovi11 4 года назад

    Would love more of this! So eye opening/inspiring

  • @alejandrogangotena9033
    @alejandrogangotena9033 5 лет назад +2

    4:18 the torso is not impossibly long, I just saw the proportions, it´s somewhat standard proportions, I ve seen many women in real life with similar proportions. By the same token, the feet are not impossibly small. They seem about standard. (that means, about the length of her face)

  • @yitang9486
    @yitang9486 5 лет назад

    When you are beginning to read your art history readings and then the art assignment uploads... 🤓