After a year on this instrument, I have finally gotten a Sageworks and love it. If it is in your budget, go for it and don't look back. I've tried a stool, a cushion, and two varieties of ErgoPlay -- the Sageworks beats them all, hands down. ErgoPlay had some build quality issues and is not as adjustable. This thing? Golden. If you get one, be sure to get extra command strips. I had to install mine twice as I needed to move it by about an inch, I found, after a few days of playing on my initial install.
Thank you Allen. I've just ordered one. I agree with you fully about suction cups. I've had a Ergoplay and it's been OK. Certainly better than a footstool but it is far from 100% secure. It tends to come off during practice and while in lessons. Another less obvious issues with suction cups is if you happen to buy a matte sided guitar, such as some of the Hanika Natural offerings then suction cups will absolutely not work and you need to install some workaround. And finally the argument about not sticking to shorts or skin is as you put it "Come on". No guitar support is designed to work with skin or shorts or pajama pants or any fine material. That's something any classical guitarist should inherently just know from experience. Also pretty cool that it fits into a case, up until now I've had to carry a separate bag for my Ergoplay.
Hi Allen. After playing elec. guitar for 40 yrs., I wasn't used to having a cumbersome footrest under my feet. So you can imagine how many times I stood up and nearly killed myself tripping over it. Ahhhhhhh......, the work hazards. The leg rest is the way to go. Thanks for all again.
Do you think the magnets could negatively affect a pickup inside the guitar if you had a Classical with a pickup or an acoustic-electric with a pickup? Thanks!!
do you think it would work well if the magnet was on top of the side "walls" of the inside of the guitar? im asking this because my guitar is reasonably more thinner than the one shown in the video and that seems a really nice support!
Hi there. It's Zak from the CGS Support Team. You should contact Sagework directly and ask them. I have heard someone mentioning using a hair dryer to remove the magnet but I wouldn't recommend it in the case that the direct heat has a negative effect on the wood.
Allen, thanks for a really useful video and thorough demo of this magnetic support. I'm in 100% agreement on the failure of suction cups. Perhaps they really do destroy a French polished shellac finish, but more to the point they just don't seem to hold very long when practicing. When they fail, its catastrophic. I haven't used a footstool in a long time, have used Dynarette cushion, Neckup, and Gitano, but they have limitations. Perhaps this product may help me overcome some frustrations and playing difficulties.
I'm a long time guitar player and I've always used footstools or phone books. I recently installed one of these supports and I'm never going back to a footstool. I actually love the feeling of having both of my feet firmly on the ground and also I find that the support essentially becomes part of the guitar. That's awesome in my books!
Thanks Joshua for your comments, and again Allen for the spot on review. I just installed the support, and right out of the gate I have to say this device is rock solid. It instills a feeling of secure positioning, like I've only had with a footstool in the past. I got the black nylon version which is definitely affordable. I would say the installation is a little tricky, and the instructions are very clear and should be followed closely. Just an FYI I got the regular size support and for me it provides plenty of neck height at the lowest setting for each support leg (this is on a Torres sized plantilla and my height 5'8"). There is also a short version of the support available in either style which might provide a bit more adjustability if you're shorter of stature and have a similar sized instrument.
Hey Allan, great video as usual. Do you have a video on letting work you've memorized sink into the brain? Or maybe a video on breaks? Every day for the past 3 weeks I've been learning, practicing, and memorizing the same piece. I feel worn out and some parts in said piece, that I would normally play with ease, I find myself struggling with. Please give me your thoughts.
Hi Allen, I like your channel very much. Thanks. Please note that the Sagework support may not be suitable for people, like me, who have pacemakers or ICD’s (implantable cardioverter defibrillators). The magnets could interfere or damage these cardiac devices (for your reference, each year over 100000 people are fitted with ICD’s in the USA).
Hey, Zak here. It will work on your right leg too. You'll need to adjust it regardless of what leg you use. Perhaps using suction cups and a strap may be better for you, if that's what you're looking for.
hello sir, thank you for responding! I will try this as it does seem like a well worth investment over suction cups. I just prefer not using the strap when I play sitting down and who knows, maybe I will try playing on my left leg with my steel string guitar! once again, thank you for responding!
Hey! For more information on the Sagework Guitar Support, click the link below:
www.classicalguitarshed.com/sagework-guitar-support-review/
After a year on this instrument, I have finally gotten a Sageworks and love it. If it is in your budget, go for it and don't look back. I've tried a stool, a cushion, and two varieties of ErgoPlay -- the Sageworks beats them all, hands down.
ErgoPlay had some build quality issues and is not as adjustable. This thing? Golden.
If you get one, be sure to get extra command strips. I had to install mine twice as I needed to move it by about an inch, I found, after a few days of playing on my initial install.
I've been using Barnett supports for three years. Best support system I've ever used and I've used them all!
Thank you Allen. I've just ordered one.
I agree with you fully about suction cups. I've had a Ergoplay and it's been OK. Certainly better than a footstool but it is far from 100% secure. It tends to come off during practice and while in lessons.
Another less obvious issues with suction cups is if you happen to buy a matte sided guitar, such as some of the Hanika Natural offerings then suction cups will absolutely not work and you need to install some workaround.
And finally the argument about not sticking to shorts or skin is as you put it "Come on". No guitar support is designed to work with skin or shorts or pajama pants or any fine material. That's something any classical guitarist should inherently just know from experience.
Also pretty cool that it fits into a case, up until now I've had to carry a separate bag for my Ergoplay.
Hi Allen. After playing elec. guitar for 40 yrs., I wasn't used to having a cumbersome footrest under my feet. So you can imagine how many times I stood up and nearly killed myself tripping over it.
Ahhhhhhh......, the work hazards. The leg rest is the way to go. Thanks for all again.
Great video! thank you for creating it. The sageworks comes in 3 sizes, which one worked best for you?
Do you think the magnets could negatively affect a pickup inside the guitar if you had a Classical with a pickup or an acoustic-electric with a pickup? Thanks!!
I have no idea why they didn't put cork on the leg facing part of the brace... that would have way more grip I expect than the crappy thin bit of foam
do you think it would work well if the magnet was on top of the side "walls" of the inside of the guitar?
im asking this because my guitar is reasonably more thinner than the one shown in the video and that seems a really nice support!
Can you remove the inside magnets and use them on another guitar?
Thanks for yout review. Do you know if the magnets can be removed in case you decide to get a new guitar and keep the Sagework?
Hi there. It's Zak from the CGS Support Team.
You should contact Sagework directly and ask them. I have heard someone mentioning using a hair dryer to remove the magnet but I wouldn't recommend it in the case that the direct heat has a negative effect on the wood.
Allen, thanks for a really useful video and thorough demo of this magnetic support. I'm in 100% agreement on the failure of suction cups. Perhaps they really do destroy a French polished shellac finish, but more to the point they just don't seem to hold very long when practicing. When they fail, its catastrophic. I haven't used a footstool in a long time, have used Dynarette cushion, Neckup, and Gitano, but they have limitations. Perhaps this product may help me overcome some frustrations and playing difficulties.
I'm a long time guitar player and I've always used footstools or phone books. I recently installed one of these supports and I'm never going back to a footstool. I actually love the feeling of having both of my feet firmly on the ground and also I find that the support essentially becomes part of the guitar. That's awesome in my books!
Thanks Joshua for your comments, and again Allen for the spot on review. I just installed the support, and right out of the gate I have to say this device is rock solid. It instills a feeling of secure positioning, like I've only had with a footstool in the past. I got the black nylon version which is definitely affordable. I would say the installation is a little tricky, and the instructions are very clear and should be followed closely. Just an FYI I got the regular size support and for me it provides plenty of neck height at the lowest setting for each support leg (this is on a Torres sized plantilla and my height 5'8"). There is also a short version of the support available in either style which might provide a bit more adjustability if you're shorter of stature and have a similar sized instrument.
Hey Allan, great video as usual. Do you have a video on letting work you've memorized sink into the brain? Or maybe a video on breaks? Every day for the past 3 weeks I've been learning, practicing, and memorizing the same piece. I feel worn out and some parts in said piece, that I would normally play with ease, I find myself struggling with. Please give me your thoughts.
What size did you use? Just looking to buy one
Hi, It's Zak. Just the regular size.
Great review thanks man
Hi Allen,
I like your channel very much. Thanks.
Please note that the Sagework support may not be suitable for people, like me, who have pacemakers or ICD’s (implantable cardioverter defibrillators). The magnets could interfere or damage these cardiac devices (for your reference, each year over 100000 people are fitted with ICD’s in the USA).
Hi, it's Zak from the CGS team
Thanks for the info
how well does it work on the right leg? I just need it to raise my guitar just how like a strap would do. (I don't rest my guitar on the left leg)
Hey, Zak here.
It will work on your right leg too. You'll need to adjust it regardless of what leg you use. Perhaps using suction cups and a strap may be better for you, if that's what you're looking for.
hello sir, thank you for responding! I will try this as it does seem like a well worth investment over suction cups. I just prefer not using the strap when I play sitting down and who knows, maybe I will try playing on my left leg with my steel string guitar!
once again, thank you for responding!
Love mine!
Why do you have 3 reviews of the same product without adding nothing?
$106 are they crazy!!!?
They sell one for $70 as well